90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany

[gaz]

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British WWI veteran First Mechanic Royal Naval Air Service Henry Allingham, aged 108, attends a ceremony to mark the 90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1914, at the Cenotaph in London, August 4, 2004. *******/Stephen Hird

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British WWI veteran Private John Oborne, aged 104, attends a ceremony to mark the 90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1914, at the Cenotaph in London, August 4, 2004. *******/Stephen Hird

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British WWI veterans (holding wreaths, L-R) Chief Petty Officer Navy William Stone, aged 103, First Mechanic Royal Navy Air Service Henry Allingham, aged 108, Private Fred Lloyd, aged 106 and Private John Oborne, aged 104, attend a ceremony to mark the 90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1914, at the Cenotaph in London, August 4, 2004. *******/Stephen Hird

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British WWI veteran Chief Petty Officer Navy William Stone (L), aged 103, attends a ceremony to mark the 90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1914, at the Cenotaph in London, August 4, 2004. *******/Stephen Hird

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British WWI veteran Chief Petty Officer Navy William Stone (L), aged 103, attends a ceremony to mark the 90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1914, at the Cenotaph in London, August 4, 2004. *******/Stephen Hird

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British WWI veterans Chief Petty Officer Navy William Stone (L), aged 103 and (in wheelchairs L-R) Private Fred Lloyd, aged 106, First Mechanic Royal Navy Air Service Henry Allingham, aged 108 and Private John Oborne, aged 104, attend a ceremony to mark the 90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1914, at the Cenotaph in London, August 4, 2004. *******/Stephen Hird

[FozzieBear]

RIP to those 750,000 that lost their lives :|

[Jehuty]

RIP to those 750,000 that lost their lives :|

900000 actually, if you count the whole Empire.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5757/flaggb_f2r.gif

:hug:

[Roger Rabbit]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3532584.stm

Four World War I veterans have laid wreaths at the Cenotaph in London to mark the 90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1914.

The men - all aged over 100 - also read poems and prayers at the ceremony. They were accompanied by deputy prime minister John Prescott, veterans minister Ivor Caplin and Commonwealth high commissioners to London. Mr Prescott and Mr Caplin also laid wreaths on behalf of the Queen, the government and the Commonwealth.

Veterans Henry Allingham, 108, from Eastbourne, East Sussex, William Stone, 103, from Watlington, Oxfordshire, John Oborne, 104, from Porthcawl, Carmarthenshire and Fred Lloyd, 106, from Uckfield, East Sussex took part in the ceremony. The service started at 1100 BST, when Mr Allingham, Mr Oborne and Mr Lloyd were escorted in their wheelchairs from the Foreign Office to the Cenotaph by serving members of the Armed Forces. Mr Stone walked behind his colleagues, as hundreds of people looked on.

Following the lament of the Last Post and a minute's silence, the four men laid wreaths for those slain between 1914 and 1918. Mr Allingham, Britain's oldest known surviving World War I veteran, struggled free of his wheelchair and bent down in front of the Cenotaph unaided to lay his wreath. Mr Stone led the service by delivering the exhortation before Mr Allingham and Mr Oborne read the Lord's Prayer. Mr Lloyd recited John McCrae's haunting 1915 poem In Flanders Field. After the ceremony, the men received veteran's badges at the Ministry of Defence.


Tribute

Dennis Goodwin, secretary of the World War One Veterans' Association, paid tribute to the veterans. "These are very brave men, as witnessed by the fact that they made this journey to London today to stand in front of the country's, the Queen's monument to our glorious dead," he said. "They are here to remember their survival and to pay homage to those who were less fortunate than they." Mr Lloyd, who lost both his brothers between 1914 and 1918, said: "War is not a wonderful thing to be remembered, but those who died must never be forgotten." Other guests at the Cenotaph service included Lord Kitchener, a great nephew of Kitchener, the head of the war ministry who rallied an army of a million men with his war-call "Britain needs you". Germany declared war on France on 3 August, 1914, and Britain declared war on Germany on 4 August.

Some 900,000 soldiers from across the British empire died in action in the conflict, and more than two million were wounded.

[ice55]

Country Men in war Battle deaths Wounded

Australia
1,000,000/26,976/180,864
Austria
800,000/280,000/350,117
Belgium
625,000/8,460/55,5131
Brazil2
40,334/943/4,222
Bulgaria
339,760/6,671/21,878
Canada
1,086,343/42,0427/53,145
China3
17,250,521/1,324,516/1,762,006
Czechoslovakia
-NA-/66,834/8,017
Denmark
-NA—/4,339/—NA-
Finland
500,000/79,047/50,000
France
-NA—/201,568/400,000
Germany
20,000,000/3,250,0004/7,250,000
Greece
-NA—/17,024/47,290
Hungary
-NA—/147,435/89,313
India
2,393,891/32,121/64,354
Italy
3,100,000/149,4964/66,716
Japan
9,700,000/1,270,000/140,000
Netherlands
280,000/6,500/2,860
New Zealand
194,000/11,625/17,000
Norway
75,000/2,000/—NA-
Poland
-NA—/664,000/530,000
Romania
650,000/350,0006/—NA-
South Africa
410,056/2,473/—NA-
U.S.S.R.
-NA—/6,115,0004/14,012,000
United Kingdom
5,896,000/357,116/369,267
United States
16,112,566/291,557/670,846
Yugoslavia
3,741,000/305,000/425,000

1. Civilians only.
2. Army and navy figures.
3. Figures cover period July 7, 1937–Sept. 2, 1945, and concern only Chinese regular troops. They do not include casualties suffered by guerrillas and local military corps.
4. Deaths from all causes.
5. Against Soviet Russia; 385,847 against Nazi Germany.
6. Against Soviet Russia; 169,822 against Nazi Germany.
7. National Defense Ctr., Canadian Forces Hq., Director of History.
NOTE: The figures in this table are unofficial estimates obtained from various sources.

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

Sad statistics :(

now for the best 1!

We beat germany twice! :lol:

[Jehuty]

Country Men in war Battle deaths Wounded

Australia
1,000,000/26,976/180,864
Austria
800,000/280,000/350,117
Belgium
625,000/8,460/55,5131
Brazil2
40,334/943/4,222
Bulgaria
339,760/6,671/21,878
Canada
1,086,343/42,0427/53,145
China3
17,250,521/1,324,516/1,762,006
Czechoslovakia
-NA-/66,834/8,017
Denmark
-NA—/4,339/—NA-
Finland
500,000/79,047/50,000
France
-NA—/201,568/400,000
Germany
20,000,000/3,250,0004/7,250,000
Greece
-NA—/17,024/47,290
Hungary
-NA—/147,435/89,313
India
2,393,891/32,121/64,354
Italy
3,100,000/149,4964/66,716
Japan
9,700,000/1,270,000/140,000
Netherlands
280,000/6,500/2,860
New Zealand
194,000/11,625/17,000
Norway
75,000/2,000/—NA-
Poland
-NA—/664,000/530,000
Romania
650,000/350,0006/—NA-
South Africa
410,056/2,473/—NA-
U.S.S.R.
-NA—/6,115,0004/14,012,000
United Kingdom
5,896,000/357,116/369,267
United States
16,112,566/291,557/670,846
Yugoslavia
3,741,000/305,000/425,000

1. Civilians only.
2. Army and navy figures.
3. Figures cover period July 7, 1937–Sept. 2, 1945, and concern only Chinese regular troops. They do not include casualties suffered by guerrillas and local military corps.
4. Deaths from all causes.
5. Against Soviet Russia; 385,847 against Nazi Germany.
6. Against Soviet Russia; 169,822 against Nazi Germany.
7. National Defense Ctr., Canadian Forces Hq., Director of History.
NOTE: The figures in this table are unofficial estimates obtained from various sources.

Lol these numbers are the statistics of WW2, not WW1. ;)

[ice55]

OPPS!!!

Country Mobilized Killed Wounded Total Casualties
Africa
1 55,000 10,000 unknown unknown -
Australia
330,000 59,000 152,000 211,000 64%
Austria-Hungary*
6,500,000 1,200,000 3,620,000 4,820,000 74%
Belgium*
207,000 13,000 44,000 57,000 28%
Bulgaria*
400,000 101,000 153,000 254,000 64%
Canada
620,000 67,000 173,000 241,000 39%
The Caribbean
2 21,000 1,000 3,000 4,000 19%
French Empire*
7,500,000 1,385,000 4,266,000 5,651,000 75%
Germany*
11,000,000 1,718,000 4,234,000 5,952,000 54%
Great Britain*
5,397,000 703,000 1,663,000 2,367,000 44%
Greece*
230,000 5,000 21,000 26,000 11%
India3
1,500,000 43,000 65,000 108,000 7%
Italy*
5,500,000 60,000 947,000 1,407,000 26%
Japan*
800,000 250 1,000 1,250 0.2%
Montenegro*
50,000 3,000 10,000 13,000 26%
New Zealand
110,000 18,000 55,000 73,000 66%
Portugal*
100,000 7,000 15,000 22,000 22%
Romania*
750,000 200,000 120,000 320,000 43%
Russia*
12,000,000 1,700,000 4,950,000 6,650,000 55%
Serbia*
707,000 128,000 133,000 261,000 37%
South Africa
149,000 7,000 12,000 19,000 13%
Turkey*
1,600,000 336,000 400,000 736,000 46%
USA*
4,272,500 117,000 204,000 321,000 8%


*. Statistics cited from The Longman Companion to the First World War (Colin Nicholson, Longman 2001, pg. 248); they have been rounded to the nearest thousand. All percentages are my own; they refer to the % of the total mobilized.
1. The figure of 55,000 refers to soldiers who saw combat; the number of Africans involved as auxiliaries or otherwise is likely to include several hundred thousand. Troops were drawn from Nigeria, Gambia, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone, Uganda, Nyasaland/Malawi, Kenya and the Gold Coast. Figures for South Africa are given separately.
2. The British West Indies regiment drew men from across the Caribbean, including Barbados, Bahamas, Honduras, Grenada, Guyana, Leeward Islands, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and Trinidad and Tobago; the bulk came from Jamaica.

[gaz]

now for the best 1!

We beat germany twice! :lol:

Please keep that kind of crap out of this thread and show some respect.

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Take a look at that face and ask yourself this - While he's remembering the friends he lost do you actually thing he gives a **** if "we beat Germany twice"?

[He219]

90th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany
RIP to entire generations as a result of WWI ...
:(

[Freibier]

now for the best 1!

We beat germany twice! :lol:
We gave you and your entente friends a hell of a fight ...
RIP to all the fallen :(

[Jehuty]

75% of casualties....


RIP to entire generations as a result of WWI ...

x2

[Virus]

wow, the 103 year old veteren and the other guy, standing pretty much....i havent seen a lot of people over 100 :/

[oldsoak]

now for the best 1!

We beat germany twice! :lol:
We gave you and your entente friends a hell of a fight ...
RIP to all the fallen :(

Fair one - Germans were always good fighters. I've had a few mates whose dads fought in the wehrmacht and now live in the UK. Funny old world.

[RuSoKaR]

eh, somehow people in western Europe have much more respect to the WWI, while this war became forgetten in Russia, because of the Soviet government.. :(

They gave their lifes for our brighter future.

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

now for the best 1!

We beat germany twice! :lol:

Please keep that kind of crap out of this thread and show some respect.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040804/i/r2066673400.jpg

Take a look at that face and ask yourself this - While he's remembering the friends he lost do you actually thing he gives a **** if "we beat Germany twice"?

Calm down..... it was a joke... and no i dont think hes thinking of that and i never said he did! so please dont put words in my mouth!

[Shadow]

Sad statistics :(

now for the best 1!

We beat germany twice! :lol:

We = the rest of the World? Or we = uk?

[Foreigner]

eh, somehow people in western Europe have much more respect to the WWI, while this war became forgetten in Russia, because of the Soviet government.. :(

They gave their lifes for our brighter future.

Maybe that's because over 20 million soviets lost their lives in the war. Maybe that's because the germans were slaughtering whole villages for no apparent reason. Maybe that's because the SS divisions not just shot people to death, but they usually tortured them before killing.

Hitler gave his army orders to 'behave' in Western/Middle Europe. While on the East front there were no rules. The germans were looting, killing, raping, murdering and torturing. Just for the hell of it.

Germany has a shamefull history, but a bright future. It's the country that has let in most refugees in Europe per capita(in the last couple of decades). If there's a place where it's hard to be a nazi and exersise it then it is Germany (besides Israël ofcaurse :P ) It's one of the most tolerant countries in Europe.

[Tom The Hunter]

So Britain attacked Germany!

[gaz]

Calm down..... it was a joke... and no i dont think hes thinking of that and i never said he did! so please dont put words in my mouth!

It wasn't funny and at no point did I "put words in your mouth", I requested you ask yourself a question. I simply ask that this thread stay free of jingoism and remain as it should be - a tribute to fallen men and to those who are left as shown in the photos.

[Fenna]

So Britain attacked Germany!

LOL, what a nutjob

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

Sad statistics :(

now for the best 1!

We beat germany twice! :lol:

We = the rest of the World? Or we = uk?

We as in all who thought in the war against Germany and Co..




Calm down..... it was a joke... and no i dont think hes thinking of that and i never said he did! so please dont put words in my mouth!

It wasn't funny and at no point did I "put words in your mouth", I requested you ask yourself a question. I simply ask that this thread stay free of jingoism and remain as it should be - a tribute to fallen men and to those who are left as shown in the photos.

U dont find it funny tuff... im sorry if anybody took offence to this i was only trying to lighten up the mood... and i have great respect for those who died in the war and those who thought.... an again sorry...

I salute the guys who thought in ww1
Below is the oldest, Henry Allingham

http://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/images/celebs/allinh.jpg

[Freibier]

That's a great pic ! :D

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

yep, nell mcandrew.......

http://www.planetboredom.net/pix/data/media/25/nell_20.jpg

Shes a fine girl..... :)

and heres Henry Allingham in the wheel chair *salutes

http://www.hmscossack.freeserve.co.uk/RE_2004/JP-GT-GL-HA-CD.JPG

[He219]

So Britain attacked Germany!
LOL, what a nutjob

Not entirely out of order.

The Serbian 'Black Hand (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWblackhand.htm)' assasinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia on 28 July 1914 unsatisfied with Serbia's response to her ultimatum.

Serbia's ally Russia mobilizes for war against Austria-Hungary.

Germany, allied to Austria-Hungary by treaty, viewed the Russian mobilisation as an act of war against Austria-Hungary, and after scant warning declared war on Russia on 1 August.

France, bound by treaty to Russia, responded by announcing war against Germany and, by extension, on Austria-Hungary on 3 August. Germany promptly responded by invading neutral Belgium so as to reach Paris by the shortest possible route.

Britain, allied to France by a more loosely worded treaty which placed a "moral obligation" upon her to defend France, declared war against Germany on 4 August. Her reason for entering the conflict lay in another direction: she was obligated to defend neutral Belgium by the terms of a 75-year old treaty. Like France, she was by extension also at war with Austria-Hungary.

With Britain's entry into the war, her colonies and dominions abroad variously offered military and financial assistance, and included Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa.

Japan, honouring a military agreement with Britain, declared war on Germany on 23 August 1914. Two days later Austria-Hungary responded by declaring war on Japan.



WWI was a blatant war of opportunism reflected by:

Austro-Hungarian determination to impose its will upon the Balkans; a German desire for greater power and international influence, which sparked a naval arms race with Britain, who responded by building new and greater warships, the Dreadnought; a French desire for revenge against Germany following disastrous defeat in 1871; Russia's anxiety to restore some semblance of national prestige after almost a decade of civil strife and a battering at the hands of the Japanese military in 1905.
http://www.firstworldwar.com/origins/causes.htm

[Fenna]

Thanks for the causes of WW1 He, when i called Tom the Hunter a nutjob, it was in reference to all of his anti-British comments in another thread. IT just seemed stupid how he we was trying to make out Britain was being evil again by going to war with Germany in 1914, as he has some sort of complex against Britain.

[memphiz]

Great pics Gaz
RIP to the fallen
I had no relitives fight for Canada, only Belguim I think, If I can find pics Ill post em

[Tom The Hunter]

Thanks for the causes of WW1 He, when i called Tom the Hunter a nutjob, it was in reference to all of his anti-British comments in another thread. IT just seemed stupid how he we was trying to make out Britain was being evil again by going to war with Germany in 1914, as he has some sort of complex against Britain.

You are the evil!

[Jehuty]

Thanks for the causes of WW1 He, when i called Tom the Hunter a nutjob, it was in reference to all of his anti-British comments in another thread. IT just seemed stupid how he we was trying to make out Britain was being evil again by going to war with Germany in 1914, as he has some sort of complex against Britain.

You are the evil!

Yes British are the Devil.
No wait they are not, and this is really not the right thread for this kind of bull****s.
Shut the hell up.

[FozzieBear]

brits own :P btw jehuty were you on UKAN?

[Jehuty]

brits own :P btw jehuty were you on UKAN?

Since i don't know what you are talking about i will say no O_o

[FozzieBear]

nevermind :P someone with the same name as you on another board

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

Theres a Jehuty i know in the Americas army forum... is that you?

[FozzieBear]

how many bloody jehutys are there? btw i hate americas army :P having to do the training sucks and there isnt enough levels and they arent big enough

[Jehuty]

Theres a Jehuty i know in the Americas army forum... is that you?

Probably.Which forum? :P

[Geezah]

Thanks for the causes of WW1 He, when i called Tom the Hunter a nutjob, it was in reference to all of his anti-British comments in another thread. IT just seemed stupid how he we was trying to make out Britain was being evil again by going to war with Germany in 1914, as he has some sort of complex against Britain.

You are the evil!

Mate....you need help!

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

Theres a Jehuty i know in the Americas army forum... is that you?

Probably.Which forum? :P

This ya sig???

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8117/Rev.JPG

[VorpalDoom]

im so thankful i'll probobly never have to live through a war like WW1 or WW2... im glad war has changed so much sense then. I dont think the world would allow a 3rd war on either of the scales

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

I dont think the world would allow a 3rd war on either of the scales

The world never aloud this to happen last time, it was just the outcome of a world war, whos choice would it be to choose the scale of world war 3, there is none... we now face larger threats such as nukes! i dont think war will ever scale down mate!

[Sorbas2000]

eh, somehow people in western Europe have much more respect to the WWI, while this war became forgetten in Russia, because of the Soviet government.. :(

They gave their lifes for our brighter future.

Maybe that's because over 20 million soviets lost their lives in the war. Maybe that's because the germans were slaughtering whole villages for no apparent reason. Maybe that's because the SS divisions not just shot people to death, but they usually tortured them before killing.

Hitler gave his army orders to 'behave' in Western/Middle Europe. While on the East front there were no rules. The germans were looting, killing, raping, murdering and torturing. Just for the hell of it.

Germany has a shamefull history, but a bright future. It's the country that has let in most refugees in Europe per capita(in the last couple of decades). If there's a place where it's hard to be a nazi and exersise it then it is Germany (besides Israël ofcaurse :P ) It's one of the most tolerant countries in Europe.

From 20 million dead Russians, approx. 1/3 were civilians and 2/3 were soldiers. Russians won the war because auf superior military production (more produced tanks, fighters, artillery) as well as brutal soldiers killing tactics. There are many reports, that russian special troops killed their own units for falling back.

Most of the dead civilians lost their lifes during fights in their towns (e.g. at work in bombed facilities), as partizans and during prepairing the front line. Of cause many Russians were killed in concentration camps or were murdered...but not 20 million. I don't want to play down German crimes, but you have to distinguish between crime and "general" casualties.

Loss of lives in World War II Country Soldiers Civilians Total Jews
Belgium 12.000 76.000 88.000 40.000 45%
Bulgaria 10.000 10.000 20.000 7.000 15%
Canada 37.000 - 37.000 --
China 3.500.000 6à10 million 9,5à13,5 mil. --
Denmark 400 1.000 1.400 1.500 1%
Germany 3.000.000 3.000.000 6.000.000 170.000 85%
Finland 82.000 2.000 84.000 -- -%
France 199.000 400.000 599.000 90.000 25%
Greece 20.000 140.000 160.000 60.000 80%
Britain 295.000 62.000 357.000 --
Hungary 180.000 280.000 460.000 200.000 70%
Italy 330.000 80.000 410.000 15.000 15%
Japan 1.700.000 360.000 2.060.000 --
Yugoslavia 300.000 1.400.000 1.700.000 55.000 75%
Luxembourg 4.000 1.000 5.000 3.000 80%
Netherlands 19.000 225.000 244.000 104.000 70%
Norway 6.000 4.000 10.000 1.500 40%
Austria 230.000 104.000 334.000 40.000 90%
Poland 125.000 5.800.000 5.925.000 2.800.000 90%
Rumania 300.000 260.000 560.000 425.000 20%
Russia 13.600.00 7.000.000 20.600.000 1.720.000 70%
Czechoslovakia 250.000 330.000 580.000 260.000 90%
United States 293.000 - 293.000 --