Polish "Krab" 155mm self-propelled howitzer

[2RHPZ]

http://www.jedsite.info/fulltrack/kilo/kalina_series/krab/krab_001.jpg


The 'Chrobry' or 'Krab' is a Polish variant of the British self-propelled howitzer AS 90. It has the same turret as the AS 90 Braveheart with a 155mm 52 calibre gun; but with different machine gun and SGD. The Polish army plans to buy 80 vehicles.

More info also at http://www.cpw.hsw.pl/pdf/ekrab.pdf

[EasyC]

holy **** that thing is huge!

[ShakesFIST]

Looks pretty standard size to me. I'm used to M109A6 Paladins when it comes to artillery.

[EasyC]

Yeah true, the paladin is a mighty mighty weapon, have any good shots of some going off???

[perdurabo]

Looks pretty standard size to me. I'm used to M109A6 Paladins when it comes to artillery.
but Palladin has shorter barrel ??

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Looks pretty standard size to me. I'm used to M109A6 Paladins when it comes to artillery.
but Palladin has shorter barrel ??

Yup. L/39 compared to Krab's L/55.

The sad thing is that MoND's priority are special/light/air-mobile/airborne/peacekeeping forces, and the SPH program has huge delay...

[EasyC]

is this the paladin gun?

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/6514/Artilleryblast.jpg

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

is this the paladin gun?

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/6514/Artilleryblast.jpg

No, it's the Crusader, Paladin's succesor (it was cancelled last year).

M109 Paladin:

http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/vehicles_folder/forces_of_valor/FofV-pix09-12-03/81016Paladin.jpg

http://www.combatindex.com/store/tech_man/m109_01.jpg

[EasyC]

why they cancel it, looks pretty good to me.

[American Patriot]

why they cancel it, looks pretty good to me.

secdef Rumsfeld's vision of smaller, lighter Military.

[EasyC]

:cantbeli: silly Rumsfeld.

[perdurabo]

Looks pretty standard size to me. I'm used to M109A6 Paladins when it comes to artillery.
but Palladin has shorter barrel ??

Yup. L/39 compared to Krab's L/55.

The sad thing is that MoND's priority are special/light/air-mobile/airborne/peacekeeping forces, and the SPH program has huge delay...
yup :(
i think we need whole new idea for our military networkized with long term strategy etc there is no project like FCS :( but the worst are politics and moust of ppl they dosent know what military is for :(

[oldsoak]

Looks good kit. AS90 apparently did pretty well in Telic, so the Polish version shouldbe good.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

some pics:
http://www.bulba.eu.org/mil/free/gp/krab(2).jpg

http://www.bulba.eu.org/mil/free/gp/krab.jpg

http://www.bulba.eu.org/mil/free/gp/krab(5).jpg

http://www.bulba.eu.org/mil/free/gp/krab(4).jpg

AS-52
http://www.bulba.eu.org/mil/free/gp/as52.jpg

Changes in Polish variant:
- new chassis
- Polish electronics (FCS, radios, intercom)
- new C4I and logistics systems.

Question to the Brits here:
Will British AS-90s be upgraded to AS-52 version?

[EasyC]

that barrel really is stupidly long.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

yup :(
i think we need whole new idea for our military networkized with long term strategy etc there is no project like FCS :( but the worst are politics and moust of ppl they dosent know what military is for :(

Eh, true
There are 2003-2008 and 2005-2010 modernisation plans but government says that they must be kept in secret :roll:
And probably next year Komorowski will be back as a MoND. I wonder what plans does he have...

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

that barrel really is stupidly long.

But thank to it the gun's range is over 40km...

[oldsoak]

Looks it eh ? But it puts a 155m shell in a tennis court at 40+km which is fine by the guys that need it !

[EasyC]

40 km is ridiculous, whatever happened to fighting a "gentlemens" war.

[oldsoak]

40 km is ridiculous, whatever happened to fighting a "gentlemens" war.

Its still there. Wouldnt dream of bombarding the opposition with anything other than the very best shells, old chap. It just wouldnt be right.

[EasyC]

lol, no i was being stupid, i meant the gentlemens war as the old musket battles, u know line up and let the opposition blast bits of meat off you. And if u actually survive, you get a chance at the bastard who had a go at you!

[ShakesFIST]

Theres nothing wrong with and early morning "Shake 'N Bake" from 40k away ;)

[EasyC]

40km's away is still stupid, and inside the area of a tennis court is getting stupid too. i think i'll cry.