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IR5
07-18-2013, 05:08 PM
You are unable to find the original article in Arabic, because it could have been already censored and removed from the site by the Egyptian militaries. All you are left with is ToI and NOW reporting about it.

Or Aswat Masriya never reported this quote and several news outlets decided not check their sources before regurgitating what they read on some unreliable website.

You don't need to dream up some grand conspiracy theory, especially since both NOW and Times of Israel report BS info from time to time.

The fact that you cannot find a single reliable source verifying this quote speaks for itself.


I don't understand. Whatever the word that was used, both NOW and ToI translated it as 'Islamists'.

Nope, in the Arabic version NOW reported the Commander of the Third Army as saying "Ikhwan". That's a pretty good indicator that the quote is BS.

And this is putting aside how NOW claimed that their "military sources" told them terrorists were using HAWK SAM missiles against Egyptian military ground targets.

I also think one of the conditions for using Aswat Masriya's information is to link back to their original article. Not a single source you provided actually did that, I wonder why...

Camera
07-18-2013, 05:16 PM
Or Aswat Masriya never reported this quote and several news outlets decided not check their sources before regurgitating what they read on some unreliable website.

The fact that you cannot find a single reliable source verifying this quote speaks for itself.

I have a reliable source, which is ToI. I have an Arabic source - NOW - which can not be suspected to plot with the 'Zionist propaganda'.


Nope, in the Arabic version NOW reported the Commander of the Third Army as saying "Ikhwan". That's a pretty good indicator that the quote is BS.

And this is putting aside how they claimed that terrorists were using HAWK SAM missiles against Egyptian military ground targets.

I'm not surprised, because the Arab media are usually of poor journalism, though the Lebanese media are sill considered to be the best among them.


I think one of the conditions for using Aswat Masriya's information is to link back to their original article. Not a single source you provided actually did that, I wonder why...

You ask me why you can not find the Aswat Marsiya report. How could I know?
As I told you, I won't be surprised if the militaries ordered the site to remove the web page, just as at Mubarak's times.

Camera
07-18-2013, 05:26 PM
Egypt's president vows to restore stability, prevent chaos

By REUTER$
07/18/2013 22:24



CAIRO - Egypt's interim president, Adli Mansour, said on Thursday some people were trying to drive Egypt into "chaos" and promised to restore stability and security to the country.

"We are going through a critical stage and some want us to move towards chaos and we want to move towards stability. Some want a bloody path," Mansour said in a televised speech, his first since he was sworn in on July 4.

"We will fight a battle for security until the end," he added.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Egypts-president-vows-to-restore-stability-prevent-chaos-320319

IR5
07-18-2013, 05:30 PM
I have a reliable source, which is ToI.

That's not a reliable source. Especially not when they are supposedly re-reporting news from an otherwise highly-trusted news website, but all the quotes they cited in their article cannot be found on the original news website and no reliable international news outlet has decided to run the quote.


I have an Arabic source - NOW - which can not be suspected to plot with the 'Zionist propaganda'.

No one said anything about "Zionist propaganda". The issue here is *****ty journalism.


I'm not surprised, because the Arab media are usually of poor journalism

Cool, so you admit now that NOW news cannot be trusted, especially considering the highly suspect nature of the quote and the fact that no reliable news sources are using it.


You ask me why you can not find the Aswat Marsiya report. How could I know?

As I told you, I won't be surprised if the militaries ordered the site to remove the web page, just as at Mubarak's times.

Yeah, you're probably right.

Why chalk this up to crappy journalism when you can blame it on a grand military conspiracy?

Camera
07-18-2013, 05:36 PM
That's not a reliable source. Especially not when they are supposedly re-reporting news from an otherwise reliable source, but all the quotes they cited in their article cannot be found from the original source or on any other reliable source.



No one said anything about "Zionist propaganda". The issue here is *****ty journalism.



Cool, so you admit now that NOW news cannot be trusted, especially considering the highly suspect nature of the quote and the fact that no reliable news sources are using it.



Yeah, you're probably right.

Why chalk this up to crappy journalism when you can blame it on a grand military conspiracy?

It's very simple, but you seem unable (or unwilling) to understand.
There's no way for ToI and for NOW to report both about the same Egyptian article if it did not existed online on a given moment. Thus, the only explanation I can found to you questioning is that the article was put offline.
That's why I told you to check by yourself why is it so. You are the one who lives in Egypt and who speaks Arabic.

IR5
07-18-2013, 05:44 PM
There's no way for ToI and for NOW to report both on the same Egyptian article if it did not existed online on a given moment.

Actually there is a way. Both news websites, already known for reporting whatever BS they find online without verification (NOW goes a step further by making ***** up), read somewhere that this was "reported by Aswat Masriya" and decided to run this quote without verifying from the original source.

But let's say this is an Egyptian censoring conspiracy as you're claiming. Why aren't other highly-credible international news organizations -- like R*e*ut*ers, CNN and others -- reporting this bombshell of a quote?

I mean, the commander of the Third Army explicitly stating that Hamas is aiding the MB in "terrorizing" Egypt is a pretty big deal.

Camera
07-18-2013, 05:51 PM
Actually there is a way. Both news website, already known for reporting whatever BS they find online (NOW goes a step further by making ***** up), read somewhere that this was "reported by Aswat Masriya" and decided to run this quote without verifying from the original source.

This happens all the time when unreliable news websites like Times of Israel and NOW, especially when they report on Egypt. They just take whatever they find online and republish it ASAP without verifying anything.

Here you are: it is a Zionist fabricated article, copied by silly Lebanese who worked hard to translate it in Arabic instead of quoting from the original.
Chances are higher that military censorship was shadowily restored in your country. It's part of your governance culture.




Operation to rid Sinai of armed criminals begins Friday

Al-Masry Al-Youm (http://www.egyptindependent.com/staff/al-masry-al-youm)

A military source said Thursday that the "zero hour" to rid Sinai of criminal elements begins Friday, which corresponds with 10 Ramadan, the anniversary of the October War of 1973.
The armed forces are cooperating with the police to face criminal elements in North Sinai, within a plan to tighten control over the situation in the region.

The source said that ten armed elements were killed and dozens others wounded in the past 48 hours.

The military campaign is equipped with heavy machinery, rocket launchers, and Apache helicopters, with tanks placed in numerous fixed and moving checkpoints.

The source added that the army had spotted all terrorist outposts, and that the criminals started to come out of their hiding places after their energy and ammunition had been depleted in the last few days.

Tribal elders are providing the troops with information about the terrorist hideouts in the mountain valleys so that they can besiege them.

The source pointed out that the demolition of tunnels along the border contributed vastly to the operation, as the militants used to carry the injured to the Palestinian side for treatment there. Some tunnels are difficult to destroy, however, as they are dug inside people's homes.

The source described the upcoming "cleansing" operation as a lifesaver for real development in the peninsula.

Participating in the operation is the Second Field Army, special parachute forces and commandos, the Navy, and the Air Force.

The police have also been on maximum alert there for more than a month.

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/operation-rid-sinai-armed-criminals-begins-friday

Killing Islamic fanatics is a nice way to celebrate the anniversary of YKW.

IR5
07-18-2013, 05:54 PM
Chances are higher that military censorship was shadowily restored in your country. It's part of your governance culture.

Okay, so how do you explain the fact that no international news organization is using this pretty important and unprecedented quote?

Does Re.u.te.rs (which funds Aswat Masriya) have an Egyptian military censor telling it what it can and can't publish? Does CNN?


Killing Islamic fanatics is a nice way to celebrate the anniversary of YKW.

Let's hope the Egyptian military stays there after the Op is over. Gotta make sure that the law stays enforced.

Camera
07-18-2013, 05:57 PM
Let's hope the Egyptian military stays there after the Op is over. Gotta make sure that the law stays enforced.

Ya'alon said few days ago that they will be authorized to stay as long as it is necessary. The Israelis keep a low profile, but they seem to be in tune with the Egyptian militaries on the problems in Sinai.

Camera
07-18-2013, 06:07 PM
Okay, so how do you explain the fact that no international news organization is using this pretty important and unprecedented quote?

Does Re.u.te.rs (which funds Aswat Masriya) have an Egyptian military censor telling it what it can and can't publish? Does CNN?

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Most international journalists do not read reports in Arabic. Only Arabs and Israelis read them.


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A very interesting investigative report by AP that gives a new insight into the military coup. I recommend it warmly:


Behind Egypt’s coup, months of acrimony between Morsi and top general over Sinai, policies

By Associated Press, Published: July 18


CAIRO — The head of Egypt’s military, Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, sat with a polite smile in the front row listening to President Mohammed Morsi give a 2 1/2-hour speech defending his year in office. El-Sissi even clapped lightly as the audience of Morsi supporters broke into cheers.

It was a calculating display of cool by an army general plotting the overthrow of his commander in chief. Just over a week later, el-Sissi slid in the knife, announcing Morsi’s ouster on state TV on July 3 as troops took the Islamist leader into custody.

The move was the culmination of nearly a year of acrimonious relations between el-Sissi and Egypt’s first freely elected — and first civilian — president.

A series of interviews by The Associated Press with defense, security and intelligence officials paint a picture of a president who intended to flex his civilian authority as supreme commander of the armed forces, issuing orders to el-Sissi. In turn, the military chief believed Morsi was leading the country into turmoil and repeatedly challenged him, defying his orders in at least two cases.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/behind-egypts-coup-months-of-acrimony-between-morsi-and-top-general-over-sinai-policies/2013/07/18/037af52e-ef6c-11e2-bb32-725c8351a69e_story.html

Camera
07-18-2013, 06:21 PM
Probably related to the Egyptian military preparations and to Kerry's efforts to restart the peace talks: Kassam rockets hit Israel's south, no damage: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4407011,00.html (http://www.timesofisrael.com/rockets-hit-southern-israel-none-injured/)

IR5
07-18-2013, 06:24 PM
Disputes in National Salvation Front emerge ahead of elections



With the Wafd Party stating that the NSF should disband, and socialist parties reconsidering ties to rightist currents, the umbrella group likely faces a rocky future as electoral jockeying begins

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76774/Egypt/Politics-/Disputes-in-National-Salvation-Front-emerge-ahead-.aspx

Also Nour Party is going to run for Parliamentary elections.


Most international journalists do not read reports in Arabic. Only Arabs and Israelis read them.

What the hell are you on about?

R.uet.ers, AP, NYT, etc. all have Arabic-speaking correspondents on the ground in Egypt, unlike Times of Israel.

You can find many of these correspondents on Twitter. They are extremely well-read on Arabic sources and are literally up-to-the-minute on Arab news. The difference is that their organizations have journalistic integrity and they know to verify their information before reporting whatever they find online.

Camera
07-18-2013, 06:38 PM
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What the hell are you on about?

R.uet.ers, AP, NYT, etc. all have Arabic-speaking correspondents on the ground in Egypt, unlike Times of Israel.

1. For years, Arab leaders had double language: they made one kind of statements in English to the international media and quite different statements in Arabic for the local audience. Guess what? Nobody in the international press noticed it, until Memri started to translate what was said to the Arabic audience.

2. The statements of the general are of little interest for the international media. Everybody knows perfectly that the terrorists in Sinai are 'Islamists'. The only ones who give an importance to how they could have been called by the general are the Egyptians who, for reasons related to their internal policy, prefer to call them 'criminal elements'.


You can find many of these correspondents on Twitter. They are extremely well-read on Arabic sources and are literally up-to-the-minute on Arab news. The difference is that their organizations have journalistic integrity and they know to verify their information before reporting whatever they find online.

Times of Israel is an excellent media that stands the comparison to the best international media. Your problem is simply with your Egyptian inferiority complex and paranoia to everything that is Israeli.

IR5
07-18-2013, 09:33 PM
1. For years, Arab leaders had double language: they made one kind of statements in English to the international media and quite different statements in Arabic for the local audience.

But you're claiming this was reported in Arabic on a website called "Aswat Masriya" (literally "Egyptian Voices" in Arabic), so presumably the Commander of the Third Army would realize pretty quickly that he was speaking to local media.

Moreover, the quote was actually reported in less than reliable Egyptian news websites, but was never carried by the reliable ones. This mirrors a similar situation to English-language news media, where unreliable websites like Times of Israel carried it and reliable news organizations never used it.

And actually, I saw several correspondents for English-language newswires and news papers retweeting links to this quote on their timelines a couple of days ago. They just never reported it in their pieces because it was unreliable.

Also, if that statement was made in English and reported in an English-language newspaper, it would have been translated and reported by Arab and Egyptian news organizations the very day of its publication. I never saw a controversial statement made by an Egyptian leader in the international media that was not immediately reported by Egyptian newspapers and websites.

In fact, El-Sisi himself was in this situation a year ago when he made a statement justifying the virginity tests (the statement was made to CNN, IIRC).

It was immediately reported by all domestic Egyptian media and the military had to distance itself from the comments.

Again, you're just grasping on straws and trying really hard not to admit you're wrong.


2. The statements of the general are of little interest for the international media. Everybody knows perfectly that the terrorists in Sinai are 'Islamists'.

The word that was used in the BS Arabic quote was "Ikhwan" (Muslim Brotherhood), not just any "Islamists". Specifically, it said that Hamas and the MB are cooperating in the Sinai to "terrorize Egyptians".

That's a pretty heavy escalation in the rhetoric of the military and would be of incredible interest to both the international and domestic media.


Times of Israel is an excellent media that stands the comparison to the best international media.

Hahaha, not it's not. Not even close.

But your wounded Israeli pride is super adorable. No wonder you're trying really, really hard not admit the quote your source reported is BS.

Camera
07-19-2013, 05:19 AM
… SNIP…

The word that was used in the BS Arabic quote was "Ikhwan" (Muslim Brotherhood), not just any "Islamists". Specifically, it said that Hamas and the MB are cooperating in the Sinai to "terrorize Egyptians".

That's a pretty heavy escalation in the rhetoric of the military and would be of incredible interest to both the international and domestic media.

…SNIP …

First you have pretended that the article doesn't exist and your explanation was that it was a Zionist and a Lebanese fabrication. Though, you could have just asked Shalata to give you the link, because he has read it and commented on it few posts ago:


I read it man. The word " Ekhwan " i.e MB in the Arabic reference is translated in your English version as Islamists . Moreover, I am defining the statement in the Arabic version as a complete fabrication.

You waisted bandwidth and my time with that silly argument.

Now your problem is with semantics in the English translation, even hough both NOW and ToI translated it the same way. Everybody knows that in Sinai, the EAF has issues with Hamas, Salafist fanatics and AQ, so I fail to see what escalation the quote allegedly contains.
So just post the Arabic article and let Arab readers judge about the translation. There are plenty of Arab readers on this site, including among the Israelis.

Camera
07-19-2013, 05:44 AM
Weeks After an Ouster, Egypt’s Military and Islamists Are Far From a Deal

By KAREEM FAHIM (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/kareem_fahim/index.html) and MAYY EL SHEIKH

Published: July 18, 2013

CAIRO — More than two weeks after the military removed President Mohamed Morsi from power, intense efforts to bring the generals and the ex-president’s Islamist supporters to an agreement have so far come up empty, deepening Egypt’s political crisis.

The efforts, according to intermediaries, have been stymied by the military’s refusal so far to release Mr. Morsi and several aides, who are held incommunicado and have not been charged with crimes. In Mr. Morsi’s absence, members of his movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, have continued to demand that the military’s intervention be reversed as a precondition for any settlement.

“It’s bleak,” said one mediator, adding that the Brotherhood so far does not seem to grasp that Mr. Morsi will not be reinstated. “The military is only willing to talk about the future, not about yesterday or the day before,” he said. “They turned the page on Morsi.”

The impasse comes amid fears by the Islamists that the authorities are preparing to break up their sit-in at a Cairo square, which has lasted three weeks. Concerns are also growing that prosecutors who are investigating various allegations against Mr. Morsi could decide to formally file criminal charges against him, a move that is all but certain to lead to another wave of unrest.

Such charges would probably “signal the end of a potential political deal,” said Heba Morayef (http://www.hrw.org/bios/heba-morayef), the Egypt director for Human Rights Watch. “The decision will have been made to exclude them from the political system. I think it will lead to protests that are likely to turn violent and mass arrests of members of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

CONTINIUED: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/world/middleeast/weeks-after-an-ouster-egypts-military-and-islamists-are-far-from-a-deal.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

Camera
07-19-2013, 05:50 AM
Iron Dome battery stationed in Eilat amid Sinai instability

By JPOST.COM STAFF
07/19/2013 12:05



2 rockets from Gaza land in open areas of Western Negev Thursday.

The IDF has stationed an Iron Dome missile defense battery near the southern city of Eilat, an army spokesperson said on Friday.
The move comes amid the latest bout of unrest in Egypt that has put Israel on edge in part because of an increase of Islamist militancy in the Sinai region.

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Earlier this month IDF troops found the remains of the first rocket (http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Remains-of-rocket-fired-from-Egypt-found-in-Israel-319321) to be fired from Egypt since the July 3 overthrow of the Islamist government there, a military official said.
An IDF spokesman said the rocket remnant had been discovered in the hills north of Eilat.

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Iron-Dome-battery-stationed-in-Eilat-amid-Sinai-instability-320377

Camera
07-19-2013, 06:01 AM
Egyptian Christians happy Morsi is gone but remain wary

By REUTER$
07/19/2013 10:20



Copts fear Islamists could regain power when new elections held.

CAIRO - The evening Egypt's army ousted Islamist President Mohamed Morsi, Christian lawyer Peter Naggar celebrated on Tahrir Square with even greater joy than when autocrat Hosni Mubarak fell from power two years ago.

Naggar remains deeply relieved that a year of Islamist rule ended a fortnight ago and yet, as the initial excitement fades, many members of his ancient Christian minority fear Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood will not give up power so easily.

Neither is the Coptic Christian community under any illusion that the army's installation of an interim government devoid of Islamists spells the end to its long-standing grievances, such as difficulties in getting state jobs, equality before the law and securing permits to build churches.

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Communal tensions and attacks on Christians and churches rose sharply under Morsi, Egypt's first freely-elected president. Many Copts, who make up about a tenth of Egypt's 84 million people, left the country where their ancestors settled in the earliest years of Christianity - several centuries before the arrival of Islam.

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Copts are happy that the new interim cabinet, which will rule until elections are held, contains three Christians including liberal Mounir Fakhry Abdel Nour in the important investment ministry portfolio. Morsi's cabinet had just one Christian in the post of minister for scientific research.

"This is a government for all Egyptians," said Naggar. "They got appointed because they are competent."

But the Copts' long-standing complaints persist. "You cannot get a job in the police or also in many other state positions," said Habib, who works at a jewellery shop, a business line which has long attracted Christian traders.

Many Christians, like Muslim Egyptians, hated the brutality and corruption of the Mubarak era, but say they felt safer under the man who jailed Islamists during his 30 years in power.
Nevertheless, life was never entirely secure for the community even before the Brotherhood's time in office. One campaign group, the Mosireen collective, has documented how troops shot Christian protesters in late 2011 during direct military rule between Mubarak's fall and Morsi's election.

Christian leaders acknowledge that some of the community's problems such as access to state jobs also affect Muslims in a country known for corruption and a weak legal system.

HIJACKED THROUGH THE BALLOT BOX?

Youssef Sidhom, a prominent Christian commentator, said he was disappointed with the interim leadership's constitutional decree. This reinstated an article in last year's constitution, drafted by Islamists and boycotted by the church and liberals, which said laws derive from principles of Islamic law.

"That was very worrying and annoying and I think that bitter criticism has reached our interim president," said Sidhom, editor of the Coptic newspaper al-Watani.

The biggest threat was that liberals and moderate Muslims will fail again to overcome their divisions, he said. This could hand another electoral victory to Islamist groups which have won every vote since Mubarak's overthrow and remain better organized than their opponents.

"Our revolution may get hijacked for the second time by the Muslim Brotherhood through the ballot box so we have to be there. We have to stay united," said Sidhom, who has reported up to 50 attacks by Islamists on Copts since June 30.

Moderate Copts fear a radicalization of their own youth who believe some Muslim hardliners want to get rid of Christianity. "We Christians have been always discriminated against and tortured," said Michael Georges, another late-night cathedral visitor. "I don't see any change," he said, before riding off with his motor bike.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egyptian-Christians-happy-Morsi-is-gone-but-remain-wary-320374

m4rs75
07-19-2013, 06:48 AM
Iron Dome battery stationed in Eilat amid Sinai instability





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Iron Dome in Eilat (Photos: Meir Ohayon)

m4rs75
07-19-2013, 06:49 AM
The Egyptian newspaper Al-Youm Al-Sabaa reported of two failed attempts on the life of Defense Minister General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, since the ouster of President Mohamed Morsi.

According to the report, the failed attempts were coordinated by extremist militant groups and the Muslim Brotherhood.

IR5
07-19-2013, 09:31 AM
Egypt's foreign reserves reach around $20 billion after Arab aid


Egypt’s net international reserves rose to reach more than $20 billion due to the oil-rich Gulf States’ recently sent aids, Al-Ahram Arabic news website reported Thursday, citing the Central Bank of Egypt’s (CBE) governor Hisham Ramez.

Egypt’s net international reserves (NIR) dropped in June to $14.9 billion, CBE announced.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/3/12/76823/Business/Economy/Egypts-foreign-reserves-reach-around--bn-in-Arab-a.aspx

Pretty good news, but temporary if at least some subsidy reforms aren't enacted.


First you have pretended that the article doesn't exist and your explanation was that it was a Zionist and a Lebanese fabrication. Though, you could have just asked Shalata to give you the link, because he has read it and commented on it few posts ago:

This alleged Arabic Aswat Masriya article that you're claiming exists hasn't been found by anyone here, including shelata.

The only Arabic source that contains this bull***** quote is a NOW article filled with obvious nonsense (like how Al Qaeda militant attacked an Egyptian military outpost with HAWK SAM missiles).

I also never said anything about "Zionist and Lebanese fabrications".

Times of Israel and NOW are just plainly unreliable sources, that's all. It has nothing to do with nationality or ideology, these websites are just junk.


So just post the Arabic article and let Arab readers judge about the translation. There are plenty of Arab readers on this site, including among the Israelis.

You're the one who is claiming that article exists, so go ahead and find it.

I have already searched Aswat Masriya for it (both English and Arabic editions) and did a Google search on the quote (again in Arabic and English) and have not found this alleged article of yours.

Just stop trying so hard and admit the quote is BS. No need to stake your personal/national pride on obviously false information.

Nightsky
07-19-2013, 10:05 AM
The Egyptian newspaper Al-Youm Al-Sabaa reported of two failed attempts on the life of Defense Minister General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, since the ouster of President Mohamed Morsi.

According to the report, the failed attempts were coordinated by extremist militant groups and the Muslim Brotherhood.


bla bla .. posting quotes from Egyptian news outlets these days should be placed in the same line with DEBKA. The Guardian just revealed that in all probability it was the army orchestrating the bloodbath leaving 55 MB protestors dead. So I'd advice taking obviously biased sources elsewhere and the military and the remaining Egyptian newspapers obviously are.

Or shall I go and quote some Hamas or Hezbollah outlets regarding Egypt and Syria? Quite probably they're of the same credibility ...

m4rs75
07-19-2013, 11:55 AM
bla bla .. posting quotes from Egyptian news outlets these days should be placed in the same line with DEBKA. The Guardian just revealed that in all probability it was the army orchestrating the bloodbath leaving 55 MB protestors dead. So I'd advice taking obviously biased sources elsewhere and the military and the remaining Egyptian newspapers obviously are.

Or shall I go and quote some Hamas or Hezbollah outlets regarding Egypt and Syria? Quite probably they're of the same credibility ...

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/7876/pfc4.jpg

m4rs75
07-19-2013, 12:04 PM
The Egyptian army has completed its planned concentration of forces in Sinai, military commentator Hossam Sweilam, a retired Egyptian army general, told Al-Arabiya on July 18.

According to Sweilam 30,000 Egyptian troops are currently stationed in the peninsula. He added that the Egyptian army had arrested a squad of senior terrorists. He said that since the overthrow of President Mohamed Morsi, approximately 600 Hamas members have come through tunnels from Gaza into Sinai.

IR5
07-19-2013, 12:05 PM
bla bla .. posting quotes from Egyptian news outlets these days should be placed in the same line with DEBKA.

Well, Al Youm El Sabe' is actually an unreliable news website, but so far Egyptian sources have been the fastest and most reliable sources of information posted in this thread and, unlike Israeli websites, most of the mainstream ones don't carry unverified news stories from third parties.

I personally can't think of a single news story that's been posted from Ahram Online or the Egypt Independent (English version of Al Masry Al Youm) that turned out to be false.

Hollis
07-19-2013, 12:11 PM
Not sure if this has been posted. Let me know if it has.

TX.


Jul 12, 2013

Stars and *****es| by Megan McCloskey

WASHINGTON -- As political unrest continues in post-coup Egypt, two amphibious assault ships have moved to the coast there, the commandant of the Marine Corps said Thursday.
The USS Kearsarge and the USS San Antonio “moved up into the Red Sea and parked off of Egypt,” a couple of nights ago, “because we don’t know what’s going to happen,” Gen. James Amos said.


Amos was speaking with Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert at a forum on the future of maritime forces, which was held at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Having noted earlier that he thinks “there’s zero peace dividend” coming out Afghanistan, he used the situation in Egypt as part of his pitch that despite uncertain budget times the U.S. military should maintain a robust presence throughout the world.

“Crisis happens. Egypt is a crisis right now,” Amos said. “When that happens...what we owe the senior leadership of our nation is versatile options.”

The two ships are “there on purpose,” he said. “That’s the flexibility that in a response to a crisis we have to have.”

He and Greenert also discussed the pivot to Asia, a strategy that they are working on how to implement within the current budget constraints.

The build up in Australia is continuing with the number of Marines in Darwin set to grow from 250 to 1,000 in 2014, and the Marines have gone from one to three battalions on the Japanese island of Okinawa with a fourth headed there this fall.

Related Topics Marine Corps Navy Egypt

© Copyright 2013 Stars and *****es. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

IR5
07-19-2013, 12:26 PM
Mass pro-Morsi marches roam across Cairo Friday


Mass protests in support of deposed president Mohamed Morsi are underway across Cairo.

Demonstrators condemn what they say was a military coup against the country's democratically elected leader.


There are also anti-Morsi protests at the Ittihadiya presidential palace and Tahrir Square.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76866/Egypt/Politics-/Mass-proMorsi-marches-roam-across-Cairo-Friday.aspx

There's a lot of concern that the pro-Morsi protesters will go to Tahrir. Last time they did, 12 people were killed.


Not sure if this has been posted. Let me know if it has.

TX.

Yes, the Pentagon had to deny that these ships were going to invade Egypt.

I believe it was Al Youm Al Sabe' that first reported the headline "US Marine ships move to the coast in preparation to invade Egypt".

Camera
07-19-2013, 01:21 PM
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You're the one who is claiming that article exists, so go ahead and find it.

I have already searched Aswat Masriya for it (both English and Arabic editions) and did a Google search on the quote (again in Arabic and English) and have not found this alleged article of yours.

I didn't claim it exists. I brought two sources quoting it, which means it was online in a given moment. If you can not find it, it only proves it is not online anymore and nothing else. All your speculations that one site could have fabricated the article and the other site quoted from a fabricated article without confirming it from the original are nothing but your own speculations to explain why you unable to find the article.



Sinai citizens urged to avoid areas targeted by military operation

MENA (http://www.egyptindependent.com/staff/mena)

Military airplanes on Friday dropped leaflets on Sinai warning citizens against approaching security checkpoints as the Armed Forces continue operations against terrorist elements in the region.

The leaflets asked citizens to immediately inform the security forces of suspicious elements who might pose a threat to their lives, providing phone numbers in case of emergency.

“You have always been a support against occupation and terrorism, and over the past few days, terrorist elements have managed to infiltrate your land to launch attacks on citizens and the Armed Forces,” read the introduction.

Egypt's military has recently launched an operation against terrorist elements in Sinai. The region has seen several deadly attacks on police and army facilities over the past two years, encouraged by a security void that followed popular revolts which ousted former president Hosni Mubarak in 2011 and Mohamed Morsy in 2013.

The army said Thursday that 10 militants have been killed as a result of the campaign.

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/sinai-citizens-urged-avoid-areas-targeted-military-operation

Camera
07-19-2013, 01:25 PM
Britain revokes exports to Egyptian military over unrest

By REUTER$
07/19/2013 18:26



Move done out of fear that UK goods were used to stifle dissent.

Britain withdrew five export licenses to Egypt on Friday, saying it wanted to prevent British goods being used in unrest, which has led to civilian deaths there.

"We will not grant export licenses where we judge there is a clear risk the goods might be used for internal repression, provoke or prolong conflict within a country," Business Secretary Vince Cable said.

He added in a statement that there were no reports of British equipment having been used in the unrest.

The goods covered by the agreements include components for armored fighting infantry vehicles, communication equipment for tanks and machine gun parts. The revoked licenses were for goods sent between British exporters and the Egyptian military and police.

Export licenses are issued to companies or individuals, and Britain now has 212 such licenses left for exports to Egypt.

On Wednesday, parliament's Committees on Arms Export Controls said Britain had granted billions of pounds' worth of military export licenses for countries such as Syria, Iran and Libya despite questions over those countries' human rights records.

http://www.jpost.com/Elections-2013/Britain-revokes-exports-to-Egyptian-military-over-unrest-320399

Camera
07-19-2013, 01:29 PM
Erdogan blasts West, Arab states for silence on Morsi coup

By REUTER$
07/19/2013 18:08

Turkey denounced "unacceptable coup" after Morsi was removed from power; Egypt's new interim government warned Ankara not to meddle in its affairs.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan accused Western and Arab nations of "double standards" for failing to condemn the overthrow of former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, whose Muslim Brotherhood like Erdogan has Islamist roots.

Turkey has emerged as one of the fiercest international critics of what it has called an "unacceptable coup" after Egypt's powerful military shunted the country's elected leader from office earlier this month.

Although the United States has expressed concern at Morsi's removal and called for a swift return to democracy, as has the European Union, it has stopped short of calling it a coup, which might have led to sanctions.

Gulf Arab states, which see Egypt as a strategic ally against any threat from non-Arab Iran, celebrated his departure with palpable relief.

"Countries which embrace and care about democracy should not behave with double standards towards these kinds of events and should say something is wrong when it is wrong," Erdogan told Western, Arab and other ambassadors late on Thursday.
"Those who extol democracy when they meet with us, saying 'one must not compromise on democracy', we want to see their backbone," Erdogan told his guests at a dinner to break the Muslim Ramadan fast.

Erdogan asked why the world stayed silent over the at least 99 people who have died since Morsi was ousted, more than half of them when troops fired on Islamist protesters on July 8.

"Why aren't you speaking up? Come on, speak up against this. There's no point in being ambivalent," he told the diplomats seated around the room at party headquarters in Ankara.

"If you are not going to speak up here, where are you going you to speak?"

Erdogan was feted by adoring crowds in Arab capitals only two years ago when Turkey seemed set to expand its trade and influence across the region on the back of his support for the protesters of the Arab Spring.

CONTINUED: http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Erdogan-blasts-West-Arab-states-for-silence-on-Morsi-coup-320398

IR5
07-19-2013, 01:42 PM
Mursi supporters march to Defence Ministry, Republican Guard HQ



Islamist demonstrators supporting ousted president Mohamed Mursi organised a march from Rabaa al-Adaweya Mosque in Cairo to the Defence Ministry headquarters on Friday.

http://en.aswatmasriya.com/news/view.aspx?id=5c84fd65-bc79-40e3-9fff-5b94edd816df

Pretty dangerous move, but less dangerous than marching to the anti-Morsi protests in Tahrir. If they keep it peaceful there should be no trouble.


I didn't claim it exists. I brought two sources quoting it, which means it was online in a given moment. If you can not find it, it only proves it is not online anymore and nothing else.

Aswat Masriya is an Egyptian Reut.ers affiliate and follows all of Reut.ers protocols. This means that they will never just take down an article without ever writing a retraction or noting false information.

I can't believe you're so insanely proud and nationalistic that you can't admit that Times of Israel was wrong about something.

Nightsky
07-19-2013, 02:09 PM
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/7876/pfc4.jpg

hmh. I don't think putting your intellectual capacity into pictures was really necessary, but I'm fine with it. Great post, appreciated :-D



Well, Al Youm El Sabe' is actually an unreliable news website, but so far Egyptian sources have been the fastest and most reliable sources of information posted in this thread and, unlike Israeli websites, most of the mainstream ones don't carry unverified news stories from third parties.

Well, the problem is that the military has shut down channels close to MB and other news outlets have switched their reporting into "army line". Granted, the MB is not a single cent more trustworthy, but instead of two propaganda units, we're now left with one. Given the current situation in Egypt all news have to be taken with a grain of salt, but especially these of Egyptian news outlets covering the brotherhood. I am glad that Mursi is gone, but I don't think independent reporting from Egypt is currently possible. Major western news outlet think along the same lines (not allowed to interview soldiers, confiscation of equipment and so on ..). Not saying all is necessarily wrong, but news regarding the current political turmoil and especially MB as an adversary to the military are for sure to be taken with a biiiiig grain of salt (just like Chinese state news outlets on Tibet for instance..).

Camera
07-19-2013, 02:19 PM
Aswat Masriya is an Egyptian Reut.ers affiliate and follows all of Reut.ers protocols. This means that they will never just take down an article without ever writing a retraction or noting false information.

On one hand you said that Aswat Masriya is an unreliable site. On another hand, you say it is reuter s affiliated and won't remove an article without notice.
Make your mind, you contradict yourself.


I can't believe you're so insanely proud and nationalistic that you can't admit that Times of Israel was wrong about something.

It has nothing to do with nationalism. It's all about your failed reasoning.



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New Egypt faces twin struggles: On the streets of Cairo and the sands of SinaiThe war of attrition between Muslim Brotherhood supporters and opponents is interlinked with the military offensive against terrorism
By AVI ISSACHAROFF (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/avi-issacharoff/)

http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-egypt-faces-twin-struggles-on-the-streets-of-cairo-and-the-sands-of-sinai/

An interesting analysis of the challenges that face the Egyptian militaries in Sinai and in the Delta.

Camera
07-19-2013, 02:24 PM
(…)

Well, the problem is that the military has shut down channels close to MB and other news outlets have switched their reporting into "army line". Granted, the MB is not a single cent more trustworthy, but instead of two propaganda units, we're now left with one. Given the current situation in Egypt all news have to be taken with a grain of salt, but especially these of Egyptian news outlets covering the brotherhood. I am glad that Mursi is gone, but I don't think independent reporting from Egypt is currently possible. Major western news outlet think along the same lines (not allowed to interview soldiers, confiscation of equipment and so on ..). Not saying all is necessarily wrong, but news regarding the current political turmoil and especially MB as an adversary to the military are for sure to be taken with a biiiiig grain of salt (just like Chinese state news outlets on Tibet for instance..).

That's what I'm telling him since yesterday. The freedom of media has stepped back and the military control over it is in line with the practices of Mubarak's time.
It remains to see if this situation is temporary or it will tend to become permanent.

m4rs75
07-19-2013, 02:35 PM
The Egyptian army is blocking the streets leading to the Defense Ministry building in Cairo, Al-Arabiya reported on July 19.

IR5
07-19-2013, 02:50 PM
The UK's Daily Mail issues a correction regarding a news story claiming El Sisi was running for President. (Arabic link) (http://gate.ahram.org.eg/News/374216.aspx)


you said that Aswat Masriya is an unreliable site.

Really? Where did I say this, Camera?

Feel free to quote me exactly.

Camera
07-19-2013, 03:07 PM
The UK's Daily Mail issues a correction regarding a news story claiming El Sisi was running for President. (Arabic link) (http://gate.ahram.org.eg/News/374216.aspx)


Really? Where did I say this, Camera?

Feel free to quote me exactly.

Actually, I confused with what you about NOW.

ToI is a very good media and NOW is a main stream Lebanese site. The press, both in Israel and in Lebanon, operates in societies that have a tradition of freedom of press that Egypt simply never had, except for a very short period of time, not long enough to get rooted in your culture.

Hundreds of media were shut down in Egypt by the army and foreign media report that they have difficulties of access to information. The explanation for your impossibility to find a given article should have its explanation in this context.

Now, give me a break.

m4rs75
07-19-2013, 03:56 PM
bla bla .. posting quotes from Egyptian news outlets these days should be placed in the same line with DEBKA. The Guardian just revealed that in all probability it was the army orchestrating the bloodbath leaving 55 MB protestors dead. So I'd advice taking obviously biased sources elsewhere and the military and the remaining Egyptian newspapers obviously are.

Or shall I go and quote some Hamas or Hezbollah outlets regarding Egypt and Syria? Quite probably they're of the same credibility ...
Point out exactly which parts of the Egytian news reports posted by me turned out to be false, or go troll somewhere else.


hmh. I don't think putting your intellectual capacity into pictures was really necessary, but I'm fine with it. Great post, appreciated :-D




http://imageshack.us/a/img194/1253/6bz3.jpg

IR5
07-19-2013, 04:35 PM
Rocket attack kills 2 civilians in Egypt's Sinai: Security


Two civilians were killed and one wounded on Friday when militants fired rockets at an army checkpoint El-Arish in Egypt's restive Sinai peninsula, medical and security sources said.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76897/Egypt/Politics-/Rocket-attack-kills--civilians-in-Egypts-Sinai-Sec.aspx


he press, both in Israel and in Lebanon, operates in societies that have a tradition of freedom of press that Egypt simply never had, except for a very short period of time, not long enough to get rooted in your culture.

First of all, the NOW article you cited also stated that Al Qaeda militants attacked the Egyptian military with "HAWK SAM missiles".

So much for the credibility of your sources.

Secondly, Egypt has had a relatively free press since 2005 and has been fiercely independent and critical of authority ever since. The fact the Mubarak regime failed to force any of Egypt's satellite channels from covering the January 25th protests and Morsi's failed attempts at stifling constant mockery and criticism from the Egyptian media speaks for itself. Even the SCAF didn't escape scathing criticism when it was in power.

More importantly, most of Egypt's mainstream newspapers are regarded by both international and regional journalists to be highly professional and credible. International journalists use information found in Al Masry Al Youm and other Egyptian newspapers all the time.

The same cannot be said of Times of Israel and NOW Lebanon (which, by the way, is a heavily politicized rumor-mill of a website).

Even Al Jazeera Arabic and Al Jazeera English became famous and world-renowned because of the work of their Egyptian journalists (like Yousri Fouda, Ayman Mohyeldin and Sherine Tadros).


Hundreds of media were shut down in Egypt by the army

Really? Do you have a source for "hundreds of media" were shut down by the Egyptian military?

Are you sure it wasn't just the incredibly violent and sectarian religious channels that were calling for violence against protesters and Copts?

Camera
07-19-2013, 04:56 PM
Rocket attack kills 2 civilians in Egypt's Sinai: Security



http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76897/Egypt/Politics-/Rocket-attack-kills--civilians-in-Egypts-Sinai-Sec.aspx



First of all, the NOW article you cited also stated that that AQ militants attacked the Egyptian military with "HAWK SAM missiles".

So much for the credibility of your sources

It's not MY SOURCE. It's an Arab Lebanese source quoting an Egyptian report.


Secondly, Egypt has had a relatively free press since 2005 and has been fiercely independent and critical of authority ever since.

The fact the Mubarak regime failed to force any of Egypt's satellite channels from covering the January 25th protests and Morsi's failed attempts at stifling constant mockery and criticism from the Egyptian media speaks for itself. Even the SCAF didn't escape scathing criticism when it was in power.

More importantly, most of Egypt's mainstream newspapers are regarded by both their international and regional journalists to be professional and credible. International journalists use information found in Al Masry Al Youm and other Egyptian newspapers all the time.

Relatively to what? To Assad's Syria?


The same cannot be said of Times of Israel and NOW Lebanon (which, by the way, is a heavily politicized rumor-mill of a website).

Even Al Jazeera Arabic and Al Jazeera English became famous and world-renowned because of the work of their Egyptian journalists (like Yousri Fouda, Ayman Mohyeldin and Sherine Tadros).

BS.
Though AJ benefitted from the Arab spring to increase its audience, it was already a mainstream broadcaster in all the Arab world.


Really? Do you have a source for "hundreds of media" were shut down by the Egyptian military?

Are you sure it wasn't just the incredibly violent and sectarian religious channels that were calling for violence against protesters and Copts?

There are hundreds of reports about it on the net. Just few:

http://news.yahoo.com/rights-groups-decry-egypt-media-crackdown-180654989.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/04/rights-groups-decry-egypt-crackdown-on-media-considered-pro-morsi/

Nightsky
07-19-2013, 06:29 PM
Point out exactly which parts of the Egytian news reports posted by me turned out to be false, or go troll somewhere else.

yeah, and you prove me that those of yours are accurate. And no, I'm not going down that bull**** road of yours.

But, Mister super troll, I leave you some links here:


Rights groups decry Egyptian media crackdown http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jul/06/ml-egypt-media-crackdown/


Egypt’s New Leaders Press Media to Muzzle Dissent http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/world/middleeast/egypts-new-leaders-press-media-to-muzzle-dissent.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Killing in Cairo: the full story of the Republican Guards' club shootings http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jul/18/cairo-republican-guard-shooting-full-story


Behind Egypt's media crackdown http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/07/2013766381738808.html


Media attacks in Egypt follow familiar pattern http://www.dw.de/media-attacks-in-egypt-follow-familiar-pattern/a-16946909

These are news stories about "freedom of press" in Egypt from British, German and American sources. But yes, probably all biased and it's our Western media, which are oh so censored. Now post some dumb picture and jerk off on it, there's no point in discussions with a broken record - even if it's coming with Mubarak's greatest hits.

Camera
07-19-2013, 07:32 PM
Former bin Laden doctor reportedly heads al Qaeda in the Sinai Peninsula

By DAVID BARNETT July 17, 2013

Egyptian security forces have reportedly arrested a number of jihadists operating in the Sinai Peninsula who are linked to Ramzi Mowafi, a former physician for Osama bin Laden.

CONTINUED: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/07/former_bin_laden_doc.php

IR5
07-19-2013, 09:22 PM
Three dead in Mansoura after pro, anti Morsi protesters clash


Three women were killed Friday during clashes between supporters and opponents of ousted president Mohamed Morsi protesters in Egypt's Nile Delta city of Mansoura, Al-Ahram Arabic news website reported.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76906/Egypt/Politics-/Updated-Three-dead-in-Mansoura-after-pro,-anti-Mor.aspx

Let's hope this doesn't end in revenge killings.


It's not MY SOURCE. It's an Arab Lebanese source quoting an Egyptian report.

It is YOUR source, you're the one who keeps falsely insisting it is accurate despite numerous indications showing otherwise.


Relatively to what? To Assad's Syria?

Relative to virtually every single Arab country. No media in the Arab world went after their governments like Egyptian media went after Mubarak post-2005.


BS.
Though AJ benefitted from the Arab spring to increase its audience, it was already a mainstream broadcaster in all the Arab world.

Wrong. What made Al Jazeera famous regionally and internationally were its interviews with Al Qaeda's highest ranking leaders post-9/11, interviews which were done by Egyptian journalist Yousri Fouda.

Also AJ English's world-renowned coverage of Operation Cast Lead and the Egyptian Revolution were done by Egyptian journalists Ayman Moheiylden and Sherine Tadros (the only two international journalists who were in Gaza during Cast Lead).

Yousri Fouda also moderated the debate between Ahmed Shafiq (Mubarak's last Prime Minister) and Alaa Al Aswany (political thinker/writer and novelist), which led to PM Ahmed Shafiq's resignation only a couple of hours later after Alaa Al Aswany verbally wiped the floor with him live on Egyptian television for all to see.

Show me a similar incident occurring on any other Arab channel.



There are hundreds of reports about it on the net. Just few:

http://news.yahoo.com/rights-groups-decry-egypt-media-crackdown-180654989.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/04/rights-groups-decry-egypt-crackdown-on-media-considered-pro-morsi/

So they shut down a couple of channels that were calling for sectarian and political violence during a time of deep crisis?

Oh, wow. So terrible.

Also where in the link is "hundreds of media outlets were shut down" that you claimed?

m4rs75
07-19-2013, 09:24 PM
yeah, and you prove me that those of yours are accurate. And no, I'm not going down that bull**** road of yours.



You said quoting "Egyptian news outlets these days should be placed in the same line with DEBKA" and offered to "quote some Hamas or Hezbollah outlets" because "probably they're of the same credibility ..." then you fail to point out which parts of the Egyptian news reports you find inaccurate.


But, Mister super troll, I leave you some links here:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jul/06/ml-egypt-media-crackdown/

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/world/middleeast/egypts-new-leaders-press-media-to-muzzle-dissent.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jul/18/cairo-republican-guard-shooting-full-story

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/07/2013766381738808.html

http://www.dw.de/media-attacks-in-egypt-follow-familiar-pattern/a-16946909

These are news stories about "freedom of press" in Egypt from British, German and American sources. But yes, probably all biased and it's our Western media, which are oh so censored. Now post some dumb picture and jerk off on it, there's no point in discussions with a broken record - even if it's coming with Mubarak's greatest hits.
I don't get it. What's your point? Also there's no need to be rude.

IR5
07-19-2013, 09:33 PM
Detained Brotherhood figures moved to heavily-guarded prison


Detained senior Muslim Brotherhood and Islamist figures have been transferred to the maximum security Akrab Prison, south of Cairo, a security source told state news agency MENA.


Members of the Islamist group, which propelled former president Mohamed Morsi to power, had been in custody in Tora Prison, a few kilometres away. They were transferred to Akrab Prison on Friday as a precautionary measure amid maintenance work in the facility where they were kept, the source added.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76893/Egypt/Politics-/Detained-Brotherhood-figures-moved-to-heavilyguard.aspx

Morsi loyalists storm Abbasiya Hospital for Mental illnesses


Tens of Morsi loyalists have stormed Friday the Abbasiya Hospital for Mental illnesses, climbing through the fences before setting camp in the hospital's garden.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76880/Egypt/Politics-/Morsi-loyalists-storm-Abbasiya-Hospital-for-Mental.aspx

How appropriate...

Al-Bundy
07-20-2013, 04:01 AM
Morsi loyalists storm Abbasiya Hospital for Mental illnesses



http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/76880/Egypt/Politics-/Morsi-loyalists-storm-Abbasiya-Hospital-for-Mental.aspx

How appropriate...

Islamist love mentally ill an mentally vulnerable people.

Camera
07-20-2013, 04:19 AM
(…)

It is YOUR source, you're the one who keeps falsely insisting it is accurate despite numerous indications showing otherwise.



Relative to virtually every single Arab country. No media in the Arab world went after their governments like Egyptian media went after Mubarak post-2005.



Wrong. What made Al Jazeera famous regionally and internationally were its interviews with Al Qaeda's highest ranking leaders post-9/11, interviews which were done by Egyptian journalist Yousri Fouda.

Also AJ English's world-renowned coverage of Operation Cast Lead and the Egyptian Revolution were done by Egyptian journalists Ayman Moheiylden and Sherine Tadros (the only two international journalists who were in Gaza during Cast Lead).

Yousri Fouda also moderated the debate between Ahmed Shafiq (Mubarak's last Prime Minister) and Alaa Al Aswany (political thinker/writer and novelist), which led to PM Ahmed Shafiq's resignation only a couple of hours later after Alaa Al Aswany verbally wiped the floor with him live on Egyptian television for all to see.

Show me a similar incident occurring on any other Arab channel.




So they shut down a couple of channels that were calling for sectarian and political violence during a time of deep crisis?
Oh, wow. So terrible.

Also where in the link is "hundreds of media outlets were shut down" that you claimed?

I'm tired with you. All this because you can not find an article that is offline.

A free press relatively to other Arab countries means nothing. The only Arab countries that had a free press was Lebanon and you were never close to it. You never had a free press, it was n ever part of your culture. I remember very well how free were the Egyptian media during the uprising against Mubarak.
And you are going back to the same system, maybe not to the same extent, but it is the same junta with the same governance culture that is back to power.

It does not mean I'm sorry for the Islamists. On the contrary. But in matters of freedom of press you are going down the drain, back again.

Camera
07-20-2013, 04:40 AM
5 killed in Egypt as Morsi supporters, opponents clash


Two women and 13-year-old boy killed in clashes in town of Mansoura; two others killed from rockets fired at army checkpoint in El-Arish

Reuter$

Three Egyptians were killed during clashes between supporters and opponents of deposed President Mohamed Morsi late on Friday, after thousands rallied in Egyptian cities demanding the reinstatement of the Islamist leader.

Two women and a 13-year-old boy were killed and eight others were injured, including one in critical condition, in the clashes that erupted in the Nile Delta town of Mansoura, Health Ministry official Saed Zaghloul told Reuter$.

(…)

Earlier on Friday, two civilians were killed when suspected Islamist militants fired RPG rockets at an army checkpoint in el-Arish in Egypt's restive Sinai peninsula.

The assailants hit a residential house by mistake, and one of those killed had his legs and head blown off in the attack, hospital sources told AFP.

Military helicopters engaged the assailants and the fighting was ongoing, Al Arabiya correspondent reported.

(…)

Early on Saturday, army helicopters were seen dropping Egyptian flags on thousands of Morsi's opponents gathering in Cairo's central Tahrir Square.

Waving their own Egyptian flags, along with portraits of the bearded Morsi, members of the Muslim Brotherhood marched in Cairo, Alexandria and several other cities along the Nile Delta, denouncing what they termed a military coup.

"We are coming out today to restore legitimacy," said Tarek Yassin, 40, who had travelled to Cairo from the southern city of Sohag, underscoring the Brotherhood's deep roots in the provinces. "We consider what happened secular thuggery. It would never happen in any democratic country," he said.

(…)

The top UN human rights official, Navi Pillay, has asked the new Egyptian government to explain both the legal basis for the detentions and to say whether trials were planned.

"We've specifically asked about (Morsi) and his presidential team in addition to others who were arrested. We don't even know how many people at this point," Pillay's spokesman, Rupert Colville, told reporters in Geneva on Friday.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4407268,00.html




At the moment I post this news, Al Masry al-Yum does not report about these clashes in its English edition. :roll:

Camera
07-20-2013, 04:55 AM
Arms sales to Egypt – interactive
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2013/jul/19/arms-sales-egypt-interactive

Following UK's embargo on arms exports to Egypt, the Guardian posted an informative interactive regarding Egypt's arms imports in various categories.

Camera
07-20-2013, 05:06 AM
Investigation could implicate Morsy backers in Giza deaths

Al-Masry Al-Youm (http://www.egyptindependent.com/staff/al-masry-al-youm)

Giza security identified on Friday the corpses of three young men previously found dead early Wednesday in the district of Omraneya following clashes between citizens and supporters of deposed president Mohamed Morsy earlier this week.

Since the Armed Forces removed Morsy from office two weeks ago, Egypt has seen a series of violent episodes that have involved his supporters and opponents as well as security forces.

The dead men were identified as Ahmed Fathy, 30, a technical education graduate, Salem Sayyed, 28, a Tok Tok driver, and Samy Keshk, their friend.

The investigators revealed that they had been *****ped of their clothes except for their underwear, and that the bodies bore marks of burning and stabbing. They said that they had probably been tied from the legs and arms.

Some witnesses told interrogators that Morsy supporters were behind the killing and torture of the victims.

(…)


A security source said an initial investigation had concluded that the trio probably had been killed at Nahd Square, which has been a stage for bloody clashes over the last two weeks. The source added that the victims were possibly tortured in the square before their murderers put them in sacs and threw them near the Saket Mekky subway station, where they were found.

The same source confirmed that the three victims were formerly convicted of robbery and drug-related crimes.

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/investigation-could-implicate-morsy-backers-giza-deaths

Camera
07-20-2013, 03:25 PM
Egyptian security forces raid Cairo office of Iranian TV channel

By REUTER$

CAIRO - Egyptian security forces raided the office of the Iranian Al-Alam Arabic language satellite channel in Cairo and detained its director, the outlet reported on Saturday.

"The security forces also seized equipment and devices from the channel without giving any explanation for these actions," Al-Alam said on its website.

A security source confirmed their account and said the raid was conducted because the channel lacked a license. The incident signaled a return to cooler relations between the two Middle Eastern powers after an attempt at rapprochement under deposed Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Egyptian-security-forces-raid-Cairo-office-of-Iranian-TV-channel-320461

Camera
07-20-2013, 03:28 PM
Report: Egypt prohibits fishing in N. Sinai for security

By JPOST.COM STAFF
LAST UPDATED: 07/20/2013 19:27



Egypt has banned fishing in waters off the coast of the northern Sinai due to security concerns over militants entering Egyptian territory, Palestinian news agency Ma'an reported on Saturday.

The reported cited Egyptian security officials as saying the prohibition had been implemented to prevent Palestinians and members of militant organizations from entering the peninsula by sea.

Egypt has intensified a crackdown on smuggling tunnels between its volatile Sinai desert and the Gaza ***** causing people to increasingly enter Egypt via fishing boats.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Report-Egypt-prohibits-fishing-in-N-Sinai-for-security-320460

Alcaldemb
07-20-2013, 03:40 PM
Report: Egypt prohibits fishing in N. Sinai for security

By JPOST.COM STAFF
LAST UPDATED: 07/20/2013 19:27



Egypt has banned fishing in waters off the coast of the northern Sinai due to security concerns over militants entering Egyptian territory, Palestinian news agency Ma'an reported on Saturday.

The reported cited Egyptian security officials as saying the prohibition had been implemented to prevent Palestinians and members of militant organizations from entering the peninsula by sea.

Egypt has intensified a crackdown on smuggling tunnels between its volatile Sinai desert and the Gaza ***** causing people to increasingly enter Egypt via fishing boats.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Report-Egypt-prohibits-fishing-in-N-Sinai-for-security-320460

Hmm, where is Amnesty International now? HRW? UNHRC?

Camera
07-20-2013, 07:56 PM
Prosecutors investigate Brotherhood assassination claims

Al-Masry Al-Youm (http://www.egyptindependent.com/staff/al-masry-al-youm)

Prosecutors are investigating a claim filed against Muslim Brotherhood leaders accusing them of planning the assassination of Major General Ahmed Wasfy, the commander of the Second Field Army, while he visited Sinai last week.

Essam al-Erian and Mohamed al-Beltagy and Hamas figures have been implicated in the allegations.

The claim named both Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and political bureau chief Khaled Meshaal as responsible for inciting terrorist groups in Sinai to assassinate Wasfy.

Military spokesperson Ahmed Mohamed Ali said Wasfy had been subjected to an assassination attempt in Sheikh Zuwayed after a driver opened fire on the Egyptian army chief's convoy as he passed.

Security forces accompanying Wasfy responded to the attac and stopped the car, where a wounded child was found.

The child was transferred to Arish Public Hospital but died on arrival.

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/prosecutors-investigate-brotherhood-assassination-claims

Apparently pointing at Hamas and its chiefs as trying to terrorize the Egyptians is not an issue anymore.

RedSquirrel
07-21-2013, 08:03 AM
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07-21-2013, 11:07 AM
Hamas reeling from Egyptian crackdown on Gaza tunnels

By REUTER$
07/21/2013 16:23



Hamas economy minister says tunnel closures since June had cost Gaza around $230 million.

GAZA - Palestinians in the Gaza ***** are reeling from another devastating blockade but this time they are blaming Egypt, the neighboring Arab power they once hoped would end their isolation, rather than their old foe Israel.

In a few weeks of digging, dynamiting and drenching, Cairo's troops have destroyed many of the smuggling tunnels that ran under the Egypt-Gaza border and which had provided the cramped coastal enclave with commercial goods as well as weaponry.

The Islamist Hamas government, which taxes much of the traffic through the underground passages, has been hit hard by the losses. Ordinary Palestinians, many of them dependent on UN aid handouts, have seen prices for staple goods skyrocket.

"There is a difficult humanitarian situation in Gaza because of the Egyptian measures on the borders," said Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri. "Most of the tunnels were demolished and the few that remain open are paralyzed."

He likened the crisis to 2007, when Israel, responding to the Hamas takeover of Gaza in a brief civil war with Western-backed Palestinian rivals, clamped down on the territory.

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Ehud Yaari, a Middle East analyst from Israel who has studied the Sinai situation in depth, said that while Egypt had stemmed the flow of weapons into Gaza, it was permitting a measured flow of commercial goods to prevent massive shortfalls.

"When the Egyptians felt there was a shortage of fuel in Gaza, they allowed certain tunnels that carry fuel in to operate for a few days. They are very sensitive to the situation inside Gaza," Yaari said - an observation the Egyptian official declined to confirm or deny.

A diplomat who monitors Gaza agreed that the tunnel closures posed a strategic setback to Hamas's rocket ****nal, which was targeted in an aerial blitz by Israel last November.

Though Hamas has largely observed an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire since then, and kept smaller Gaza factions to the deal as well, the diplomat, who asked not to be identified, predicted that the Islamists would redouble local production of weaponry and try to circumvent the tunnel closures.

"Longer, deeper and well-hidden tunnels could be one of those ways," he said.
Abu Zuhri said Hamas's first concern was providing for the Palestinians' day-to-day needs.
"We are capable of creating alternatives to contend with any crisis," he said. "The ongoing closure of tunnels without making an alternative is practically strangling Gaza."

Hamas has repeatedly but fruitlessly urged Egypt to allow goods to enter through a land corridor. Indeed, at Rafah, the sole passenger terminal on the border, Egypt was on Sunday restricting passage to compassionate cases only. Even that was an improvement on frequent periods in which Rafah was shuttered.

"We are aware of the humanitarian needs in the Gaza *****, and Rafah crossing opens for those who need to travel," the Egyptian official said. "We want people in Gaza to be assured Egypt will never abandon their side and will always be a major supporter of the Palestinian national cause."

CONTINUED: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hamas-reeling-from-Egyptian-crackdown-on-Gaza-tunnels-320534

Everything the people need in Gaza can enter through the passes with Israel but the taxes are collected then by PA. Hamas depends on the smuggling tunnels for its own economy, since it raises taxes on the goods that enter Gaza through this channel. Hopefully Egypt will continue to crack on the tunnels until the collapse of Hamas' rule.

RedSquirrel
07-21-2013, 12:47 PM
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07-21-2013, 02:04 PM
Netanyahu: Morsi fall demonstrates weakness of political Islam





Published:
07.21.13, 20:45 / Israel News (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3082,00.html)











In rare remarks on Egypt's government crisis, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has suggested that the fall of the president, Mohamed Morsi, demonstrates the weaknesses of political Islamist movements.

"I believe that over the long haul these radical Islamic regimes are going to fail because they don't offer the adequate enfranchisement that you need to develop a country economically, politically and culturally," Netanyahu told the German weekly Welt am Sonntag, adding it "goes right back to medievalism against the whole thrust of modernity, so over time it's bound to fail". (Reuter$)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4407895,00.html

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07-21-2013, 02:06 PM
15 Egyptian soldiers killed in army bus crash, 40 injured




CAIRO, Egypt -- A bus carrying Egyptian soldiers crashed into a truck on a highway near the Mediterranean coast early Sunday, killing 16, a security official said.
The accident took place on the highway between Cairo and the port city of Alexandria as the soldiers were heading home from their military base in northwestern Egypt for a vacation to join their families during the holy month of Ramadan, the official said.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/15-egyptian-soldiers-killed-in-army-bus-crash-40-injured-1.1376560

Rest in peace.

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07-21-2013, 02:13 PM
3 policemen shot to death in Egypt's Sinai





Published:
07.21.13, 18:28 / Israel News (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3082,00.html)











An Egyptian security official says snipers have killed three policemen in the volatile Sinai Peninsula.

The official says the coordinated attacks killed police guarding an administrative building, a TV station and a police station in El-Arish, the main city in northern Sinai near the border with Gaza and Israel. (AP)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4407851,00.html

RIP

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07-21-2013, 02:24 PM
Egypt starts amending constitution despite political divisions


CAIRO (*******) - A panel of legal experts started work on Sunday to revise Egypt's Islamist-tinged constitution, a vital first step on the road to fresh elections ordered by the army following its removal of Mohamed Mursi as president.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/egypt-starts-amending-constitution-despite-political-divisions-160734332.html

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07-21-2013, 03:48 PM
Rocket hits open area in Eshkol; none injured





Published:
07.21.13, 22:37 / Israel News (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3082,00.html)











A rocket exploded in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. A Red Alert siren sounded in the area.
Security forces are canvassing the area to locate the rocket. (Ilana Curiel)

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07-21-2013, 06:13 PM
‘Egypt’s army ready to launch Sinai operation’

By ARIEL BEN SOLOMON (http://www.jpost.com/Authors/AuthorPage.aspx?id=195)
07/21/2013 18:35



Cairo closes off routes in and out of the peninsula in an effort to thwart further terrorist attacks on security checkpoints.

The Egyptian army is strengthening its presence in Sinai and trying to close off routes in and out of the region while it continues to destroy tunnels that connect with Gaza, according to a report by the Egyptian paper Al-Masry Al-Youm on Sunday.

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A boat carrying 10 Palestinians was recently intercepted by the Egyptian coast guard and four of them belong to a jihadist group in Gaza, according to Egyptian officials.

Ongoing terrorist attacks in Sinai continued on Sunday with gunmen attacking security checkpoints in El- Arish by firing three Grad rockets, killing and injuring a number of people according to a report by the Egyptian State Information Service.

Meanwhile, Egyptian security forces arrested a terrorist who attacked a checkpoint on Sunday using automatic weapons. Apache helicopters helped locate and apprehend the terrorist, according to the Daily News Egypt.

Sources told the Egyptian paper El-Watan that this week will be decisive regarding military operations in Sinai and that more than 10 operations will be initiated after various sites have been monitored in preparation.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egypt-army-ready-to-commence-Sinai-operation-amid-more-attacks-by-Islamists-320550 (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egypt-army-ready-to-commence-Sinai-operation-amid-more-attacks-by-Islamists-320550)

PATTO
07-21-2013, 07:24 PM
Cairo: Egypt's military-backed interim government put on a “business as usual” show on Sunday, announcing that a panel of legal experts had begun working on the country's constitution, while diplomats fanned out across Africa in an attempt to repair its frayed relations with the African Union.

But the turmoil across Egypt showed no signs of easing, with the country's vulnerable population of tens of thousands of Syrian refugees, previously welcomed by the government of deposed president Mohamed Mursi now the latest group to face open hostility from triumphant anti-Muslim Brotherhood forces.


“Taxi drivers are always asking us if we are Syrian, they are judging us by our looks"

Accused of supporting the Brotherhood and participating en-masse in pro-Mursi demonstrations - allegations the community denies - the racially-charged rhetoric directed against Syrians and Palestinians from some TV stations has translated directly into hostility on the streets, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees warned.

Egypt's new government is attempting to distance itself from the foreign policies of Dr Mursi, who appeared to condone Egyptians travelling to Syria to fight against the regime of President Bashar al-Assad and allowed Egypt become a hub for opposition fighters and refugees.

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Although interim foreign minister Nabil Fahmy met representatives from the opposition Syrian National Coalition over the weekend and confirmed Egypt remained committed to the revolution, he said the government was reviewing Dr Mursi's decision to cut all diplomatic ties with the Assad regime.

The UNHCR has registered almost 72,000 Syrian refugees in Egypt, and while another 18,000 are awaiting registration there are many more living in the community. The Government estimates that around 250,000 to 300,000 Syrian nationals live in Egypt.

Their status changed suddenly on July 3, when the Egyptian military, which says it was acting on the will of the millions who called for Dr Mursi's downfall, stepped in and forced the government from power.

Several flights carrying refugees from Syria were turned back from Egyptian airports while new visa requirements forced Syrians to apply for a visa and security clearance before leaving for Egypt – an impossible ask given the Egyptian Embassy in Damascus is not able to issue visas at the moment.

A presenter on one privately-run television station broadcast that Syrians had just 48 hours before they would be driven from their homes. It was not true, but the climate of fear was palpable, prompting the Arab Organisation for Human Rights to accuse elements of the Egyptian media of conducting a “hostile campaign” against Palestinian and Syrian refugees.

The UNHCR regional representative in Cairo, Mohamed Dayri, said he was heartened by the foreign minister's statements indicating that the new visa requirements were temporary.

But many Syrians living in Egypt were becoming increasingly anxious about their status, Mr Dayri said, and were often too afraid to check in with authorities about their papers.

Such is the concern within the Syrian community both in Cairo and Egypt's second city Alexandria that registrations with the UN have increased from 200 per day prior to June 30 to more than 1000 per day, he said.

Mr Dayri called on the interim government to make a public statement in the hope that it would dampen the media rhetoric against Syrians.

“Here they used to love Syrians but in the last few months, even before the collapse of the Ikwan [Muslim Brotherhood] they started with the propaganda,” said 26-year-old filmmaker Bassem Nabhan, who left Syria for Dubai at the beginning of the revolution and came to Cairo six months ago.

“They were saying Syrians are taking your jobs, they distributed flyers around 6th of October City where lots of Syrians live.

“Taxi drivers are always asking us if we are Syrian, they are judging us by our looks – I have a little black beard so people are thinking maybe I am Ikwan, but I am not, we are not that conservative.”

Mr Nabhan does not identify as a refugee but an expat living in Egypt who works and pays rent.

“For me and most of the Syrians here now, we are used to an uncomfortable way of living, we are used to feeling that there is always a danger around us, always on our nerves.”

His friend and fellow filmmaker and musician, 30-year-old Mohamed Tayarra, said the change of heart about Syrians in Egypt didn't make sense.

“Just because you support the revolution in Syria does not make you Ikwan,” he said. “The Syrian revolution started as a non-violent revolution ... then some Islamists came from outside - most of the people on the street are not pro-Islamist and these fighters are not even Syrian.

“For us as Syrians, we just want to live in peace with all sects and religions.”


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/syrians-in-egypt-feel-the-chill-of-mursis-ouster-20130722-2qd7n.html#ixzz2Zj289bMz

Unforseen backlash?

EITAN88
07-21-2013, 09:35 PM
Six Egyptians were killed and 11 others wounded in several attacks by militants in the Sinai peninsula near Egypt's borders with Israel and the Palestinian Gaza *****, medical sources said on Monday.

Two civilians, two army officers and two policemen were killed in at least 10 attacks in the province's main northern cities of Rafah and El-Arish overnight against police stations and security and army checkpoints, according to the sources.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Six-killed-in-militant-attacks-in-Egypts-Sinai-320607

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07-22-2013, 04:28 AM
Six Egyptians were killed and 11 others wounded in several attacks by militants in the Sinai peninsula near Egypt's borders with Israel and the Palestinian Gaza *****, medical sources said on Monday.

Two civilians, two army officers and two policemen were killed in at least 10 attacks in the province's main northern cities of Rafah and El-Arish overnight against police stations and security and army checkpoints, according to the sources.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Six-killed-in-militant-attacks-in-Egypts-Sinai-320607

It's the heaviest toll since the military coup. Up to now, hours later, Al-Masry al-Youm does not report these attacks on its English site.

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07-22-2013, 02:03 PM
Morsi's family threatens legal action against Egypt army

By REUTER$
07/22/2013 16:36



Family of Egypt's ousted president accuses military of abduction, says "there is no legal or constitutional basis."

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Morsis-family-threatens-legal-action-against-Egypt-army-over-abduction-320654

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07-22-2013, 02:09 PM
Egyptian TV reports one killed, seven injured in Cairo clashes

By REUTER$
07/22/2013 19:19



CAIRO - An Egyptian man was killed and seven were injured in clashes on Monday between supporters and opponents of the ousted President Mohamed Morsi, state television reported.

The opposing camps threw stones and shot fireworks at each other near Cairo's Tahrir square as security forces fired tear gas to try to disperse them, witnesses said.r


http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Egyptian-TV-reports-one-killed-seven-injured-in-Cairo-clashes-320665

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07-22-2013, 02:15 PM
EU calls for Morsi's release, democratic elections in Egypt

By REUTER$
07/22/2013 19:53



BRUSSELS - The European Union called on Monday for the release of ousted Egyptian president Mohamed Morsi and demanded democratic elections as soon as possible.

Morsi has been held at an undisclosed military facility since the Egyptian army removed him from office on July 3 and suspended the constitution in the wake of street protests against his one-year rule.

The army says Islamist Morsi is being held for his own safety.

EU foreign ministers meeting in Brussels issued a statement with a list of priorities for Egypt, including an end to politically motivated arrests and the release of all political detainees, including Morsi.

Bearpit
07-22-2013, 05:35 PM
MB must have been wetting their pants when they saw this infinite blob of angry folks crawling up to the presidential palace. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqVL4978BAY

Menes
07-22-2013, 05:55 PM
MB fires at anti-Morsi protesters in Tahrir, killing three.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbI7owEz8HM

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07-22-2013, 08:33 PM
Egypt: 4 Killed in Political Clashes

By KAREEM FAHIM (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/kareem_fahim/index.html)

At least two people were killed Monday as supporters and opponents of former President Mohamed Morsi (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/mohamed_morsi/index.html?inline=nyt-per)battled near Tahrir Square in Cairo using firearms and rocks, according to witnesses and the Interior Ministry. In similar clashes in the Qalyubia governorate, north of Cairo, at least two people were killed, according to a ministry spokesman.

The threat of violence has intensified over the past week as Mr. Morsi’s supporters have escalated their protests against Egypt’s military, which deposed Mr. Morsi on July 3 after mass protests against his rule. Mr. Morsi has not been seen since his ouster, when he was taken into military custody, along with several of his aides. At a news conference on Monday in Cairo, Mr. Morsi’s children, claiming that he had been “abducted,” said they intended to take legal action against the military to challenge his nearly three-week detention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/23/world/middleeast/egypt-4-killed-in-political-clashes.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

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07-23-2013, 06:07 AM
Death toll from Cairo clash climbs to six

By REUTER$
07/23/2013 11:58



CAIRO - Six people were killed early on Tuesday in violence in Cairo near a sit-in by supporters of deposed President Mohamed Mursi, the state run Al-Ahram newspaper's website reported, quoting a health ministry official.

At least 33 people were also injured in the clashes near the Muslim Brotherhood protest at Cairo University, Al-Ahram quoted Khaled al-Khateeb, the ministry official, as saying.

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07-23-2013, 06:09 AM
Report: Unidentified gunmen shoot, kill Egyptian police officer in Sinai

By JPOST.COM STAFF
07/23/2013 10:47

Unidentified gunmen fatally shot an Egyptian police officer was shot dead in Sinai on Tuesday as he walked home, Palestinian news agency Ma'an reported.

According to the report, gunmen pulled up in a truck without number plates and shot the officer several times in the chest, officials told Ma'an.

Paramedics evacuated the body to a public hospital in El-Arish.

Egyptian troops clashed (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-One-dead-seven-injured-in-renewed-Cairo-clashes-320666) with militants in El-Arish overnight, with no injuries reported.

PATTO
07-23-2013, 10:43 AM
A Muslim Brotherhood leader has called on Egyptians to lay siege to the United States Embassy in Cairo to protest against what he said was American support for the ouster of Islamist president Mohammed Mursi.
Daily protests by the deposed leader's backers risk undermining the interim government's plan to return to elected civilian rule. Violence at dawn on Tuesday in Tahrir, the heart of the 2011 revolt that toppled Hosni Mubarak, and nearby Giza injured 19 people, the state-run Middle East News Agency reported.
One person was killed on Monday and seven injured in clashes between Mr Mursi's supporters and opponents in Tahrir Square near the embassy and on a nearby bridge, state-run media reported, after Essam El-Erian told Muslim Brotherhood supporters that US diplomats must leave Egypt without harm.
http://m.smh.com.au/world/muslim-brotherhood-calls-for-siege-of-us-embassy-20130723-2qhkt.html

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07-23-2013, 12:13 PM
At least six die in Cairo violence, 2 killed in Sinai


CAIRO - Six people were killed in Cairo on Tuesday in clashes between opponents and Islamist supporters of Egypt’s deposed President Mohamed Mursi, state-run media reported, keeping the most populous Arab nation in turmoil.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2013/07/23/20993656.html

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07-23-2013, 05:56 PM
US Senate plan would keep aid to Egypt, with conditions

By REUTER$
07/23/2013 20:22

WASHINGTON - The US Senate panel in charge of foreign aid proposed on Tuesday that funds sent to Egypt be kept at current levels, but that military aid be divided into four parts and conditions set on it, including that the Cairo government hold a democratic election.

The Senate State and Foreign Operations Appropriations Subcommittee approved the $1.3 billion in military aid to Egypt and $250 million in economic assistance that US President Barack Obama requested for fiscal 2014, which starts October 1, matching this year's level despite upheaval in the most populous Arab nation.

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07-23-2013, 09:52 PM
Explosion at Egypt security building injures 16Police surround building in Nile Delta city and exchange fire with unidentified gunmen inside, security sources say
http://www.timesofisrael.com/explosion-at-egypt-security-building-injures-16/

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07-24-2013, 04:46 AM
Palestinians in Gaza fire rockets at southNo reports of injuries or damage as projectiles slam into Eshkol region
By TIMES OF ISRAEL STAFF (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/times-of-israel-staff/)

http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-in-gaza-fire-rockets-at-south/

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07-24-2013, 07:20 AM
Egyptian army chief calls for street protests

Egypt's army chief has called for demonstrations on Friday to give the military a mandate to confront "violence and potential terrorism".

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In a speech at a military graduation ceremony, which was broadcast on television, Gen Sisi said: "I urge the people to take to the streets this coming Friday to prove their will and give me, the army and police, a mandate to confront possible violence and terrorism."

Gen Sisi, who is also the defence minister in the new government, rejected rumours about divisions within the army ranks. "I swear by God that the Egyptian army is united," he said.

Referring to the army's intervention to remove Mr Morsi early this month, Gen Sisi said: "I urged the former president to be a president for all Egyptians".

And, recalling the 2012 presidential election when Mr Morsi was voted into office, he said that he had advised Islamists not to field a presidential candidate - but that they had ignored him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23434809

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07-24-2013, 07:31 AM
12 Die in Clashes in Egypt as New Leaders Find Security Elusive


CAIRO — A long night of political bloodshed in Egypt left at least 12 people dead on Tuesday, wounded 86 and seemed to dispel any notion that the military’s ouster of President Mohamed Morsi nearly three weeks ago would quickly provide the security that Egypt’s generals covet.

The death toll was the highest in a single stretch since July 8, when at least 62 people were killed by gunfire from soldiers and police officers who shot at a group of Mr. Morsi’s supporters.

Images of the latest fighting between Mr. Morsi’s supporters and opponents, which began on Monday, were jarring. Civilians, including a well-known actor, were seen firing weapons during running battles near Cairo landmarks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/24/world/middleeast/egypt.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

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07-24-2013, 07:34 AM
Explosion at Egypt security building injures 16

Police surround building in Nile Delta city and exchange fire with unidentified gunmen inside, security sources say

http://www.timesofisrael.com/explosion-at-egypt-security-building-injures-16/

Mansoura bomb blast kills police conscript

Al-Masry Al-Youm (http://www.egyptindependent.com/staff/al-masry-al-youm)

One police officer was killed and 29 others were injured in an attack on a Mansoura police station in Daqahlia early Wednesday, according to security and Health Ministry officials.

CONTINUED: http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/mansoura-bomb-blast-kills-police-conscript

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07-24-2013, 07:40 AM
Morsy interrogated in prison break case

Al-Masry Al-Youm (http://www.egyptindependent.com/staff/al-masry-al-youm)

The interrogation of ousted President Mohamed Morsy in the case of the Wadi al-Natroun prison break, which took place during the events of the 25 January 2011 revolution, began Monday.

Morsy and other Muslim Brotherhood leaders escaped the Wadi al-Natroun prison at the time, according to the investigation. They now face charges of contacting foreign elements, in particular members of Hamas, to break into the prison and free them.

Samir Hassan, the judge in charge of the investigation, questioned Morsy at the place at which he is being held.

CONTINUED: http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/morsy-interrogated-prison-break-case

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07-24-2013, 12:29 PM
Egypt's top soldier urges mass demonstrations to boost army 'mandate'


CAIRO, Egypt -- Egypt's military chief on Wednesday called on his countrymen to hold mass demonstrations to voice their support for the army and police to deal with potential "violence and terrorism," a move that signals a stepped up campaign against supporters of the ousted Islamist president. Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, addressing a graduation ceremony for a class of military cadets, urged Egyptians to take to the streets Friday, saying a massive turnout would give him a "mandate" and an "order" to do what is "necessary" to stop bloodshed.


http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/egypt-s-top-soldier-urges-mass-demonstrations-to-boost-army-mandate-1.1380967

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07-24-2013, 03:41 PM
Sinai car bomb kills three militantsExplosion near police camp in El-Arish thought to be premature attack; violence spreads to cities
http://www.timesofisrael.com/sinai-car-bomb-kills-three-militants/

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07-24-2013, 03:45 PM
Egypt orders arrest of Brotherhood leaders

Al Arabiya

Egypt’s public prosecutor ordered the arrest of Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed Badie and eight senior members of the Islamist movement on Wednesday, MENA state news agency reported.The arrest warrant for Badie and the senior Islamist officials were for a probe over accusations of inciting violence.

Badie had been detained for questioning and later released following the army's decision to oust Islamist President Mohammed Mursi, who hails from the Brotherhood, on July 3, Reuter$ reported.

Meanwhile, Egyptian army chief General Abdel Fatah al-Sisi called on Wednesday for demonstration in support of a crackdown on “terrorism and violence.” Islamists denounced Sisi’s statement and said it was a call to “civil war” ahead of their own rallies.There has been rising tension following the military’s ouster of Mursi. The army chief’s call for protests increases the chances of further violence in the country between pro- and anti-Mursi citizens.

(With Reuter$)

Menes
07-25-2013, 07:13 AM
Tomorrow, Egypt may witness the largest mass protest in human history.

TG211
07-25-2013, 07:45 AM
Tomorrow, Egypt may witness the largest mass protest in human history.

Of one side only or of both ? I'd be more impressed if it's only 1 side. Would settle once and for all whose side is the most popular.

Menes
07-25-2013, 01:27 PM
Of one side only or of both ? I'd be more impressed if it's only 1 side. Would settle once and for all whose side is the most popular.
Mass protests against MB.

Menes
07-25-2013, 01:30 PM
Egypt army gives Brotherhood 48 hours to join roadmap: official

Egypt's army gave the Muslim Brotherhood until Saturday afternoon to sign up to political reconciliation, a military official said on Thursday, after the army issued a veiled threat to use tougher tactics against the group.

http://www.*******.com/article/2013/07/25/us-egypt-protests-army-ultimatum-idUSBRE96O13R20130725

Another 48 hour ultimatum..

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07-25-2013, 03:11 PM
Hamas shuts down Al Arabiya, other media offices in Gaza

By REUTER$
07/25/2013 20:16



Security forces also closed down Palestinian news agency Maan.

Gaza's Islamist rulers Hamas closed the offices of three media companies, including the Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television and Palestinian news agency Maan, on Thursday, employees and a Hamas spokesman said.

Al Arabiya and Maan employees said Hamas security men had arrived at their offices with an order from the attorney general to shut down immediately and a Hamas spokesman said the step was temporary, until an investigation was concluded.

"The attorney general received complaints, including from the Ministry of Information, that Al Arabiya and Maan reported false news, fabrications and lies," said Hamas government spokesman Ehab al-Ghsain.

Ghsain did not single out any news reports, but Hamas officials have in the past few days criticized coverage by Al Arabiya and Maan of the Islamist group's tense relations with Egypt's new rulers as "damaging" to the Palestinian people.

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Apart from Al Arabiya and Maan, Ghsain said the office of a Gaza-based production company called Lens was shut for "collaboration with Zionist media.” An employee of Lens said it had been contracted to report for a new news channel based in Israel.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Hamas-shuts-down-Al-Arabiya-other-media-offices-in-Gaza-321078

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07-25-2013, 03:19 PM
Two more Egyptian soldiers killed in Sinai

Incident follows attempted car bomb attack and assaults on checkpoints on Wednesday


By LAZAR BERMAN (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/lazar-berman/) and AP (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/ap/)

The wave of violence sweeping across Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula continued Thursday, as suspected Islamic militants killed two soldiers and wounded four others in a shooting attack on a military checkpoint.

The attack took place near the northern Sinai town of Sheikh Zuweid, the latest in a series of such incidents since the July 3 ouster of President Mohammed Morsi.

CONTINUED: http://www.timesofisrael.com/two-more-egyptian-soldiers-killed-in-sinai/

Telmar
07-25-2013, 03:48 PM
Two more Egyptian soldiers killed in Sinai

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I'd say they are seeking to demoralize the troops. Make them feel it is not worth it, and desolidarize them from high command.

OrangeWolf
07-26-2013, 02:50 PM
Vice on protests in Egypt, pretty interesting (there are three parts):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2yaNhK4PCE

Menes
07-26-2013, 03:29 PM
El Sisi, Nasser, Khrushchev and Putin's posters at Alexandria during anti-terror protests.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQGkgDKCcAAZKm2.jpg:large

EITAN88
07-26-2013, 03:33 PM
El Sisi, Nasser, Khrushchev and Putin's posters at Alexandria during anti-terror protests.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQGkgDKCcAAZKm2.jpg:large

I guess that even secular Egypt is shying away from the West after Obama's puzsyfooting.

Alcaldemb
07-26-2013, 03:53 PM
I guess that even secular Egypt is shying away from the West after Obama's puzsyfooting.

Well, Obama has no one to blame but himself. He should have just kept quiet.

Camera
07-26-2013, 04:35 PM
Five dead in Alexandria clashes as turmoil rages across Egypt

By REUTER$ LAST UPDATED: 07/26/2013 23:23



Hundreds of thousands rally in Egypt after report of probe on ousted president Morsi for charges including murder; more than 50 reportedly wounded in fighting in Egypt's second city.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Four-dead-amid-clashes-between-Morsi-supporters-opponents-in-Egypt-321174

Hisroyalhighness
07-26-2013, 04:44 PM
Vice on protests in Egypt, pretty interesting (there are three parts):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2yaNhK4PCE
Vice always has excellent content, thanks for posting.

Menes
07-26-2013, 04:48 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQIJxIWCMAEcWNH.jpg:large

Menes
07-26-2013, 05:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQIPrzHCMAEYt2i.jpg:large

Menes
07-26-2013, 05:12 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQH1hLUCMAA5R3a.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQIQsPBCcAAIB-a.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQHMfrfCUAArdGJ.jpg:large

Menes
07-26-2013, 05:40 PM
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/8CIc0Kg4AD6vm0Xw_GGdEQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTcxMDtweW9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/d925cd91ff6caf18380f6a706700fb04.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQHnnySCUAAcbZg.jpg:large

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/07/26/Foreign/Images/03802573.jpg

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/0vFtHKQgeIlYFf6Gu00KHg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY0MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/9a306e90fecfac18380f6a706700f82b.jpg

Menes
07-26-2013, 05:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQGZbOdCMAAo27h.jpg:large

Hisroyalhighness
07-26-2013, 05:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQHnnySCUAAcbZg.jpg:large

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/07/26/Foreign/Images/03802573.jpg


Incredible, thanks for posting Menes.

Camera
07-26-2013, 07:14 PM
Interior Minister vows to ban pro-Morsi protests

By REUTER$
07/27/2013 01:45

Sit-in protests in Cairo by supporters of Egypt's deposed Islamist president will be "brought to an end soon and in a legal manner," interim Interior Minister Mohamed Ibrahim was quoted as saying by state-run news website Al Ahram.

Ibrahim said the protests would be cleared in line with complaints filed by residents in the area. Supporters of deposed leader Muhamed Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood have been manning two main vigils in the capital for a month, demanding Morsi be reinstated after his July 3 overthrow by the army.



http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Interior-Minister-vows-to-ban-pro-Morsi-protests-321180

Menes
07-26-2013, 07:18 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1000210_500723153335423_1175785319_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/182933_570004416369187_538313444_n.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQIqDxdCQAEy_EM.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQGOustCcAAPqda.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQG1ijnCEAMb2XD.jpg:large

Menes
07-26-2013, 07:19 PM
Egypt's new national hero?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EeySSRUB9w

Al-Bundy
07-26-2013, 07:28 PM
No matter who takes power it is doomed to fail and be hated. The Islamist just fail faster and harder because they focus on religious BS that make the country's problems 10X time worse.

Eu countries with financial problems after years of recession struggle despite Eu money. In Egypt's case ... they need a miracle. I don't see that happening.

Hisroyalhighness
07-26-2013, 07:57 PM
5 Killed, Over 140 Injured in Rallies in Egypt’s Alexandria (http://en.rian.ru/world/20130727/182446306/5-Killed-Over-140-Injured-in-Rallies-in-Egypts-Alexandria.html)
DUBAI, July 27 (RIA Novosti) - Five people were killed and 146 injured during Friday’s clashes between supporters and opponents of ousted president Mohamed Morsi in Egypt's second largest city of Alexandria, local media reported.

According to media reports, one of the victims was stabbed in the back during a mass demonstration and another died as a result of a gun wound, while it was unclear how three others were killed.

Al Jazeera reported that also on Friday tens of thousands of people gathered in Cairo streets mainly on the Tahrir square and outside the presidential palace, but demonstrations in the Egyptian capital were peaceful in comparison with Alexandria.

The Egyptian army deposed Morsi, who narrowly won the country’s first free presidential election last June with 51.7 percent of the vote,following mass nationwide protests against the rule of the Islamist president. (http://en.rian.ru/video/20130701/181981084/Millions-Rally-Against-Egyptian-President.html)

His current whereabouts remain unknown, but he is rumored to be kept in an undisclosed military location.

Menes
07-26-2013, 09:21 PM
Video of a demonstrator bending over to allow the army helicopter pass over him!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuaUiCA3KhY

ImpNavigator
07-27-2013, 01:46 AM
El Sisi, Nasser, Khrushchev and Putin's posters at Alexandria during anti-terror protests.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQGkgDKCcAAZKm2.jpg:large

Thanks! Very nice to see this :)

EITAN88
07-27-2013, 02:14 AM
Muslim Brotherhood claim's 55 killed in army attack on Tahrir


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4410101,00.html

EITAN88
07-27-2013, 02:55 AM
Unconfirmed reports by Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood claim 80 protesters were killed, 3,000 injured in army attack on pro-Morsi sit-in. Interior Minister says demonstrations to be ended 'within the framework of the law'. Nine killed, 72 injured in Alexandria Friday

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4410101,00.html

Vorph
07-27-2013, 03:40 AM
Egypt crisis: 'Scores killed' at Cairo protest

More than 100 people are reported to have been killed in Cairo at a protest held by supporters of ousted Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi.

Clashes are still taking place around the Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque and there is blood on the streets, says the BBC's Quentin Sommerville at the scene.

A doctor at a field hospital close to the protest said that in addition to the dead, more than 1,000 were injured.

Both pro- and anti-Morsi supporters had been holding huge protests overnight.

Many thousands occupied Cairo's Tahrir Square in support of the army, which removed Mr Morsi from office earlier this month.

Army chief Gen Abdel Fattah al-Sisi had urged people to take to the streets to give the military a mandate for its intervention.

It is not yet clear whether the clashes around the mosque represent a concerted effort by the security forces to clear the area.

Early on Saturday, Interior Minister Mohammed Ibrahim had vowed to end the sit-in at the mosque.
He said local residents had complained about the encampment and that the protest would be "brought to an end soon and in a legal manner".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23474645

Christ when I went to bed 9 hours ago it was 5 dead... **** is really hitting the fan now.

Camera
07-27-2013, 04:25 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23474645

Christ when I went to bed 9 hours ago it was 5 dead... **** is really hitting the fan now.

Same for me. It was 5 killed in Alexandria and there was nothing about Cairo.

Menes
07-27-2013, 05:02 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23474645

Christ when I went to bed 9 hours ago it was 5 dead... **** is really hitting the fan now.
MB figures are exaggerated to gain sympathy.

There were 29 killed during fierce clashes when MB tried to cut October bridge.

Dexx
07-27-2013, 05:10 AM
For me, as a foreigner, it seems like the Egyptians cannot live without their miliatry at the helm: Nasser, Sadat, Mubarak and now Sisi. It will be interesting to see, if he gives his power back to the people through elections of civil politicians.

Camera
07-27-2013, 06:45 AM
Such incidents play into the hand of the Islamists. The army should learn to use rubber bullets against protestors and keep the live bullets against the terrorists in Sinai.

Fade
07-27-2013, 02:32 PM
Egyptian security forces kill dozens of pro-Mursi supporters in Cairo


CAIRO - Egyptian security forces shot dead dozens of supporters of ousted Islamist President Mohamed Mursi on Saturday, witnesses said, days after the army chief called for a popular mandate to wipe out "violence and terrorism".

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2013/07/27/21004891.html

TheEvian100
07-27-2013, 02:48 PM
It's difficult to believe the media's twist... that those "protesters" didn't do anything serious enough to attract gunfire.

Camera
07-27-2013, 03:00 PM
Egyptian military launches major Sinai offensive

48-hour operation ‘Desert Storm’ aims to crush terrorist activity in the restive peninsula

By ADIV STERMAN (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/adiv-sterman/) and LAZAR BERMAN (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/lazar-berman/)

The Egyptian army on Saturday launched a wide-scale operation against terrorists in the northern Sinai, Egyptian media reports said. Operation “Desert Storm,” aimed at eliminating terrorist activity in the peninsula, will reportedly continue over the next two days.

Military personnel from two field armies were reported to have begun blocking roads, bridges and tunnels leading from northern Sinai to other Egyptian regions. The Egyptian Navy and Air Force were also taking part in the operation.

According to Egyptian intelligence, there are at least 500 armed extremists operating in the peninsula, Al Ahram reported.

Since the ouster of Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi earlier this month, a wave of violence has swept across the Sinai. On Thursday, terrorists killed two soldiers and wounded four others in a shooting attack on a military checkpoint.

On Wednesday, a car bomb detonated near a police training camp close to the northern Sinai city of el-Arish, killing three militants.

Also in the north of Sinai on Wednesday, Islamists attacked security checkpoints in el-Arish and Sheikh Zuweid, killing a civilian and a soldier. Three troops were wounded, security officials said.

Altogether, a total of 17 members of the security forces and at least five civilians have been killed in the area since the July 3 overthrow.

The Muslim Brotherhood has denied playing a part in the escalating violence, but one of the group’s leaders was quoted by RIA Novosti as saying that the insurgent attacks would end as soon as “the legitimate president” is freed from detention.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/egyptian-military-launches-major-sinai-offensive/

EITAN88
07-27-2013, 05:35 PM
A Health Ministry official says at least 65 people have been killed in clashes in the Egyptian capital between police and supporters of the country's ousted President Mohamed Morsi.

It is the highest death toll in a single incident since the military ousted Morsi on July 3 following days of mass protests against him.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4410315,00.html

Laker1
07-27-2013, 05:38 PM
For sure the army will not allow the MB to be part of the new government.

Camera
07-27-2013, 07:28 PM
Hamas condemns Egyptian authorities' decision to charge Morsi with links to movement

By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
07/27/2013 21:36



Egypt warns Haniyeh: Keep out of internal Egyptian affairs.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hamas-condemns-Egyptian-authorities-decision-to-charge-Morsi-with-links-to-movement-321214

Hisroyalhighness
07-27-2013, 07:51 PM
UN Chief Condemns Egypt Violence as Death Toll Climbs to 80 (http://en.rian.ru/world/20130728/182457875/UN-Chief-Condemns-Egypt-Violence-as-Death-Toll-Climbs-to-80.html)
NEW YORK, July 27 (RIA Novosti) - United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has condemned the most recent surge of violence in Egypt where at least 80 people were killed in clashes between police and protesters in the past two days.

“The Secretary-General strongly condemns the upsurge of violence in Egypt that has left scores dead and hundreds injured, following protests on Friday and Saturday,” Ban’s press office said in a statement on Saturday.

According to the Egyptian Health Ministry, 72 people were killed and 292 injured in Cairo, while eight people were killed and at least 194 injured in Alexandria.

The UN chief called on Egypt authorities to “act with full respect for human rights, including guaranteeing the rights to free speech and assembly.” At the same time he urged the demonstrators to “to exercise restraint and preserve the peaceful nature of their protests.”

Ban also reiterated his previous calls for immediate release of the country’s deposed President Mohammed Morsi and eight Muslim Brotherhood leaders, who are currently in detention by the Egyptian military on charges of conspiracy and murder.

The Egyptian army deposed Morsi, who narrowly won the country’s first free presidential election last June with 51.7 percent of the vote, following mass nationwide protests against the rule of the Islamist president.

His current whereabouts remain unknown, but he is rumored to be transferred soon to a Cairo prison where former Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak is being held.

Earlier in July, at least 51 people were killed and 435 injured in violent clashes outside the elite Republican Guards' headquarters in Cairo where Morsi was believed to be held at the time.

It's all going to hell in a hand basket.

Hisroyalhighness
07-27-2013, 09:54 PM
FLIR Footage Shows Morsi Supporters' Violence 27/7/2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmhhPk19qA4

Location, Nasr St, near 6th October bridge entrance. Kilometers away from Muslim Brotherhood sit in. Early Morning and after.


Clashes between pro Morsi & Police 27/7/2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JW86ozLc9s

Location, Nasr St, near 6th October bridge entrance. Kilometers away from Muslim Brotherhood sit in.

great oz
07-27-2013, 09:55 PM
How many supporters does morsi have in terms of % ?

OrangeWolf
07-28-2013, 02:05 AM
It's difficult to believe the media's twist... that those "protesters" didn't do anything serious enough to attract gunfire.

On the Vice documentary you can see some are pretty violent indeed...

Siempre_Leal
07-28-2013, 03:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wwvss3G17M

Laworkerbee
07-28-2013, 04:38 PM
The overnight violence came a day after prosecutors said they were investigating the former president on allegations of espionage and murder, and millions took to the streets to heed the military’s call for Egyptians to give the armed forces the popular “mandate” to combat “terrorism.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypt-steps-up-battle-against-morsi-supporters-with-investigation-clashes/2013/07/27/032cae80-f699-11e2-9434-60440856fadf_story.html

Good idea! Give your military another mandate to suppress your rights for another twenty years.

A democratically elected government has been removed in a coup, the party and its supporters are now on their way to being declared criminal, and unarmed people are being shot down in the street.

And yet my country continues to fund this circus.

Camera
07-28-2013, 05:05 PM
Ten killed in Sinai anti-terror offensive

Egyptian forces working to root out hundreds of armed fighters in the wake of deadly attacks


By LAZAR BERMAN (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/lazar-berman/) and ADIV STERMAN (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/adiv-sterman/)

Egyptian security forces have killed 10 militants and arrested 20 others in the Sinai desert, Egypt’s state-run media said Sunday, as the army launched a fresh operation aimed at eliminating terrorist activity in the peninsula.

(…)

Military personnel from two field armies were reported Saturday to be blocking roads, bridges and tunnels leading from northern Sinai to other Egyptian regions. The Egyptian navy and air force were also taking part in the operation, according to Egypt’s state-run Middle Eastern News Agency.

According to Egyptian intelligence, there are at least 500 armed extremists operating in the peninsula, Al Ahram reported.

Most of the violence in Sinai has been concentrated in the northern peninsula, where terror elements, some believed to be working with Gaza’s Hamas rulers, have attacked police checkpoints and other military outposts over the last three weeks.

(…)

On Thursday, terrorists killed two soldiers and wounded four others in a shooting attack on a military checkpoint.

On Wednesday, a car bomb detonated near a police training camp close to the northern Sinai city of el-Arish, killing three militants.

Also in the north of Sinai on Wednesday, Islamists attacked security checkpoints in el-Arish and Sheikh Zuweid, killing a civilian and a soldier. Three troops were wounded, security officials said.

Altogether, a total of 17 members of the security forces and at least five civilians have been killed in the area since the July 3 overthrow.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/ten-killed-in-sinai-anti-terror-offensive/

Camera
07-28-2013, 05:11 PM
Egypt's Brotherhood: Zionists destabilize Arab countries

Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Badie blames General al-Sisi for committing massacres 'the likes of which were only committed by bitter Zionist enemies,' insists 'Zionist fingers maneuver countries of Arab Spring so as to fulfill vision of Great Israel'

Roi Kais

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4410835,00.html

Laker1
07-28-2013, 05:18 PM
Egypt's Brotherhood: Zionists destabilize Arab countries

Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Badie blames General al-Sisi for committing massacres 'the likes of which were only committed by bitter Zionist enemies,' insists 'Zionist fingers maneuver countries of Arab Spring so as to fulfill vision of Great Israel'

Roi Kais

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4410835,00.html
When they blamed us on sending Sharks,we shouldn't be surprised about this blame..it's relatively a moderate blame.

Menes
07-28-2013, 05:23 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypt-steps-up-battle-against-morsi-supporters-with-investigation-clashes/2013/07/27/032cae80-f699-11e2-9434-60440856fadf_story.html

Good idea! Give your military another mandate to suppress your rights for another twenty years.

A democratically elected government has been removed in a coup, the party and its supporters are now on their way to being declared criminal, and unarmed people are being shot down in the street.

And yet my country continues to fund this circus.

Egypt's army that fights terrorism in Sinai doesn't need US money. US can rather fund AQ terrorists in Syria instead, just like Libya. :lol:


Congress votes to block aid to Egypt, funds for operations in Syria

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/07/26/congress-votes-to-block-aid-to-egypt-funds-for-operations-in-syria/

I guess if Rommel's July plot against Hitler had succeeded, CNN would have called it a military coup against a democratically elected civilian government. rofl

Menes
07-28-2013, 06:10 PM
What a coup!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tkj7Ip4bAY

Menes
07-28-2013, 06:15 PM
Better quality..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=193957217432078

Lavos
07-28-2013, 06:16 PM
Egypt's Brotherhood: Zionists destabilize Arab countries

Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Badie blames General al-Sisi for committing massacres 'the likes of which were only committed by bitter Zionist enemies,' insists 'Zionist fingers maneuver countries of Arab Spring so as to fulfill vision of Great Israel'

Roi Kais

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4410835,00.html

When in doubt, blame the jews. Always works when you're preaching to a mass of ignorant imbeciles.

TG211
07-29-2013, 04:36 AM
Damn them : http://brigitte21.unblog.fr/files/2013/04/capri-sun-avril-2013.jpg !!!!

Sootan
07-29-2013, 04:38 AM
Damn them : http://brigitte21.unblog.fr/files/2013/04/capri-sun-avril-2013.jpg !!!!

Err, what's this?

K...A..J...
07-29-2013, 05:01 AM
Err, what's this?

Hmmmm juice ? lol.

tea drinker
07-29-2013, 05:44 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypt-steps-up-battle-against-morsi-supporters-with-investigation-clashes/2013/07/27/032cae80-f699-11e2-9434-60440856fadf_story.html

Good idea! Give your military another mandate to suppress your rights for another twenty years.

A democratically elected government has been removed in a coup, the party and its supporters are now on their way to being declared criminal, and unarmed people are being shot down in the street.

And yet my country continues to fund this circus.
From the massive protests it looks like the people realised their mistake and wanted them out of office. MB were not working to their electoral mandate. It was perhaps a majority who who were turned against the gov they elected, if so then it's democracy too, just not on nice terms and stage managed. Democracy at the end of the day being mob rule. The Military were the agent of change for the peoples wishes.
Now whether they have some kind of transition or military remains in power..... then this could indeed change it to a coup.
The number of deaths is really quite staggering though.

TG211
07-29-2013, 05:53 AM
Err, what's this?

It's the Juice, it's their fault. For everything.

Sootan
07-29-2013, 05:57 AM
From the massive protests it looks like the people realised their mistake and wanted them out of office. MB were not working to their electoral mandate. It was perhaps a majority who who were turned against the gov they elected, if so then it's democracy too, just not on nice terms and stage managed. Democracy at the end of the day being mob rule. The Military were the agent of change for the peoples wishes.
Now whether they have some kind of transition or military remains in power..... then this could indeed change it to a coup.
The number of deaths is really quite staggering though. That's a way of justifying a military intervention, I guess.

Sootan
07-29-2013, 05:58 AM
It's the Juice, it's their fault. For everything.

You posted a flavored water, not a proper Juice! I'm outraged!!!!!!

Shelldraken
07-29-2013, 06:27 AM
From the massive protests it looks like the people realised their mistake and wanted them out of office. MB were not working to their electoral mandate. It was perhaps a majority who who were turned against the gov they elected, if so then it's democracy too, just not on nice terms and stage managed. Democracy at the end of the day being mob rule.

Egypt is a big country. You get one million people protesting and that may be a huge protest but it is still only 2% of Egyptian voters. Protesting isn’t democracy because it replaces considered majority rule with rule by the most angry, violent or having less to do. Mob rule isn’t anything like democracy.

Now I’m not saying a Muslin Brotherhood government was a good thing for Egypt and everyone else. But saying that this coup was somehow a ‘democratic coup’ is just plain Bull Sh%t.

Camera
07-29-2013, 02:14 PM
When in doubt, blame the jews. Always works when you're preaching to a mass of ignorant imbeciles.

In Gaza, the MBs have a new trend:


Hamas: Abbas is fabricating stories to defame us in Egypt

‘We initially thought Mossad was behind the smear campaign,’ Hamas official tells Al-Jazeera


By ELHANAN MILLER (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/elhanan-miller/)

(…)

In a press statement issued Monday on its official website, Hamas claimed it has obtained documents indicating that Fatah had established a special committee tasked with fabricating news meant to demonize Hamas and incite the Egyptian public against it.

The documents, Hamas claimed, expose “the conspiracy led by Fatah to demonize and defame Hamas and the Palestinian resistance.”

Hamas official Salah Bardawil told Al-Jazeera on Monday that the secret committee was headed by PA President Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah official Tayeb Abdel Rahim.

(…)

“Hamas had thought the Israeli Mossad or certain countries were behind the campaign, but was surprised to discover that President Mahmoud Abbas is behind it,” Bardawil told Al-Jazeera, claiming the allegations against Hamas amounted to incitement to kill Palestinians and “annihilate” Hamas.

More about this plot in the full article: http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-abbas-is-fabricating-stories-to-defame-us-in-egypt/

Next logical step: Abbas is a Mossad agent. p-)

Laworkerbee
07-29-2013, 02:18 PM
Egypt is a big country. You get one million people protesting and that may be a huge protest but it is still only 2% of Egyptian voters. Protesting isn’t democracy because it replaces considered majority rule with rule by the most angry, violent or having less to do. Mob rule isn’t anything like democracy.

Now I’m not saying a Muslin Brotherhood government was a good thing for Egypt and everyone else. But saying that this coup was somehow a ‘democratic coup’ is just plain Bull Sh%t.

‘democratic coup’

I have to say I like the sound of it. Let's hope it doesn't catch on further than this thread though.

Camera
07-29-2013, 04:32 PM
Cairo vendors killed in mass brawl

At least 12 people have been killed in a fight in central Cairo involving street vendors.

Egyptian state media reported that the brawl took place in the al-Moski area of the capital.

The fight was reportedly caused by a dispute between street vendors over spaces.

Most of the victims died after a shop they took refuge in was set on fire, according to a report by the AFP news agency.
There is so far no suggestion that the fight is linked to the political crisis in Egypt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23470847 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23470847)

It is not linked to the political process, but it tells us something about the climate of violence.

Camera
07-29-2013, 05:29 PM
Report: 3 security forces killed in SinaiThe Palestinian news agency Ma'an has reported that two Egyptian police officers were killed by armed terrorist in Sinai in two different incident, one in the police station in the city of Al Arish and the other in Sheikh Zuweid.

Meanwhile, the Egyptian paper Al Aharam has reported that an Egyptian soldier was killed in an organized attack on a base near Al Arish during Sunday's iftar meal. (Roi Kais)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4411340,00.html

Camera
07-30-2013, 03:15 AM
EU confirms: Ashton holds 2-hour talks with Morsi

European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton met ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi on Monday evening and held two hours of "in depth" discussions with him, Ashton's spokesperson said.

Reporting the meeting on her Twitter account, Ashton's spokesperson, Maja Kocijancic, did not say where the talks had taken place. (Reuter$)

Camera
07-30-2013, 05:36 AM
Report: Rocket hits open area in south; no damage or injuries

By JPOST.COM STAFF
07/30/2013 11:47

A rocket from the Gaza ***** slammed into an open area in the south, Israeli media reported on Tuesday morning.

According to the reports, a code red warning was sounded in the areas surrounding the southern Gaza *****.

So far, no damage or injuries have been reported.

An IDF spokesperson could only confirm that there was a code red warning and that residents in the Sha'ar Hanegev region reported hearing blasts.

Police are conducting sweeps in the area.

shelata
08-01-2013, 06:10 PM
Kerry: Egyptian Military Was 'Restoring Democracy,' Didn't Take Over Egypt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/kerry-egyptian-military-restoring-democracy_n_3690083.html
It seems this is the final Obama administration stand regarding the outset of President Morsi. Interesting indeed.

Bearpit
08-01-2013, 06:12 PM
Their musical taste is brilliant :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpHcdORRaBc

Laworkerbee
08-02-2013, 12:51 PM
Kerry: Egyptian Military Was 'Restoring Democracy,' Didn't Take Over Egypt

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/laworkerbee/bagdadboblargeng5.gif

Kaiser Prussotroll
08-02-2013, 01:12 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/laworkerbee/bagdadboblargeng5.gif

I miss him. He's living in Saudi Arabia nowadays, isn't he? Or was it the UAE?

Either way, I will start my protests to reactivate old Bob. :D

Menes
08-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Obama administration losing credibility in Cairo


Officials said Sisi has also not been swayed by threats by Congress to suspend annual U.S. aid of $1.5 billion to Egypt. They said the defense minister demonstrated his clout when he won pledges of $12 billion from such Gulf Cooperation Council allies as Egypt, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. “The truth is we don’t have a lever over him,” the official said. “He has the lever over us.”http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/07/31/obama-administration-losing-credibility-in-cairo/

Menes
08-03-2013, 04:00 PM
Al-Sisi: US turned its back on Egyptians


Egyptian army chief accuses Obama administration of failing to properly support his country amid threats of civil war; commits to resolve political tensions, tells Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel he is committed to roadmap leading to elections, constitution

"You left the Egyptians. You turned your back on the Egyptians, and they won't forget that," Sisi was quoted as saying. "Now you want to continue turning your backs on Egyptians?"

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4413202,00.html

tea drinker
08-03-2013, 04:35 PM
So what is Sisi's issue? Should US say nothing about the death toll?


But US ties with Egypt's armed forces have shown signs of strain, including President Barack Obama's decision last month to halt delivery of four F-16 fighter jets.

Sissi bristled at the move. “This is not the way to deal with a patriotic military,” he said.

4 F-16's won't solve your problems buddy.

tea drinker
08-03-2013, 04:52 PM
Egypt is a big country. You get one million people protesting and that may be a huge protest but it is still only 2% of Egyptian voters. Protesting isn’t democracy because it replaces considered majority rule with rule by the most angry, violent or having less to do. Mob rule isn’t anything like democracy.

Now I’m not saying a Muslin Brotherhood government was a good thing for Egypt and everyone else. But saying that this coup was somehow a ‘democratic coup’ is just plain Bull Sh%t.
And that notional 2% represent the other 98%, same as overe here the 50% or less for voter turnouts in elections and referendum votes represent the others who didn't / couldn't go. But in Egypt the smaller Morsi supporter crowds represented his faction. You think the Morsi supporters simply lacked motivation or were "busy" ?

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/democracy-nothing-more-mob-rule
"Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%

Menes
08-03-2013, 07:56 PM
Putin visit to Cairo impending. El-Sisi moves to outlaw Brotherhood. US in blocking mode


President Vladimir Putin is set to visit to Cairo – possibly next Wednesday Aug. 7 – on the advice of Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan, DEBKAfilereports exclusively. The prince landed in Moscow Wednesday, July 31 without warning. He told Putin that Saudi King Abdullah was in favor of the Russian president going to Cairo as soon as possible and did not rule out the visit occasioning the signing of a large Russian arms sale to Egypt, bankrolled by the oil kingdom.http://www.debka.com/article/23168/

Camera
08-03-2013, 09:50 PM
Putin visit to Cairo impending. El-Sisi moves to outlaw Brotherhood. US in blocking mode

http://www.debka.com/article/23168/

Could be true, but anyway, Debka Files is a non reliable site.

Shelldraken
08-03-2013, 10:50 PM
And that notional 2% represent the other 98%, same as overe here the 50% or less for voter turnouts in elections and referendum votes represent the others who didn't / couldn't go. But in Egypt the smaller Morsi supporter crowds represented his faction. You think the Morsi supporters simply lacked motivation or were "busy" ?

Attendance at a protest rally is a little bit different to a national ballot. By your argument all of America should be ruled by Louis Farrakan because 98% of you didn’t show up to the million man march.

There are many reasons why a national ballot is more represtnative than a single protest day. Like not everyone lives in Cairo and has ready transport. Most Egyptians are poor rural farmers. Also people can be intimidated from attending protests, like by the presence of the Army that is out to get them. Or they could just be polite and let the other side have their say. But a national ballot provides an opportunity for everyone to vote for candidates to express their will.


http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/democracy-nothing-more-mob-rule
"Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%

Jefferson? Since when did a rich American slave holding aristocrat from 200 years ago decide what democracy means for everyone.

And mob rule is a precise term in English. It means is government by a mass of people through intimidation of legitimate authorities. For a contemporary example in America at the moment just look at the outrage over George Zimmerman’s acquittal. If there was mob rule in American he would be in prison for murder (or worse) rather than driving free in Texas somewhere.

Menes
08-04-2013, 05:36 AM
Pro-Morsi besieged a church in Sohag, raised AlQaeda flag on St.George church, and attacked several houses of Copts.

http://www.shorouknews.com/news/view.aspx?cdate=04082013&id=0437a608-e2c7-43d0-b0d7-8aa8236d7410

Camera
08-04-2013, 02:00 PM
Egypt nixes Turkish PM’s visit to Gaza Stri p

Cairo officials say Erdogan will be denied access to Hamas-controlled territory due to his support of Muslim Brotherhood

http://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-nixes-turkish-pms-visit-to-gaza-*****/

Token White Guy
08-04-2013, 02:24 PM
Pro-Morsi besieged a church in Sohag, raised AlQaeda flag on St.George church, and attacked several houses of Copts.

http://www.shorouknews.com/news/view.aspx?cdate=04082013&id=0437a608-e2c7-43d0-b0d7-8aa8236d7410

I'm surprised Coptics haven't taken up arms yet. When will they have enough of salafists attacking their community without government help?

Hisroyalhighness
08-04-2013, 07:35 PM
Egypt says time is running out to peacefully end pro-Morsi protests

CAIRO – Egypt's highest security body warned Sunday that the clock is ticking for a peaceful end to the standoff over sit-ins by supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi, suggesting that authorities will break up the vigils unless mediation efforts produce results soon.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/04/egypt-says-time-is-running-out-to-peacefully-end-pro-morsi-protests/#ixzz2b2xFKcng

m4rs75
08-05-2013, 02:15 PM
An Egyptian soldier was killed and two others wounded August 5 by gunmen who opened fire at an army checkpoint outside a military building in northern Sinai, AFP reported.

PapaDoc91
08-05-2013, 03:47 PM
Does Egypt have any plans to launch a military offensive into the Sinai Peninsula? I mean that place is a hotbed for jihadist. They need to get the situation under control. Israel won't really care because they trust the Egyptians will only fight the jihadist.

EITAN88
08-05-2013, 04:04 PM
Does Egypt have any plans to launch a military offensive into the Sinai Peninsula?

They are in the midst of a counter insurgency campaign.

shelata
08-05-2013, 04:27 PM
It seems MB followers protests are fulfilling some tactical gains.

Western, Arab envoys visit jailed MB leader Khairat el-Shater

http://en.ammonnews.net/article.aspx?articleno=22665#.UgAJqJLKH0w

These envoys included U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns and European Union envoy Bernadino Leon.

Menes
08-05-2013, 07:07 PM
Egypt: Mohamed Morsi's allies admit defeat and plot to fly him into exile


Deposed President could resign via a televised address and hand powers to interim Prime Minister

Islamist allies of Mohamed Morsi are secretly discussing a face-saving deal in which the toppled President could be released from detention and allowed to officially “resign” his position, according to a source close to crisis talks currently taking place between opposing sides in Cairo.

Options being considered include allowing Mr Morsi – who has not been seen in public since being detained by the military a month ago – to announce his resignation in a televised address and formerly hand his executive powers to interim Prime Minister Hazem al-Beblawi. Another possibility is that Mr Morsi could be released and flown into exile, according to the source. “We’re hoping to find a dignified exit for him,” he added.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egypt-mohamed-morsis-allies-admit-defeat-and-plot-to-fly-him-into-exile-8745525.html

Menes
08-06-2013, 05:59 PM
Egypt's ousting of Mohamed Morsi was a coup, says John McCain


US senator's choice of words to describe army's overthrow of president may have legal ramifications for US aid to Egypt

Senator John McCain has become the first US official to describe the ousting of former Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi as a coup – a move that contradicts the White House stance and potentially raises legal ramifications for ongoing American aid.

Officials, including President Barack Obama, have avoided using the term to characterise the armed overthrow of Morsi's government on 3 July, largely because US law would then require it to cut aid with Egypt.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/06/john-mccain-egypt-mohamed-morsi-coup

Laworkerbee
08-06-2013, 06:09 PM
a move that contradicts the White House stance

What did the White House refer to this again, a democratic takeover?

Siempre_Leal
08-06-2013, 06:15 PM
Egypt's ousting of Mohamed Morsi was a coup, says John McCain



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/06/john-mccain-egypt-mohamed-morsi-coup

Why cant McCain just disappear?

Egypt's Brotherhood rejects appeal to 'swallow reality'


(*******) - The Muslim Brotherhood on Monday rejected pleas from international envoys to "swallow the reality" that Mohamed Mursi will not return as Egypt's president.


The envoys from the United States and the European Union, trying to resolve a political crisis brought on by the army's overthrow of the Islamist Mursi a month ago, visited jailed Brotherhood deputy leader Khairat El-Shater in the early hours of Monday.


But he cut the meeting short, saying they should be talking to Mursi, Brotherhood spokesman Gehad El-Haddad said. People briefed on the meeting described it as long, in some moments intense, but constructive and useful.


From the other side, a senior military source said the army and interim government would offer to free some jailed Muslim Brotherhood members, unfreeze its assets and give it three ministerial posts, in a move to end the crisis.


A source involved in the diplomatic initiative said the releases from prison were expected within hours.

http://www.reut ers.com/article/2013/08/05/us-egypt-protests-idUSBRE9710IF20130805

Menes
08-06-2013, 08:14 PM
Egypt dismisses US senators' call for release of pro-Morsi detainees


Two top US senators visiting Egypt have urged the release of detained Muslim Brotherhood members. Egypt’s interim president described their comments as "unacceptable" as foreign mediation efforts begin to be questioned.

A mediation visit by the two Republican senators appeared to have fallen short of its desired aim on Tuesday, with state newspaper al-Ahram indicating that Cairo was beginning to tire of outside involvement.

The comments, calling the detainees "political prisoners" and referring to the overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi - who was last year elected to the post - as a "coup" were denounced by interim Egyptian President Adly Mansour. In a brief statement, Mansour described the remarks as "unacceptable interference in internal politics."

http://www.dw.de/egypt-dismisses-us-senators-call-for-release-of-pro-morsi-detainees/a-17002582

Menes
08-07-2013, 05:13 AM
US Senator McCain, in Cairo, says Egypt near 'all-out bloodshed'


Unrest in Egypt could turn into "all-out bloodshed" in coming days if efforts to find a political solution fail, US Senator John McCain warned on Tuesday during a visit to Cairo.

"Oh my God, I didn't know it was this bad. These folks are just days or weeks away from all-out bloodshed," McCain said during an interview in Cairo with "CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley."

McCain and fellow Republican Senator Lindsey Graham met with Egypt's new rulers as reports said the country's military-installed government could soon announce that foreign efforts to mediate a peaceful end to the country's political crisis were collapsing.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/78504/Egypt/Politics-/US-Senator-McCain,-in-Cairo,-says-Egypt-near-allou.aspx

elconquistador
08-07-2013, 07:00 AM
Egypt Militants Kill Pro-Army Politician in Sinai

Gunmen in Egypt's restive Sinai Peninsula gunned down a politician known for his support of the military on Wednesday, security official and medics said.

The Bedouin politician's influential tribe immediately blamed Islamist militants who have conducted daily attacks on security forces since the military overthrew Egypt's Islamist president Mohammed Morsi on July 3. (http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/93475-egypt-militants-kill-pro-army-politician-in-sinai)

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/93475-egypt-militants-kill-pro-army-politician-in-sinai (http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/93475-egypt-militants-kill-pro-army-politician-in-sinai)

A known recipe in AQ's text book: in order to influence the societal fields of power, attack religious and political opponents

Camera
08-07-2013, 02:03 PM
Egypt says Sinai patrols kill 60 militants since Morsi ouster

By REUTER$
08/07/2013 18:41

Army says it is conducting intensified campaign in peninsula.

(…)

Army spokesman Colonel Ahmed Ali announced the "results" of the crackdown on his Facebook page, reporting that an additional 64 militants were injured in the Sinai campaign between July 5 and August 4. Over 100 were arrested, said the army.

The militants have struck on an almost daily basis and killed around 40 people, according to medical officials. Many of those killed were members of the security forces.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Egypt-says-Sinai-patrols-kill-60-militants-since-Morsi-ouster-322352

Shermbodius
08-07-2013, 06:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LpAt2nIBpF4 I saw this posted somewhere.

Galactico
08-07-2013, 08:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LpAt2nIBpF4 I saw this posted somewhere.
Amusing.
Self awareness isn't really their strong suit.

Osobist
08-08-2013, 02:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LpAt2nIBpF4 I saw this posted somewhere.

My eyes bled a little. Also i support theory that countries with bad sense of humor more prоne to warfare, looking at that i agree with McCain - Egypt is doomed.

Korathv2
08-08-2013, 03:00 AM
Strategic Horizons: Sinai Is the Next Big Jihadist Battle
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/13146/strategic-horizons-sinai-is-the-next-big-jihadist-battle (http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/13146/strategic-horizons-sinai-is-the-next-big-jihadist-battle)


Good analysis

Camera
08-08-2013, 07:05 AM
Egyptian crisis puts fearful Christians in a cornerIslamists step up hate campaign against Copts, claim they are to blame for Morsi downfall
By HAMZA HENDAWI (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/hamza-hendawi/)

http://www.timesofisrael.com/egyptian-crisis-puts-fearful-christians-in-a-corner/

Camera
08-08-2013, 01:50 PM
IDF shuts Eilat airport due to security reasons

By YAAKOV LAPPIN (http://www.jpost.com/Authors/AuthorPage.aspx?id=46), JERUSALEM POST STAFF
08/08/2013 19:40

Airport closed for incoming and outgoing flights following security assessment; nearby Uvda Airport opened as alternative; IDF order comes as Egypt's army continues operation to root out terror in neighboring Sinai.

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/IDF-shuts-Eilat-airport-due-to-security-reasons-322510

EITAN88
08-08-2013, 09:17 PM
Analysis: Temporary closure of southernmost city's airport most likely linked to smuggling of shoulder-launched missiles into Sinai

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4415654,00.html

I guess that should hasten the construction of the Timna Airport...

Camera
08-09-2013, 09:13 AM
Egypt official: Israel closed Eilat airport because of our warning

A high-ranking Egyptian army official told the Palestinian Ma'an news agency that Israel had closed the Eilat airport on Thursday after receiving a warning from Cairo regarding plans of Sinai terror groups to attack Israeli targets using missiles with a 70 km range.

The report said that Egypt's intelligence services obtained information whereby Sinai terrorists have anti-aircraft missiles and intend to strike security and strategic facilities in Sinai during Eid al-Fitr. It was further reported that Egyptian jets were circling over Sinai to thwart any missile launches. (Elior Levy)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4415781,00.html

tanks_alot
08-09-2013, 12:21 PM
Palestinian report: IDF bombs rocket launchers in Egyptian Rafah

The Palestinian news agency Maan reported a loud explosion in the Egyptian side of Rafah near the Israeli border, in the vicinity of the Kerem Shalom Crossing. An Egyptian army source told the agency that an Israeli aircraft bombed rockets launchers deployed on Thursday in a desert area of the Egyptian Rafah.

According to the source, at least five militants were killed in the bombing. According to Egyptian reports, Sinai militant groups recently decided to launch rockets at Israel, after acquiring various rockets via smuggling routes through the Red Sea. (Elior Levy)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4415813,00.html

Pretty serious, if it'll turn out to be ture.

Camera
08-09-2013, 01:34 PM
Report: IAF drone strikes jihadist rocket launcher in Sinai, killing at least 5 terrorists

By JPOST.COM STAFF, THE POST STAFF
08/09/2013 19:03

Egyptian sources say IDF coordinated attack with Egyptian authorities; strike comes after IDF orders closure of Eilat Airport for 2 hours on Thursday, reportedly due to Egyptian intel of jihadist plans to attack Israel.

(…)

AFP cited Egyptian sources as saying the IDF coordinated the attack with the Egyptian authorities.

An IDF spokesman said the army does not comment on reports published in the foreign media.

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Report-IAF-drone-strikes-Islamic-Jihad-rocket-launcher-in-Sinai-killing-at-least-5-terrorists-322593 (http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Report-IAF-drone-strikes-Islamic-Jihad-rocket-launcher-in-Sinai-killing-at-least-5-terrorists-322593)

Good joint initiative, if true.
We told Shelata and his friend that this should happen if the mess in Sinai becomes a threat for Eilat.

Camera
08-09-2013, 04:53 PM
Egypt’s Economic Options: The Need for an Outward Strategy

INSS Insight No. 454, August 8, 2013

Chalamish, Efraim

http://www.inss.org.il/publications.php?cat=21&incat=&read=11860

Camera
08-09-2013, 08:04 PM
President Gül calls on Egypt’s rulers to restore fledgling democracy
ANKARA

President Abdullah Gül has called the interim rulers of Egypt to restore the democracy and listed four steps are that are vital to put democracy back on track in the crisis-torn country in which he called the situation as “worrying and unsustainable,” in an opinion article to Financial Times.

“The coup that ousted Mohamed Morsi, Egypt’s first democratically elected president, was a clear derailment of the country’s progress. Perhaps the deadlock could have been avoided. Maybe this situation could have been averted by calling for early elections. But problems should, in any case, have been corrected through democratic mechanisms,” Gül wrote in the article with a headline “Egypt must restore its fledgling democracy – and fast.”

CONTINUED: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/president-gul-calls-on-egypts-rulers-to-restore-fledgling-democracy.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52255&NewsCatID=338

Camera
08-09-2013, 10:59 PM
Regional Affairs: Unrest in Egypt appears far from over

By ARIEL BEN SOLOMON (http://www.jpost.com/Authors/AuthorPage.aspx?id=195)
LAST UPDATED: 08/10/2013 04:10

With the collapse of international attempts at mediating between the army-installed government and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, both sides are gearing up for confrontation.


Many of those who follow developments in the region are not surprised, as it dovetails with the culture and history of intra-Arab struggles for political power – a region traditionally led by strongmen and devoid of Western democracy, with a winner-take-all mentality that does not leave room for compromise or losers.

In fact, in a 2006 paper titled “Democracy in the Middle East,” which Egyptian military chief Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi wrote while studying at the US Army War College, he argues that “existing conflict and tension needs to be resolved before democracy can be more fully accepted by the people of the area.”

“On the surface, many of the autocratic leaders claim that they are in favor of democratic ideals and forms of government, but they are leery of relinquishing control to the voting public of their regimes,” wrote Sisi.

He goes on to note that the challenge today is similar to the one faced at the beginning of Islam: uniting “these tribal and ethnic factions.” In any case, he states that Middle Eastern democracy is not likely to follow the Western model, but will have “its own shape [...] with stronger religious ties.”

Eric Trager, an Egypt expert and fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, wrote in Foreign Policy that Sisi’s argument is basically the same one that former president Hosni Mubarak made, “that Middle Easterners are just not ready for democracy.”

Halim Barakat, a novelist, sociologist and retired professor at The Center for Contemporary Arab Studies at Georgetown University, was born in Syria and raised in Beirut.

He writes in his book The Arab World: Society, Culture, and State about the importance of the classic Arab family as the fundamental unit in Arab society – holding just as true among a traditional Beduin family as it does among that of a modernized urban Arab.

“The success or failure of an individual member becomes that of the family as a whole. This centrality of the family as the basic socioeconomic unit is now being increasingly challenged by the state and other social institutions. But the network of interdependent kinship relations continues to prevail. In this network, the father continues to wield authority, assume responsibility for the family, and expect respect and unquestioning compliance with his instructions.”

FULL ARTICLE: http://www.jpost.com/Features/Front-Lines/Regional-Affairs-Unrest-in-Egypt-appears-far-from-over-322540

Vorph
08-11-2013, 02:55 PM
It begins...


Crackdown on Cairo protests imminent

Egyptian security forces are preparing to encircle pro-Morsi protest camps early on Monday, Al Jazeera learns.

Egyptian security forces are preparing for a crackdown against supporters of the deposed president Mohamed Morsi who are gathered in Cairo protest camps.

Security sources told Al Jazeera that Egyptian police would launch action against the protesters early on Monday.

Al Jazeera's Simon McGregor-Wood, reporting from the pro-Morsi Cairo suburb of Nasr City, on Sunday said that the crackdown would not involve a full-scale assault, but a comprehensive encirclement, where they would let people out, but not back in.

A senior security source told R*****s news agency earlier that the decision to take action came after a meeting between the interior minister and his aides.
"State security troops will be deployed around the sit-ins by dawn as a start of procedures that will eventually lead to a dispersal," another source told R*****s.

Officials, who spoke anonymously in line with regulations, told the Associated Press news agency that they were preparing for possible clashes that might erupt...

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/08/2013811163225525429.html

I hope they can resolve this with as little bloodshed as possible...

Illusive
08-11-2013, 03:29 PM
“Egypt must restore its fledgling democracy – and fast.”

Perhaps I'm a pessimist, but why is it that some people think that all you need to do to make a suitable government is simply toss in a few voting booths, and everything turns out all roses? I'm slightly certain that the United State's founding fathers had to spend quite a few days fretting and worrying about how to have a functional government as opposed to a nation ruled by a mob.

Ought Six
08-11-2013, 05:43 PM
Perhaps I'm a pessimist, but why is it that some people think that all you need to do to make a suitable government is simply toss in a few voting booths, and everything turns out all roses? I'm slightly certain that the United State's founding fathers had to spend quite a few days fretting and worrying about how to have a functional government as opposed to a nation ruled by a mob.I am unaware of any democratic representative republic that did not have a rocky start. Ours sure did. We had institutional religious discrimination, slavery, a federal government that was powerless, deep in debt and broke, no military to speak of with a hostile power on our northern border, thousands of our citizens being kidnapped and press-ganged on the high seas, an economy wrought with severe economic convulsions, a frontier rebellion that had to be put down with federal troops and more. Everyone bet we would not last until the dawn of the new century a few scant years away. Not long after, we were invaded by a foreign power on two fronts, our capital city and president's mansion was put to the torch, we suffered incessant Indian attacks on our frontier settlements, and even more economic disasters. The divisions between the north and south only became more acute, leading to one of the bloodiest civil wars in human history. Again, many thought America could not survive, but it did. It was surviving all these trials that really welded us together in the end. We should not be holding young democracies to a higher standard than what we ourselves set.

EITAN88
09-05-2013, 07:13 AM
Egypt's interior minister survived an assassination attempt on Thursday when a bomb blew up as his convoy drove through Cairo (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4417855,00.html)'s Nasr City district, state media and security officials said.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4426379,00.html

Seems like everyone has forgotten about Egypt now that Syria is in the headlines.

Laker1
09-05-2013, 07:53 AM
I read today that Obama's advisors want to stop the aid

EITAN88
09-05-2013, 08:04 AM
I read today that Obama's advisors want to stop the aid

On that note...


The US government faces billions of dollars in potential costs if it decides to cancel foreign military aid to Egypt, a senior Pentagon official told ******* on Wednesday.


Richard Genaille, deputy director of the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency, said he hoped the Obama administration reached a decision soon on whether to continue $1.23 billion in US military assistance to Egypt, given the large number of weapons shipments in the pipeline.



http://www.jpost.com/Elections-2013/Pentagon-official-Halt-of-aid-to-Egypt-would-cost-US-billions-325313

Laker1
09-05-2013, 08:20 AM
On that note...



http://www.jpost.com/Elections-2013/Pentagon-official-Halt-of-aid-to-Egypt-would-cost-US-billions-325313

If they will cut it,i don't think that they will cut all of it..they want to maintain some leverage,not to mention that it can do some damage to the U.S arms industry..

Bloo
09-05-2013, 02:21 PM
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4426379,00.html

Seems like everyone has forgotten about Egypt now that Syria is in the headlines.

To al-Sisi's credit they've done a decent job cracking down on violence and there are hardly any MB protests anymore. The people still the military, for now at least.

EITAN88
09-05-2013, 03:23 PM
Video shows two men firing RPGs at ship transiting Suez Canal

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4426458,00.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buS4mfEX3w0

Laworkerbee
09-05-2013, 03:48 PM
Allah Akbar indeed you useless idiots.

Siempre_Leal
09-07-2013, 07:30 PM
Egypt launches offensive against Sinai militants (http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-launches-offensive-against-sinai-militants-125550723.html)

Egypt army attacks Sinai Islamists as militancy spreads (http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-army-attacks-sinai-islamists-militancy-spreads-220001137.html)

tea drinker
09-08-2013, 11:40 AM
Egyptian helicopter gunships and tanks pounded suspected hideouts of Islamic militants in the northern Sinai Peninsula on Saturday, in what officials described as a major new offensive in the insurgent stronghold. Residents who witnessed winding columns of trucks and armoured vehicles pour into the area said the operation was one of the largest there in years.
Meanwhile, the country's prosecutor general filed new charges against deposed President Mohamed Morsi, accusing him of insulting the judiciary – a crime in Egypt (http://www.theguardian.com/world/egypt) punishable by up to six months imprisonment.
A security official said "dozens" of insurgent suspects were killed and wounded in the Sinai offensive, which comes two days after a failed suicide bombing targeting the country's top policeman in Cairo. Smoke could be seen rising from the towns of Rafah and Sheikh Zuweyid, and troops set up a cordon to prevent militants from escaping as others combed the area, he said.
The northern Sinai, which adjoins Israel and the Palestinian Gaza *****, has long been a haven for militants, including al-Qaida-inspired groups. Attacks have spiked in the area since Morsi was ousted on 3 July, prompting the latest army offensive.
"This is by far the largest operation we have seen and the one we have been waiting for," said Sheikh Hassan Khalaf, a tribal leader from al-Joura, one of 12 targeted villages in the area. "Starting today, you will not hear of attacks on army or police checkpoints as before. They either have to flee or get arrested," he added.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/07/egypt-suspected-militants-sinai

shelata
09-08-2013, 02:59 PM
Strong support message is introduced by Congresswoman Michele Bachmann & two congressmen to General Al Sisi for the outset of President Morsi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T0iTiCHjiNs

JGXL836
09-08-2013, 03:14 PM
So far he deserves full support.

Impartial Bias
09-08-2013, 03:21 PM
Strong support message is introduced by Congresswoman Michele Bachmann & two congressmen to General Al Sisi for the outset of President Morsi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T0iTiCHjiNs

Trio of ****ing wankers.

That left a bile taste in my mouth.

Camera
09-08-2013, 03:35 PM
Strong support message is introduced by Congresswoman Michele Bachmann & two congressmen to General Al Sisi for the outset of President Morsi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T0iTiCHjiNs

Sisi does all what should have been done long ago.
For instance, he destroys the infrastructure of tunnels that links Egypt and the terrorists in Gaza. He demolishes tens of houses from the Egyptian side of the border to create a large buffer zone that is intended to be filled with water.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypt-squeezing-economic-pipeline-to-gaza-*****/2013/09/08/82abda7a-18a2-11e3-8685-5021e0c41964_story.html?wprss=rss_middle-east

Nightsky
09-08-2013, 03:50 PM
Sisi does all what should have been done long ago.

Agreed, but in my opinion it is not sufficient to rate him from an Israeli perspective only.

Bloo
09-08-2013, 04:02 PM
Trio of ****ing wankers.

That left a bile taste in my mouth.

Bachmann is a bit of a loon but she's basically right here. It's utterly counterproductive to the US, Egypt, and Israel for the US to not back Sisi.

Camera
09-08-2013, 04:03 PM
Agreed, but in my opinion it is not sufficient to rate him from an Israeli perspective only.

In addition to fighting terror, the Egyptian gov does other positive things such as to prepare amendments for Morsi's Sharia constitution.
IMO, one of the mistakes that the Egyptians made was to go to elections first and then prepare a constitution.

Once the situation is stabilized, we should see if the army restarts the democratic process or not.

Impartial Bias
09-08-2013, 04:09 PM
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Bachmann is a bit of a loon but she's basically right here. It's utterly counterproductive to the US, Egypt, and Israel for the US to not back Sisi.

They talk of democracy and freedom, and completely ignore the fact that a coup d'etat just occurred against a democratically elected government, at high loss of life. That undermines all their spoken 'ideals' of democracy.

I don't know what to think of Sisi yet. Too early in the game. He has positives, and negatives about him. Positive, he's taking steps against the Islamists. Negative, he purged a democratically elected government (democracy does not exist at this point in time in Egypt), those steps could be too heavy handed, leading to future conflagration, and who is to say that he'll ever step down or won't take a turn for the worse?

Bloo
09-08-2013, 07:35 PM
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They talk of democracy and freedom, and completely ignore the fact that a coup d'etat just occurred against a democratically elected government, at high loss of life. That undermines all their spoken 'ideals' of democracy.

I don't know what to think of Sisi yet. Too early in the game. He has positives, and negatives about him. Positive, he's taking steps against the Islamists. Negative, he purged a democratically elected government (democracy does not exist at this point in time in Egypt), those steps could be too heavy handed, leading to future conflagration, and who is to say that he'll ever step down or won't take a turn for the worse?

This is just idealism. Basing your foreign policy solely around democracy is pretty foolish. Democratic regimes are not necessarily your friends. Al-Sisi is a strategic partner and ally for the US and Israel far better than the Islamists previously "elected" into power were. He also seems to have the popular support of the people and only assumed power after the largest protests in Egyptian history, if that makes you feel better.

al-Sisi is fighting Jihadism in the Sinai, cracking down on the anti-American Muslim Brotherhood, ended overtures to Iran, and cracking down on Gaza, itself a blemish of Iranian-Syrian-Jihadist influence in the area. This is all far better for US strategic interests then Egypt being a democracy. You can say "that's not right!", but the US didn't install al-Sisi to begin with and there's no reason to not work with him. Basically, if you want to only support democracy in the region, you're only ally is going to be Israel.

Anyway say what you will about Bachmann, but she recognized and pointed out the ideological extremism/threat of the Muslim Brotherhood back when the rest of the West sans Israel were calling them secular freedom fighters (or as Obama once actually put it "Secular Islamists").

Impartial Bias
09-08-2013, 07:48 PM
This is just idealism. Basing your foreign policy solely around democracy is pretty foolish. Democratic regimes are not necessarily your friends. Al-Sisi is a strategic partner and ally for the US and Israel far better than the Islamists previously "elected" into power were. He also seems to have the popular support of the people and only assumed power after the largest protests in Egyptian history, if that makes you feel better.

al-Sisi is fighting Jihadism in the Sinai, cracking down on the anti-American Muslim Brotherhood, ended overtures to Iran, and cracking down on Gaza, itself a blemish of Iranian-Syrian-Jihadist influence in the area. This is all far better for US strategic interests then Egypt being a democracy. You can say "that's not right!", but the US didn't install al-Sisi to begin with and there's no reason to not work with him.

Basically, if you want to support Arab democracy in the region you're only allies are going to be Lebanon, itself little more then a barely-stable Iranian-Syrian staging ground.

I hear all that, but it's still too early in the game for me. Egypt is still highly unstable at the present, and still has yet to deal with the full ramifications of two government changes in as many years time. It's not like our supported dictators have not turned on us (or had their domestic situations turn on themselves) before. I'm wary of it all. Just a month ago, we were singing a different tone when it came to the Muslim Brotherhood and Morsi. Us not 'installing' al-Sisi is one of my worries, actually. It seems we were supportive of the MB and Morsi in months before...

On Democracy. While Democracy is nice, I'm not going to get stuck in the viewpoint of Western Universalism. Sometimes, democracy is not applicable for numerous reasons, and that is why I have a negative viewpoint of the three tards at that conference. Spewing half-assed hypocritical ideology to a nation with barely veiled serious domestic issues. It just puts me off. I don't know what they were doing there or what they were trying to accomplish, and I doubt they knew as either. The stuttering, reading heavily from script, and vague explanations documents this.

We shall see about al-Sisi. I doubt this is an end to Egyptian unrest.

Nightsky
09-09-2013, 12:24 AM
In addition to fighting terror, the Egyptian gov does other positive things such as to prepare amendments for Morsi's Sharia constitution.
IMO, one of the mistakes that the Egyptians made was to go to elections first and then prepare a constitution.

Once the situation is stabilized, we should see if the army restarts the democratic process or not.

Sounds all very sensible. I was actually heavily opposed to the bloody fashion of this coup, but I begin to see the possible benefits, if Sisi does it right, which remains to be seen. Many people argue that Tiananmen was even beneficial for the economic stability and allowed China's subsequent rise. Maybe Egypt also needs stability first and can move on later on. Like China, though, the military complex has too much influence in the economy, too many enterprises are state and thereby military run. In China the PLA succeessfully let go some of its influence and private businesses were also encouraged.
This might be even more important than an immediate democratic process - the army loosening its grip on the economy. That's the biggest challenge I see for Egypt, because no entity easily gives away power or money, the Egyptian military being no exception.

And with time I also hope that they will call this coup a coup and maybe analyse themselves, if hundreds of dead on a single day were really necessary. I do see why it might be beneficial for Egypt in the short run, but I still don't like the way it is handled. Wishing all the best for Egypt and hope the country gets back on its feet.

tea drinker
09-11-2013, 06:17 AM
A suicide bomber has rammed an explosives-laden car into the military intelligence headquarters in a border town in Egypt's volatile Sinai, killing at least three soldiers and wounding 10, security officials said.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/car-bomb-rocks-egypt-military-hq-29571147.html

BeardlessInfidel
09-11-2013, 06:29 AM
They talk of democracy and freedom, and completely ignore the fact that a coup d'etat just occurred against a democratically elected government, at high loss of life. That undermines all their spoken 'ideals' of democracy.Firstly, elections appear not to have been 'democratic' at all. At least the results were 'controlled'. See also Morsi didn't win elections (http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_opinion.php?id=5395).

Secondly, the loss of life was caused not by police or military that reacted with violence in response to peaceful protesting, but by MBs rioting and attacking police, firemen and the military, and the police and military shooting back.

And finally: Morsi and his admin proved completely incompetent and have ruined the economy in two years of their rule. That means that unemployment, increasing food and fuel prices etc. would have caused an uprising against them, sooner rather than later.

As such, and as much as I dislike the idea of military controlling any country too... well, whichever way one turns it, the military was in control even during Morsi's reign and it is going to going to remain in control of Egypt for a number of years to come. Simply because the military controls most of crucial business branches. For the time being, it's better to have it as a body controlling the build-up of democratic institutions and traditions, and the learning process too. Take Turkey as example, if it has to be.

Sometimes in the future the time will come when Egyptians will decide to kick their military out of the politics and economy. Then they are going to need some very strong democratic institutions to be able to do so. But, that time has not yet come.

Camera
09-12-2013, 02:49 PM
Report: Hamas gives landmines to Egyptian Islamists, trains them in planting car bombs

By REUTER$
LAST UPDATED: 09/12/2013 21:11

Egypt state TV says that Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, has been training its Egyptian peers; Hamas denies allegations; Egypt extended a state of emergency by two months on Thursday because of the security situation.

The Hamas Islamist group ruling Gaza has been teaching Egyptian Islamists how to plant bombs in cars, Egyptian state television said on Thursday.
Hamas also gave 400 landmines to Egyptian militant groups, said the television. Hamas is an offshoot of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood.

CONTINUED: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Hamas-gives-landmines-to-Egyptian-Islamists-trains-them-in-planting-car-bombs-326010

Laworkerbee
09-12-2013, 03:04 PM
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They talk of democracy and freedom, and completely ignore the fact that a coup d'etat just occurred against a democratically elected government, at high loss of life. That undermines all their spoken 'ideals' of democracy.

I don't know what to think of Sisi yet. Too early in the game. He has positives, and negatives about him. Positive, he's taking steps against the Islamists. Negative, he purged a democratically elected government (democracy does not exist at this point in time in Egypt), those steps could be too heavy handed, leading to future conflagration, and who is to say that he'll ever step down or won't take a turn for the worse?

I don't think it matters that the opponents to power happen to be Islamist's. My bet is SiSi would use the same power against secularists trying to depose him as well.

My governments hands get bloodier with every dime we give to these murderous thugs in uniforms.

JGXL836
09-20-2013, 04:46 PM
Some 30,000 Arab Israelis took part Friday in a rally titled "Al-Aqsa Mosque in Danger," in the northern town of Umm al-Fahm. The event was organized by the northern branch of the Islamic Movement.

[snip]

This year, participants were also expressing their support of the Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Regarding developments in Egypt, Khatib noted: "We condemn the maltreatment the Muslim Brotherhood has been receiving in Egypt and we will continue to stress that Morsi is the leader of Egypt who was chosen by his people in a democratic manner.

Ahmed Masrawi, a resident of Tira, said: "Every year I attend this rally, but this time there was a special event and I felt as if I were in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood from all these Rabaa Al-Adawiya flags (place of pro-Brotherhood protest in Cairo) and the picture of President Morsi."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4431666,00.html

Bloo
09-20-2013, 06:48 PM
I like how Arab Israeli's protest in support of both Assad and Morsi, despite the fact that they were enemies of one another due to Egypt's support for the Syrian MB. Back in the day they also used to support Saddam, despite his tensions with Syria and Iran (two regimes also popular among the Islamic Movement Arab Israeli's).

It seems like they'll just support anyone who doesn't like their own country.

Siempre_Leal
09-21-2013, 05:35 PM
Egyptian arrested for naming donkey after general (http://news.yahoo.com/egyptian-arrested-naming-donkey-general-144159065.html)


CAIRO (AP) — A farmer in southern Egypt was arrested Saturday after putting the military chief's name and an army-style cap on his donkey, and eight people were detained elsewhere in the country for spraying anti-military graffiti.


The arrests point to a long-standing taboo in Egypt against criticizing the country's powerful military, an offense magnified amid the ongoing crackdown on supporters of the country's ousted President Mohammed Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood.


The farmer, Omar Abul-Magd, was arrested late Friday in Qena province for allegedly insulting Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi when he rode the donkey through town, reported the state MENA news agency.

Camera
09-30-2013, 11:38 AM
Two police and soldier gunned down in separate Sinai attacks

Gunmen ambush policemen in el-Arish, raid army checkpoint in city, injuring six

BY AP

http://www.timesofisrael.com/gunmen-kill-two-egyptian-officers-in-sinai/

Camera
10-03-2013, 09:11 PM
Hamas demands clarification from Egypt on Gaza threats

Officials voice unprecedented ultimatum to Cairo to stop ‘media incitement’ following report military has plans to strike terror targets in *****


BY ELHANAN MILLER (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/elhanan-miller/)

Hamas demanded clarifications from the Egyptian government following reports on Thursday that Egypt was planning to strike Gaza as part of its ongoing anti-terror campaign in the Sinai Peninsula.

Reports earlier Thursday said Egypt has drafted plans for attacking targets in the Gaza ***** (http://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-threatens-military-action-against-gaza/), to be implemented in case an escalation in violence against Egyptian troops in Sinai occurs.


“As these media outlets repeat the claim of threats against the [Gaza] *****, we demand an official position from the Egyptian government regarding these statements, which threaten the national security and stability of the Palestinian people,” Hamas government spokesman Ihab Al-Ghosein wrote on his Facebook page.

(…)


Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy tacitly threatened Hamas in an interview with London-based daily Al-Hayat on September 24, saying Egypt would respond “forcefully” if it felt that “Hamas or other elements are trying to harm Egypt’s national security.”

Hamas’s Deputy Foreign Minister Ghazi Hamad called Fahmy’s statements “a dangerous escalation increasing animosity.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-demands-egyptian-clarification-on-gaza-threats/

Camera
10-04-2013, 10:19 AM
Clashes erupt at pro-Morsi demonstrations in Egypt



Clashes have erupted between supporters of Egypt's ousted President Mohammed Morsi, opponents and security forces in the capital, Cairo, and Alexandria.

The BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Cairo said there had been heavy gunfire and explosions in the city centre.

State TV reported further clashes in the northern Sharqiya district and to the east in Giza, as well as in the northern port city of Alexandria.

Hundreds have been killed since the military deposed Mr Morsi in July.
Our correspondent says the protesters in the capital's Agouza district were chanting "Rabaa, Rabaa", a reference to the square next the Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque where a sit-in was cleared by force in August.

Thousands of members of the Muslim Brotherhood have also been detained in the past two months. Several senior figures, including Mr Morsi and the movement's general guide Mohammed Badie, are being held on charges such as incitement to violence and murder.
The authorities portray the crackdown as a struggle against "terrorism".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24402976

Camera
10-04-2013, 10:39 AM
Egypt: Gunmen attack army convoy, killing twoTwo more soldiers sustain injuries in attack on military trucks and armored vehicles near Cairo
BY TONY G. GABRIEL (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/tony-g-gabriel/)

CAIRO (AP) — An Egyptian security official says gunmen have attacked an army convoy east of Cairo, killing two soldiers.

The official says attackers opened fire at the convoy of mostly military trucks towing tanks and other armored vehicles on Friday morning on the road between the Suez Canal city of Ismailia and Cairo.

CONTINUED: http://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-gunmen-attack-army-convoy-killing-two/

Camera
10-07-2013, 06:14 AM
Gunmen kill 5 Egyptian troops near Ismailia

By ARIEL BEN SOLOMON (http://www.jpost.com/Authors/AuthorPage.aspx?id=195), REUTER$
10/07/2013 11:37

Incident comes hours after clashes between Morsi supporters and detractors kill 53 on Yom Kippur War anniversary.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Calm-returns-to-streets-after-Egypt-death-toll-hits-53-328065

tea drinker
10-07-2013, 11:59 AM
A massive explosion, possibly a car bomb, has hit the Egyptian security headquarters in the previously peaceful south of Sinai, killing two people and wounding 48.

The attack in the town of al-Tour significantly damaged the four-storey building and set off small fires.
Security sources said the death toll was likely to rise as rescue workers and residents search for victims under the rubble.
Islamic militants, some with al-Qaida links, have been targeting security forces daily in northern Sinai in what has increasingly become a full-fledged insurgency.
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/explosion-hits-sinai-security-hq-29639909.html

Fade
10-07-2013, 12:46 PM
Panel of Egyptian judges advises dissolving Muslim Brotherhood party


CAIRO, Egypt -- A panel of Egyptian judges has recommended the dissolution of the Muslim Brotherhood's political party, a move that signals a widening crackdown on the group.
The judges' recommendation Monday said the party represents an outlawed group. The recommendations will be delivered to a Cairo court reviewing a case demanding the party's dissolution on Oct. 19.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/panel-of-egyptian-judges-advises-dissolving-muslim-brotherhood-party-1.1486808

Hisroyalhighness
10-09-2013, 11:18 AM
Al Furqan Brigades claim attack on satellite station in Cairo

The Al Furqan Brigades claimed responsibility for yesterday's attack on a satellite station in the Cairo suburb of Maadi (http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/83401/Egypt/Politics-/RPG-attack-on-telecom-facility-in-Cairos-Maadi,-no.aspx), in a video released today. The video shows fighters from the group firing RPGs toward the station.

According to the jihadist group, which has previously targeted ships traveling through the Suez Canal, it struck the station to "make the media of disbelief know that we are coming and we are about to end them." In addition, the jihadist group said it sought "to draw for all of our brothers clear and easy steps in the way of jihad to make it easy for them to follow."

In a statement displayed at the end of the video, which was translated by the SITE Intelligence Group, the Al Furqan Brigades denounced Egyptian security forces as "apostate disbelievers" who should not receive compassion from Egyptians.

The group further called on Egyptian Muslims to "[r]ise for jihad... to fight the apostates." "One bullet in the cause of Allah might be the beginning of the road to victory or martyrdom," the group declared.
Today's video comes a little over a week after the Al Nusrah Battalion, a unit within the al Furqan Brigades, claimed responsibility for a number of recent shooting attacks in Egypt (http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2013/09/egyptian_jihadist_group_claims.php). The group said its attacks targeted "apostates" and "criminals."

In early September (http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2013/09/al_furqan_brigades_claim_two_a.php), the Al Furqan Brigades posted video of its members firing RPGs at a vessel traveling through the Suez Canal. In addition to the video, the group released an online statement, which stated that "the road for Allah's word to be supreme is the ammunition box and not the ballot box."

And on July 29, the Al Furqan Brigades released a statement claiming responsibility for an RPG attack on a ship traveling through the Suez Canal. Video from the purported attack in July was uploaded to YouTube on Aug. 4.

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2013/10/al_furqan_brigades_claim_respo.php#ixzz2hEqXlDNM

Camera
10-12-2013, 03:55 AM
In Gaza, Hamas feels the squeezeAlthough Israel has boosted supplies, Egypt’s crackdown on smuggling tunnels has raised prices in the *****, angered residents, and cost the Islamist government a fortune. It’s still training terrorists, though
BY AVI ISSACHAROFF (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/avi-issacharoff/)

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-gaza-hamas-feels-the-squeeze/

Camera
10-12-2013, 05:26 AM
Al-Qaeda leader urges Egyptian Islamists to uniteAl-Zawahiri calls for popular religious uprising against military, jabs at Muslim Brotherhood for ‘compromising’ with secular groups
BY AP

http://www.timesofisrael.com/al-qaeda-leader-urges-egyptian-islamists-to-unite/

Camera
10-13-2013, 02:17 PM
Attacks on Egypt’s Coptic Christians on the rise
Amnesty International report outlines increasing violence against Copts, with over 200 attacks since Morsi's ouster. 'Scapegoats of regime's forces,' says Amnesty official

The Media Line

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4440155,00.html

Camera
10-13-2013, 02:18 PM
US citizen found dead in Egyptian cell

Officials say James Henry, 55, hanged himself; American was arrested in August for curfew violation

BY LAZAR BERMAN (http://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/lazar-berman/) AND AP

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-citizen-found-dead-in-egyptian-cell/

Camera
10-18-2013, 07:01 AM
Egypt razes groves, homes, smuggling tunnels on Gaza border




Egyptian military reportedly levels 6,000 square meters (64,500 feet) of olive groves, claiming terrorists used them for camouflage to launch attacks against Egyptian border guards, and to smuggle fuel, goods, weapons and drugs.


Israel Hayom Staff and News Agencies

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=12689

Destroying olive groves, that were used by terrorists to take cover, were often decried by Egyptians when the IDF was forced to do it. Now, as the Egypt armed forces face the same problem, they do exactly the same to fight the Islamic fanatics.

Camera
10-19-2013, 09:36 AM
Egypt unrest: Bomb hits Ismailiya intelligence HQ
A car bomb has exploded outside a military intelligence building in the Egyptian city of Ismailiya, north-east of Cairo.

The Egyptian army said six soldiers were injured in the blast, which destroyed part of the building's wall and set fire to several cars.

A second car bomb was found in the area, but experts managed to defuse it, AFP quoted officials as saying.

Witnesses said they had heard loud gunfire around the time of the blast.

Ismailiya and nearby areas have seen regular attacks on the police and military personnel by Islamist militants.

The military has been carrying out a wide-ranging operation against militants in the Sinai Peninsula.

Police and army troops have cordoned the area for security checking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24593270

Camera
11-18-2013, 07:27 AM
Islamists blamed in death of high-ranking Egyptian official

By REUTER$
11/18/2013 13:19

Interior Ministry officer was shot outside his Cairo home yesterday.

(…)

Mabruk, who was shot by masked men, was in charge of monitoring Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood movement in the Interior Ministry's National Security division.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Islamists-blamed-in-death-of-high-ranking-Egyptian-official-332102

Bearpit
11-21-2013, 12:01 PM
If the military did not intervene this Morsi guy would have been hanged from a streetpole.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpHcdORRaBc

m4rs75
01-26-2014, 04:51 AM
The death toll from clashes during protests in Egypt on Saturday rose to 49, Al-Ahram website quoted a health ministry official on January 26.

The fighting erupted on the third anniversary of the uprising which toppled Hosni Mubarak.

m4rs75
01-26-2014, 05:07 AM
Militants have stepped up their campaign against security forces in Egypt with a series of explosions in the Egyptian capital, Cairo.

Six people were killed and some 100 others wounded, with the biggest blast outside Cairo's police headquarters.

The attacks come on the eve of the third anniversary of the 2011 uprising against President Hosni Mubarak.

The explosion outside Cairo's police headquarters left four people dead and wounded at least 76.

Hours later, there were three more blasts elsewhere in the city, killing two people and injuring several more.

Local media report that an al-Qaeda-inspired militant group, Ansar Beit al-Maqdis (Champions of Jerusalem), has said it carried out the attack on the police headquarters.

The group previously claimed responsibility for a car bomb attack on a security building in the northern city of Mansoura in December that killed 16 people and injured more than 100 others.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25874370

m4rs75
01-26-2014, 05:08 AM
An al-Qaida-inspired group based in the Sinai Peninsula has claimed responsibility for bringing down an Egyptian military helicopter in the lawless desert region.

A military spokesman said Saturday the aircraft crashed, without giving a cause or the number of the crew.

Ansar Beit al-Maqdis, or the Champions of Jerusalem, in a statement posted late Saturday on militant websites said it shot down the helicopter with an anti-aircraft missile over the town of Sheikh Zuweyid close to the border with the Gaza *****.

Another poster on the same forum, which jihadist groups typically used to make announcements, said authorities had recovered the bodies of five crewmembers. He gave what he said were their names and ranks, as well as the alleged photo of a pilot.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/26/egypt-militant-group-claims-to-have-shot-down-helicopter-in-sinai/

tea drinker
01-27-2014, 05:49 AM
Alleged footage of the incident. Warning: Includes usual music and paraphernalia associated with this type of vid.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec2_1390770326

m4rs75
01-27-2014, 09:12 AM
Egyptian army chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi has been promoted to the rank of Field Marshal on Monday, fuelling speculation he is about to retire from the military and run for president, AP and ******* reported.

m4rs75
01-27-2014, 10:57 AM
Egypt's Supreme Council of the Armed Forces has given the army chief, Field Marshal Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, green light to run for president, a security source told *******.

Sisi is expected to announce his candidacy within days.

m4rs75
01-28-2014, 07:44 AM
Egypt's state news agency says gunmen have blown up a natural gas pipeline in the Sinai Peninsula. MENA said Tuesday that the explosion took place late Monday night south of el-Arish, AP reported.

The last attack took place 10 days ago.

m4rs75
01-28-2014, 07:49 AM
Gunmen killed a senior Egyptian Interior Ministry official outside his home in Cairo on Tuesday, security officials told *******.

General Mohamed Saeed, head of the technical office of the minister of interior, was targeted by gunmen inside a car who shot him and fled.

tea drinker
02-06-2014, 10:06 AM
CAIRO — In just the last two weeks, Islamist militants have detonated a car bomb at the gates of the capital’s security headquarters, gunned down a senior Interior Ministry official in broad daylight and shot down a military helicopter over Sinai with a portable surface-to-air missile.
But perhaps most alarming to officials in Cairo and Washington are the signs that the swift increase in the scale and effectiveness of the attacks may come from a new influx of fighters: Egyptians returning from jihad abroad to join a campaign of terrorism against the military-backed government.
“Egypt is again an open front for jihad,” said Brian Fishman, a researcher in counterterrorism at the New America Foundation in Washington. “The world is being turned on its head, and, for the United States, the ability to rely on Egypt as a stabilizing force in the region — rather than a source of problems — is really being challenged.”
Well this would have been impossible to predict.... not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/06/world/middleeast/jihadist-return-is-said-to-drive-attacks-in-egypt.html?hp