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Spartan10k
06-13-2011, 12:35 PM
Chinese migrant workers have clashed with police for a third consecutive night outside the southern city of Guangzhou. About 1,000 protesters set fire to cars and damaged government buildings on Sunday night near the city in China's manufacturing heartland, reports said.

Police reportedly fired tear gas and deployed armoured vehicles.

The protests began over the alleged mistreatment of a pregnant migrant worker by security guards.

Eyewitnesses said she fell to the ground - some say she was pushed - after a disagreement with security officials, who wanted her to move her stall from in front of a supermarket.

When news of the incident spread, other migrant workers - most from far-off Sichuan province - went on the rampage, says the BBC's Michael Bristow in Beijing.

Bricks and bottles were thrown at police, windows were smashed, and police vehicles were overturned, reports said.

At least 25 people have been arrested.
Full article here, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13746989

Rahlgd
06-13-2011, 04:09 PM
I'm glad that the Chinese are confronting their government, the sad thing though it's likely to be crushed :/ Good luck to all the Chinese fighting for a better life!!

Ordie
06-13-2011, 04:49 PM
I'm glad that the Chinese are confronting their government, the sad thing though it's likely to be crushed :/ Good luck to all the Chinese fighting for a better life!!

The Taiping Rebellion failed, but it weakened the Qing Dynasty.
Which eventually lost the Mandate if Heaven and led to the Chinese Republic and People's Republic.

dttk0009
06-13-2011, 10:24 PM
I hope they're arrested and held accountable for their actions. Destroying private and public property is not a proper way to voice your disagreement with the police force. I know what it's like to be caught up in one of these emotionally fueled rampages (as an innocent bystander), and it's very unpleasant. When people start going into a frenzy and the pack mentality kicks in it's safest to lock your doors and wait it out, hoping your car won't get torched.


I'm glad that the Chinese are confronting their government, the sad thing though it's likely to be crushed :/ Good luck to all the Chinese fighting for a better life!!

This isn't 'The Chinese' confronting the government. This is 1000 guys in a city of 6 million setting private and public property on fire. Don't support this kind of crap overseas unless you're willing to support it back home as well.

Hawaii_Light
06-14-2011, 01:27 AM
I hope they're arrested and held accountable for their actions. Destroying private and public property is not a proper way to voice your disagreement with the police force. I know what it's like to be caught up in one of these emotionally fueled rampages (as an innocent bystander), and it's very unpleasant. When people start going into a frenzy and the pack mentality kicks in it's safest to lock your doors and wait it out, hoping your car won't get torched.



This isn't 'The Chinese' confronting the government. This is 1000 guys in a city of 6 million setting private and public property on fire. Don't support this kind of crap overseas unless you're willing to support it back home as well.

I suppose if my government supported inhuman treatment of migrant workers and continued to suppress my freedom I definitely would advocate for their destruction. It is unfortunate that private and public property is destroyed in such situations, but one must understand that they are nothing more then objects, which can be fixed and purchased. there are things far more important then those objects and for those that cannot understand that then I believe that it is only because of their own fear which holds them in their disbelief.

Fear all and collect your belongings, for those who have nothing to lose, there is little to fear, except fear itself.

dttk0009
06-14-2011, 02:56 AM
I suppose if my government supported inhuman treatment of migrant workers and continued to suppress my freedom I definitely would advocate for their destruction. It is unfortunate that private and public property is destroyed in such situations, but one must understand that they are nothing more then objects, which can be fixed and purchased. there are things far more important then those objects and for those that cannot understand that then I believe that it is only because of their own fear which holds them in their disbelief.

Fear all and collect your belongings, for those who have nothing to lose, there is little to fear, except fear itself.
I see where you're coming from HL, but this article states that the migrant worker was mistreated by security guards, which are usually employed by private companies (at least this is the case here). Would you advocate a riot in the US in light of the recent video that showed a policeman violently tackling that 15 year old girl to the ground, assaulting police officers and destroying property? When it comes to real, powerful protests, like the Tienamin protests, of course that should be fully supported. It was the people's voices uniting for a common cause. However, 1000 running amok is less than what you'd usually get in post-soccer game riots in Europe. It's pretty much just hooliganism.
Yes, migrant workers are treated like crap in China, but guess what, they're treated like crap in virtually every single country in South East Asia (you should know this), the Middle East, Africa and even some European countries and the US. This isn't just an issue in China, it's an issue worldwide, and has been one for a long, long time.

Hawaii_Light
06-14-2011, 07:45 AM
I see where you're coming from HL, but this article states that the migrant worker was mistreated by security guards, which are usually employed by private companies (at least this is the case here). Would you advocate a riot in the US in light of the recent video that showed a policeman violently tackling that 15 year old girl to the ground, assaulting police officers and destroying property? When it comes to real, powerful protests, like the Tienamin protests, of course that should be fully supported. It was the people's voices uniting for a common cause. However, 1000 running amok is less than what you'd usually get in post-soccer game riots in Europe. It's pretty much just hooliganism.
Yes, migrant workers are treated like crap in China, but guess what, they're treated like crap in virtually every single country in South East Asia (you should know this), the Middle East, Africa and even some European countries and the US. This isn't just an issue in China, it's an issue worldwide, and has been one for a long, long time.

I completely agree, I am just thinking that in the case of Tunisia it only took a man being slapped in the face from a female police officer to in some ways ignite the current ME revolts. So in many instances such small things lead to very large and perhaps more legitimate reasons taking hold. I have a hard time comparing incidents in the U.S to this for the very instance that Americans have ways to achieve justice nonviolently. As is the case in many countries in Asia which you pointed out, justice is unattainable for people considered to be lowly and weak, but just because that is reality, dose not mean that it should be reality.

Therefore I maintain that this sort disobedient behavior should be expected as it is not the problem, rather then the symptom of a problem that the Chinese need to address properly, which I believe incorporates both force to ensure authority, mercy to create peace, and take steps to identify the problems that these workers are facing and work to alleviate the pressures and inherent lack of fairness in Chinese society. Or suffer the consequences.

TheDarkSide
06-14-2011, 07:50 AM
so are this chines or non-chines, kinda confused now :|

Hawaii_Light
06-14-2011, 08:59 AM
so are this chines or non-chines, kinda confused now :|

Internal migrants, so Chinese labour class