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Secret Squirrel
08-01-2004, 11:17 PM
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Sudan is calling a U.N. Security Countil vote on the Darfur crisis "illogical," after being given 30 days to disarm Arab militias or face economic and diplomatic penalities.

Foreign Minister Mustafa Osman Ismail has said the government condemns the time period in particular, saying it would be difficult to implement changes in a month.

He says Khartoum will stick to a 90-day plan it had already devised with the United Nations.

That July 3 agreement included disarming the Janjaweed and accepting humanitarian aid.

The U.N. Security Council voted for a resolution implicitly threatening to impose sanctions if the government of Sudan does not stop atrocities in Darfur within one month.

Pro-government Arab militias, known as the Janjaweed, have brutally attacked black African farmers in Darfur, a region of western Sudan about the size of France.

Meanwhile, France has flown a planeload of U.N. aid into eastern Chad where French soldiers are preparing to deploy to the border with Sudan's Darfur region.

About 200 troops already stationed in neighboring Chad will be sent to the border to help the relief effort in Darfur.

The conflict in Darfur began last year when black Sudanese rebels attacked government property, accusing the government of neglecting Darfur in favor of the Arab population in Sudan.

The government responded by setting up the Janjaweed to put down the rebellion.

Human rights groups estimate 15,000 to 30,000 civilians have been killed and more than 1.2 million people have been left homeless.

'Last thing we wanted to do'
Thirteen members of the Council voted for the resolution, with China and Pakistan abstaining.

"This is the last thing we wanted to do," U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Danforth said, "but the government has left us with no choice."

"It's time to start the clock ticking on the government of Sudan."

Elfatih Mohammed Ahmed Erwa, Sudan's ambassador to the United Nations, criticized the resolution for failing to recognize "improvements on the ground" and for pre-judging efforts by Sudan and the African Union to resolve the conflict peacefully.

"The intention is there, the will is there, it's the pre-judging I'm worried about," Erwa told CNN.


John Danforth, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said the word "sanctions" was objectionable to some U.N. Security Council members.
A senior State Department official said the United States has been urging the African Union to prepare a protection force to be ready to move into Sudan if no progress is seen in the 30 days.

The official said the African Union is meeting now on the issue.

The vote came after United States on Thursday dropped the word "sanctions" from its draft resolution on Sudan, but maintained sanctions are still possible if Khartoun does not comply with commitments it made earlier in the year to control the crisis in the Darfur region.

One of the principal humanitarian groups in Sudan was disappointed by the resolution.

"The only thing the U.N. Security Council has delivered is yet another month-long delay," said the agency, which asked to remain unnamed.

"This watered-down resolution contains no urgency and offers precious little help to the people of Darfur."

Danforth defended the revised resolution, saying, "it takes no teeth out of it."

The senior State Department official said the United States believes Khartoum can still control at least 80 percent of the Janjaweed, and estimated there were between 6,000 and 12,000 members of those militias in Sudan.

The official said it was the Sudanese government that let the "genie out of the bottle" by arming the Janjaweed.

Danforth told the Security Council between 240 and 440 people are dying in Darfur every day, adding that Sudanese officials "created this monster" and "it's their responsibility to control it."

The United Nations has described the Darfur conflict as the world's worst humanitarian crisis.

In 30 days, the council will meet again to discuss if further action against the government is needed.

2RHPZ
08-02-2004, 10:52 AM
Sudan army's anger over UN 'war'

Sudan's army says the UN resolution on the conflict in Darfur is "a declaration of war" and threatens to fight any foreign intervention.

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The resolution gives the government 30 days to disarm the Janjaweed militias, which are accused of widespread atrocities against non-Arab groups.

Sudan's cabinet has also criticised the resolution. It has promised to disarm the Arab militias - but within 90 days.

More than one million people have fled their homes in 18 months of conflict.

The United Nations World Food Programme has stepped up its relief effort in Darfur with its first airdrops of food intended to help families cut off from deliveries by road because of heavy rain.

The growing international concern about the situation in western Sudan has led to calls for a limited form of military intervention.

'Jihad'

"The Security Council resolution about the Darfur issue is a declaration of war on the Sudan and its people," armed forces spokesman General Mohamed Beshir Suleiman told the official Al Anbaa daily newspaper.

"The Sudanese army is now prepared to confront the enemies of the Sudan on land, sea and air," he said.

"The door of the jihad is still open and if it has been closed in the south it will be opened in Darfur," he said, referring to a peace deal to end 20 years of war in southern Sudan.

Nigeria's President Olusegun Obasanjo visited the Sudan capital, Khartoum and Libya over the weekend seeking an "African solution" to the crisis.

As chairman of the African Union, he is pressing for African troops to be sent to Darfur to disarm the Janjaweed, and the two rebels groups, accused by Sudan of starting the conflict by taking up arms last year.

Nigeria, South Africa and Rwanda had promised to send 300 soldiers to Darfur by the end of July but these have not yet arrived.

French troops

France is deploying 200 soldiers to secure Chad's eastern border with the Darfur region and deliver humanitarian aid to the 200,000 Sudanese refugees in Chad.

France has about 1,000 troops in Chad, who until now have been helping to promote stability and train Chadian forces for peacekeeping duties.

p to 50,000 people have died since the conflict began in early 2003.

Refugees say the Janjaweed follow up government air-raids by riding into their villages, slaughtering the men, raping the women and looting.

The US-drafted resolution demands that Sudan make good on promises it made on 3 July to rein in the fighters.

It calls for UN Secretary General Kofi Annan to issue a report in 30 days on the progress made.

But Sudan said that this promise it made to Mr Annan gave it 90 days to stop the violence.

A cabinet statement also criticised the resolution for not blaming the rebels, who "took up arms and therefore... bear the responsibility for all the human and security tragedy in Darfur".

The resolution was only adopted after the US dropped the word "sanctions" and added economic and diplomatic "measures".

Marsuitor
08-02-2004, 11:58 AM
And the world condemns Sudan's total unwillingness/inability to get Darfour straightened out...

Midav
08-02-2004, 01:43 PM
:cantbeli:

Vance
08-02-2004, 01:48 PM
Is condemning the cool thing to do nowadays?

vampireuk
08-02-2004, 01:52 PM
Prepare the anti-camel weaponry. What? Somebody had to say it :bash:

Midav
08-02-2004, 01:54 PM
Is condemning the cool thing to do nowadays?

That or declaring jihad....

2RHPZ
08-02-2004, 04:30 PM
US forces hunt down al-Qa'eda in Sudan

By Damien McElroy, Foreign Correspondent
(Filed: 01/08/2004)

American special forces teams have been sent to Sudan to hunt down Saudi Arabian terrorists who have re-established secret al-Qa'eda training camps in remote mountain ranges in the north-eastern quarter of the country.

The terrorists, who are thought to take orders from Saudi Arabia's most wanted man, Saleh Awfi, have taken refuge in at least three locations in the Jebel Kurush mountains, which run parallel to the Red Sea coast of Africa's biggest country.

An American Delta Force officer, who recently spent a week in Sudan tracking the terrorists, said the camps are used to train new recruits to wage jihad, or holy war, against the West and its allies. The trainees are instructed how to handle weapons and build and transport bombs.

The officer said it was proving difficult to pin the terrorists down. 'We have a read on the rat-lines and the wider camp areas, but these are shifting camps in a very spread out part of the country. Our job is to tie them down tighter and tighter. They are moving pretty easily from their base points to the Red Sea coast, and then back and forth to Saudi. The Saudis are pretty annoyed about it.'

Awfi, according to the Saudi Arabian government, is a former prison officer and a veteran of al-Qa'eda training camps in Sudan in the early 1990s. He is believed to have moved on to Afghanistan before turning up in Iraq before the war last year. Now back in his homeland, he emerged as the local al-Qa'eda leader earlier this summer. Riyadh has launched a nationwide crackdown on terrorist cells after an amnesty expired last month but Awfi has evaded capture, even though he is believed to live in a safe house in the Riyadh area.

Western diplomats in Saudi Arabia said that the new Sudanese camps, which were established in the last nine months, have become a vital staging ground for al-Qa'eda. 'There is significant traffic from these camps to the peninsula across the Red Sea,' one said. 'There is no real Sudanese government or army control over the mountains. The terrorists slip through the cracks, up into the hills where they can train, rest and build up the spirit of jihad. With things getting hot over here, they can get organised over there.'

Al-Qa'eda had its headquarters in Sudan between 1992 and 1996 until Khartoum's Islamic regime succumbed to western pressure to expel the group and Osama bin Laden fled to Afghanistan. Two years later President Clinton ordered cruise missile attacks on al-Qa'eda camps in Sudan and Afghanistan.

Sudan has resisted western and Saudi Arabian pressure for it to deploy an army battalion in the Jebel Kurush, to flush out the al-Qa'eda presence. It has, however, allowed small teams of American soldiers to pass into the country as part of official visits, such as last month's trip by Colin Powell. A team of five special forces soldiers broke off from the Powell entourage for a week-long mission in the Kurush mountains, where aerial surveillance had established a list of villages where suspicious activity had been detected.

American forces are hunting a series of groups linked to al-Qa'eda across North Africa. Special anti-terrorist operations in Sudan and the Horn of Africa are undertaken by marines based in Camp Lemonier in Djibouti.

5jumpchump
08-02-2004, 04:49 PM
The UN is worthless . Let private Armies take over for less than half the cost and less then half the time it would take to restore order . F the UN :bash:

Kampfbaer
08-02-2004, 05:29 PM
There's a fu***ng genocide going on in Sudan for years and sth. has to be done about it.

I hope that the Europeans and African Nations will have the balls to do sth.

America can't be everywhere!!!!

Btw. I hope that the seven US CVBGs will have the time to pay some respect for Sudan. p-)

No second Ruanda!!!!!!!!!

David Lehmann
08-02-2004, 06:12 PM
Concerning the Sudanese army, it has AFAIK about 90,000 men

Concerning the planes they may have this list in working state :

fighter bombers :
12x MiG-29A/UB 'Fulcrum' (origin Russia)
10x Xian F-7B Airguard (origin China)
10x Shenyang F-6/FT-6 (origin China)
16x Shenyang F-5/FT-5 (origin China)
6x MiG-23BN 'Flogger' (origin Russia)

transport :
2x Lockheed-Martin C-130H Hercules (origin USA)
2x De Havilland Canada DHC-5D Buffalo (origin Canada)
2x Antonow An-24 'Coke' (origin Russia)
2x Shaanxi Y-8D (origin China)
1x De Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter 300 (origin Canada)
1x Dassault Falcon 900 (VIP transport) (origin UAE)

helicopters :
4x Mil Mi-24 'Hind' (origin Russia)
8x Eurocopter Bo105CB (origin Germany)
10x ICA IAR-330L Puma (origin Romania)
6x Mil Mi-8 'Hip' (origin Russia)
9x Agusta-Bell AB-212 (origin Italia)

from http://www.fighter-jets.de/fighterjets/luftwaffen.php?land=sud&attr=sud&teil=s

Regards,

David