Official NHL Thread

[Seraphim]

Dammit, I slept in this morning!

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/photos/hockey_cp_5328780.jpg
Canada's Nigel Dawes beats U.S. goalie Al Montoya during the first period (CP photo)


HELSINKI - Canada won the silver medal at the world junior hockey championship Monday, losing the gold medal game 4-3 to the United States.


The winning goal came after Canadian goalkeeper Marc-Andre Fleury deflected the puck, which bounced off Canadian defenceman Braydon Coburn and into the net.

Canada had been up 3-1 after two periods, but the U.S. scored three unanswered goals in the third.

The win is the first gold for the U.S. at the world juniors and the third straight silver for Canada.

Nigel Dawes scored twice for Canada, while Anthony Stewart had one goal.


Canada's Nigel Dawes beats U.S. goalie Al Montoya during the first period (CP photo)

Patrick O'Sullivan netted two for the U.S., while teammates Dan Fritshe and Ryan Kesler added one goal each.

Canada's last gold medal was in 1997 when they defeated the U.S. 2-0 in Geneva.

Earlier in the day, Finland won the bronze medal with a 2-1 win over the Czech Republic.

[EvanL]

Moderator Please delete this thread.
Whatever we still have world gold. And it was a good tournament.
The thing most people dont realize is that the american juniors, alot of them are actually children of Canadian ex-NHL players.
We still own it. Its only kids. ;)

[Ratamacue]

Uh, why does the thread need to be deleted?

[Seraphim]

Because he cant stand it when Americans beat Canadians in hockey.

[Midtown]

it's not our fault we are awesome.
If canada is so great in hockey, how come you have lost 2 of the teams from bigger cities (Winnipeg/Quebec) and why does america have such a bigger audiance compared to canada. Wait wait, and why do we have so many damn teams in the US? We are every bit as good at hockey as you are. Deal with it.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Hahaha we still own you guys. Check the records though we still have won more gold in hockey then in anything else.

[Midtown]

Stop livin in the past.

/play micheal jackson song

[Jack Mehoff]

wow, excuses and more excuses. I was a wrestler in high school and i never made excuses or feel sorry for myself when i lost a match. Instead i work harder next time to kick the other guy ass.

You all heard what they say about people who are making excuses :roll:

[Midtown]

no ****s?

[EvanL]

The fact is that the U.S. has more money and a bigger population. And i know for a fact there is a bigger viewing audience in Canada than in the states for hockey. If you break it down like this, the U.S., Swedes, Finns, Czechz, Russians and to a lesser extent the Slovaks, can all create one team full of all star players, while at the same time canada can create 3.
Im not annoyed that the americans won the gold. In fact i think its good. Not as good as if Canada won though ;), but good for the fact that the sport should become more popular now in the states.

[Jack Mehoff]

no ****s?



more like: "awwwwww!!! my vulva hurts"

That's my favoriate mock everytime someone dropped out of a platoon run

[Jack Mehoff]

The fact is that the U.S. has more money and a bigger population. And i know for a fact there is a bigger viewing audience in Canada than in the states for hockey. If you break it down like this, the U.S., Swedes, Finns, Czechz, Russians and to a lesser extent the Slovaks, can all create one team full of all star players, while at the same time canada can create 3.
Im not annoyed that the americans won the gold. In fact i think its good. Not as good as if Canada won though ;), but good for the fact that the sport should become more popular now in the states.

And how many Americans spend more time playing and watching hockey instead of football, basketball and baseball?

[EvanL]

The fact is that the U.S. has more money and a bigger population. And i know for a fact there is a bigger viewing audience in Canada than in the states for hockey. If you break it down like this, the U.S., Swedes, Finns, Czechz, Russians and to a lesser extent the Slovaks, can all create one team full of all star players, while at the same time canada can create 3.
Im not annoyed that the americans won the gold. In fact i think its good. Not as good as if Canada won though ;), but good for the fact that the sport should become more popular now in the states.

And how many Americans spend more time playing and watching hockey instead of football, basketball and baseball?
Playing not many. Watching.........a good amount.

[Jack Mehoff]

And watching hockey produces future potential pro hockey players? rofl

[EvanL]

And watching hockey produces future potential pro hockey players? rofl
No it doesnt. The majority of americans that watch hockey arent people looking to play. You ever been to an NHL game in the states? Ill tell you what, the majority of the fans dont know squat about hockey and are about 60lbs overweight a piece. The only places in the states where hockey is any good is Minnessota, Montana, and to a lesser extent Vermont and Massachusettes.

[Jack Mehoff]

Nah man, sound like someone is making excuses because they lost. People with real sportsmanship don't make excuses

[EvanL]

Nah man, sound like someone is making excuses because they lost. People with real sportsmanship don't make excuses
How was i making excuses for why we lost? I was merely showing how Canadians are supperior to Americans in hockey :D

[Midtown]

Maybe if Hockey meant buttsex.

[Vance]

The fact is that the U.S. has more money and a bigger population.
But, you plainly said that Canada owns the Americans at hockey all the time - so this should be no excuse, right? Or is so that you make excuses like this only when you lose? C'mon, be a man and take a loss.

PS - I don't really like hockey anyways, so it doesn't matter to me...

[Midtown]

VANCE LOVES HOCKEY!

[Vance]

VANCE LOVES HOCKEY!
If hockey means ***.

[Midtown]

no, buttsex, we already went over this.

[Jack Mehoff]

buttsex is good

[Midtown]

Man if I could get my gf to let me buttsex her, I'd get a fricken gold medal.

[Jack Mehoff]

diamond is very persuasive

[EvanL]

Anyways if i was to make an excuse it would be a logical one. The only reason you guys one is cus our goalie cleared the puck and it hit our defencemens skate and bounced back in.
there i said it. its out in the open.
;)

[Midtown]

dumbass shoulda gotten out of the way

[spectre5]

Just out of curiosity how many GOOD nhl players actually come from america, not europe or canada? :D

t.
Antti Korpela

[Midtown]

I think a better question would be "Why do all the talented players in the world, come TO america..."

[Jack Mehoff]

I think a better question would be "Why do all the talented players in the world, come TO america..."

land of opportunity

[Midtown]

Exactly.

[EvanL]

I think a better question would be "Why do all the talented players in the world, come TO america..."
I guess ignorance is bless am i correct?
America or to be exact, The United States of America, has some very good players. They dont have many, but the players that make it tend to be very good. i.e. Leech and Roenick.
The players dont move to the United States, they play for teams with clubs in the U.S. some even owned by Canadians, i.e. Phoenix Coyotes.
If they were paid to play for a team in Mexico they would go the same as they do to the states.

[Ratamacue]

Yeah, the reason players come from around the world to play in the NHL is because the NHL is probably the biggest and best-paying hockey league in the world.

[Midtown]

and the majority of these teams are located where?

oh snap.

[Trigger]

What's hockey?

[Midtown]

VANCE LOVES HOCKEY!
If hockey means ***.

So far its a throw up betwen ***, and buttsex. We arent sure yet.

[Trigger]

Hockey is when you throw up between ***?

[Midtown]

YES

[Skaman]

I think a better question would be "Why do all the talented players in the world, come TO america..."


$$$$$ :roll:

Anyone can 'buy' a good team, where as Canada can make a good team the old fashioned way.

Raise your kids on hockey, grow up with hockey, play hockey. It runs thick in a Canucks blood. Its all about the Olympics, we all remember who won the gold in 2002 right? RIGHT?

Men and women’s hockey alike will always be dominated by Canada .

[EvanL]

I think a better question would be "Why do all the talented players in the world, come TO america..."


$$$$$ :roll:

Anyone can 'buy' a good team, where as Canada can make a good team the old fashioned way.

Raise your kids on hockey, grow up with hockey, play hockey. It runs thick in a Canucks blood. Its all about the Olympics, we all remember who won the gold in 2002 right? RIGHT?

Men and women’s hockey alike will always be dominated by Canada .
Damn straight
http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/hockey1.jpg

[Operation Ivy]

Well we beat the Russians in 1980 woot

[pAt]

lol Canadians make of most of the NHL

[Midtown]

I would say the euro's make just as much as the can heads.

[Midtown]

I think a better question would be "Why do all the talented players in the world, come TO america..."


$$$$$ :roll:

Anyone can 'buy' a good team, where as Canada can make a good team the old fashioned way.

Raise your kids on hockey, grow up with hockey, play hockey. It runs thick in a Canucks blood. Its all about the Olympics, we all remember who won the gold in 2002 right? RIGHT?

Men and women’s hockey alike will always be dominated by Canada .

Yeah except the part where you guys have just as many players in the NHL that are american/european as the US teams do. And our "kids raised on hockey" came from behind and beat yours today. **** 'n deal.


PLUS - its been over 10 years since a canadian team has won the cup...
(1992-93 Montreal Canadiens) what other excuses can you guys come up with.

[Midtown]

Oh I almost forgot how awesome the Canucks did against the Wild Last year in playoffs...Dont even try to bull**** hockey with me, I've been playing since I was 5, and still play at least twice a week. I dont give a damn what your heritage is. We are every bit as good as you.

[EvanL]

Oh I almost forgot how awesome the Canucks did against the Wild Last year in playoffs...Dont even try to bull**** hockey with me, I've been playing since I was 5, and still play at least twice a week. I dont give a damn what your heritage is. We are every bit as good as you.
well i guess we got told by the all so mighty midtown. The twin of alfred e. newman.
Your a total **** man. Your trying to make it look like hockey is a great american past time. Your so full of ****. Wow the cup hasnt been won by a canadian team in 10 years. Who wins the cup for you guys? The players do and most of them just happen to be..............CANADIAN!
And where do you think the cup stays all the time?
In Canada! In the Hockey hall of fame! IN hockey town! (toronto not detroit like you yanks like to think for some reason). If you were really into hockey as much as you say you are, you wouldnt be arguing about Canadians being the best! Its a true fact. We hardly ever boast about anything but how we are the best in hockey and we have awesome beer! What else do we have to claim to fame?
Go preach to us about ****ing baseball, not hockey. Its our sport and i hope you have fun playing it. Just pray that someday you dont meet someone on the ice like me cus you ll get the ****ing teeth knocked out of you for this type of talk.

[Operation Ivy]

Evan you seem very mad today, it just a game :hug:

[EvanL]

Evan you seem very mad today, it just a game :hug:
Im not mad at everyone just midtown.
Its just a game but its something very close to us as Canadians. Like beer or maple syrup, or oppressing the french.

[Skaman]

Evan you seem very mad today, it just a game :hug:
Im not mad at everyone just midtown.
Its just a game but its something very close to us as Canadians. Like beer or maple syrup, or oppressing the french.

Dont forget figure skating, Celine Dion and Avril Lavingne! :lol:

-thought I would poke a little fun.....

[EvanL]

Evan you seem very mad today, it just a game :hug:
Im not mad at everyone just midtown.
Its just a game but its something very close to us as Canadians. Like beer or maple syrup, or oppressing the french.

Dont forget figure skating, Celine Dion and Avril Lavingne! :lol:

-thought I would poke a little fun.....
Dont forget keanu reeves

[Salty Dog]

"why couldn't you have said celine dion? our one chance to put that show boatin canadian behind bars, and you blow it!"

[EvanL]

"why couldn't you have said celine dion? our one chance to put that show boatin canadian behind bars, and you blow it!"
Yes! Family guy reference!
Thats about the 15th for the day.
Me and my friends always use family guy references.

[Salty Dog]

"why couldn't you have said celine dion? our one chance to put that show boatin canadian behind bars, and you blow it!"
Yes! Family guy reference!
Thats about the 15th for the day.
Me and my friends always use family guy references.

"you've just broken out of this maximum security prison, what are you going to do now?"
"i'm gonna go home and bang my girlfriend....and then i'm gonna kill chris griffin!"
"good lord, can you really say "bang my girlfriend" on tv?"

[EvanL]

"why couldn't you have said celine dion? our one chance to put that show boatin canadian behind bars, and you blow it!"
Yes! Family guy reference!
Thats about the 15th for the day.
Me and my friends always use family guy references.

"you've just broken out of this maximum security prison, what are you going to do now?"
"i'm gonna go home and bang my girlfriend....and then i'm gonna kill chris griffin!"
"good lord, can you really say "bang my girlfriend" on tv?"
Come on lois thats not exploitation. Those videos my cousin eddy made now thats exploitation.
From the guys who brought you caddy black and black kramer and kramer comes a new movie. Black to the future!!

[Salty Dog]

rofl

"ohhh....ohhhh god!!!!!! it's everywhere.....it's in my raccoon wounds!"

[Midtown]

I didnt know optimus prime was jewwish

[Marxist203]

Moderator Please delete this thread.
Whatever we still have world gold. And it was a good tournament.
The thing most people dont realize is that the american juniors, alot of them are actually children of Canadian ex-NHL players.
We still own it. Its only kids. ;)

So the Canadian government can go about eliminating all evidence of our defeat...Wayne Gretzky would be spinning in his grave if he saw this!(I know he's not dead)

[Marxist203]

I think a better question would be "Why do all the talented players in the world, come TO america..."


$$$$$ :roll:

Anyone can 'buy' a good team, where as Canada can make a good team the old fashioned way.

Raise your kids on hockey, grow up with hockey, play hockey. It runs thick in a Canucks blood. Its all about the Olympics, we all remember who won the gold in 2002 right? RIGHT?

Men and women’s hockey alike will always be dominated by Canada .

Yeah except the part where you guys have just as many players in the NHL that are american/european as the US teams do. And our "kids raised on hockey" came from behind and beat yours today. f*** 'n deal.


PLUS - its been over 10 years since a canadian team has won the cup...
(1992-93 Montreal Canadiens) what other excuses can you guys come up with.

The Canucks have 9 Scandinavian players and no Americans(as far as a I know) and are also the highest ranking team in the league :lol: .

[Jack Mehoff]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/hockey1.jpg

[Brandon]

Im glad I finally found this breakdown of the nationality of NHL players as of the 2002-2003 season. Now pay attention people, this is not complicated.

From http://www.wch2004.com/country_breakdown.html

Percentage of Canadian players in the NHL: 53.6%
Percentage of American players in the NHL: 13.0%
Percentage of Czech Republic players in the NHL: 8.2%
Percentage of Finnish players in the NHL: 5.0%
Percentage of German players in the NHL: 0.7%
Percentage of Russian players in the NHL: 6.9%
Percentage of Slovakian players in the NHL: 2.9%
Percentage of Swedish players in the NHL: 6.2%
The rest of the 4%, give or take, come from other countries.

We dont have much to brag about. But our hockey players and our love for the game is unmatched anywhere in the world. Its not just a game, its a way of life. Who else took the afternoon off to watch the game, and felt just as bad as the players in that room. They felt sick to their stomach after the loss, and so did we.

The game was as disappointing a loss as they come. The Americans played a good game, and I would much rather lose to them then the Russians. Nice to see the North American style dominating the europeans.

[Hydro]

"why couldn't you have said celine dion? our one chance to put that show boatin canadian behind bars, and you blow it!"
Yes! Family guy reference!
Thats about the 15th for the day.
Me and my friends always use family guy references.

"you've just broken out of this maximum security prison, what are you going to do now?"
"i'm gonna go home and bang my girlfriend....and then i'm gonna kill chris griffin!"
"good lord, can you really say "bang my girlfriend" on tv?"
Come on lois thats not exploitation. Those videos my cousin eddy made now thats exploitation.
From the guys who brought you caddy black and black kramer and kramer comes a new movie. Black to the future!!


Wow, fellow Family Guy fans! The show kicks arse so hard...as Peter would say:

"Aaaah....it's...everywhere....ugh....it's...in my racoon wounds!"

[Midtown]

It's even better when your stoned, that show was made for pot heads, It's too damn bad I quit smoking.

[Brandon]

I dont give a damn what your heritage is. We are every bit as good as you.

No response from you smart ass american hockey fans to the figures shown above? I though you guys were as good hockey players as we were? Why is only 13% of the NHL american? And I think they rounded that figure up to.

[Seraphim]

No response from you smart ass american hockey fans to the figures shown above? I though you guys were as good hockey players as we were? Why is only 13% of the NHL american? And I think they rounded that figure up to.


Hmmm maybe because "Americans" are not as interested in hockey as the people in Canada. Throw in baseball and football.....your an idiot.

[memphiz]

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/photos/hockey_cp_5328780.jpg
Canada's Nigel Dawes beats U.S. goalie Al Montoya during the first period (CP photo)

Nigel Dawes- he plays for the WHL team where i live

[papasmerf]

EvanLloyed if Canadians were so superior over Americans in hockey then your team wouldn't lose a Championship by a 4-3 score. So, why are you arguing because you guys got bitch slapped?I just put you on my "biggest moron" list for saying the only reason we won was because your goalie cleared the puck and it bounced off your defensman's skate, so there. I forgot the other 3 goals for the Americans happened to be scored the same way, sike! No one here is trying to change the fact that Canada won more gold in hockey then everyone else, and that you make up the majority of NHL. But you saying you're so much better then us after you just lost a Championship is gay. You're bragging about Canada being thebest of the best, so guess what, the best of the best don't take second place in a game and that's exactly what you guys did, 2nd place. In a war, winners kill losers get killed, and this time Canadians got killed, we're number one, we are the best now despite your past achievements, so suck it up.




I dont give a damn what your heritage is. We are every bit as good as you.

No response from you smart ass american hockey fans to the figures shown above? I though you guys were as good hockey players as we were? Why is only 13% of the NHL american? And I think they rounded that figure up to.

We're not as good as you are, we're better, 4-3 score in a Championship proves it. p-)

PS

Watch the Canadians' blood boil now rofl

[memphiz]

@ papasmerf
it was junior hockey,so it doesnt really matter. Team Canada kicked the USA's ass in the olympics in mens and womans hockey. so there

[Deuterium]

And watching hockey produces future potential pro hockey players? rofl
No it doesnt. The majority of americans that watch hockey arent people looking to play. You ever been to an NHL game in the states? Ill tell you what, the majority of the fans dont know squat about hockey and are about 60lbs overweight a piece. The only places in the states where hockey is any good is Minnessota, Montana, and to a lesser extent Vermont and Massachusettes.

I don't know about all that. When I watch an away game in the great white north I sure don't see the stands full of skinny or in-shape Canadians. You guys have the same problem we do.

[papasmerf]

@ papasmerf
it was junior hockey,so it doesnt really matter. Team Canada kicked the USA's ass in the olympics in mens and womans hockey. so there


Exactly dude, it doesn't matter, so why are you Canadians making excuses? Oh wait, because if Canada won, it would matter.

[BlackFlag]

Well, it's almost preseason time, and a lot of free agent signings are going on, so I figured we could get the ball rolling early on a Hockey thread for this year.



Red Wings sign Bertuzzi to one year deal.

The Red Wings made another addition to its roster on Tuesday afternoon with the signing of forward Todd Bertuzzi to a reported one-year deal worth $1.5-million. The signing puts Detroit over the salary cap heading into next season but the club is expected to get cap relief in the form of Andreas Lilja, who will likely start the season on long-term IR (post-concussion syndrome.) Bertuzzi joins Patrick Eaves and Jason Williams as Red Wing free agent signees. Bertuzzi had 15 goals and 44 points in 66 games with the Calgary Flames last season.

I didn't like him the first time around, and I doubt I will this time. He used to be a goon that could put up numbers, now he's just a goon.

[nullterm]

Oilers replace MacT with Quinn + Renney (FINALLY!). Otherwise pretty much the same team other than swapping Khabi for Roli. Will be interesting to see how the team performs under a new coach regime after last season's fall apart.

[Alpheus]

Flames replace Keenan with B. Sutter (FINALLY!). Otherwise pretty much the same team other than swapping Bouwmeester for Aucoin. Will be interesting to see how the team performs under a new coach regime after last season's fall apart.

[orange]

Ah, the Hockey season is beginning. A clear sign of the upcoming winter. Me like!

[Johnny_H02]

I miss the Hockey that I worshipped as a kid :(.

Flyers/Oilers '87 finals highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKU9zeAUGZY

Montreal Canadiens 1993 Road to the Cup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EkEQk-z0eU

[nullterm]

Flames replace Keenan with B. Sutter (FINALLY!).

That makes me chuckle. Sutter is a good coach, don't get me wrong. But there's now a Sutter at every level of the Flames organization.

Darryl - GM
Brent - Coach
Duane - Director of Player Personnel
Ron - Scout
Brett - Rookie Player

"Hey Timmy, welcome to the NHL. I'm Darryl, I'll be your GM. This is my brother, Brent, who will be your coach. Ron, my other brother, said some great things about ya from watching you in the minors. My other brother, Duane, agreed with the choice to draft you so here you are. You'll be playing on the same line as my son, Brett."

[Alpheus]

Awww, you're just jealous. :-)

[nullterm]

Awww, you're just jealous. :-)

Quinn + Renney... nope. :)

[Podman]

That makes me chuckle. Sutter is a good coach, don't get me wrong. But there's now a Sutter at every level of the Flames organization.

Darryl - GM
Brent - Coach
Duane - Director of Player Personnel
Ron - Scout
Brett - Rookie Player

"Hey Timmy, welcome to the NHL. I'm Darryl, I'll be your GM. This is my brother, Brent, who will be your coach. Ron, my other brother, said some great things about ya from watching you in the minors. My other brother, Duane, agreed with the choice to draft you so here you are. You'll be playing on the same line as my son, Brett."

LOL, but this comment from Darryl makes me chuckle even more:

"I'm the GM, Brent's the head coach and this is the coaching staff," he said. "They were the very best people available. It didn't really matter what their last name was."

Umm, right...

That said, I hope it works for Calgary. The Sutters are a great hockey family.

[nullterm]

Good Alberta boy. I love his sense of humour.

[nullterm]

Heatley to address the media tomorrow on his tantrum. Hopefully shoes are thrown.

[Alpheus]

Sweet. I predict riots in Edmonton before the night is out. :)

[nullterm]

Given the chance to quell the angry mobs, he ended up fanning the flames. Woulda been better had he said nothing.

As much as Oil fans don't like the guy for the snub, Sens fans sound like they wish ill will upon ole Dany boy. If things continue as is, I may have to watch the first Ottawa home game.

[Alpheus]

In an unexpected move Tuesday, the NHL filed its own bid in U.S. bankruptcy court to purchase the Phoenix Coyotes in an effort to keep the franchise in Arizona.
The bid comes one day after Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie set a Sept. 14 deadline to buy the bankrupt franchise for $212.5 million US and immediately move it to Hamilton, Ont., with or without the league's consent.
"Today, the league filed its own bid to purchase the Phoenix Coyotes' franchise out of bankruptcy in an effort to maximize the likelihood that the club ultimately will be sold to an acceptable purchaser who is committed to operating the franchise in Glendale," deputy commissioner Bill Daly said in a statement.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2009/08/25/sp-nhl-coyotes-purchase.html?ref=rss

**** Bettman. Useless **** he is.

[boone]

There is no franchise in Glendale. There never was. Just a team losing money despite it's best efforts and the efforts of some pretty decent hockey people.
Bettman just will NOT lose face here.

[Operation Ivy]

Let's go caps, if varlamov and the D can improve they got a chance. Love the pick up of knuble from the flyers, i like our chances this year.

[nullterm]

**** Bettman. Useless **** he is.


Bettman just will NOT lose face here.

No matter how many hundreds of millions it costs.

Best game in the world. Best league for the game. But the business end is a nickle away from being a snake oil retailer.

[Podman]

No matter how many hundreds of millions it costs.

Best game in the world. Best league for the game. But the business end is a nickle away from being a snake oil retailer.

Agreed Nullterm. My non-hockey fan buddies simply can't figure out how a sport with such speed, skill, hard hitting, even fighting, struggles year in and year out. It's total incompetence.

[nullterm]

Agreed Nullterm. My non-hockey fan buddies simply can't figure out how a sport with such speed, skill, hard hitting, even fighting, struggles year in and year out. It's total incompetence.

It's the league that tries too hard. It's trying to sell itself to a population that just can't relate to the sport. Much like the NBA here in Vancouver, there's some fans that support the team, but not enough consistent fans to make it a viable business.

[Soldat_Américain]

Maybe the Ducks won't back into the playoffs this year. Freakin' A man...I hate anything Pittsburg so I was rooting for the 'Wings and they disappointed.

[nullterm]

Mike Comrie rumoured to sign with the Oilers. What a baffling off season, but then it wouldn't be the Oilers without one.

I guess Heatley will take over Comrie's position in the Edmonton booo list.

[nullterm]

We gotta setup the pool again this year. The season approaches.

[BlackFlag]

Tanguay to Tampa.

[orange]

Tampas line-up is looking pretty strong this year. I'm wondering how Hedman will do "over there". Small rink, faster plays, etc. It'll be interesting to watch.

[vinny_121_ND]

I can't wait to see how the Leafs do. Burke remodelled them to be a very very physical team.

[nullterm]

Mike Comrie is an Oiler again. The apocalypse is here. Whatever will the boo birds do?

[Alpheus]

Big day in a courtroom in Phoenix. Down to just the NHL versus Balsillie.

[vinny_121_ND]

Mike Comrie is heading back to the oilers? Never expected that. 1 year deal.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AuSaKjRdo.A9C6fxBwfme7F7vLYF?slug=ap-oilers-comrie&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Karaahmetoglu]

I bought the Oilers Authentic 3rd jersey right after Mike Comrie left for $30 (usually valued at above $150+), the reason why I got it that cheap was because his name was on the back. Now that jersey can finally leave the closet my $30 investment paid off.

[nullterm]

Mike Comrie is heading back to the oilers? Never expected that. 1 year deal.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AuSaKjRdo.A9C6fxBwfme7F7vLYF?slug=ap-oilers-comrie&prov=ap&type=lgns

There's alot of people in Edmonton scratching their heads right now. The general consensus is that it was one of the seven seals has been broken.

$1.125 mil for a guy that could get 20-30 goals. F'n A!

And if it helps smooth over the organization's image to other players then all the better.

Though with the number of small skilled forwards, there's alot of rumblings that a trade must be on the way.

[Alpheus]

Flames give Theo Fleury a tryout at camp. Fun stuff!

[Podman]

Flames give Theo Fleury a tryout at camp. Fun stuff!


Fun stuff for the crack dealers and hookers too! p-)

Joking of course. He seems to have cleaned himself up and that was no small task, but one still has to wonder what he's thinking.

[vinny_121_ND]

the suspense of Heatley is driving me nuts. Stoll, Frolov to Ottawa, Marleau to the kings, sharks get heatley.

[nullterm]

Yeah, read the rumours. I'm hoping it happens. Cause if Edmonton gives up Cogliano, Smid, Penner for that d-bag I'm gonna puke.

[Alpheus]

Yeah, read the rumours. I'm hoping it happens. Cause if Edmonton gives up Cogliano, Smid, Penner for that d-bag I'm gonna celebrate like it's 1999!!!!!.

Fixed. p-)

[nullterm]

Fixed. p-)

Broken.

Sounds like Heatley is gone to San Jose for Michaelik, Cheechoo, 2nd rounder. Cry baby gets what he wants.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=290808

*whew*

[Alpheus]

HAHAHA, SJ has only 20 players signed and less then $1mill cap space. HAHAHAHAHA!!! rofl

[vinny_121_ND]

I'm happy with that deal. We can't have heatley crying about not being on the top line already filled with alfie, spezza, and kovalev. Cheechoo and milan make up the second line.

I can finally breathe and look ahead and can't wait to boo heatley when he comes back to ottawa, once this year.

[nullterm]

I'm happy with that deal. We can't have heatley crying about not being on the top line already filled with alfie, spezza, and kovalev. Cheechoo and milan make up the second line.

I can finally breathe and look ahead and can't wait to boo heatley when he comes back to ottawa, once this year.

The Sharks won't be visiting Ottawa this season.

But don't worry, Edmonton has your back. :hug:

[vinny_121_ND]

The Sharks won't be visiting Ottawa this season.

But don't worry, Edmonton has your back. :hug:

I just realized that, that sucks, but we ottawa fans have a good memory. We always remembered Yashin ... traitor. Well, I have full faith the edmonton crowd will take good care of it for us.

[boone]

Harper to press Obama on U.S. protectionism

Updated Tue. Sep. 15 2009 9:52 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff

Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he will press the U.S. government on the so-called "Buy American" clause when he visits Washington this week, including a provision that has wreaked havoc on Canadian NHL teams.
Canada's six NHL teams have been scrambling to find alternative travel routes since it was announced that the U.S. Department of Transportation was banning Canadian charter planes from flying between two U.S. cities.
"This is a serious problem," Harper told CTV News Channel's Power Play in an exclusive interview. "This is another protectionist measure . . . and this situation will not be allowed to continue. I've been very clear."
I'm certainly glad that we are focusing on the important issues.

[JRT]

Maybe the Ducks won't back into the playoffs this year. Freakin' A man...I hate anything Pittsburg so I was rooting for the 'Wings and they disappointed.

Ducks are definately going to the playoffs. Interesting to see how well their 2nd line is going to work p-)

[Podman]

I'm having trouble processing this:

"The CBC has revealed the eight teams of figure skaters and ex-hockey heroes that will compete on its upcoming series "Battle of the Blades," an elimination-style contest that pits unconventional duos against each other in weekly routines.

The pairings include Shae-Lynn Bourne with Claude Lemieux, Jamie Sale with Craig Simpson, and Barb Underhill with Ron Duguay. Other teams include Isabelle Brasseur with Glenn Anderson, Christine (Tuffy) Hough-Sweeney with Tie Domi, and Kristina Lenko with Bob Probert."

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/27906-ExNHLers-don-tights-for-Battle-of-the-Blades-ice-dancing-contest-on-CBCTV.html

Duguay I can see. But Probert? Domi?

[Alpheus]

^^^ CBC hits rock bottom and keeps digging.

[Alpheus]

Fleury scores the game-winner in a shootout, 5-4 Flames.

Phaneuf absolutely destroys Okposo with an open ice hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-XEMlMRP-M

Heard on the radio that he'll be okay.

[nullterm]

Last year was pretty fun and the season is just about here with a week to go.

I can organize the league this time around as no one has grabbed the reins.

Same deal as last year using Yahoo. Draft on Saturday or there about, depending on what works best for most people.


http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/

To join up...
http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/register/joinprivateleague_league_select?.scrumb=
League ID: 189724
Password: blooddiamond


Who's in?


nullterm - nullterminators
shiftypowpow - The Pylons
boone - Turtles
orange -orange sweden


Roster?


2 Centers
2 Left Wing
2 Right Wing
2 Defence
2 Goalies
4 Bench
2 IR slots


Scoring?


Goal = 1 pt
Assist = 1 pt
PIM = 1 pt per 5 minutes
Goalie Win = 1 pt
Goalie Shutout = 1 pt




Mods - please keep this thread separate from the main NHL thread until things are underway.

[shiftypowpow]

Giddy-Up I'm in

[boone]

sounds good.....

[goat89]

Wait, wats this about? I am with the 'Nucks. Maples can BURN. :D

[nullterm]

Wait, wats this about? I am with the 'Nucks. Maples can BURN. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_pool

[nullterm]

Pool time bitches.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4427778

[orange]

As long as somebody explains or can provide a link to a more in-depth description to how this is supposed to go down, I'm game.

What software is used etc.?

[nullterm]

As long as somebody explains or can provide a link to a more in-depth description to how this is supposed to go down, I'm game.

What software is used etc.?

It's all on the web using Yahoo's hockey pool.

http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/

Everyone picks players in the draft to score points. Those players earn you points by scoring goals, assists, penalty minutes, etc. Goalies by wins and shutouts.

Last season it was (I think) 2 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 2 D, 2 G, plus 4 guys in reserve and 1 or 2 on the IR.

You can trade players and also waive & sign free agents.

Exact rules will be discussed briefly, but I think last years we can use as a starting point.

Goal = 1 pt
Assist = 1 pt
PIM = 1 pt per 5 minutes

Goalie Win = 1 pt
Goalie Shutout = 1 pt

2 Centers
2 Left Wing
2 Right Wing
2 Defence
2 Goalies
4 Bench
2 IR slots

[orange]

Sounds sweet. I'm in.

[boone]

^^ I think last years rules were perfectly fine.
It was fun in a ramshackle, free-wheeling "boone is a giant loser" Kind of way.

[nullterm]

^^ I think last years rules were perfectly fine.
It was fun in a ramshackle, free-wheeling "boone is a giant loser" Kind of way.

I knew you were in for a long season when you picked Tootoo.

[boone]

Ha! Expect more of the same from my team!

[nullterm]

http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/mpnet

League is setup. Password: blooddiamond

Playing with the commish options, what do people think about adding 1 pt for a Game Winning Goal?

[orange]

I get this when clicking the link:

"You are not allowed to view this page because you are not in this league. (Error #152)"

And when searching for the league it says that I need the ID# for the league. Just searching for mpnet doesn't work.

[shiftypowpow]

http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/register/joinprivateleague_league_select?.scrumb=

League ID# 189724

[orange]

Thanks Shifty.

[goat89]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_pool
Thx null... but not this year I think... will be by the sidelines watching it. Gotta learn. ><

[shiftypowpow]

Thx null... but not this year I think... will be by the sidelines watching it. Gotta learn. ><


Learn by doing. It's not like you get kicked in the nuts if you lose

[orange]

Thx null... but not this year I think... will be by the sidelines watching it. Gotta learn. ><
I don't have a clue of what I'm supposed to do here but it'll be fun anyway. I'm trying to set up my pre-draft as I write this. :)

Join in now, goat!

[nullterm]

http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/register/joinprivateleague_league_select?.scrumb=

League ID# 189724

Thanks. Updated the main post.

If you sign up, post here so we know who's who.

[shiftypowpow]

Goooo pylons!

[orange]

Team name - "orange sweden"

I'm trying to set up the pre-draft now following the list you made, nullterm, but I don't get one thing, - 2 IR slots. What's that?

[Alpheus]

Team name - "orange sweden"

I'm trying to set up the pre-draft now following the list you made, nullterm, but I don't get one thing, - 2 IR. What's that?

IR = Injured Reserve. You can place 2 players on IR and you can replace them in your lineup so you still get some points, and you get to keep the injured players until they play again.

[nullterm]

Team name - "orange sweden"

I'm trying to set up the pre-draft now following the list you made, nullterm, but I don't get one thing, - 2 IR. What's that?

If a player is hurt and placed on the Injured Reserve, it means you can put him in your IR spot so he's not taking up a Bench or normal slot. And then pick up another player to fill in until he's better.

So if you get Gaborik who (as usual) is out for 4 months with a bum hip, you place him on IR so you still have him, and scoop up a free agent if you like. Then when Gaby is healthy, waive a player to make room for his return.

Also, note that if you have a guy on your Bench, he won't actually score any points for you. You'll need to move him from the Bench to an appropriate roster space (like C, LW, etc) for his stats to count.

You also have a limit of 82 games per slot that can be played. So use them wisely.

Hopefully we get more guys. Where's everyone from last year's pool?

[orange]

clarification
Thanks alot nullterm. I think I get the important parts of it now.

[nullterm]

Where the heck is everyone from last season?

[Alpheus]

Anyone watching the Flames-Oilers game? The PBP guys are hilarious, I swear if Deadmonton gets one more penalty, they're going to either have a stroke or off themselves.

Ripping the refs for perfectly callable calls, blatant homerism, the works. Not to mention the complete inability to properly ****ounce half the Flames players names.

Oh, and Flames up 4-2. :p

[Alpheus]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=292512

Fleury cut by the Flames? Boooooo-urns. They should've at least given him an AHL contract, if for no other reason then to put fans in the seats in Abbotsford.

[nullterm]

Need more bodies for this season's pool.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=165566

[Podman]

If you guys need bodies I'm in, but I can't do the draft 'til Tuesday or Wednesday...

I'm at a wife's cousin's f***ing wedding.

When's it scheduled for??

[Podman]

Just posted in the pool thread. I'm in if you need people but am not available 'til Tuesday at the very earliest.

When's the draft?

[Seiran]

Ducks are definately going to the playoffs. Interesting to see how well their 2nd line is going to work p-)

I'm with this guy. Ducks ftw this year! With any luck I can catch a home game in October for my birthday this year.

[Podman]

^^^^ Come on guys, let's at least say XYZ Team will make it DEEP into the playoffs this year. Since half the teams make it in, just making the POs isn't a exactly an accomplishment. A team with a few one legged retards can make it into the POs only to get eliminated in the first round.

And I say this as a Ranger fan who missed the POs for a decade from 1997 to 2006 or something. We had expensive guys lacing up that should have been happy collecting social security checks.

[Seiran]

Ducks are gonna spank the competition this year and take the cup back home to the pond!!!

[nullterm]

I want more bodies, so will push the draft back to Tuesday.

[nullterm]

Just posted in the pool thread. I'm in if you need people but am not available 'til Tuesday at the very earliest.

When's the draft?

Moved back to Tuesday in hopes of getting more people.

[vinny_121_ND]

I'm excited. I hope I win again this year.

[BlackFlag]

Count me in.

[BlackFlag]

Hockey Canada’s Yzerman plans to call Gretzky soon

DETROIT (AP)—Hockey Canada executive director and Detroit Red Wings vice president Steve Yzerman plans to call Wayne Gretzky to find out his plans for the future.

Yzerman said in a phone interview Saturday that he has been in contact with Gretzky to talk about his experiences at the Olympics.

Gretzky resigned Thursday as the coach and director of hockey operations for the financially struggling Phoenix Coyotes. He led Hockey Canada during the previous two Olympics.

Yzerman was appointed last year to take over for Gretzky as Canada gears up for a bid to win men’s hockey gold at the 2010 Vancouver Games.

Yzerman has been a Red Wings vice president since retiring three years ago.
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-canada-gretzky&prov=ap&type=lgns

[SoftLion]

Go wings!!

[Alpheus]

Ducks are gonna spank the competition this year and take the cup back home to the pond!!!

Without ****ger or Beauchamin? Keep dreaming yuppie. p-)

[nullterm]

Cool, we're up to six bodies now. Outta make it more fun.

[nullterm]

JF Jacques goes from being an often injured, borderline 4th liner to 1st line in the pre-season next to Horcoff and Hemsky and they look like magic. Very entertaining win vs the Canucks.

[JRT]

Without ****ger or Beauchamin? Keep dreaming yuppie. p-)

Without.

My crystal ball says the Stanley Cup winner comes from the west, and it's going to be either Red Wings, Canucks, Sharks or Ducks. If only I got the dough to fly over there and see Selänne play for the last season.

And Coyotes are going to be dead last.

[vinny_121_ND]

IR = Injured Reserve. You can place 2 players on IR and you can replace them in your lineup so you still get some points, and you get to keep the injured players until they play again.

good idea. I remember I picked up brodeur two weeks before he came back since he was dropped for 3 months.

I'm real excited again for this season.

[BlackFlag]

So, tomorrow's the draft. 6 people so far.

You Canucks ready to lose to an American at your own game?

[nullterm]

7pm Pacific time and the season commences. If anyone else wants in at the last minute, get your ass in gear.

[Podman]

I'm in. We have 7 now.

[orange]

Quick question: Since I am soundly asleep at the draft and going off to work a couple of hours later. Will I miss it all or will it auto-draft for me? I've set up a pre-draft with like 15 names? Is that enough or should I add more? Given that it will auto-draft that is. Otherwise I might have to throw in the towel right now...

[vinny_121_ND]

Quick question: Since I am soundly asleep at the draft and going off to work a couple of hours later. Will I miss it all or will it auto-draft for me? I've set up a pre-draft with like 15 names? Is that enough or should I add more? Given that it will auto-draft that is. Otherwise I might have to throw in the towel right now...

I have about 100 names in the draft, I don't think that's enough.

[orange]

I have about 100 names in the draft, I don't think that's enough.
Point taken. I've set mine up for around 60-70 names now. But will it auto-draft from my list? Otherwise, I'm fvcked.

[nullterm]

It looks like it will draft based on your list, my guess is once your list is used up then it uses Yahoo's draft ranking to fill out your roster.

7 people x 14 roster spots = 98 selections

So you should be fine.

[orange]

It looks like it will draft based on your list, my guess is once your list is used up then it uses Yahoo's draft ranking to fill out your roster.

7 people x 14 roster spots = 98 selections

So you should be fine.
Sweet. Good luck in the draft then guys.

[vinny_121_ND]

Point taken. I've set mine up for around 60-70 names now. But will it auto-draft from my list? Otherwise, I'm fvcked.


Yes it will autodraft. Last mp.net pool we had, which I won, a member couldn't be there, but he had a saved list so it auto drafted everybody he wanted. See you guys tonight.

Vinny

[nullterm]

I'm also in another draft that starts 15 minutes before ours. This should be interesting. Glad I have dual monitors.

[nullterm]

One hour and change to go boys.

[BlackFlag]

Hey, do we randomly get our pick or is it in the order of who joined the league first?

[nullterm]

"The draft order will be randomly determined approximately 30 minutes before the draft begins."

[Podman]

Hey, do we randomly get our pick or is it in the order of who joined the league first?

Since I was last I'm OK w/ that rule...

[BlackFlag]

Sound good guys. see you in the draft room.

[nullterm]

I'm in the draft control panel for my other draft. Sweet!

8th selection, not so sweet.

[nullterm]

30 mikes people.

"Your draft is loading now. A link to enter your draft will appear shortly."

[nullterm]

Go time bitches.

http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/189724/enterdraft

[nullterm]

5 minutes till the show starts, if ya ain't here no bitching about what the computer drafts for you.

[BlackFlag]

Good draft.

Starting at 7th Pick (Last)

My Team (Hockeytown):

Jason Spezza -C
Jonathan Toews - C

Zach Parise - LW
Rick Nash - LW

Johan Franzen - RW
Shane Doan - RW

Sheldon Souray - D
Andrei Markov - D

Martin Brodeur - G
Steve Mason - G

Bench:

Steven Stamkos - C
Phil Kessel - RW
Brian Campbell - D
Cam Barker - D

[nullterm]

C Evgeni Malkin (Pit - C)
C Ryan Getzlaf (Anh - C)

LW Simon Gagne (Phi - LW)
LW Scott Hartnell (Phi - LW)

RW Jarome Iginla (Cgy - RW)
RW Patrick Kane (Chi - RW)

D Shea Weber (Nsh - D)
D Scott Niedermayer (Anh - D)

G Marc-Andre Fleury (Pit - G)
G Ryan Miller (Buf - G)

BN Alexander Frolov (LA - LW)
BN Ales Hemsky (Edm - RW)
BN Derek Roy (Buf - C)
BN Tom Gilbert (Edm - D)

Not bad, but Iggy might be available for trade just based on principal (CGY).

[Alpheus]

Very nice Null, your LWers are both injury ****e though.

You trade Iggy and I'm hacking your account. ;)

Who picked Taveres?

[nullterm]

As long as they score when healthy, otherwise I got Frolov to pick up the slack.

[BlackFlag]

Not bad, but Iggy might be available for trade just based on principal (CGY).

Iginlia for Nash perhaps? p-)

[Podman]

Pod's Rangers:

Henrik Zetterberg (Det - C)
Nicklas Backstrom (Was - C)

Alexander Ovechkin (Was - LW)
Patrick MArleau (SJ - LW)

Corey Perry (Anh - RW)
Marian Hossa (Chi - RW)

Zdeno Chara (Bos - D)
Dan Boyle (SJ - D)

Evgeni Nabokov (SJ - G)
Chris Osgood (Det - G)

Bench:

Mike Richards (Phi - C)
Thomas Vanek (Buf - LW)
Janie Langenbrunner (NJ - RW)
Semyon Varlamov (Was - G)

[nullterm]

Iginlia for Nash perhaps? p-)

You may have yourself a deal there. Lemme ponder.

[BlackFlag]

You may have yourself a deal there. Lemme ponder.

We'll see how the season goes for a bit. I don't like doing trades before the season's underway.

[shiftypowpow]

Pavel Datsyuk (Det - C)
Eric Staal (Car - C)

Michael Cammalleri (Mon - LW)
David Booth (Fla - LW)

Daniel Alfredsson (Ott - RW)
Martin Havlat (Min - RW)

Jay Bouwmeester (Cgy - D)
Chris ****ger (Phi - D)

Cam Ward (Car - G)
Carey Price (Mon - G)

Bench:
Patrik Elias (NJ - C,LW)
Duncan Keith (Chi - D)
Dustin Brown (LA - RW)
Cristobal Huet (Chi - G)

Meh hastily put together autodraft list

[Podman]

Funny, after the mp.net draft last night I came into work with a link to this blog entry in my inbox. The writers are experts in "distressed" industries/companies/franchises etc. which is why they are analyzing the NHL. Here are the first few paragraphs:

"With all of the wailing and howls of protest regarding increased regulation, salary caps and bonus eliminations coming out of certain sectors of the North American economy, it is (perhaps to some) refreshing to see corporate executives in at least one industry marching in total lock step with the US Government’s attempts to fight economic reality. The current debacle in Phoenix regarding the fate of the Coyotes hockey franchise there has opened the window wide on the leadership approach and decision-making style that holds sway in the NHL today.

The mindset appears to be not too dissimilar to the mentality that holds that debt problems can be fixed with more debt, that the Fed can expand credit without limit or ill effect, and the requirement that the consumer sector retrench and shore up its finances can be successfully challenged with “Cash for Clunkers”, outright handouts and other blandishments that will theoretically be paid for not by today’s beneficiaries but by tomorrow’s taxpayers.

Faced with a soft economy, a significant proportion of NHL clubs (not only Phoenix) are in distress; if it is looking ahead at all, the NHL is probably seeing lower attendance figures, lower corporate marketing spend and lower revenues generally. Some of the owners may be looking “over the next rise” in this fashion. Unfortunately and more to the point, the Phoenix debacle however shows that the current NHL leadership has chosen to divert attention from more pressing commercial concerns, to spurn the injection of fresh outside investment capital into its business, and to effectively act in defense of toxic investment decisions that it itself promoted to itself.

That the NHL leadership has chosen to allow this situation to deterorate to the point where it must participate in a courtroom display centering on the efficacy of its business plans has to be counted as a “first” in business history."

It's long, but it's very good. The whole thing is here:

http://www.recoverypartners.biz/blog/2009/09/29/smurfs-on-ice/

[Jobu]

Here come the 'hawks the mighty Blaaaaackhawks....

[orange]

Some of you bastards stole my swedes!! :)

Lineup:

Vincent Lecavalier (TB - C)
Henrik Sedin (Van - C)

Loui Eriksson (Dal - LW)
Milan Michalek (Ott - LW)

Martin St.Louis (TB - RW)
David Backes (StL - RW)

Niklas Kronwall (Det - D)
Nicklas Lidström (Det - D)

Henrik Lundqvist (NYR - G)
Tomas Vokoun (Fla - G)

Bench:

Ray Whitney (Car - LW)
Alexander Edler (Van - D)

I dropped two guys that the autopick chose for me that I didn't want and have two others waiting to take a spot. We'll see how that plays out.

But all in all, I'm pretty pleased. I just need Zetterberg and Alfie to feel totaly content.

[Podman]

Some of you bastards stole my swedes!! :)

Lineup:

Vincent Lecavalier (TB - C)
Henrik Sedin (Van - C)

Loui Eriksson (Dal - LW)
Milan Michalek (Ott - LW)

Martin St.Louis (TB - RW)
David Backes (StL - RW)

Niklas Kronwall (Det - D)
Nicklas Lidström (Det - D)

Henrik Lundqvist (NYR - G)
Tomas Vokoun (Fla - G)

Bench:

Ray Whitney (Car - LW)
Alexander Edler (Van - D)

I dropped two guys that the autopick chose for me that I didn't want and have two others waiting to take a spot. We'll see how that plays out.

But all in all, I'm pretty pleased. I just need Zetterberg and Alfie to feel totaly content.

Building a Swedish team? That explains Henrik as your first pick. He was the only Ranger I really wanted to pick up.

[orange]

Building a Swedish team? That explains Henrik as your first pick. He was the only Ranger I really wanted to pick up.
Yup. That's what I was going for atleast. I wouldn't be able to get a good enough Swedish second goalie but and I did need a few others that weren't Swedes but hey, most of the team is. National pride you know.. :)

I do want your Swedes, Pod. Give 'em to me. :)

[Podman]

Yup. That's what I was going for atleast. I wouldn't be able to get a good enough Swedish second goalie but and I did need a few others that weren't Swedes but hey, most of the team is. National pride you know.. :)

I do want your Swedes, Pod. Give 'em to me. :)


Let's wait 'til the season gets moving and then we can talk trades. :)

[vinny_121_ND]

Games begin tonight! This season will be interesting.

[Podman]

I like how this season's shaping up.

[vinny_121_ND]

I like how this season's shaping up.

... not for me. You got backstrom and ovie. I got thornton and heatley. Want to trade? Then I can complete my ovie, backstrom semin line.

[Podman]

Good one.

Heatley had a great game last night..........

[vinny_121_ND]

I should never have picked heatley. No wonder cory clouston cut his time back from 20 minutes to 17 minutes a game. San Jose might regret this trade.

[Alpheus]

Andrei Markov - D


Sucks to be you, he's out 3-4 months with a torn tendon.

[vinny_121_ND]

Melnyk fires parting shot at Heatley camp, says he felt betrayed


OTTAWA -- Breaking his silence yesterday, Senators owner Eugene Melnyk admitted he felt betrayed by Dany Heatley and is glad the winger is gone.
After demanding a trade in May, Heatley was finally dealt to the San Jose Sharks for Milan Michalek and Jonathan Cheechoo last month.
While Melnyk wants to put the controversy behind the Senators, who open the season tomorrow in New York against the Rangers, he conceded the situation left a "sour taste" in his mouth and would advise anybody against signing players to front-end-loaded, long-term contracts.
After signing Heatley to a six-year, $45-million contract extension in October 2007, and shelling out more than $14 million to him in the last 12 months -- including a $4-million bonus on July 1 -- Melnyk found it disrespectful.
"I spoke directly across the table, with (Heatley) and his agents," said Melnyk. "When you make that type of commitment to a player where you front-end load a contract, you expect, just as a human being, when you shake somebody's hand -- never mind a 130-page contract -- that they will be reciprocal to it.
"That's my biggest disappointment: these people, I mean just as human beings, (shouldn't) do that to anyone.
"Yes, it has left a sour taste, but you've got to forget about that. You turn around, you learn from it and you'll never do it again. I guarantee you, anybody else out there should be aware this can happen to (them) if the other side is not genuine."
Melnyk believes Heatley's actions set a bad precedent for all sports.
"That whole situation sent shivers not only through every GM and owner in the hockey world, but in sports in general," said Melnyk. "This is the worst thing that could happen to a team that wants to progress. He hurt himself. He hurt all his teammates. He hurt the organization.
"I don't necessarily put the blame on him directly, but I think it's the people around him that leaked it out. That's a disaster. It's unconscionable what happened. You have to hand it to Bryan. Working with handcuffs, he was able to pull off a good deal. We made the best out of what was a bad situation. I'm glad it's done, over with and out the door. Wish (him) luck. If there's anything good that came out of this, it's toughened up our team. We have more of a 'we'll show you' attitude and I think they'll come together as a real team now and show their stuff."
Melnyk gave his blessing when Murray told him he was stepping up efforts to move the disgruntled Heatley on the first day of training camp.
"I'm not there, but even if I was there, Bryan, the coach and the players have to live and breathe this every day," said Melnyk. "What we don't need is a distraction of any sort and I don't care how good you are. I don't care if you're a 50-goal scorer. If you've got that kind of person in the dressing room, those 50 goals will be meaningless if it's going to affect all the players. Now, it's a nice, clean start."


http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/2009/10/02/11244031-sun.html

Did Heatley even return the 4 million bonus? If he didn't, I would hate him forever. Melynk shouldn't have even paid him it when he wanted out.

[nullterm]

No. He happily waited through the deadline and the Sens had to pony up $4 million this season without his shadow even darkening the dressing room.

Edmonton had the deal in hand willing to take him before the deadline so they were willing to pay the lump sum for Ottawa. But Heater decided to stick it to both cities. And he finally got his wish to play for the Sharks.

[Podman]

Class Act.

[Podman]

I should never have picked heatley. No wonder cory clouston cut his time back from 20 minutes to 17 minutes a game. San Jose might regret this trade.

Good move with Laich I think.


I got Boyes off of waivers but didn't realize StL v. Det was a day game and didn't put him in for Hossa in time. He's on my bench with a G and an A. Dumb rookie mistake.

[nullterm]

I should never have picked heatley. No wonder cory clouston cut his time back from 20 minutes to 17 minutes a game. San Jose might regret this trade.

It would be the only appropriate outcome. Heatley needing a massive karmic smackdown. Sharks being the mega dominant monster that flops up on the beach dead as soon as the regular season is over.

But still way too early to judge.

Edit - Holy crap, one game in and he's already -3 with 0 pts. Worst +/- of all Sharks.

[vinny_121_ND]

Wow, totally selfish.

[nullterm]

Erik Cole out 4-6 weeks with a leg fracture. Eeeeeesh!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ofjtrWputU

[orange]

Ouch. That hurt MY leg.

[BlackFlag]

Keep your head up.

[nullterm]

After so many years of watching the Oilers play less than exciting hockey under the previous regime that shall not be named, Quinn is the man. Last two games have been shakey, but a hell of alot of fun to watch. Everyone is throwing hits, forechecking, backchecking, skating, passing, scoring. Heck, even lil Sammy Gagner is dropping the mitts.

Pat Quinn, I thank you!

[vinny_121_ND]

looks like heatley thornton are clicking. Podman and I will be competing for first place.

[orange]

This aint going to good for me. Crap!

Who's got Ovie, Bäckström and Semin in their team? I must say: Congrats on the picks! :)

[nullterm]

Who wants Iginla? I want em off my roster after a dirty ass trip on Souray into the corner.

[boone]

When's the draft?

[nullterm]

When's the draft?

Last week.

[boone]

Last week.
It was a joke, you non-humour having mofo.
Events beyond my control.

[vinny_121_ND]

Wow, heatley, thornton just tearing it up.

[BlackFlag]

Murphy's Law!

Half my damn team is injured.

-Markov out for four months.

-Franzen out for four months.

-Souray: concussion.

-Kessel: Out till November.

[nullterm]

Don't remind me about Souray.

I'd like to see Iggy pay the piper next game.

[BlackFlag]

Don't remind me about Souray.

I'd like to see Iggy pay the piper next game.

That had to hurt last week against Calgary. So close to OT.

Other than that, I agree that the Oilers are indeed more exciting to watch this year. They're one of the teams on my short list this year I'd like to go and see the Wings play at the Joe.

[JRT]

The 2nd line of Ducks is indeed starting to warm up.

[vinny_121_ND]

Don't remind me about Souray.

I'd like to see Iggy pay the piper next game.

It happened to quickly for me to say it was a dirty hit. In slo motion, it looks like a dirty hit. Iggy went face first in the boards.

[vinny_121_ND]

Fasel on Bettman: 'He's completely wrong'


International Ice Hockey Federation president Rene Fasel has an answer for Gary Bettman.
In response to the NHL commissioner's comments that 2010 might be the last time NHLers compete at an Olympics, Fasel told Canwest News Services that while he understands the league didn't cash in as expected from its participation in the Winter Games, the Olympics still provide the NHL with a global audience it isn't finding anywhere else.

"He's wrong," Fasel told Canwest on Tuesday. "He's completely wrong. If you want to bring hockey to new people and new sponsors, you have to use the huge stage of the Winter Olympics. For Torino, we had 14 billion TV viewers. When I see the numbers the NHL reaches on TV, you cannot compare.
"It's a great opportunity for the NHL brand. When David Stern decided to bring the NBA to Barcelona [for the 1992 Games] it was huge. Gary was thinking he can do the same thing and he had six, maybe seven very strong teams and a better tournament. Maybe that's what Gary doesn't like, when it's not North America that's winning it's not his product. But he's wrong. For me, he's wrong."

Fasel is hardly the first person in the hockey world to voice an opinion on NHL Olympic participation that differs from Bettman's.
Washington capitals sniper Alexander Ovechkin has said he'll play in the 2014 Games in Sochi, Russia, no matter what.
"It's what I want and what I'm going to do," Ovechkin said recently.
The league's leading goal scorer last year, Ovechkin called for a meeting of NHL players to talk about participating in 2014, and has not backed down on his comments.

Earlier this month Bettman told The Canadian Press it's a different story when the Games aren't in North America, and suggested the Olympics need the NHL more than the NHL needs the Olympics.
"The benefits of going to the Olympics when you're in Salt Lake City or Vancouver, to name two cities, are way different than if you're in Japan, Italy or Russia,'' said Bettman. "I'm not sure that type of exposure warrants or overcomes the difficulties."
But Fasel, who told Canwest the IIHF earns about the same amount of money from the Olympic hockey tournament with our without NHL participation, says the federation is doing its best to promote the sport outside of North America.

"The European market is very important for the NHL," Fasel said. "They have the best European players, but if we want to bring the kids to the sport and develop them, we have to use this European market.
"We're losing players everywhere in the world. We have to bring the young boys and girls to hockey. How can we make the best promotion for the game? It has to be the Olympics.
"We can do something together, for sure. We have to work together with the NHL. But they have to respect us as a partner. The way they're handling us now, taking all the players away, it almost killed the system."

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=17377.html?cid=rsstsn

Bettman should have been fired years ago.

[Alpheus]

Louuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...serrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

76% SV against the Flames. p-)rofl

[nullterm]

Louuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...serrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

76% SV against the Flames. p-)rofl

$10 mil well spent. p-)

I think Kane, Toews, etc. broke both Sundin's and Luongo's souls last season in the playoffs. One retired and the other has never looked the same.

[Podman]

Lotta moves lately Vinny.

I might have to reconsider a few things...

[vinny_121_ND]

Lotta moves lately Vinny.

I might have to reconsider a few things...

I'm so dead in this pool. Heatley is in this slump again, kovalev is asleep as usual, luongo and thomas can't stop a beach ball, savard and gonchar are injured. It's over for me.

[orange]

I'm so dead in this pool. Heatley is in this slump again, kovalev is asleep as usual, luongo and thomas can't stop a beach ball, savard and gonchar are injured. It's over for me.
I'm dead last.



That is all... :-(

[BlackFlag]

Tough game tonight against the Canucks.

Eventually the Wings prevailed. Winning their first road game.

Hope Johnson is alright. That was a really scary crash into the boards.

[Podman]

I'm dead last.



That is all... :-(


We're very early in the season. There could be a Swede revitalization. Stranger things have happened.

[vinny_121_ND]

Ottawa owner's trivial pursuit of Heatley’s $4 million bonus (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Ottawa-owner-s-trivial-pursuit-of-Heatley-rsquo-?urn=nhl,199914)


News is just trickling out now that Ottawa Senators (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/ott/) owner Eugene Melnyk filed a grievance with the NHL against former Senator Dany Heatley (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2415/)(notes) (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2415/news), seeking to reclaim the $4 million signing bonus Heatley snagged (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/ottawa-senators/Senators+file+grievance+against+Heatley/2176884/story.html) after refusing a trade (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Dany-Heatley-speaks-about-bruised-ego-denial-of?urn=nhl,184431) to the Edmonton Oilers (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/edm/) over the summer.

Bruce Garrioch broke the story in the Ottawa Sun (http://www.lfpress.com/sports/hockey/2009/11/03/11613381-sun.html), indicating that Melnyk filed the papers during the summer and that the long-shot tactic could simply be a way to aggravate Heatley after the San Jose Sharks (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/san/) winger handcuffed Ottawa in the offseason with his trade demand.
From the Sun:

Sources say Melnyk contends in the paperwork filed at the NHL's New York headquarters, that Heatley's camp -- including agents J.P. Barry and Stacey McAlpine -- gave the Senators permission to speak with the Oilers and the two-time, 50-goal scorer should have accepted the deal to Edmonton.
It's believed Melnyk not only claims the decision by Heatley to kill the deal cost him $4 million, it also hurt the club's ability to sell season tickets because of the uncertainty in the Senators camp.
More analysis from The 6th Sens. (http://the6thsens.com/2009-articles/november/melnyk-files-grievance-against-heatley.html)
Now, there's obviously some validity to the latter claim ... which is quickly undermined by the fact that the Senators gave Heatley a no-movement clause that put the puck in his end of the rink if he demanded a trade. The entire grievance, in fact, is centered around the contractual conditions the Senators gave Heatley upon his signing an extension: A $4 million bonus on July 1, 2009, and the no-movement clause.
It doesn't matter if Barry and McAlpine gave the Senators permission to speak to the Oilers or the Orlando Rollergators; Ottawa gave Heatley the right to exercise a veto and gave him a bonus to collect as long as he was a Senator -- both of which he did. In fact, the bonus the Senators promised him actually harmed their ability to trade him (http://www.faceoff.com/story.html?id=97b2249e-f42a-47d3-9497-214ec5fa2031).
In the battle of dumb versus selfish, the winner is selfish.
Barring any bombshells lingering off the record, this would appear to be a slam-dunk case for NHLPA lawyers. Provided, of course, that Chelios doesn't scare them all away. (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2009/11/03/sp-chelios-review.html?ref=rss)
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Ottawa-owner-s-trivial-pursuit-of-Heatley-rsquo-;_ylt=At04oqI0Xl03Je7RfTO_4m4JfwM6?urn=nhl,199914

Finally, some good news. Hope Heatley is forced to give back the 4 million he conveniently took from his former club when he bailed on them.

[Alpheus]

Glencross gets 3 games but Richards gets nothing for his hit on Booth? What does Campbell use, a magic-8 ball?

[vinny_121_ND]

Glencross gets 3 games but Richards gets nothing for his hit on Booth? What does Campbell use, a magic-8 ball?

Even on normal play video, Glencross just brushed him. No elbow, no leaving the feet. Richards goes after Booth's head with his shoulder and caught him in a vulnerable position at full speed.

there's a double standard on how suspensions are handed out.

[Jobu]

Even on normal play video, Glencross just brushed him. No elbow, no leaving the feet. Richards goes after Booth's head with his shoulder and caught him in a vulnerable position at full speed.

there's a double standard on how suspensions are handed out.

The GM meetings are today and tomorrow. I expect there will be a new rule for hits to the head.

Concussions are becoming a huge problem for the NHL.

[nullterm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLbFi3P1N7c

Stay classy, Anaheim!

[nullterm]

The GM meetings are today and tomorrow. I expect there will be a new rule for hits to the head.

Concussions are becoming a huge problem for the NHL.

http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/5877949067

"NHL plans on making soft cap shoulder pads mandatory next season. I'll have more on the NHL on TSN after the 1st in the Chi-Cgy game."

I like. If you KO someone with a clean hit, fair enough. But using equipment with the hardness of steel todo it ain't cool. Though now I think my shoulder pads will now be NHL illegal. : /

Neal also got 2 games for this woozy doozy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl4gzfm1rWU

[Jobu]

http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/5877949067

"NHL plans on making soft cap shoulder pads mandatory next season. I'll have more on the NHL on TSN after the 1st in the Chi-Cgy game."

I like. If you KO someone with a clean hit, fair enough. But using equipment with the hardness of steel todo it ain't cool. Though now I think my shoulder pads will now be NHL illegal. : /

Neal also got 2 games for this woozy doozy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl4gzfm1rWU


Speaking of the Cal-Chi game, did you see Hjalmarsson's hit on Bourque? Ouch.

[CanadianStormtrooper]

Seiran[/B] http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4438134#post4438134)
Ducks are gonna spank the competition this year and take the cup back home to the pond!!!



Without ****ger or Beauchamin? Keep dreaming yuppie. p-)

hahahahahahaha!

No comment!
Selanne is the ****...
My fav player ever since he was in Winnipeg

any Canadian team will be fine for this year. xdxdxd

[vinny_121_ND]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLbFi3P1N7c

Stay classy, Anaheim!

Wow. Glad to see Americans being a little more passionate about hockey than Canadians :)

[vinny_121_ND]

Lotta moves lately Vinny.

I might have to reconsider a few things...

Pod, give me marleau and boyle, I'll give you semin, cammallari and gonchar. Good deal? It will complete your backstrom ovie and semin line.

[BlackFlag]

Dirty knee to knee hit on Nik Kronwall by Georges Laraque.

Kronwall's out at least 2-3 weeks. The Wings are getting decimated by injuries.

Franzen
Filppula
Williams
Lilja
Kronwall

Not looking good :(


http://www.youtube.com/v/os7Gj683e7M

This NHL season is ridiculous. The local broadcasters mentioned that almost 20% of the league is or has been injured. It's not even December.

[vinny_121_ND]

This NHL season is ridiculous. The local broadcasters mentioned that almost 20% of the league is or has been injured. It's not even December.

Agreed. Penguins are also losing a lot of their main defensemen.

[Jobu]

Dirty knee to knee hit on Nik Kronwall by Georges Laraque.

Kronwall's out at least 2-3 weeks. The Wings are getting decimated by injuries.


In this one specific case, it seems to be karmic justice. Kronwall is a dirty headhunter (much like Ulf, Marchment, etc. years ago)

[nullterm]

I like Big George, but on that one shift he got 6 minutes of penalties and cost the Habs 2 goals while he was in the box. 2 for the knee, 4 for a high stick (I think was the breakdown). Dumbest hockey shift in a long time that I can remember.

[nullterm]

OMG... that mythical thing called "a trade" has occured. Benoit Pouliot for Latrendress.

The NHL has become intensely boring trade wise with the salary cap situation, mega contracts, and clubs handing out NTC like candy.

[CanadianStormtrooper]

OMG... that mythical thing called "a trade" has occured. Benoit Pouliot for Latrendress.

The NHL has become intensely boring trade wise with the salary cap situation, mega contracts, and clubs handing out NTC like candy.

Agreed 100%

Bettman needs to go the ****ing shiester.

This year has been such a ****ing waste in my opinion....comon

LETS PLAY SOME HOCKEY ALREADY.

I've got nothing special too add, you've said it all.

[nullterm]

Bettman needs to go the ****ing shiester.

I don't like Bettman, okay I despise him, but how are a lack of trades his fault? Isn't it the GMs who fought for a cap and then started handing out stupid contracts? Plus the whole economy that will drive the cap down.

[BlackFlag]

In this one specific case, it seems to be karmic justice. Kronwall is a dirty headhunter (much like Ulf, Marchment, etc. years ago)

I disagree. Most of his hits, are legal. That hit on Havlat last year, in which he was given a game misconduct sticks out. The guy lands legal hits, and everyone wants to cry foul. I'd be the first one to criticize him for a dirty, head hunting play.

[Jobu]

I disagree. Most of his hits, are legal. That hit on Havlat last year, in which he was given a game misconduct sticks out. The guy lands legal hits, and everyone wants to cry foul. I'd be the first one to criticize him for a dirty, head hunting play.

Lupul, Carter, etc. Kronwall has a history of going for other players' heads and jumping while doing so.

Dirty player. He deserved to be injured.

[CanadianStormtrooper]

I don't like Bettman, okay I despise him, but how are a lack of trades his fault? Isn't it the GMs who fought for a cap and then started handing out stupid contracts? Plus the whole economy that will drive the cap down.

He needs to expand in Canada
Screw the coyotes
Screw Carolina
Screw every team with 5000 attendance

Bull****.

The NHL would be alot more exciting and special.
Merchandise and Season tickets alone will pay for the dang teams

lol one more thing to add..Teams in Europe would be better before teams in the South

and now that's a plane ride!
But with multiple teams over there and 2 or 3 games back to back like baseball would be fantastic.

[BlackFlag]

Lupul, Carter, etc. Kronwall has a history of going for other players' heads and jumping while doing so.

Dirty player. He deserved to be injured.

His feet leaving the ice after the hit isn't illegal, which is what he does.

To say he deserves to be injured is pretty low.