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Seraphim
08-07-2003, 01:11 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/tv_jessica_lynch

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Canadian actress Laura Regan, from Halifax, Canada, shown in an undated photo, will portray Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch, the 19-year-old U.S. Army supply clerk captured by Iraqi forces, in the NBC movie ``Saving Jessica Lynch.'' (AP Photo/The Halifax Daily News, HO)


BURBANK, Calif. - Actress Laura Regan will portray Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch in the NBC movie "Saving Jessica Lynch."


Regan, who starred in the 2002 horror movie "They," was cast in the lead role of the TV movie centering on the rescue of the 20-year-old Iraqi prisoner of war, network spokeswoman Cathryn Boxberger said Tuesday.


NBC Entertainment President Jeff Zucker said last month the film will be a compelling action-adventure told from the perspective of Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief, the Iraqi lawyer who alerted the U.S. military to Lynch's whereabouts.


The film, being made without Lynch's participation, will focus less on her and more on the experience of her Army unit and her rescuers, Zucker has said.


Lynch was captured March 23 after her 507th Maintenance Company convoy was ambushed in the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah. She was rescued from a hospital in the city on April 1 after al-Rehaief alerted U.S. forces.


She returned home last month to Palestine, W.Va., after a long hospitalization in Washington, D.C.


"Saving Jessica Lynch," with executive producer Dan Paulson, is scheduled to start production this month. It will be broadcast in November.

usa320
08-07-2003, 01:24 PM
I support her, i support the troops and the war, but i do NOT think that making a TV show about her ordeal is a good idea. Its capitalizing on her misfortunes. Just another addition to NBC's long line of crummy shows that are released to boost poor ratings, and then taken off the air a week later. Making a TV show about her ordeal is making money of it, and is downright disrespectful... Its as grimey as how disney wanted to do a film about 9-11. Its low and grimey. I hope they face hell and lose alot of money.

And they have a Canadian actress playing her besides... It will look accurate besides her saying "Iraqis at 10 oclock eh?" :roll:

budanski
08-07-2003, 01:34 PM
I support her, i support the troops and the war, but i do NOT think that making a TV show about her ordeal is a good idea. Its capitalizing on her misfortunes. Just another addition to NBC's long line of crummy shows that are released to boost poor ratings, and then taken off the air a week later. Making a TV show about her ordeal is making money of it, and is downright disrespectful... Its as grimey as how disney wanted to do a film about 9-11. Its low and grimey. I hope they face hell and lose alot of money.

And they have a Canadian actress playing her besides... It will look accurate besides her saying "Iraqis at 10 oclock eh?" :roll:

I dont care if they use a Canadian actress as long as she doesnt bust out some French-Canadian.. She kinda looks like private Lynch. As far as making money off her ordeal. I think Lynch will be making some good money from this. Didnt she sell her story? From what I've read, the story will be more focused on the Iraqi that showed where she was.

Vance
08-07-2003, 01:38 PM
WHAT THE ****?!?!? :fork: :fork:

Maverick77
08-07-2003, 01:57 PM
She aint gonna be french I live in Halifax and there are no French here.

This is one of the stupidest ****in things ever though.

Ratamacue
08-07-2003, 02:16 PM
Fvck this ****.

Kriz
08-07-2003, 02:31 PM
This is rather stupid indeed but hey the people in Hollywood need to earn money too :roll:

garyfanclub
08-07-2003, 10:48 PM
ROFL

Anti-War Hollywood liberals are now trying to cash in on the war. I love the hypocracy of it all.

Cpl.Roldan
08-08-2003, 03:27 AM
Wow.............Budanski your real smart now we all know why people diss Polish people here.

Juss a lil information 2 you, there's only one part of Canada that's french and Halifax aint it.........dumbass. Just to let you know too the British beat French ass here soo aint noway this country is french.

Kriz
08-08-2003, 04:51 AM
Ain't Quebec the French/English part of Canada ?

budanski
08-08-2003, 08:28 AM
Wow.............Budanski your real smart now we all know why people diss Polish people here.

Juss a lil information 2 you, there's only one part of Canada that's french and Halifax aint it.........dumbass. Just to let you know too the British beat French ass here soo aint noway this country is french.

Sure thing Escobar. I have relatives up in BC I know what language they speak and I know what language they speak in Quebec. Seeing how they're from the SAME country, I was generalizing. When you speak of yanks, I'm sure you're including the southerners as well,

BUTT-MUNCH!!

btw, why do people diss the Polish?

Smoothie104
08-08-2003, 09:26 AM
Pfc. Lynch withdraws cooperation for movie



LOS ANGELES, Aug. 7 (UPI) -- Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch has reportedly pulled out of a proposed deal with NBC for a television movie about her ordeal during the war in Iraq.

The New York Times said the Thursday decision followed by just one day an agreement between network executives and Lynch that would have paid her an undisclosed fee for her participation in the movie, which is due to start production in two weeks.

But the Times said Lynch family members scuttled those plans Thursday, announcing they want her authorized story told first in a book to be published before the end of the year.

NBC executives declined comment, but one executive told the newspaper the network was disappointed.

The network announced Wednesday it had chosen a Canadian actress, Laura Regan, to play Lynch in its planned original movie.

Argyll
08-08-2003, 09:59 AM
Won't be a very big book then,as I thought she had amnesia!!
This whole thing is a fiasco from start to finish!

duck
08-08-2003, 10:08 AM
She and her family have every right to squeeze even the last cent out of the media pockets. If it would not have been for her superiors incompetence, she would never had been wounded and captured. And who cares that the "rescue" was a SOF-boosting media stunt, no-one was hurt and the SEALs probably got some extra funding and future book deals. The Lynch story is exactly the kind of high-speed military-human interest combo that people want to watch, perfect prime-time infotainment.

Argyll
08-08-2003, 10:28 AM
You don't get "wounded" in a car crash!!!!!!!!
You suffer Blunt force trauma injuries.And it was injuries sustained in that HUMVEE crash that caused her injuries,when someone takes a round that's wounded,when somone gets hit by shrapnel,that's wounded!
Perhaps your definition of wounded is different than mine ;)

usa320
08-08-2003, 06:07 PM
wounded=injured.

Argyll
08-08-2003, 08:29 PM
injured=injured
this is military jargon wounded=shot/fragged/shrapnel!
so stubbing your big toe=wounded
Cutting yourself shaving=wounded
catching your pecker in the zip=wounded
sticking your thumb in your ass=self-inflicted wound!!

California Joe
08-08-2003, 08:36 PM
Jesus Christ, I just "wounded" my **** looking at **** on another window. :oops:

EliteWolf
08-09-2003, 02:35 AM
it annoys the hell out of me that the world makes a huge thing out of the whole lynch story, may i remind them that there are over 150 troops DEAD in this war who all fought and died for their country, not to mention the other pows who were rescued, what makes this lynch more special? its not like she took on a whole platoon of iraqis or took a bullet for a comrade. she was just some scared little 19 year old girl who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, we have had thousands of pows in our history, in my opinion, she has not done anything that earns her all this attention. im glad shes alright and she made it home and all, but the ****ing media just keeps dragging it on and ON!

**** THE MEDIA AND **** HOLLYWOOD!

Merik
08-09-2003, 02:49 AM
I knew it. I knew all along that some anti-war, butt-kissing, money monger, hollywood jackass would do something like this. And that actress should be ashamed of herself for actually accepting the role of a woman that has been through hell would have enough respect to NOT take the part.

And on top of that you would think they could come up with an original name too, "Saving Private Lynch". Geez this country has gone to **** in some places.

Mortimer
08-09-2003, 09:01 AM
whos the US propaganda minister again?

he should be shot before he gives the game away
rofl

GI_Rutger
08-09-2003, 01:09 PM
Jeez, its that an parodie on Andy McNab's escape?
Stupid GI Jane. Hollywood will never make such a good movie as
Bravo Two Zero.

Okay, they're going to make an PFC Lynche Barbie, an PFC Lynche game ( just like "Prisoner Of War"), an PFC Lynch work out video ( Do you now how fit i was in my 2 by 2 metres cell?). In a few years, maybe you win an meet n' greet with PFC Lynch...

Smintjes
08-09-2003, 02:23 PM
Ik can't believe people buy this ****. The whole "rescue" was framed from beginning to ending, all blatant lies. And that they call "based upon a true story".

Thank god we don't get that kind of BS over here in Europe. Or not thzt much at least.

Merik
08-09-2003, 03:17 PM
Ik can't believe people buy this ****. The whole "rescue" was framed from beginning to ending, all blatant lies. And that they call "based upon a true story".

Thank god we don't get that kind of BS over here in Europe. Or not thzt much at least.

It wasnt staged and dont even dare to say that in here again. You must be French to think like that. :fork:

budanski
08-09-2003, 04:59 PM
Thank god we don't get that kind of BS over here in Europe. Or not thzt much at least.

Yeah.... Right.


Eurocrats are a bunch of clowns -


Lorne Gunter
National Post (http://www.nationalpost.com/commentary/story.html?id=F67B4C08-9599-41B0-B434-33ADF629F69C)

Monday, July 28, 2003

What's next, mandatory safety goggles for exotic dancers in case a tassel rotates out of control and takes out an eye?

Last week, European bureaucrats told the jugglers, tightrope walkers and acrobats of the Moscow Circus they would have to wear protective headgear during their four-month tour of Britain.

Oh yeah. No sense in them taking unnecessary risks. There is a tragic report almost daily of some poor, unfortunate juggler being bonked to death when his balls (or pins, or flaming torches) fell suddenly and sharply on his noggin.

According to The Daily Telegraph, aerialist Goussein Khamdouleav, who does somersaults on a high wire 14 metres above the circus floor without a net "scoffed at the idea." In Brazil once, he fell from 7.5 metres, breaking both his arms and three ribs.

"A hard hat wouldn't have helped me then," snorted a nonplussed Khamdouleav, "and it won't help me now."

How long before all the cars have to install air bags for the European stops on the Formula One tour? Or models on the runways of Paris and Milan are compelled to wear hair nets, lest their flowing tresses obscure their vision and cause them to trip and plunge into the paparazzi pit? Or European heavyweights have to don Nerf gloves before entering the ring? Or concert pianists are made to wear chainmail mittens? Oh, sure, that might dampen the brilliance of their Rachmaninov, but that's a small price to pay to protect against the tragedy of sudden and unexpected slammings of piano lids.

Paul Archer, the Moscow Circus's general manager, blamed a "bureaucracy gone mad, with a lot of help from the current compensation culture." Officious little public servants bent on eliminating all risk from life, fed by the notion that if you are ever hurt, even through no one's fault but your own, someone else has to be made to pay, either taxpayers or insurance companies.

Canadian bureaucrats are manic enough. But next to their European counterparts they seem restrained. Never fear, though, any ridiculous idea for meddling in personal behaviour or taxing initiative in Europe will eventually be seen by bureaucrats and politicians here to be so "progressive" it will be irresistible.

When Sweden joined the EU, it was forced to call its strawberries Nordic berries because they did not meet the EU's 22-millimetre minimum. Swedish road construction flag persons were forced to remove some of the reflective strips from their safety vests because the amount exceeded EU standards. (There's actually a Union-wide standard for reflective stripping!?)

English chocolate and sausages, the Queen's lumber, French sheepdogs and scores more items have all fallen victim to ridiculous over-centralization, which is even worse than it is in Canada.

Two summers ago, trade inspectors tried to shut down the sawmill on the Queen's country estate of Sandringham, which makes and sells fence posts, flower boxes, firewood, feed troughs and picnic tables. The problems? There was no metric measuring stick on the premises approved by the chief European inspector of weights and measures, and while metric lengths were stamped on all the products, they were not stamped in letters as large as the Imperial lengths. (Shades of Quebec's language police and their fetish for French in larger letters on all business signage.)

While European regulations need not be applied to all "Crown enterprises," the bureaucrats who harassed the Queen's woodsmen said they were "not aware of the Queen having Crown immunity."

Huh? Even a republican like me knows the Queen is the Crown.

There are European regulations governing the volume of church bells, not just so the neighbours won't be disturbed, but because the body vibrations the loudest bells cause could lead to lower back pain. Technically, EU farmers are limited to no more than seven hours a day on a tractor under the same directive. Socialist Members of the European Parliament wanted tractor time capped at two hours per day.

Pheasant hunters may soon have to attend classes on the "hygiene of foodstuffs," so they can comply with European rules governing the "traceability" of all meat for human consumption.

One European body or another regulates the girth of peaches; the curvature of bananas; the volume of water in a toilet flush; the Europe-wide size of condoms (that one caused nearly every nation to insist the Euro-dom might be fine for the men in all the other EU states, but it would never fit the men in their country); the use of poles in fire halls; and the size of leeks. The EU agriculture department decrees leek size and shape "to ensure a level playing field in the marketing of leeks."

"End unfair leek sales, now!" I always say.

The width of seats at live theatres, the continued use of London's double-decker buses, even the switch from the English three-****g plug to the continental "two-pin version" is detailed to preserve "fair competition."

Don't worry, such lunacy is already on its way here.


http://www.cnn.com/interactive/us/9911/macys.parade/clowns.laugh.jpg
Cabinet Members of the European Union
gathering for a formal portrait.

RealUltimatePower
08-09-2003, 06:43 PM
The media is so ****ing gay :bash:

Mortimer
08-09-2003, 09:45 PM
Ik can't believe people buy this ****. The whole "rescue" was framed from beginning to ending, all blatant lies. And that they call "based upon a true story".

Thank god we don't get that kind of BS over here in Europe. Or not thzt much at least.

It wasnt staged and dont even dare to say that in here again. You must be French to think like that. :fork:

lololol
of course it was staged and if you believe it wasn't then you are gulible.
Propaganda its called.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/22/1058853076451.html


Happy ending to the tale that wagged the dog
July 23 2003




Heroine ... Private Lynch receives the Purple Heart from US Army surgeon general James Peake in Washington. Photo: US Army


Jessica Lynch, the wounded United States Army private whose ordeal in Iraq was hyped into a media fiction of heroism, was set for an emotional homecoming overnight in a rural West Virginia community bristling with flags, yellow ribbons and TV news trucks.

But when the 20-year-old arrives by Blackhawk helicopter, media critics say the TV cameras will not show the return of an injured soldier so much as a reality-TV drama co-produced by US Government propaganda and credulous reporters.

"It no longer matters in America whether something is true or false. The population has been conditioned to accept anything: sentimental stories, lies, atomic bomb threats," the publisher of Harper's magazine, John MacArthur, said.

Private Lynch was in a maintenance company convoy on March 23 when it was ambushed near the city of Nasiriyah. Eleven soldiers died and nine were wounded in a 90-minute firefight.

Private Lynch became a national heroine after media reports quoted unnamed US officials saying she fired on Iraqi forces despite sustaining multiple gunshot and stab wounds before being captured.

Army investigators concluded she was injured when her vehicle crashed into another in the convoy after it was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade.

The army said the convoy blundered into the ambush after getting lost and many of the unit's weapons malfunctioned. The US military also released video taken during an apparently daring rescue by American special forces who raided the Iraqi hospital where she was being treated.

Iraqi doctors at the hospital said later the US rescuers had faced no resistance.

Private Lynch has been quoted as saying she can remember nothing of the ambush or rescue.
Carolyn Martin, of the Annenberg School for Communication, said the media had failed by trusting the Government to reflect reality.

A US central command spokesman would not comment on whether the tale was propaganda.
*******



push me...and then just touch me.....

usa320
08-09-2003, 10:19 PM
Ik can't believe people buy this ****. The whole "rescue" was framed from beginning to ending, all blatant lies. And that they call "based upon a true story".[/img][/list]

I think the idea for a film is GAY. However it is wrong to discredit those who took part in the action to free her. The rescue wasnt "staged" with blank rounds... anyone dumb enough to go into a combat zone with blanks deserves to be shot at.

usa320
08-09-2003, 10:19 PM
And does anyone give a flying rats ass what mortimer thinks anymore?

:fork:

EliteWolf
08-09-2003, 10:35 PM
it wasnt staged, she was really taken captive, wounded and so forth, and the rescue was pretty real, although they could have done a much more covert operation instead of having the marines shoot everything that moves but hey, thats the marines for ya. just like the raid to kill saddams sons, it could have been done way differently, but they just came in and shot everything up for stupid politics. the raid to save lynch did happen, although im sure press releases stretched the truth to some degree, but it happened, there was danger because the territory the hospital was in was not under US or british control yet, it was hostile or unknown territory, and in hostile territory you can never be to careful.

but anyways, this whole movie thing is stupid, she didnt win a nobel peace prize, so she doesnt deserve her own ****ing movie.

heres one for you hollywood, nn||np

**** HOLLYWOOD, **** THE MEDIA, AND **** HERALDO RIVERA! rofl

Mortimer
08-09-2003, 11:05 PM
And does anyone give a flying rats ass what mortimer thinks anymore?

:fork:

poor little baby, did i offend your poor patriot american heart?
i don't care what you think, otherwise i would have left long ago....

the facts are there believe it or not it WAS staged and you think them making it into a movie is coincidence? this movie would have been planed long before she was rescued.

wake up dood your being conned

Vance
08-09-2003, 11:12 PM
Of course I do not think the entire ambush was staged because people died and people were injured. But I do think the raid was made more than it really was.

budanski
08-09-2003, 11:47 PM
lololol
of course it was staged and if you believe it wasn't then you are gulible.
Propaganda its called.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/22/1058853076451.html

I cannot stress this enough. YOU ARE THE IDIOT SAVANT... minus the savant

The same bogus claims were made during the fall of the Saddam statue, but what most can't explain is if embedded reporters were present, why didnt anyone of these guys put one and one together...


Exerpt (http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/001350.html)

"We've got a few hundred troops that MUST know what's going on, troops that MUST be involved in the rescue. In addition to the troops, we've got pilots, various civilian support personnel and EMBEDDED REPORTERS who cannot be kept in the dark, because the very fact of attempted concealment will raise questions that cannot be answered.

As we have seen from the war coverage in general, embedded reporters also report a lot of rumors. I point this out not as a criticism of the reporters, but to illustrate that they are fully plugged in to the military rumour mill/grapevine. We have seen them report a lot of things that turned out to be contrary to fact. For instance, they reported that Jessica Lynch had been shot and stabbed. These rumours were debunked by Centcom almost immediately.

So in this case, if the military DID stage the Jessica Lynch rescue, they managed to do it in such a fashion that NONE of those hundreds of troops, none of the officers, pilots, and civilian support personnel who had to have seen something never saw anything the least bit suspicious. They never saw anything that could start a tiny rumour that there was something wrong.

Meanwhile, who is making the allegations that it was faked? Iraqis. Iraqis who were members of the Ba'athist power structure. The same sort of Iraqis who blamed the US for the looting of thousands of valuable objects from the national museum, which turned out to involve some few dozen objects and which may well have been stolen before the war began. The same sort of Iraqis who are constantly telling the media that the US is not welcome.

There are apparently a LOT of former members of the Ba'athist power structure who spend their time finding bad things to say about the USA as this article from the Weekly Standard points out.

The BBC, which is one of THE most anti-American press organizations in the world, is happy to lap this up and spit it back out.

It helps to understand that everyone involved in telling this story has an agenda of their own that is best served by puffing it up as much as possible.

The best thing to do is just strap on your tinfoil hat when you tune to the BBC."

usa320
08-09-2003, 11:52 PM
Ok, lets ask this Mortimer....would YOU walk around iraq with an M-4 full of Blank ammunition?

And you sure as hell dont know "the facts" thats for god damn sure...

The raid was not staged.

The movie is a gay idea.

Its the same people that pissed and moaned over the war that now want to capitalize on it.

And its mortimer who is being conned, out of common sense.

usa320
08-09-2003, 11:53 PM
This is a page created by US armed forces, to showcase photos of the US Armed forces... Why queers like mortimer are allowed here...beats the frickin **** outta me...

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 12:10 AM
politics+US Army wannabes= error

usa do you have military experience?

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 12:14 AM
This is a page created by US armed forces, to showcase photos of the US Armed forces... Why queers like mortimer are allowed here...beats the frickin **** outta me...

disturbing your ignorant peace that you are trying so hard to hold on to am i?

there are also photos from other countries armed forces.....or didn't you notice?

Merik
08-10-2003, 12:24 AM
Nobody reply to Mortimer and his posts, even usa320. The last thing we need is another flame war from either an ignorant liberal or european who has no clue about what its like to live in a great country.

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 12:32 AM
lololol
of course it was staged and if you believe it wasn't then you are gulible.
Propaganda its called.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/22/1058853076451.html

I cannot stress this enough. YOU ARE THE IDIOT SAVANT... minus the savant

The same bogus claims were made during the fall of the Saddam statue, but what most can't explain is if embedded reporters were present, why didnt anyone of these guys put one and one together...


Exerpt (http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/001350.html)

"We've got a few hundred troops that MUST know what's going on, troops that MUST be involved in the rescue. In addition to the troops, we've got pilots, various civilian support personnel and EMBEDDED REPORTERS who cannot be kept in the dark, because the very fact of attempted concealment will raise questions that cannot be answered.

As we have seen from the war coverage in general, embedded reporters also report a lot of rumors. I point this out not as a criticism of the reporters, but to illustrate that they are fully plugged in to the military rumour mill/grapevine. We have seen them report a lot of things that turned out to be contrary to fact. For instance, they reported that Jessica Lynch had been shot and stabbed. These rumours were debunked by Centcom almost immediately.

So in this case, if the military DID stage the Jessica Lynch rescue, they managed to do it in such a fashion that NONE of those hundreds of troops, none of the officers, pilots, and civilian support personnel who had to have seen something never saw anything the least bit suspicious. They never saw anything that could start a tiny rumour that there was something wrong.

Meanwhile, who is making the allegations that it was faked? Iraqis. Iraqis who were members of the Ba'athist power structure. The same sort of Iraqis who blamed the US for the looting of thousands of valuable objects from the national museum, which turned out to involve some few dozen objects and which may well have been stolen before the war began. The same sort of Iraqis who are constantly telling the media that the US is not welcome.

There are apparently a LOT of former members of the Ba'athist power structure who spend their time finding bad things to say about the USA as this article from the Weekly Standard points out.

The BBC, which is one of THE most anti-American press organizations in the world, is happy to lap this up and spit it back out.

It helps to understand that everyone involved in telling this story has an agenda of their own that is best served by puffing it up as much as possible.

The best thing to do is just strap on your tinfoil hat when you tune to the BBC."

the article i posted isn't from the BBC it was from a fairfax newspaper taken from *******, and i am not a Ba'athist.

So as soon as someone questions/critises the US government or media they are classed as 'anti_american' or terroists...so much for freedom of speech...stop trying to kid yourself.

Funny how the embedded reporters are'nt paying off like the USG wanted them to.

"Dean's World
Defending the liberal tradition in history, politics, science and philosophy."

So Dean what about the doctors who said they had tried to take her to the US army in and ambulance, said there were no soldiers around during the rescue yet the video shows gunfire and action....why can't JL remember anything? its a load of BS and you know it.

please.....

and the tinfoil joke? as well as lame its just dumb.....grow up...oh no wait...you have...sucks be to you.

And i'm not European......and i am glad i don't live in America it looks like a terrible place to live.

budanski
08-10-2003, 12:47 AM
the article i posted isn't from the BBC it was from a fairfax newspaper taken from *******, and i am not a Ba'athist.
It was an exerpt from someone else's post they werent addressing you, I was.



So as soon as someone questions/critises the US government or media they are classed as 'anti_american' or terroists...so much for freedom of speech...stop trying to kid yourself.
You werent questioning, you were spewing tripe!!!



Funny how the embedded reporters are'nt paying off like the USG wanted them to.
Says who? The benefits of having them there paid off more than had anticipated. Anyways, it limits conspiracy theorists like yourselves with slim pickings.



and the tinfoil joke? as well as lame its just dumb.....grow up...oh no wait...you have...sucks be to you.
As a true idiot, you failed to see who made that comment.

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 01:13 AM
the article i posted isn't from the BBC it was from a fairfax newspaper taken from *******, and i am not a Ba'athist.
It was an exerpt from someone else's post they werent addressing you, I was.



So as soon as someone questions/critises the US government or media they are classed as 'anti_american' or terroists...so much for freedom of speech...stop trying to kid yourself.
You werent questioning, you were spewing tripe!!!



Funny how the embedded reporters are'nt paying off like the USG wanted them to.
Says who? The benefits of having them there paid off more than had anticipated. Anyways, it limits conspiracy theorists like yourselves with slim pickings.



and the tinfoil joke? as well as lame its just dumb.....grow up...oh no wait...you have...sucks be to you.
As a true idiot, you failed to see who made that comment.

don't worry i saw who made it. just shows how credible your source is.
yet again your arguments are based on...nothing all you can do is call me an idiot....how mature. You havn't given me one shread of convincing evidence except the opinions of some guy from Michigan.....great.

and the embedded journos? how about 3rd inf div?? ring any bells?

budanski
08-10-2003, 01:38 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you're making such claims, the burdens on you.

What about the 3rd ID?

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 01:42 AM
i used an article that two credible media companies, in two different countries published...??? not some idiot who likes giving his two cents...

and the 3rd inf div has expelled most of its emmbedded reporters becuase they were reporting whats acually happening such as troop moral.

not to mention sporatic cases since the beginning of the war

budanski
08-10-2003, 01:59 AM
First off, I posted that exerpt to back up in detail with what I had previously stated myself. Secondly, if you had actually read the questions he posted, I seriously doubt you or credible source has yet to answer or to think logically through.

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 02:07 AM
yeah i know....and i said that to use someone like Dean to back up your argument is not a good idea...gawd at least use foxnews or something.

Deans questions are stupid...circumstantial and just plain dumb. raising the question of the soldiers is the dumbest thing ever...you know embedded reporters would have been hand picked...

There is evidence and testimony from/by many people who were there(Dean wasn't) that the rescue was staged, my article was one part of that.

usa320
08-10-2003, 02:13 AM
I reckon mortimer aint in a position to be calling anyone dumb. :slap:

budanski
08-10-2003, 02:18 AM
Again, Deans comments was a sample and not meant as a definite official credible source. If you want, I can google to your hearts content with other sources. What I'm saying is that with your claims of it being staged, with or without Deans opinions, why didnt the embedded reporters (over 600 were embedded in the war) picked this up? nor any one of the soldiers, pilots, etc involved in the rescue come out saying so?

Merik
08-10-2003, 02:19 AM
Because they were afraid Mortimer would start a flame war saying things that he doesnt have a clue about. :bash:

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 02:42 AM
Again, Deans comments was a sample and not meant as a definite official credible source. If you want, I can google to your hearts content with other sources. What I'm saying is that with your claims of it being staged, with or without Deans opinions, why didnt the embedded reporters (over 600 were embedded in the war) picked this up? nor any one of the soldiers, pilots, etc involved in the rescue come out saying so?

lol they did! some ****head in a room didn't just 'think this **** up' the claims originated from a number of people hence...the media acted on it.

The Australian media is talking about it as if it were a given that it was staged....and they supported the war, lol?

I don't know about you guys but i have spoken to many different people about JL i even used it in an exam as a related text and i'll tell you what...they didn't say i was wrong. and it was marked by three different people. lol one of them even gave me pointers to make it better.

SO merik and usa...i DO know what i am talking about like a lot of things i say here...the thing is i have a different opinion then you guys and i can back mine up without using comments like "your stupid" and "shut up", because that's all i'm getting from you..lol makes you sound REAL intelligent huh?

I also failed to see when a discussion on a forum became a flame war....you guys need to see things from another perspective.

budanski
08-10-2003, 03:33 PM
lol they did! some ****head in a room didn't just 'think this **** up' the claims originated from a number of people hence...the media acted on it.


Again, who were making these allegations? Were they not the Iraqis? The same few Iraqis who are currently involved in the guerilla warfare against the US today?

Seeing that you're still a little snot nosed punk in school, you'll have to come to realise what is trash news and what is credible. Your conspiracy theories have to merit and prey on the naive like yourself. Seeing yourself as the ONLY soul to actually "get it" and the rest of the world blind is most absurb.

You speaking to your peers of Jessica Lynch, who had never actually left Australia, is just heresay. Stick to Pokeman trading cards :roll:

Mortimer
08-10-2003, 10:57 PM
lol they did! some ****head in a room didn't just 'think this **** up' the claims originated from a number of people hence...the media acted on it.


Again, who were making these allegations? Were they not the Iraqis? The same few Iraqis who are currently involved in the guerilla warfare against the US today?

Seeing that you're still a little snot nosed punk in school, you'll have to come to realise what is trash news and what is credible. Your conspiracy theories have to merit and prey on the naive like yourself. Seeing yourself as the ONLY soul to actually "get it" and the rest of the world blind is most absurb.

You speaking to your peers of Jessica Lynch, who had never actually left Australia, is just heresay. Stick to Pokeman trading cards :roll:

i could be at uni studying political science for all you know...don't make assumptions.

yet again your arguments are reduced to immature comments.....you sound really intelligent.

arguing with you is like talking to a brick wall...and i think i'll stop now, becuase you are yet again showing the intelligence of a little kid.

usa320
08-11-2003, 12:42 AM
Mortimer, ill give you this pokeman for that Uday Hussein Queen of Hearts... rofl