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ArmNav
08-09-2003, 02:52 AM
Does anyone out there have any pictures of Task Force 20 in Iraq? And what units are in TF20?
millhouse
08-09-2003, 04:05 AM
Check out the After the Fight Post. There are some links to photos of Uday and Qusay being dragged out. One has what look like TF 20 operators, but you cannot tell for sure, since they have no clear markings. TF 20 includes Rangers btw, so that may obscure things further, I'm assuming of course that you are searching for other elements in the command such as SF-OD, or DEVGRU.
FallenAngel
08-09-2003, 04:06 AM
Units...I think it's a mixed group of Spec Ops units from all branches. I do not know anything specific, but I think it includes some SEALs, SF, Force Recon (Detach. One?), CAG, and DevGru. They also probably use Rangers for muscle/diversions.
As for pictures...the only ones I know of are the ones from the Pvt. Lynch rescue and the NV ones of the SEALs taking that dam/power station.
Then again...I could be completely and utter wrong.
Piccolo
08-09-2003, 02:16 PM
Units...I think it's a mixed group of Spec Ops units from all branches. I do not know anything specific, but I think it includes some SEALs, SF, Force Recon (Detach. One?), CAG, and DevGru. They also probably use Rangers for muscle/diversions.
As for pictures...the only ones I know of are the ones from the Pvt. Lynch rescue and the NV ones of the SEALs taking that dam/power station.
Then again...I could be completely and utter wrong.
DET1 is not Force Recon, btw. From all signs as of now, the DET is in training with the SEALs and has not yet deployed.
Nokkvi
08-09-2003, 04:16 PM
Pics of hauling hussein brothers are for certain a mix of 101st AB and Task Force 20. No doubt whatsoever!!
ShotOver
08-12-2003, 08:52 AM
Yeah, those pictures have alot or TF20 people.
Would TF20 be the same as TaskForce Ranger from 1993? with Rangers, Delta and SEALs with support crew?
Zach R.
08-12-2003, 09:13 AM
No, TF20 is not the same as TFR. It is rumored to include, 1st SFOD-D, SEALs, Rangers, SF, 101st AB, and I'm not quite sure about Devgru though.
ShotOver
08-12-2003, 09:15 AM
What would the 101st be doing? i thought Rangers usually give perimeter support to Delta and other SF.
[quote="FallenAngel"]Units...I think it's a mixed group of Spec Ops units from all branches. I do not know anything specific, but I think it includes some SEALs, SF, Force Recon (Detach. One?), CAG, and DevGru. They also probably use Rangers for muscle/diversions.
What does CAG stand for?
Seraphim
08-12-2003, 01:18 PM
Heres your answer lo and behold
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3104
To: UCT_Sinasta
Thank you!
Found it!, Didnīt see it before, sorry...
Seraphim
08-12-2003, 02:16 PM
:lol:
No problem
dupielupie
08-12-2003, 02:35 PM
hey guys - where is the link or pictures of TaskForce 20
Thx
t*BoNe
08-12-2003, 02:47 PM
No, TF20 is not the same as TFR. It is rumored to include, 1st SFOD-D, SEALs, Rangers, SF, 101st AB, and I'm not quite sure about Devgru though.
They aren't the same obviously but the two Task Forces share many similarities. They are both umbrella groupings of JSOC elements for specialized tasks. For the most part both Task Forces deployed and mobilized similar units albeit in different numbers and for different tasks. The 101st is not attached to TF 20, but are mobilized in support of TF 20 when requested.
Seraphim
08-12-2003, 04:03 PM
hey guys - where is the link or pictures of TaskForce 20
Thx
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/view_album.php?set_albumName=Battle_at_hideout_of_Odai_and_Qusai_Hussein
4th picture, like others said...more pictures of TF20 when they were carrying Odai and Qusai bodies.
yep, first post.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2810&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=39
millhouse
08-12-2003, 11:35 PM
If you will remember, in the Mogadishu battle, there were also SEAL's fighting, one or two of which were SEAL team six members. I would not be surprised if DEVGRU were an element of TF20. Even forces such SAS and other special forces groups from around the world may be used if they are useful.
So the next logical question would be, what does the 20 stand for. Is there a 19?
Piccolo
08-13-2003, 02:46 AM
If you guys recall, there was a Task Force 11 operating in Afghanistan. Reportedly it was maded up of CAG/DEVGRU and the usual players. I'm not sure on why or how they would go from 11 to 20, but who knows.
ShotOver
08-13-2003, 04:01 AM
You sure it has to have a meaning?
millhouse
08-14-2003, 01:11 AM
If you look in the photo of qusay being dragged out, you can see one of the operators wearing what look like Oakley assault boots. Are they? And, what kind of pistol is the operator in the foreground wearing. It looks like a Wilson, and according to the Blackhawk Down dvd booklet, it must be a SF-OD soldier.... rofl But seriously, can anyone ID the pistol and boots???
http://a1497.g.akamai.net/f/1497/14/1d/www.oakley.com/media/product/assault_boot/black.jpg
ShotOver
08-14-2003, 02:39 AM
The pistol looks like a 1911 to me, could be wrong though.
Chris196
08-14-2003, 03:09 PM
It is a customized 1911A1 .45
andersgrim
08-14-2003, 03:53 PM
The TaskForce20 do consist of the CAG/SFOD-D and SEALs aswell as Rangers (dunno if there are anymore SpecOp units), but also the CIA has a finger in TF20. I am not sure if the CIA only handles intelligence or if they actually use combat units.
He219
08-14-2003, 03:58 PM
The CIA provides backup and intel. They don't like 'field personel' under the command of the Pentagon with TF20....
mikeytwo
03-19-2006, 04:52 PM
Think intel is provided by Intelligence Support Activity. They were part of every Task Force before. CIA might be involved but ISA is there almost for sure.
Strider
03-19-2006, 04:56 PM
You revived a 2.5 year old thread... -_-
mikeytwo
03-19-2006, 04:57 PM
So did you. It's about the info not when it was started.
moughoun
03-19-2006, 05:05 PM
Think intel is provided by Intelligence Support Activity. They were part of every Task Force before. CIA might be involved but ISA is there almost for sure.
oh someone's been reading "killer elite"p-)
mikeytwo
03-19-2006, 05:08 PM
Killer elite? Just make sense. They were created for that purpose back in 1981. So why not use them. Makes more sense in an all army task force to use an jsoc unit instead of the CIA for intel
Chops
03-19-2006, 05:34 PM
Think intel is provided by Intelligence Support Activity. They were part of every Task Force before. CIA might be involved but ISA is there almost for sure.
What's this ISA you speak of? Ain't no such unit...
C
ibstolidude
03-19-2006, 06:08 PM
[quote="FallenAngel"]
What does CAG stand for?
Cool-Ass Gear or Civillian Attire Group or Crazy-Ass Guys.....
Who is raising mummies?
mikeytwo
03-20-2006, 03:55 AM
ISA is an US special forces intelligence unit raised somewhere around the 1980's. Check this link for additional information.
http://specencyclopaedia.com/web/continents/North%20America/United%20States%20of%20America/SOF/Intelligence%20Support%20Activity/intelligence_support_activity.shtml
mikeytwo
03-20-2006, 03:56 AM
It's better ro raise mummies than to raise hell.
Chops
03-20-2006, 04:12 AM
ISA is an US special forces intelligence unit raised somewhere around the 1980's. Check this link for additional information.
http://specencyclopaedia.com/web/continents/North%20America/United%20States%20of%20America/SOF/Intelligence%20Support%20Activity/intelligence_support_activity.shtml
I was being sarcastic- well sort of... They have not operated under that name for a loooong time.
Perhaps best if you get the lay of the land around here before posting with authority my friend.
cheers
Chops
mikeytwo
03-20-2006, 04:31 AM
Used the name they are probably best known with. They have been using so many different names that it is hard to keep track off. Think they are currently operating under Gray Fox (Grey Fox). Btw nice to meet a real authority on the subject. So what do you know about the current status of isa?
Chops
03-20-2006, 05:40 AM
Nothing I'm saying here. Anyone who is stupid enough to post anything but historicals regarding them gets it deleted. Some things just don't need to be talked about.
Once again mikeytwo- take some time to learn the lay of the land. The moderators and some of the more active duty types here take a very dim view of anything which exposes TTPs.
regards
Chops
Royal
03-20-2006, 06:22 AM
ISA is an US special forces intelligence unit raised somewhere around the 1980's. Check this link for additional information.
http://specencyclopaedia.com/web/continents/North%20America/United%20States%20of%20America/SOF/Intelligence%20Support%20Activity/intelligence_support_activity.shtml
If the British units are anything to go by, I wouldn't trust a thing from that link. I've just wasted 10 minutes looking at it and not one of the British descriptions is correct.
Chops
03-20-2006, 06:59 AM
And dear Lord some of the US ones are in a right old pickle too- Yellow Fruit=ISA?? The Delta one was a jolly old wheeze too. Particularly liked how the site was illustrated with pictures of those Action Man doll things. Kinda adds credibility don't ya think?
Royal- did you know that the RMs are 'British Navy Special Forces'? News to me too. Couldn't even find SASR or the TAGs. I'm sure they're there hidden away with their own action figures though...
moughoun
03-20-2006, 07:11 AM
I love how people, can go to one of those sites, read it, and suddenly they are expert's on these sort's of thing's...:roll:, I think I'll go to the national geographic site, and become an instant anthropology expert, and then go give lectures on it.p-)
Chops
03-20-2006, 07:16 AM
Hey moughoun
Where's your old avatar man? It used to...well...have an effect on me...;-)
moughoun
03-20-2006, 07:17 AM
Hey moughoun
Where's your old avatar man? It used to...well...have an effect on me...;-)
your a sick man...........she was just sneezing:-(
p-)
Chops
03-20-2006, 07:24 AM
[QUOTE=moughoun]your a sick man...........she was just sneezing:-(
And yes and I was just...checking myself for growths...
;-)
mikeytwo
03-20-2006, 11:18 AM
Sorry :oops: Just want contribute to the discussion. Didn't wanna be told off. :bash:
Chops
03-20-2006, 03:53 PM
Don't post stupid questions and you won't be told off mate.
C
mikeytwo
03-20-2006, 04:55 PM
Nos uch things as stupid questions only ones you don't ask. That's the free world.
Dominique
03-20-2006, 04:59 PM
Nos uch things as stupid questions only ones you don't ask. Apprently the person that coined that phrase never had to field some of the questions that I have.
Baboonass
03-20-2006, 05:02 PM
Nos uch things as stupid questions .
Apparently there are.
Roy Batty
03-20-2006, 06:41 PM
JTF1????? What the fcuk???
Chops
03-21-2006, 02:53 AM
For anyone who doesn't get it- there is a war on.
Yep surprise surprise I know. And not just in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If it seems a bit harsh when the mods kybosh certain requests for information or certain images it is for this reason.
The opposition can use this site just as effectively as we can and up to date information on what SMUs have been up to can add to their base of knowledge and endanger future operations and the operators themselves. As can posting of non sterilised images of operators and even sometimes of their equipment as it all goes toward building a composite picture of TTPs.
This also goes for some of the green army stuff too- anti IED techniques for instance being an obvious example.
So next time you get annoyed that mp.net doesn't provide all the high speed stuff you want all the time just remember- there's a war on.
regards
Chops
Sand Man
06-05-2006, 02:29 PM
Excuse me, I know this thread is a bit "inactive" -- but what does TTP stand for?
Thanks!
hist2004
06-05-2006, 02:38 PM
Excuse me, I know this thread is a bit "inactive" -- but what does TTP stand for?
Thanks!
tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTP)
Hist2004
Sand Man
06-05-2006, 02:43 PM
tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTP)
Hist2004
Much Thanks!
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