A Quote to Remember

[OB Kenobi]

When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. --Thomas Jefferson.

[Sir Zach of R.]

That's why we went to war with Saddam. :|

[Argyll]

here's another one

"When you stand in ****.......it smells"

[California Joe]

HOT WATER BURN BABY!


Rainman

[farmgirl]

"Thank you for bringing up a very painful subject, now why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour some lemon juice on it?"

[Argyll]

"If it first you don't succed.....then fuc* it"

[California Joe]

"Anything that fine got to be named Lucille"

[Trigger]

"If I'm gonna die for a word, then my word is 'poontang'..."

[Argyll]

"Sniper?........wha..........."

[Hot Lips]

Sometimes, there just aren't enough rocks. ~ Forrest Gump :P

[farmgirl]

"Anything that fine got to be named Lucille"



"sometimes nuthin' is a pretty cool hand"

[mobster]

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[DE_Six]

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.


-George Orwell

[Kaplanr]

Brady: I do not think about things that I do not think about.

Drummond: Do you ever think about things that you do thing about?!

Matthew Harrison Brady and Henry Drummond in Inherit the Wind.

[OB Kenobi]

"You know what else I think? You know what else I think when they say, tax the rich? Most rich people are able to avoid taxes, and if you can't raise enough money from taxing the rich, guess who pays the taxes? Yes, you do."
-- George W. Bush explains his tax priorities by portraying the concept of taxing the rich as a pipe dream. Albuquerque, New Mexico, Aug. 11, 2004

[scm77]

"I actually DID vote for the eightyseven billion, BEFORE I voted against it"
:cantbeli:

--John Kennedy...I mean Fonda...I mean Kerry-- ;)

[gaz]

"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say that there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa.

[moughoun]

Mmmmmmmm...doughnut's (Homer Simpson 1960-present)

[Tane Angle]

(To the Man in Black climbing the Cliffs of Insanity)"You think you could speed things up a bit?"

[chauncy republicans]

"What, you want to see my *****?"

[FallenAngel]

"Reason #xxxxxxx we love Farmgirl! woot "- Romulus.

"Yeah Baby!" - Austin Powers.

"Where in the hell are you from anyway private?
-Sir, Texas sir!
Holy dog ****! Texas! Only steers and queers come from Texas private Cowboy and you don't much look like a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down. Do you suck ****s?
- Sir, no sir!
Are you a peter-puffer?
- Sir, no sir!
I bet you're the kind of guy who would f*ck a person in the ass and not even have the goddamn common curiousy to give him a reach-around. I'll be watching you." -Gunny Hartman

[Secret Squirrel]

To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war.
– Winston Churchill

[stuntman]

this one I learned in college from a non liberal Professor!

The Nation that draws too great a distance between its soldiers and its scholars will have its children taught by cowards and its fighting done by fools. -Thucydides"

[mobster]

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[Secret Squirrel]

I know you try really hard Mobster, but you posted a "caption" not a "quote". ;)

[Trigger]

"Strike first, strike hard, no mercy, sir!" ~ The Karate Kid

[gaz]

"Strike first, strike hard, no mercy, sir!" ~ The Karate Kid

"I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!" - Kreese. :D

[SpazzMunky]

'Its only a flesh wound!'

'Help! Help! I'm being repressed!'

-Monty Python and the Holy Grail

[ibstolidude]

Since this started with a T. Jefforson quotes - I use one of my favority figures in US history.

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."

"It is the madness of folly, to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice; and even mercy, where conquest is the object, is only a trick of war; the cunning of the fox is as murderous as the violence of the wolf."

For Shrek - "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. "

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it. "

"Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. "
- Thomas Paine


However one of my favorite quotes come from an odd source.
"Good words do not last long unless they amount to something. Words do not pay for my dead people. They do not pay for my country, now overrun by white men. They do not protect my father’s grave. They do not pay for all my horses and cattle.
Good words cannot give me back my children. Good words will not give my people good health and stop them from dying. Good words will not get my people a home where they can live in peace and take care of themselves.
I am tired of talk that comes to nothing It makes my heart sick when I remember all the good words and all the broken promises. There has been too much talking by men who had no right to talk. "

[Fintin]

"life is like an elevator, it has its ups, it has its downs, and sometimes you get the whole shaft"

i think ob got the shaft on this one

[Hullebullen]

http://www.quotegarden.com/war.html

[Trigger]

Where's that last one from stoli?
It's familiar, but I can't remember where I heard it or read it.

[Tane Angle]

I think it's Chief Joseph?

[California Joe]

I think it's Chief Joseph?

Good call Tane. Very wise man that Chief Joseph.

The first white men of your people who came to our country were named Lewis and Clark. They brought many things which our people had never seen. They talked straight and our people gave them a great feast as proof that their hearts were friendly. They made presents to our chiefs and our people made presents to them. We had a great many horses of which we gave them what they needed, and they gave us guns and tobacco in return. All the Nez Perce made friends with Lewis and Clark and agreed to let them pass through their country and never to make war on white men. This promise the Nez Perce have never broken.

II.

For a short time we lived quietly. But this could not last. White men had found gold in the mountains around the land of the Winding Water. They stole a great many horses from us and we could not get them back because we were Indians. The white men told lies for each other. They drove off a great many of our cattle. Some white men branded our young cattle so they could claim them. We had no friends who would plead our cause before the law councils. It seemed to me that some of the white men in Wallowa were doing these things on purpose to get up a war. They knew we were not stong enough to fight them. I labored hard to avoid trouble and bloodshed. We gave up some of our country to the white men, thinking that then we could have peace. We were mistaken. The white men would not let us alone. We could have avenged our wrongs many times, but we did not. Whenever the Government has asked for help against other Indians we have never refused. When the white men were few and we were strong we could have killed them off, but the Nez Perce wishes to live at peace.

On account of the treaty made by the other bands of the Nez Perce the white man claimed my lands. We were troubled with white men crowding over the line. Some of them were good men, and we lived on peaceful terms with them, but they were not all good. Nearly every year the agent came over from Lapwai and ordered us to the reservation. We always replied that we were satisfied to live in Wallowa. We were careful to refuse the presents or annuities which he offered.

Through all the years since the white man came to Wallowa we have been threatened and taunted by them and the treaty Nez Perce. They have given us no rest. We have had a few good friends among the white men, and they have always advised my people to bear these taunts without fighting. Our young men are quick tempered and I have had great trouble in keeping them from doing rash things. I have carried a heavy load on my back ever since I was a boy. I learned then that we were but few while the white men were many, and that we could not hold our own with them. We were like deer. They were like grizzly bears. We had a small country. Their country was large. We were contented to let things remain as the Great Spirit Chief made them. They were not; and would change the mountains and rivers if they did not suit them.

III.

[At his surrender in the Bear Paw Mountains, 1877]

Tell General Howard that I know his heart. What he told me before I have in my heart. I am tired of fighting. Our chiefs are killed. Looking Glass is dead, Tu-hul-hil-sote is dead. the old men are all dead. It is the young men who now say yes or no. He who led the young men [Joseph's brother Alikut] is dead. It is cold and we have no blankets. The little children are freezing to death. My people -- some of them have run away to the hills and have no blankets and no food. No one knows where they are -- perhaps freezing to death. I want to have time to look for my children and see how many of them I can find. Maybe I shall find them among the dead. Hear me, my chiefs, my heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands I will fight no more against the white man.



IV.

[On a visit to Washington, D.C., 1879]

At last I was granted permission to come to Washington and bring my friend Yellow Bull and our interpreter with me. I am glad I came. I have shaken hands with a good many friends, but there are some things I want to know which no one seems able to explain. I cannot understand how the Government sends a man out to fight us, as it did General Miles, and then breaks his word. Such a government has something wrong about it. I cannot understand why so many chiefs are allowed to talk so many different ways, and promise so many different things. I have seen the Great Father Chief [President Hayes]; the Next Great Chief [Secretary of the Interior]; the Commissioner Chief; the Law Chief; and many other law chiefs [Congressmen] and they all say they are my friends, and that I shall have justice, but while all their mouths talk right I do not understand why nothing is done for my people. I have heard talk and talk but nothing is done. Good words do not last long unless they amount to something. Words do not pay for my dead people. They do not pay for my country now overrun by white men. They do not protect my father's grave. They do not pay for my horses and cattle. Good words do not give me back my children. Good words will not make good the promise of your war chief, General Miles. Good words will not give my people a home where they can live in peace and take care of themselves. I am tired of talk that comes to nothing. It makes my heart sick when I remember all the good words and all the broken promises. There has been too much talking by men who had no right to talk. Too many misinterpretations have been made; too many misunderstandings have come up between the white men and the Indians. If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian he can live in peace. There need be no trouble. Treat all men alike. Give them the same laws. Give them all an even chance to live and grow. All men were made by the same Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers. The earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it. You might as well expect all rivers to run backward as that any man who was born a free man should be contented penned up and denied liberty to go where he pleases. If you tie a horse to a stake, do you expect he will grow fat? If you pen an Indian up on a small spot of earth and compel him to stay there, he will not be contented nor will he grow and prosper. I have asked some of the Great White Chiefs where they get their authority to say to the Indian that he shall stay in one place, while he sees white men going where they please. They cannot tell me.

I only ask of the Government to be treated as all other men are treated. If I cannot go to my own home, let me have a home in a country where my people will not die so fast. I would like to go to Bitter Root Valley. There my people would be happy; where they are now they are dying. Three have died since I left my camp to come to Washington.

When I think of our condition, my heart is heavy. I see men of my own race treated as outlaws and driven from country to country, or shot down like animals.

I know that my race must change. We cannot hold our own with the white men as we are. We only ask an even chance to live as other men live. We ask to be recognized as men. We ask that the same law shall work alike on all men. If an Indian breaks the law, punish him by the law. If a white man breaks the law, punish him also.

Let me be a free man, free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade where I choose, free to choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to talk, think and act for myself -- and I will obey every law or submit to the penalty.

Whenever the white man treats the Indian as they treat each other then we shall have no more wars. We shall be all alike -- brothers of one father and mother, with one sky above us and one country around us and one government for all. Then the Great Spirit Chief who rules above will smile upon this land and send rain to wash out the bloody spots made by brothers' hands upon the face of the earth. For this time the Indian race is waiting and praying. I hope no more groans of wounded men and women will ever go to the ear of the Great Spirit Chief above, and that all people may be one people.

Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekht has spoken for his people.

[ibstolidude]

Where's that last one from stoli?
It's familiar, but I can't remember where I heard it or read it.
chief Joseph, Nez Pierce.

[Kriz]

"Rosebud!" (Citizen Kane)

[Abolith]

Well if we are going to bust out the jefferson quotes......




"I hold it that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing,
and as necessary in the political world as storms are in the
physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish
the encroachments on the rights of the people, which have produced
them. An observation of this truth should render honest
republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as
not to discourage them too much. It is medicine necessary for the
sound health of government." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison,
1787.

and of coures the entire REAL jefferson quote:

"God forbid
we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people
cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will
be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they
misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is
lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had
thirteen states independent eleven years. There has been one
rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each
state. What country before ever existed a century & a half without a
rebellion? & what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers
are not warned from time to time that his people preserve the spirit
of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right
as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives
lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its
natural manure."

[KB]

"No great dependence is to be placed on the eagerness of young soldiers for action, for the prospect of combat is agreeable to those who are strangers to it."

Vegetius
4th Century AD

[ibstolidude]

"No great dependence is to be placed on the eagerness of young soldiers for action, for the prospect of combat is agreeable to those who are strangers to it."

Vegetius
4th Century AD
"Si vis pacem, para bellum"

"To seduce the enemy’s soldiers from their allegiance and encourage them to surrender is of special service, for an adversary is more hurt by desertion than by slaughter."

"He, therefore, who desires peace should prepare for war. He who aspires to victory should spare no pains to form his soldiers. And he who hopes for success should fight on principle, not chance."
- Vegetius

[Aussie E]

I think we're going to need a bigger boat
Chief Brody 1975

[mobster]

"I Don't Own An SUV."

"The family has it. I don't have it."-JOHN KERRY



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buwahahahahahah

[basket of soft kittens]

watcha talin about willis? - gary coleman

your ass looks like 150 pounds of chewed bubble gum did you know that -gunny hartman

nigga please -shaft

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all gunny hartman quotes great for prank phone calls

[HooyahCQB]

"It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. Religion and virtue are the only foundations ... of republicanism and of all free governments."

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . ... Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."



-John Adams, 2nd President of the United States

[KB]

These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands now deserves the love and thanks of men and woman.


Thomas Paine

[ibstolidude]

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done."

"Criticism is necessary and useful; it is often indispensable; but it can never take the place of action, or be even a poor substitute for it. The function of the mere critic is of very subordinate usefulness. It is the doer of deeds who actually counts in the battle for life, and not the man who looks on and says how the fight ought to be fought, without himself sharing the stress and the danger."

"Thrice happy is the nation that has a glorious history. Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."

Teddy Roosevelt - although many may argue his best quotes revolve around the presidency and his view of realistic, honest praise & blame.