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EvanL
08-04-2004, 11:06 AM
U.S. ARMY RUNAWAY TO CANADA LOSES REFUGEE CLAIM
By TOM GODFREY, TORONTO SUN

THE FIRST of three U.S. Army deserters who fled to Canada to avoid military service has lost his refugee claim and is being booted back across the border. The name of the soldier, who lives in the Toronto area, and details about his case were not released by the Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) due to privacy concerns.

Two other U.S. Army privates -- Jeremy Hinzman, 25, and Brandon Hughey, 18 --have also filed refugee claims and appeared for hearings in Toronto last month.

The IRB, in a decision obtained yesterday, didn't believe the unidentified soldier would be tortured or killed for bolting on his platoon members, adding the soldier was not a conventional refugee or a person in need of protection.

'FEARED PENALTIES'

"He feared the penalties imposed for desertion would amount to cruel and unusual punishment," the board said in a partial decision.

IRB spokesman Serge Arsenault said the full decision wasn't available yesterday.

"The claimant feared that because of multiple charges he might face eight years in the brig," the board said, adding the man could have faced the death penalty if the U.S. was at war when he bolted.

The IRB said the soldier was not a conscientious objector and had no religious or moral reason for disobeying orders.

Meanwhile, Hinzman and Hughey had their hearings before the IRB adjourned until later this year.

Hinzman served in Afghanistan as a cook, but fled here from the 82nd Airborne Regiment in North Carolina last January when he was called for action in Iraq.

ORDERED TO IRAQ

Hughey joined the military in 2002 and was ready to take part in military operations until he was ordered to Iraq. He fled to Canada after slipping past military police in March.

catalyst
08-04-2004, 11:34 AM
if they aint objecting to military service in a volunteer army based upon religous grounds....


Then throw the book at them. Lock them in the brig for aslong as possible. Either that or send them to Falujha and make them wear a sign board saying "I hate sand ******" and leave him for 1 min. See wat happens to him!


And then broadcast it on national TV!

Jack Mehoff
08-04-2004, 12:43 PM
wuss

BlackRain
08-04-2004, 01:32 PM
A cook? I mean that is pathetic. What was he afraid of?

Now he will cook in prision instead.

mi35d
08-04-2004, 02:13 PM
Saw this sort of crap around the first Gulf War. "I didn't sign up for this".

Gee, what might have given you a clue that you might possibly have to go to bad places? Could it have been the gun things you shot during your training? Or maybe it was the BAYONET drills? How about all the TANKS or maybe HELICOPTERS? Or maybe, just maybe, you signed up for THE MARINE CORPS!!!

Best one I heard was a female chopper pilot in Panama in the late 80's who didn't want to fly because she was breast feeding. Army bent over backwards - gave her an office job, two hour lunch breaks, etc. Still bitched and tried to sue the government on her child's behalf, claiming making her fly was a violation of her child's constitutional right to breastfeed. MORON!

Hydro
08-04-2004, 02:29 PM
You could almost understand a conscript buggering off, but a VOLUNTEER?! What a ****ing idiot! He VOLUNTEERED for the Army, but ran off when the heat was on?!?!?!

mattnwnc03
08-04-2004, 03:51 PM
You could almost understand a conscript buggering off, but a VOLUNTEER?! What a f*** idiot! He VOLUNTEERED for the Army, but ran off when the heat was on?!?!?!theres alot of that , you just never hear about it till theres a war. we had a couple of guys who sat down on us before the first gulf war.one of them was a jordanian so he had a pretty good excuse , but the other he turned yellow

king_nothing100
08-04-2004, 03:57 PM
LOL he was only a cook, hardly going to be in the **** blasting people left, right, and centre, he would have been at base camp majority of the time cooking egg banjo's and beans.

Milkman
08-04-2004, 09:10 PM
Running away from duty in a volunteer military? These bastards bring nothing but disgrace to themselves and their families!