M4 photo request...

[Machine]

Can someone please post some good recent mil M4 carbine photos? I haven't seen many quality larger scale photos...
Thanks!

[pettifogger]

Force Recon members from the Marine Corps website.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/c537000ba3db513685256ebc003d781f/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-003lores.jpg
Click for hires version (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/c537000ba3db513685256ebc003d781f/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-003.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/bcf0d15ef2398b9a85256ebc003d29cf/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-005lores.jpg
Click for hires version (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/bcf0d15ef2398b9a85256ebc003d29cf/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-005.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/925e1dbe79685fce85256ebc003d3e5d/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-001lores.jpg
Click for hires version (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/925e1dbe79685fce85256ebc003d3e5d/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-001.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/e4f93b8d7e18531285256ce20030c07d/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-005lores.jpg
Click for hires version (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/e4f93b8d7e18531285256ce20030c07d/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-005.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/b42bedaf489fae1785256ce200313438/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-004lores.jpg
Click for hires version (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/b42bedaf489fae1785256ce200313438/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-004.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/d9dec01f054e69fb85256ce20032ae71/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-001lores.jpg
Click for hires version (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/d9dec01f054e69fb85256ce20032ae71/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-001.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/9d1ee5598945442585256ce2003259c5/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-002lores.jpg
Click for hires version (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/9d1ee5598945442585256ce2003259c5/$FILE/030305-M-7371B-002.jpg)

[Machine]

These are excellent! Thank you. I didn't know they used ARMS swan sleeves. Interesting...

[Machine]

Any idea how recent they are?

[pettifogger]

The first group of photos is dated 21 June 2004 (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/lookupstoryref/20046237624) and the second group of photos is dated 5 March 2003 (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/lookupstoryref/20033734035).

[ChuckThunder]

The first three pics are actually SF, not Marines.

[thatguy96]

Force Recon Marines aren't Marines?

[pettifogger]

From the link that I already gave, which was the source of the first three photographs.



CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. (June 21, 2004) -- Marines of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit's Force Reconnaissance Platoon spent a day working on their shooting skills at the Dodge City range here June 17.

During the shoot, the Marines worked on quick-reaction drills, fired at targets while on the move, and conducted weapons-failure drills while engaging targets up to 25 meters away with M-4 rifles.

The shoot was one of the MEU's last training evolutions as the unit makes final preparations to deploy early next month.

[ctcboy]

Good find man. Thanks.

[Replicator]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Replicator-Gun-Works/aan

This is what I built for me!!!
(first born)

[molsen]

The first three pics are actually SF, not Marines.

Chuck, if you don't know what you're talking about, then SHUT THE **** UP!!!! They are Marines, NOT Special Forces. Read this story, then look at the pictures. I used to be roommates with one of those Marines back in the day.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/ac95bc775efc34c685256ab50049d458/439754ed38cad8bb85256ebc003d030e?OpenDocument

[Sir Zach of R.]

Anyone got any pics of Det1?

[pettifogger]

Scanned from the December 2003 issue of SWAT Magazine. Pat Rogers wrote an extensive article on Marine Corps Detachment One, USSOCOM (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/lookupstoryref/2003103184013) and the Kimber MCP-1 selected as the ICQB (Interim Close Quarters Battle) pistol. This pistol is commercially available as the Kimber Warrior. The Kimber is only for Det 1, and is not a replacement for the MEU(SOC) pistol issued to Force Recon. The MEU (SOC) pistol will be replaced by the Improved MEU (SOC) pistol.

http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wcchang/MCSOCOM1.jpg
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wcchang/MCSOCOM2.jpg

Interesting things to note are the use of the Tangodown Battlegrip and the Magpul 93 Modular Stock System on their M4A1 CQBWs. They have since upgraded to the Magpul 93A (http://www.bizplaces.com/magpul/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=9741). They are also using the Eagle-manufactured Maritime Load Carriage System (MLCS). The Blackhawk Industries STRIKE line is a copy of the MLCS gear.

[Beardog]

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/block1.jpg

:)

[Beardog]

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/ffrasmodrlext.jpg

;)

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/laser-VLI-6.jpg

[ChuckThunder]

The first three pics are actually SF, not Marines.

Chuck, if you don't know what you're talking about, then SHUT THE f*** UP!!!! They are Marines, NOT Special Forces. Read this story, then look at the pictures. I used to be roommates with one of those Marines back in the day.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/ac95bc775efc34c685256ab50049d458/439754ed38cad8bb85256ebc003d030e?OpenDocument

They're from 1/5th SF. So SHUT THE **** UP!!!! ;)

I saw the pictures filed with the story. It is a mix up between DoD media sites and it happens a lot.

[pettifogger]

Because of the smiley face, I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic.

If they are 5th SFG(A), then they're wearing the same exact gear and equipment that Force Recon Marines use. They have the same khaki flight suits and MICH helmets. You can compare to the other pictures.

They have the same FSBE AAV that is issued to Force Recon. You can tell by the cut, the buckle layout and the amount of PALS webbing.
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wcchang/USMC/FSBE.jpg

This is the 8"x8" pouch from the old Close Quarter Battle Equipment (CQBE), also known as the "Green Monster", which was issued before the FSBE gear.
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wcchang/USMC/dump.jpg

They have the Belleville desert boots used by the Marines.
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wcchang/USMC/boots.jpg

I'm pretty sure with the Gemtech lanyard, the Wilson-Rogers magazine, the Pachmyr grips, the ambidextrous thumb safety, that this is a MEU(SOC) pistol.
http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wcchang/USMC/MEUSOC.jpg

[molsen]

molsen wrote:
Quote:
The first three pics are actually SF, not Marines.


Chuck, if you don't know what you're talking about, then SHUT THE f*** UP!!!! They are Marines, NOT Special Forces. Read this story, then look at the pictures. I used to be roommates with one of those Marines back in the day.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/ac95bc775efc34c685256ab50049d458/439754ed38cad8bb85256ebc003d030e?OpenDocument


They're from 1/5th SF. So SHUT THE f*** UP!!!!

I saw the pictures filed with the story. It is a mix up between DoD media sites and it happens a lot.

Wow. You really know you're stuff. Have you ever worn a uniform for your country? I have. It's too bad that you're from Annapolis, because you really could learn a thing or two from the Mids at USNA. Pettifogger pretty much proved it just from the pictures posted with the article, but like I said before, I know the guys in the picture, and since I know that they are both 2nd Force and SOTG, FROM THE MARINE CORPS!!!!, then I guess I know that I'm right and you're wrong. You, along with 99% of the other wanna-bes/never-gonna-bes from this site, need to learn to shut up and listen to people that are on the inside.

I wonder how pictures can be "misfiled" from various DoD sites when each service runs their own site. Can you tell me this? The person that wrote said article is a Marine, is stationed at a Marine Corps base, more than likely works in the 24th MEU's PAO, and submitted it for publication on the Marine Corps website. Tell me where the Army or 5th SFG comes into this picture?

Like I said before, if you don't know what you're talking about, then shut up, esp if you're not on the inside, WHICH YOU'RE NOT!!!!! But what do I know, I'm just a Marine in real life, I don't pretend to be something I'm not, what about you?

[DE_Six]

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http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wcchang/USMC/FSBE.jpg


And they also have the USMC-issue IFAK. Brown, square pouch, bottom right of the back.

They also have ARMS Swan sleeve and M68 lever mount. Many pics show FR Marines using those.

[ChuckThunder]

molsen wrote:
Quote:
The first three pics are actually SF, not Marines.


Chuck, if you don't know what you're talking about, then SHUT THE f*** UP!!!! They are Marines, NOT Special Forces. Read this story, then look at the pictures. I used to be roommates with one of those Marines back in the day.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/ac95bc775efc34c685256ab50049d458/439754ed38cad8bb85256ebc003d030e?OpenDocument


They're from 1/5th SF. So SHUT THE f*** UP!!!!

I saw the pictures filed with the story. It is a mix up between DoD media sites and it happens a lot.

Wow. You really know you're stuff. Have you ever worn a uniform for your country? I have. It's too bad that you're from Annapolis, because you really could learn a thing or two from the Mids at USNA. Pettifogger pretty much proved it just from the pictures posted with the article, but like I said before, I know the guys in the picture, and since I know that they are both 2nd Force and SOTG, FROM THE MARINE CORPS!!!!, then I guess I know that I'm right and you're wrong. You, along with 99% of the other wanna-bes/never-gonna-bes from this site, need to learn to shut up and listen to people that are on the inside.

I wonder how pictures can be "misfiled" from various DoD sites when each service runs their own site. Can you tell me this? The person that wrote said article is a Marine, is stationed at a Marine Corps base, more than likely works in the 24th MEU's PAO, and submitted it for publication on the Marine Corps website. Tell me where the Army or 5th SFG comes into this picture?

Like I said before, if you don't know what you're talking about, then shut up, esp if you're not on the inside, WHICH YOU'RE NOT!!!!! But what do I know, I'm just a Marine in real life, I don't pretend to be something I'm not, what about you?

I got this info from an active duty SF soldier, who identified the men in the photo by face. Whether you believe me or not I don't care.

[thatguy96]

IDed them by face? You mean he IDed the guy in the first picture only then, because it looks to me that in the whole batch of those photos its the only one where you have anywhere close to a clean look at the guy's face.

[James]

God bless! Relax guys... I think that you can both agree that they are carrying M4s, right?

[molsen]

I got this info from an active duty SF soldier, who identified the men in the photo by face. Whether you believe me or not I don't care.
Well, I don't believe you, or this "active duty SF soldier" you talked to. How can you identify them when you can't even see their faces? Try explaining that one to me. Quit digging yourself a deeper hole.

[ChuckThunder]

I got this info from an active duty SF soldier, who identified the men in the photo by face. Whether you believe me or not I don't care.
Well, I don't believe you, or this "active duty SF soldier" you talked to. How can you identify them when you can't even see their faces? Try explaining that one to me. Quit digging yourself a deeper hole.


I know the guys in the picture, and since I know that they are both 2nd Force and SOTG, FROM THE MARINE CORPS!!!!

[molsen]

Ok, I guess I'll have to write this so that even an elementary school kid can understand. Go to the original link to the Marine Coprs website where those pictures came from (here, since I don't want to confuse you: http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/ac95bc775efc34c685256ab50049d458/439754ed38cad8bb85256ebc003d030e?OpenDocument )
Did you notice how there are a couple more pictures to the photo essay than posted in the beginning of this thread? In particular, this picture: http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/4172491f8b13bb1485256ebc003d56ea/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-002.jpg I used to be stationed with the guy on the left, the one in the ballcap. The photo essay is about the Force Recon Plt attached to the 24th MEU, which is deployed. I know many people from that MEU, and a few of them are in that plt. I did a little checking before I even posted on this thread in the first place, so when I made my first post, I knew I had all my facts right. Now the instructor is the only face that is clear enough to identify, but since the pictures are of the DAP plt, then you really don't need their faces at all. How can your "SF soldier friend" identify them?

[ChuckThunder]

Ok, I guess I'll have to write this so that even an elementary school kid can understand. Go to the original link to the Marine Coprs website where those pictures came from (here, since I don't want to confuse you: http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/ac95bc775efc34c685256ab50049d458/439754ed38cad8bb85256ebc003d030e?OpenDocument )
Did you notice how there are a couple more pictures to the photo essay than posted in the beginning of this thread? In particular, this picture: http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/4172491f8b13bb1485256ebc003d56ea/$FILE/040617-M-7371B-002.jpg I used to be stationed with the guy on the left, the one in the ballcap. The photo essay is about the Force Recon Plt attached to the 24th MEU, which is deployed. I know many people from that MEU, and a few of them are in that plt. I did a little checking before I even posted on this thread in the first place, so when I made my first post, I knew I had all my facts right. Now the instructor is the only face that is clear enough to identify, but since the pictures are of the DAP plt, then you really don't need their faces at all. How can your "SF soldier friend" identify them?

That is how he ID'ed them, he knows them, only difference is he says they're A Company, 1/5th SF.

[Replicator]

M4???
I think sohttp://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Replicator-Gun-Works/aan.jpg

[MEGR]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/devgru/41265606haq_20021027_00122.sized.jpg

Shorty M4.. One of my faves :)

[Tranceaddict]

does it matter if its airsoft crap?

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/5880/DSC49.jpg

[Ratamacue]

Chuck, bro, give it up. As Pettifogger showed, you need only look at their gear to see that they're Marines. Virtually everything they're using is issued to Force Recon. They're not SF.

[Machine]

Unless Army SF is now using MEU(SOC) 1911's :D

[Va_Dinger]

The first three pics are actually SF, not Marines.

Sory, but you are incorrect. They are all photos of Recon Marines.

[M4Guru]

Ditto. They're not SF.

[James]

Are they from the Air Force?

[Va_Dinger]

Are they from the Air Force?

No they are Recon Marines.

[MVSpartan117]

Are they from the Air Force?

lol :lol:

I think that was a joke ;)

[HoboWithAK]

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/ffrasmodrlext.jpg

;)




Whats the barrel length on that? Looks long to me for some reason.

[Frens]

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/ffrasmodrlext.jpg

;)




Whats the barrel length on that? Looks long to me for some reason.

looks 14,5" to me ;)

[AussieTurretHead]

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/ffrasmodrlext.jpg

;)




Whats the barrel length on that? Looks long to me for some reason.

The accessories rails extend past the front sight and give the illusion of a different barrel length probably on account of the forestock looking longer than it is.
Apologies if I'm stating the obvious ;)

[SMGLee]

http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/ffrasmodrlext.jpg

;)




Whats the barrel length on that? Looks long to me for some reason.

That rifle is build on a Colt 14.5 inc h barrel with KAC FF RAS MRE handguard.

It is one of MSTN's gun.

[szr]

Ya, they're Force Recon Marines, and here are some more, from yesterday's Today's Pics (Note the gear):
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/2004927135819/$file/040922-M-1195M-510-low.jpg
Hi-res (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/af9343637d85f44285256f1c0062b964/$FILE/040922-M-1195M-510.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/2004927135857/$file/040922-M-1195M-504-low.jpg
Hi-res (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/2004927135857/$file/040922-M-1195M-504.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/200492714537/$file/040922-M-1195M-501-low.jpg
Hi-res (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/200492714537/$file/040922-M-1195M-501.jpg)
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/200492714059/$file/040922-M-1195M-520-low.jpg
Hi-res (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/200492714059/$file/040922-M-1195M-520.jpg)

[szr]

Didn't realize this was an old topic. :cantbeli:

[AussieTurretHead]

Didn't realize this was an old topic. :cantbeli:

I wouldn't worry too much about that, I already made the grand screw-up by posting to this thread without remembering that it was an older one and thereby bringing it back up.
Serves myself right for not paying attention...