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Double Tap
08-25-2004, 06:17 PM
http://img59.exs.cx/img59/2313/Unlucky.jpg

moughoun
08-25-2004, 06:21 PM
It looks like he's wanking!! rofl

scm77
08-25-2004, 06:27 PM
Where did you get that from??

P.S. it really does look like he's wanking. :lol:

Pook2
08-25-2004, 06:29 PM
its obvious he's shining boots

bloddyaxe
08-25-2004, 06:31 PM
fekk 'es gonna shoot him in the scarf...

scm77
08-25-2004, 06:38 PM
its obvious he's shining boots

I think he's polishing something else. ;)

scm77
08-25-2004, 06:38 PM
Double Post :oops:

flickme
08-25-2004, 06:38 PM
Maybe the sniper is just gonna shoot his scarf to let him know hes been caught wankin. :cantbeli:

moughoun
08-25-2004, 06:39 PM
its obvious he's shining boots

I think he's polishing something else. ;)

Weasel....monkey...snake...Budanski!! p-)

basket of soft kittens
08-25-2004, 06:39 PM
its obvious he's shining boots
is that what you kids call masturbation these day? ohh i cant keep up whith your whippersnaps lingo

moughoun
08-25-2004, 06:41 PM
I've had a closer look at the pic.......he's sticking his finger down the barrel of the rifle between his legs!! :cantbeli:

Argyll
08-25-2004, 06:56 PM
nice picture,but photoshopped

moughoun
08-25-2004, 06:58 PM
nice picture,but photoshopped

thought so ;)

Roger Rabbit
08-25-2004, 07:00 PM
Just curious, how can you tell its photoshopped?

Apart from i'd have thought it highly unlikely for a sniper to take a picture like this.

Double Tap
08-25-2004, 07:03 PM
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/categories.php?cat_id=2
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/categories.php?cat_id=1
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/index.php

FutureGrunt
08-25-2004, 07:04 PM
That picture finally explains what Iraqis do with their shoes when they go to battle. They even posted a guard to watch them shoes while they fight :D

GrantT
08-25-2004, 07:08 PM
nice picture,but photoshopped

Explain...

cazorp
08-25-2004, 07:20 PM
Never seen a Mil-Dot Reticle who looks like that... Id say Photoshopped, Its really hard to take pictures through scopes on free-hand, and I dont think US Snipers spend time trying to take a neat picture of their pray..

ibstolidude
08-25-2004, 07:24 PM
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/categories.php?cat_id=2
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/categories.php?cat_id=1
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/index.php

LOL - 2nd click on that site and I found a friend and ex-det mate! Some of those pics must have come from snipersparadise (Tac Pro)

Argyll
08-25-2004, 07:33 PM
nice picture,but photoshopped

Explain...

Perspective

Far
08-25-2004, 07:38 PM
Never seen a Mil-Dot Reticle who looks like that... Id say Photoshopped, Its really hard to take pictures through scopes on free-hand, and I dont think US Snipers spend time trying to take a neat picture of their pray..


Looks like an Army mil-dot. Not sure about the sides though. Way too clear not to be photo shopped, IMO.

http://www.paganini.it/Leupold/reticles/millclos.gif

DE_Six
08-25-2004, 07:44 PM
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/details.php?image_id=22
:lol:

scm77
08-25-2004, 07:51 PM
rofl

I've seen that picture before, without the faces black out. Much better.

hood
08-25-2004, 08:04 PM
Although I can't show it here, another sniper's view through a scope photo was submitted a while back that was genuine, and it had a far greater haze around the edges than this one, which hardly has any. The reticle looks too unaffected by the curvature of the lense here. That said, there's pics like Ichbabe sent in (close to the beginning of this site's existence) that's sharp as a tack.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Norwegians_in_Afghanistan/I_sikte_I

scrybe
08-25-2004, 08:05 PM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

Argyll
08-25-2004, 08:08 PM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

Not that hard,the gaming community has been doing this for years,especially for Ghost Recon

Laworkerbee
08-25-2004, 08:29 PM
the shoes are lying around because most likely its noon prayer time, and he is likely gaurding them as they do.

Muslims remove shoes when praying at a mosque, not sure about out in the open.

scrybe
08-25-2004, 08:53 PM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

Not that hard,the gaming community has been doing this for years,especially for Ghost Recon

Yea, that would just require importing a sprite. Not difficult with the right plug-ins.

EDIT: And I said that was the hardest part, but it isn't really difficult to begin with.

cqbrdy
08-25-2004, 08:54 PM
yeah they take their shoes off
but have their gun right beside them praying to allah
kinda like a christian would after going out hunting for food
but, NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wilco
08-25-2004, 09:04 PM
"Shot"



















"Splash"

moughoun
08-25-2004, 09:08 PM
http://img59.exs.cx/img59/2313/Unlucky.jpg

well there's too much clear scope around the edge's, this look's like it was taken through a window maybe, the whole shot is just too "open" not at all what looking through a scope looks like


does anyone else notice a strange kind of "hazyness" in the pic?, it could be a window or lens distortion

Fintin
08-25-2004, 09:12 PM
well there's too much clear scope around the edge's, this look's like it was taken through a window maybe, the whole shot is just too "open" not at all what looking through a scope looks like

you would think you knew something tough guy...::puts fake head in window to avoid retaliation::...im fine living on the floor

Double Tap
08-25-2004, 09:24 PM
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/31/aab1554.jpg

then is this real?

moughoun
08-25-2004, 09:25 PM
well there's too much clear scope around the edge's, this look's like it was taken through a window maybe, the whole shot is just too "open" not at all what looking through a scope looks like

you would think you knew something tough guy...::puts fake head in window to avoid retaliation::...im fine living on the floor

* note to self, kill Fintin, buy milk, feed dog's, go to Doctor to find out cause of crotch itch*

moughoun
08-25-2004, 09:29 PM
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/31/aab1554.jpg

then is this real?

Well,I'll say, it's got alot of the right qualities to be real, slight distortion, slighty washed out colour, the mil-dot look's real, I'd say it could be,but I'll put money on it you'll say it isn't, that would be my luck :|

ChuckThunder
08-25-2004, 09:33 PM
http://img58.photobucket.com/albums/v176/MrJoshua/M24.jpg

moughoun
08-25-2004, 09:37 PM
http://img58.photobucket.com/albums/v176/MrJoshua/M24.jpg

Where are you lad'sgetting all these mad pics ;), same as the one above but a bit better, real I'd say, although the scope resolution on US scope's seem's a little "poor" :|, do you know what make?

Ratamacue
08-25-2004, 09:38 PM
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/31/aab1554.jpg
Well,I'll say, it's got alot of the right qualities to be real, slight distortion, slighty washed out colour, the mil-dot look's real, I'd say it could be,but I'll put money on it you'll say it isn't, that would be my luck :|
I believe that picture was posted awhile back by a Marine sniper who'd taken it during (or after, I forget) the war, or at least so he claimed. Pretty sure it's real.

Ichhabe
08-25-2004, 09:43 PM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

How do you know that it is photoshopped? Did you sit next to me when the pictures was uploaded to the laptop in our tent at BAF? No, cause we were just two people there at that time. And the other one was a Norwegian too. These pics are NOT photoshopped, wether you like it or not!

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483208_isiktei.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483247_isikteii.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483290_isikteiii.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483325_isikteiv.jpg

I have some more of these pictures aswell. Those who did not turn out so good. I will try to locate them aswell. Photoshopped my ass!!! Argh!

moughoun
08-25-2004, 09:46 PM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

How do you know that it is photoshopped? Did you sit next to me when the pictures was uploaded to the laptop in our tent at BAF? No, cause we were just two people there at that time. And the other one was a Norwegian too. These pics are NOT photoshopped, wether you like it or not!

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483208_isiktei.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483247_isikteii.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483290_isikteiii.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/385_1093483325_isikteiv.jpg

I have some more of these pictures aswell. Those who did not turn out so good. I will try to locate them aswell. Photoshopped my ass!!! Argh!

He wasn't talking about your pic's but the original one that started the thread, ease down big fella, ease down ;)

Ichhabe
08-25-2004, 09:48 PM
Well, my picture has been debated in my album-section and a lot of "experts" has doomed it as photoshopped. Well, I maybe read that a bit quickly I see that now. But hey! At least you got 3 more pictures out of it. :D

moughoun
08-25-2004, 09:51 PM
Well, my picture has been debated in my album-section and a lot of "experts" has doomed it as photoshopped. Well, I maybe read that a bit quickly I see that now. But hey! At least you got 3 more pictures out of it. :D

And great pic's they are at that :D

usa320
08-25-2004, 10:35 PM
looks like hes having a fiddle with his tiddle...

:lol:

el_kab0ng
08-25-2004, 10:52 PM
To add to the traditional mildot reticle shots...

http://www.reject.org/pr0ject/pictolas/sniper_spot.jpg

scrybe
08-25-2004, 11:03 PM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

How do you know that it is photoshopped? Did you sit next to me when the pictures was uploaded to the laptop in our tent at BAF? No, cause we were just two people there at that time. And the other one was a Norwegian too. These pics are NOT photoshopped, wether you like it or not!

I have some more of these pictures aswell. Those who did not turn out so good. I will try to locate them aswell. Photoshopped my ass!!! Argh!

He wasn't talking about your pic's but the original one that started the thread, ease down big fella, ease down ;)

Can't blame someone for being sceptical of what is posted on an anonymous forum.

Identity31690
08-25-2004, 11:04 PM
.delete.

ZeroPositive
08-25-2004, 11:18 PM
lol nice one
even if photo shoped

Ichhabe
08-26-2004, 12:06 AM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

How do you know that it is photoshopped? Did you sit next to me when the pictures was uploaded to the laptop in our tent at BAF? No, cause we were just two people there at that time. And the other one was a Norwegian too. These pics are NOT photoshopped, wether you like it or not!

I have some more of these pictures aswell. Those who did not turn out so good. I will try to locate them aswell. Photoshopped my ass!!! Argh!

He wasn't talking about your pic's but the original one that started the thread, ease down big fella, ease down ;)

Can't blame someone for being sceptical of what is posted on an anonymous forum.

Then you actually can't trust anything. Even yourself could be an illusion. Eh? Ever give that a thought?

scrybe
08-26-2004, 01:07 AM
Then you actually can't trust anything.


Welcome to life.

angry cow
08-26-2004, 01:26 AM
Wow, this has gotten really deep, about as deep as a 12 year old. Anywho, I took some pics through my scope to see if it would work with a POS disposable camera, and it didn't. Another guy in my ROTC battalion however was able to get this awesome lens extension widget-thing that fit into the scope so that the mil-dots were up close like in that pic. So it is certainly possible to get a picture up-close like that if someone had thought ahead to get the adapter or had a camera that could zoom nicely. Alright have a good one folks.

PS: Ichhabe's pics are real you mofos, get over it. You may know photoshop, but he went to the sandbox and ate dirt. So enjoy the pictures and go back to jacking off.

PSS: I figured it out, these are pictures of airsofters in Najaf taking a break from getting their asses kicked all over the damn place.

PSSS: Just realized that they are Mil dots, just not from the US standard scope, possibly from a PMC. Who are much more likely to have stopped and taken a picture dont you think?

Helly
08-26-2004, 01:50 AM
PS: Ichhabe's pics are real you mofos, get over it. You may know photoshop, but he went to the sandbox and ate dirt. So enjoy the pictures and go back to jacking off.

Them "mofos" weren't talking about Ichhabe's pictures, you a-hole. Get a clue.

scrybe
08-26-2004, 03:55 AM
Wow this got out of hand. A few of us were analysing whether or not the pics could be created in photoshop. Were they? I dunno. Could they have been? Probably. Then there was a misunderstanding with some totally unrelated pics. None of this was necesarry. Let's try to keep it on topic.

graphicsguy at PH
08-26-2004, 09:10 AM
Whos the idiot pointing his weapon at his own troops.....

Anyways hate to burst your bubbles gentlemen BUT there is such an animal as a LE Adapter. This little gizzmo will let you connect a point and shoot to most any type of Spotting, rifle scope or telescope ect, and the picture quality is superb. No vignette.
http://www.lensadapter.com/

Argyll
08-26-2004, 09:18 AM
I would say photoshopped as well. It's really easy, actually. They just used the picture of militiaman as the bottom layer, than stuck the crosshairs image over it.

The hardest part would be finding the crosshairs pre-cleaned, or doing the dirty work of cropping the crosshairs. Even that way, I'd say it was a 20 minute max photoshop job.

Not that hard,the gaming community has been doing this for years,especially for Ghost Recon

Yea, that would just require importing a sprite. Not difficult with the right plug-ins.

EDIT: And I said that was the hardest part, but it isn't really difficult to begin with.

I was talking about the cross hairs/reticules

Far
08-26-2004, 12:44 PM
http://img59.exs.cx/img59/2313/Unlucky.jpg

well there's too much clear scope around the edge's, this look's like it was taken through a window maybe, the whole shot is just too "open" not at all what looking through a scope looks like


does anyone else notice a strange kind of "hazyness" in the pic?, it could be a window or lens distortion

Another "hazey" view:

http://www.snipercountry.com/photogallery/Crosshairs.jpg

Raistlin
08-26-2004, 01:02 PM
does anyone else notice a strange kind of "hazyness" in the pic?, it could be a window or lens distortion
I believe those are jpeg compression artifacts. Why would people still save with such high compression in the broadband age? The lossiness and bluriness really make it dificult on telling whether the image is real or not :(

moughoun
08-26-2004, 01:44 PM
does anyone else notice a strange kind of "hazyness" in the pic?, it could be a window or lens distortion
I believe those are jpeg compression artifacts. Why would people still save with such high compression in the broadband age? The lossiness and bluriness really make it dificult on telling whether the image is real or not :(

It's in the top left of the pic, the rest seem's pretty clear

Raistlin
08-26-2004, 01:56 PM
Yes, now I see it. The black level goes down there. IMHO it's either faked, or reflected from some glass (window or scope).

One_A
08-26-2004, 02:45 PM
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/categories.php?cat_id=2
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/categories.php?cat_id=1
http://adoptasniper.org/photos/index.php

I noticed that in most of the pics, the men are issued an M4 to go along with their sniper rifles. I was under the impression that snipers were usually issued just an M9 as a personal defense weapon.

Uncle Sam
08-26-2004, 02:48 PM
Could that picture be coming from a spotter scope or binos??

http://img59.exs.cx/img59/2313/Unlucky.jpg

Raistlin
08-26-2004, 02:51 PM
I was under the impression that snipers were usually issued just an M9 as a personal defense weapon.
I'm not trying to flame you or anything so please don't take this question wrong: is it because of AA:O?

Fee Fi Fo Fum
08-26-2004, 02:54 PM
I was under the impression that snipers were usually issued just an M9 as a personal defense weapon.
I'm not trying to flame you or anything so please don't take this question wrong: is it because of AA:O?

so much for it being a recruitment tool!

Argyll
08-26-2004, 02:57 PM
It's very hard to get a scope to be totally clear even with the naked eye,a slight off centre causes a haze,it's called "sight alignment and eye relief".

The fact that this picture is so clear,almost perfect,even the persective is razor sharp is what made me say it had been photo shopped,with the right tools it's easy to do.

I have a good camera(Nikon 4300 4mb pixels) and I've been trying all day with my .222 to try and produce a picture that is as clear and as sharp as this one......I'm failing misereably!

moughoun
08-26-2004, 02:58 PM
Could that picture be coming from a spotter scope or binos??

http://img59.exs.cx/img59/2313/Unlucky.jpg

Well our spotter scope's don't use mil-dot, but maybe the US do and no binos use it afaik, because of the diffused image problem

Argyll
08-26-2004, 03:05 PM
Is it me,but if you look really close to the top part of the reticule,where it forms the T,there "appears" to be a lighter portion around it,and also what appears to be a vertical line/pattern from the right extremity upwards?

Geezah
08-26-2004, 03:10 PM
I've had a closer look at the pic.......he's sticking his finger down the barrel of the rifle between his legs!! :cantbeli:

It looks to me like he's loading a mag?

moughoun
08-26-2004, 03:15 PM
I've had a closer look at the pic.......he's sticking his finger down the barrel of the rifle between his legs!! :cantbeli:

It looks to me like he's loading a mag?

It's one of the two, so let's make him a little bit more cradible, he's looking a mag ;)

moughoun
08-26-2004, 03:16 PM
Is it me,but if you look really close to the top part of the reticule,where it forms the T,there "appears" to be a lighter portion around it,and also what appears to be a vertical line/pattern from the right extremity upwards?

I think it was a window they took the pic through, and that's what's causing the distortion's, fades and pattern's

Raistlin
08-26-2004, 03:26 PM
Is it me,but if you look really close to the top part of the reticule,where it forms the T,there "appears" to be a lighter portion around it
Yeah, I've noticed it. Usually it's a jpeg artifact appearing around straight and contrasting lines.

EDIT: did this in 10 seconds

http://s95005072.onlinehome.us/misc/jpeg-artifact.jpg

ibstolidude
08-26-2004, 03:29 PM
It's very hard to get a scope to be totally clear even with the naked eye,a slight off centre causes a haze,it's called "sight alignment and eye relief".

The fact that this picture is so clear,almost perfect,even the persective is razor sharp is what made me say it had been photo shopped,with the right tools it's easy to do.

I have a good camera(Nikon 4300 4mb pixels) and I've been trying all day with my .222 to try and produce a picture that is as clear and as sharp as this one......I'm failing misereably!
Argyll - check PM.

thanks.

Uncle Sam
08-26-2004, 03:32 PM
Could that picture be coming from a spotter scope or binos??

http://img59.exs.cx/img59/2313/Unlucky.jpg

Well our spotter scope's don't use mil-dot, but maybe the US do and no binos use it afaik, because of the diffused image problem

I'm guessing. I honestly don't care really.

Hey, maybe it's Photoshopped. :cantbeli:

ibstolidude
08-26-2004, 03:47 PM
So where are my smart guys with time on their hands?

Lets get some distances! - (sitting man???) height in yards /xx mil dot x 1000 = number of yards away * 0.9 = meters away.

Activate!

moughoun
08-26-2004, 03:50 PM
This is getting oldnow, I'm calling it quit's on this one, have fun gentlemen, Mough out

California Joe
08-26-2004, 03:51 PM
Don't know or care if the original is photoshopped or not but I could build that easily. Just sayin. Mocking would have put a hot asian chicks head on him though.

Uncle Sam
08-26-2004, 04:04 PM
400 yards or 365 meters

Raistlin
08-26-2004, 04:08 PM
Did this in 15 minutes just to try the concept:

http://s95005072.onlinehome.us/misc/scope-test.jpg

As opposed to everyone's favorite: .... Rrrr, can't find it now.

Uncle Sam
08-26-2004, 04:13 PM
Well, there you have it. :fork:

Options465
08-26-2004, 05:02 PM
Hummm :lol:

Graeme
08-26-2004, 05:27 PM
It's really not hard to take a picture through a telescopic sight with a bit of messing about...

http://graeme.ascuk.net/random/scope1.jpg

graphicsguy at PH
08-26-2004, 05:40 PM
It's very hard to get a scope to be totally clear even with the naked eye,a slight off centre causes a haze,it's called "sight alignment and eye relief".

The fact that this picture is so clear,almost perfect,even the persective is razor sharp is what made me say it had been photo shopped,with the right tools it's easy to do.

I have a good camera(Nikon 4300 4mb pixels) and I've been trying all day with my .222 to try and produce a picture that is as clear and as sharp as this one......I'm failing misereably!

If you want to give this a try......
http://www.lensadapter.com/products/nikon-4300.htm

Argyll
08-26-2004, 06:22 PM
It's really not hard to take a picture through a telescopic sight with a bit of messing about...

http://graeme.ascuk.net/random/scope1.jpg

Technically that's behind the scope,the 1st pic that's being discussed is as is the image was taken from "inside" the scope,which is not that easy,trying to line the eye relief of the camera with the matching eye relief on the scope...........think for a second here chaps,here is a Sniper with a target in his scope,and he has the choice,take the kill,knowing that the target can move off at any second or stop to take a perfect still,in a combat environment..........yeah right dream on!!

Graphics guy,
Thanks I might try and get one of these,my wee baby(nikon) is only new,and I'm only just getting the hang of all the settings

moughoun
08-26-2004, 06:24 PM
It's really not hard to take a picture through a telescopic sight with a bit of messing about...

http://graeme.ascuk.net/random/scope1.jpg

Technically that's behind the scope,the 1st pic that's being discussed is as is the image was taken from "inside" the scope,which is not that easy,trying to line the eye relief of the camera with the matching eye relief on the scope...........think for a second here chaps,here is a Sniper with a target in his scope,and he has the choice,take the kill,knowing that the target can move off at any second or stop to take a perfect still,in a combat environment..........yeah right dream on!!


Agree totally

innocent_bystander
08-26-2004, 06:27 PM
Premier Reticles offers Leupold spotting scopes with mil-dot reticles.

The picture could be legit but the reticle would have to be of the etched glass rather than wire type.

I have an older Mark 4 M3 that has an etched rather than wire retcle. All the new Leupolds use wire.

ibstolidude
08-26-2004, 07:46 PM
I have an older Mark 4 M3 that has an etched rather than wire retcle. All the new Leupolds use wire. - that is a little misleading as the M24's glass, as issued by the Army long equaled etched glass not wire. The often mistaken Mark4 M3 that is advertised as the civilian counterpart offers wire.

ZoneOne
08-26-2004, 08:19 PM
if you think for one second that those cross hairs are real

you should be slapped


its just a picture with cross hairs edited in

moughoun
08-26-2004, 08:29 PM
if you think for one second that those cross hairs are real

you should be slapped


Thwackkk, I took care of it p-)

ZoneOne
08-26-2004, 08:48 PM
http://www.madnesssoft.com/q3madness/images/screens/nuke.jpg

The THNL (Tactical Handheld Nuclear Launcher) is being tested by certain groups in the Army, mostly the Special Forces in hot spot area's like Afghanistan and Iraq. AP Drivlen, 2004

Well since a lot of idiots out there believe that FIRST pic is real

check out this new Tactical Nuke launcher that the Army is testing right now

innocent_bystander
08-26-2004, 10:29 PM
ibstolidude,

Here is some info on the etched vs. wire reticles. Seems that no one knows for sure why Leupold changed.

http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/ScopeLeupold.htm

My Mark 4 M3 does have round (Army) mil-dots and is etched. My 3.5-10 has football (Marine) mildots and is wire. The outer part of the reticle is also thicker on the Marine reticle.

graphicsguy at PH
08-27-2004, 04:19 AM
Argyll, Oval or Round mil dot in your scope?

scrybe
08-27-2004, 04:28 AM
The THNL (Tactical Handheld Nuclear Launcher) is being tested by certain groups in the Army, mostly the Special Forces in hot spot area's like Afghanistan and Iraq. AP Drivlen, 2004

Well since a lot of idiots out there believe that FIRST pic is real

check out this new Tactical Nuke launcher that the Army is testing right now


Will they be available in blue?

Argyll
08-27-2004, 05:12 AM
Argyll, Oval or Round mil dot in your scope?
My scope is not a Military scope,it's a cheapo I use for predator control here in Scotland

Graeme
08-27-2004, 10:46 AM
Glasgwegians you mean? :P

Seriously though, what sort of predators, foxes and the likes?

Thinking of a light rifle for fox control that can double as a rifle for roe deer, etc. Just gotta get the forms for an FAC in, and all the crap to go with it.

Far
08-27-2004, 10:56 AM
Glasgwegians you mean? :P

Seriously though, what sort of predators, foxes and the likes?

Thinking of a light rifle for fox control that can double as a rifle for roe deer, etc. Just gotta get the forms for an FAC in, and all the crap to go with it.

I think he means the two-legged kind. ;)

Argyll
08-27-2004, 11:23 AM
Glasgwegians you mean? :P

Seriously though, what sort of predators, foxes and the likes?

Thinking of a light rifle for fox control that can double as a rifle for roe deer, etc. Just gotta get the forms for an FAC in, and all the crap to go with it.
I used to work in the Aquaculture industry,so it was seals and birds etc ;)

BadKarma26
08-27-2004, 11:42 AM
I remember seeing an adversisement for a camera system that mounts onto the scope of a rifle. When the shooter pulls the trigger the camera takes a picture of what the shooter sees before he finishes the trigger pull.