Why do trust to such a regime?

[2RHPZ]

Why do we trust to such a regime who commited such acts:

The Public Hanging of a Sixteen Year Old Girl in Iran

On Sunday August 15, 2004, a 16 year old girl by the name of Atefe Rajabi, daughter of Ghassem Rajabi, was executed in the town of Neka, located in the province of Mazandaran, for "engaging in acts incompatible with chastity". The execution was carried out by the order of Neka's "judicial administrator" and was approved by both the Supreme Court of the Islamic Republic and the chief of the nation's "judiciary branch."

Although according to her birth certificate she was only 16 years old, the local court falsely claimed that she was 22.

Three months ago, during her appearance before the local court, fiercely angry the young girl hurled insults at the local judge, Haji Reza, who is also the chief judicial administrator of the city, and it is said as another expression of protest took off some of her clothes in the courtroom. This act by the young girl made the administrator so furious that he evaluated her file personally and in less than three months received a go-ahead from the Islamic Republic's Supreme Court for her execution. The animosity and anger of Haji Reza was so strong that he personally put the rope around the girl's delicate neck and personally gave the signal to the crane operator, by raising his hand, to begin pulling the rope.



Meanwhile, an Iranian doctor named Ramin Etabar posted this plea to all of us:

The murderous mullahs of Iran have executed another minor. The interviews of locals in the city of Neka conducted by Radio Farda revealed that this child was either mentally retarded or was suffering from a psychiatric illness.
As a physician and human right's activist I can not express my outrage enough.
The terrorist regime in Iran has been killing children for the past twenty five years. The virgin girls are raped by these Islamic hooligans the night before their execution in order to "prevent them from going to heaven".
We the Iranian people hold the E.U. and corporate sponsors of the terror regime responsible for continuation of tyrannies in Iran.
Please do your humanitarian share of responsibility and forward this content to the press, multinational corporations and government officials of your country of residence.
May god bless the souls of the genocide victims of the I.R.I.

It would be interesting if our media confronted the presidential candidates with questions about Iran. As most of us realize, the Islamic Republic which practices this barbarism is on the edge of nuclear weapons, if not already over it. What issue could be more important?

http://rogerlsimon.com
or
http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=9972&cid=5&cname=Asia

[anonymous individual]

That is a barbaric act.

[Moledet]

Way to go Europe! :|

[Argyll]

Way to go Europe! :|

Israel wants to be part of the E.U..... ;),and it happened in the Middle East

your point being?...........or need I ask?

[Moledet]

Way to go Europe! :|

Israel wants to be part of the E.U..... ;),and it happened in the Middle East

your point being?...........or need I ask?
You didn't read the thread, right?
Believe me, we don't want to be part of the EU, we will be happy to have closer relations with the EU, but there are too many things that we'll need to give up on to be part of the EU, for example: Anyone from Europe will be able to become our citizen, we can't allow that if we want to stay Jewish.

Here's a quote for you:


We the Iranian people hold the E.U. and corporate sponsors of the terror regime responsible for continuation of tyrannies in Iran.

[perdurabo]

Way to go Europe! :|

Israel wants to be part of the E.U..... ;),and it happened in the Middle East

your point being?...........or need I ask?
You didn't read the thread, right?
Believe me, we don't want to be part of the EU, we will be happy to have closer relations with the EU, but there are too many things that we'll need to give up on to be part of the EU, for example: Anyone from Europe will be able to become our citizen, we can't allow that if we want to stay Jewish.

Here's a quote for you:


We the Iranian people hold the E.U. and corporate sponsors of the terror regime responsible for continuation of tyrannies in Iran.


prabably not the same things E.U. and EU ;)

BTW why do you afraid of loosing Jewish identity in EU? There was big babling about how meany germans want to buy land from Poles and kick us out nothing like that happened :)

[Moledet]

Way to go Europe! :|

Israel wants to be part of the E.U..... ;),and it happened in the Middle East

your point being?...........or need I ask?
You didn't read the thread, right?
Believe me, we don't want to be part of the EU, we will be happy to have closer relations with the EU, but there are too many things that we'll need to give up on to be part of the EU, for example: Anyone from Europe will be able to become our citizen, we can't allow that if we want to stay Jewish.

Here's a quote for you:


We the Iranian people hold the E.U. and corporate sponsors of the terror regime responsible for continuation of tyrannies in Iran.


prabably not the same things E.U. and EU ;)

BTW why do you afraid of loosing Jewish identity in EU? There was big babling about how meany germans want to buy land from Poles and kick us out nothing like that happened :)
Because many east European countries will also join the EU, and if we will join many of their citizens will ask for our citizenship so they will be able to work here for as long as they want. That accept of the European muslims that will be glad to live here just to make our life bitter.

[Argyll]

Way to go Europe! :|

Israel wants to be part of the E.U..... ;),and it happened in the Middle East

your point being?...........or need I ask?
You didn't read the thread, right?
Believe me, we don't want to be part of the EU, we will be happy to have closer relations with the EU, but there are too many things that we'll need to give up on to be part of the EU, for example: Anyone from Europe will be able to become our citizen, we can't allow that if we want to stay Jewish.

Here's a quote for you:


We the Iranian people hold the E.U. and corporate sponsors of the terror regime responsible for continuation of tyrannies in Iran.


I did read the thread,and saw a quote from within that mentioned the EU and the corporate sponser of terrorism,the article it's self was about the regimes punishment of a 16 year old girl,the EU does not set the laws there,and just who do you think he meant using the quotes "corporate sponsers of terror"
There are no European terror orginisations operating in the Middle East to the best of my knowledge,never mind operating in Iran and conducting a terror campaign?

And you don't want to be part of the EU?really then why apply?Who is we?The Israeli people or the right wingers?

This would be the same Iran you want to bomb........why the crocodile tears Moledat?
This is the same Iran who sponsors State terror against Israel,but you blame the EU............that's a surprise!
This is the same Iran that wants to wipe the Zionists off the face of the earth........and you shed crocodile tears ,when infact what this goes to show that not all Iranians share the same views as the regime,but you still want to bomb them into the next Millenium....... :roll:

[Moledet]

Way to go Europe! :|

Israel wants to be part of the E.U..... ;),and it happened in the Middle East

your point being?...........or need I ask?
You didn't read the thread, right?
Believe me, we don't want to be part of the EU, we will be happy to have closer relations with the EU, but there are too many things that we'll need to give up on to be part of the EU, for example: Anyone from Europe will be able to become our citizen, we can't allow that if we want to stay Jewish.

Here's a quote for you:


We the Iranian people hold the E.U. and corporate sponsors of the terror regime responsible for continuation of tyrannies in Iran.


I did read the thread,and saw a quote from within that mentioned the EU and the corporate sponser of terrorism,the article it's self was about the regimes punishment of a 16 year old girl,the EU does not set the laws there,and just who do you think he meant using the quotes "corporate sponsers of terror"
There are no European terror orginisations operating in the Middle East to the best of my knowledge,never mind operating in Iran and conducting a terror campaign?

And you don't want to be part of the EU?really then why apply?Who is we?The Israeli people or the right wingers?

This would be the same Iran you want to bomb........why the crocodile tears Moledat?
This is the same Iran who sponsors State terror against Israel,but you blame the EU............that's a surprise!
This is the same Iran that wants to wipe the Zionists off the face of the earth........and you shed crocodile tears ,when infact what this goes to show that not all Iranians share the same views as the regime,but you still want to bomb them into the next Millenium....... :roll:
That guy meant that the EU is helping this regime to stay in power, which is true because even though they are such a big fan of human rights they still don't try to sanction Iran so it will stop it barbaric acts.

I blame the EU for helping the Mullahs to stay in power, I don't blame it for world terror.

I know that many Iranians want to see this regime burning, that just give us an even better reason to attack them (the street won't fight us because we are hurting the Mullahs).

[Argyll]

Interesting points there Moledat.
And you don't like the EU because they sanction Israel?

The EU sanctioned Ghadaffi for decades,it made no difference to him one bit,he still sponsored terrorism!and he remained in power and does to this very day.

Odd isn't it,the EU is guilty of the failings of a country in the Middle East. :roll:
Iran has elections don't they?
Blaming the EU for not supporting Sanctions,which sanctions would they be?
EU sanctions mean didly squat,same as UN Sanctions.
Change has to come from within

Again who do you think the Doctor meant as "corporate sponsors".....The USA?Israel?......there's nobody else as the EU has already been named ;)

[foxtrot023]

Way to go Europe! :|

Typical dumbass comment. BTW, name how does Europe ¨support¨ the Iranian regime? all other points have been covered by Argyll, so I won`t go there. It is interesting that your opinion is based of the observations of ONE (!) single person. If it comes down to that, there are folks that swear that Israel is the biggest single threat to world peace (but you don`t see me saying Go Israel!). BTW this is no t a flaming point (personally I know that is not true), I am just trying to point out the obvious to Modelet

[AROUETLJ]

Since this could turn into a flame war, I'll just pick out on the pedantic stuff.

Moledet, if Israel becomes an EU member state, EU citizens will be able to work in Israel, but not become Israeli citizens. Same thing happens with the other countries in the EU. I thought you might like to know this.

[Moledet]

Interesting points there Moledat.
And you don't like the EU because they sanction Israel?

The EU sanctioned Ghadaffi for decades,it made no difference to him one bit,he still sponsored terrorism!and he remained in power and does to this very day.

Odd isn't it,the EU is guilty of the failings of a country in the Middle East. :roll:
Iran has elections don't they?
Blaming the EU for not supporting Sanctions,which sanctions would they be?
EU sanctions mean didly squat,same as UN Sanctions.
Change has to come from within

Again who do you think the Doctor meant as "corporate sponsors".....The USA?Israel?......there's nobody else as the EU has already been named ;)
The EU threathend to sanction Israel few times and as far as I know it cancelled Israel's special economical status (it's some trade agreement).

In the elections the Mullahs just stopped many Politicians from getting elected.

Well if the EU will agree to sanctions the UN security council will be able to approve these sanctions in a vote and Iran will economicaly collapse because most of their economy is based on exporting oil.

I think that it's more logical that he was referring to Russia, China, NK, some arabian/muslim countries.

[AROUETLJ]

Moledet, the EU-Israel trade agreement still holds. I think you're confusing itwith the recent EU ruling on goods from Israeli settlements in the occupied territories, which will not be covered by this agreement. [Basically, the agreement established a duty-free zone beteen Israel and the EU, so the only difference that this will make is that such goods will be taxed.] If you need anything else, just ask. It helps ot clarify things.

[AROUETLJ]

Oh and the issue is still being discussed. A decision will not be taken before next month.

[Argyll]

I think that it's more logical that he was referring to Russia, China, NK, some arabian/muslim countries.

Why do you come to those conclusions........This would mean that the Great satan and the Zionist are the only ones who are willing to help?I think it's wishfull thinking Moledat.

The EU has no input into Iran,neither has those other Countries mentioned

[aixina]

one question little bit off-topic did iran participate in the muslim-israel wars?

[Mr. Nielsen]

one question little bit off-topic did iran participate in the muslim-israel wars?

No, they haven't.

But Iran, which is shia, supports the Hezbollah movement in Libanon which is also shia.

[Moledet]

I think that it's more logical that he was referring to Russia, China, NK, some arabian/muslim countries.

Why do you come to those conclusions........This would mean that the Great satan and the Zionist are the only ones who are willing to help?I think it's wishfull thinking Moledat.

The EU has no input into Iran,neither has those other Countries mentioned
The US and Israel both want this regime destroyed, so it's "a bit" not logical to think that they sponsor it (that's except of the fact that US want to impose sanctions on Iran, but the EU doesn't so the French will probably veto it), while the EU still has normal relations with the Mullahs and so does Syria, Pakistan and most of the Muslim countries.

[AROUETLJ]

Please note that Britain also has good relations with Iran. Would it "veto" any sanctions too? And your argument is illogical. The US, for instance, also has diplomatic relations with Syria. Does that mean it supports the Syrian regime?

[Moledet]

Please note that Britain also has good relations with Iran. Would it "veto" any sanctions too? And your argument is illogical. The US, for instance, also has diplomatic relations with Syria. Does that mean it supports the Syrian regime?
No, the US has a neutral relations with the Syrian regime, but with Iran they have a very unfriendly relations, you know small satan, big satan thing.

[perdurabo]

The US and Israel both want this regime destroyed, so it's "a bit" not logical to think that they sponsor it (that's except of the fact that US want to impose sanctions on Iran, but the EU doesn't so the French will probably veto it), while the EU still has normal relations with the Mullahs and so does Syria, Pakistan and most of the Muslim countries.
You reffer EU as one coutry but it isn't look at Iraq war more than half of EU countries are with USA only France Germany and few others where aginst... EU is still union of countries and will be like that for next few decades...

[radon]

On a side note. Single countries have always different kind of people Us has Bush supporters and Kerry supporters. This is good to keep in mind when pointing out irregularities in the opinions of the "same people". I saw something like this in a topic about troops leaving Germany if I remember correctly.

[Internet]

You didn't read the thread, right?
Believe me, we don't want to be part of the EU, we will be happy to have closer relations with the EU, but there are too many things that we'll need to give up on to be part of the EU, for example: Anyone from Europe will be able to become our citizen, we can't allow that if we want to stay Jewish.


Replace Israël by any European country and replace 'jewish' by aryan.

Norway doesn't want to be a part of the EU. Anyone from the EU will be able to become a norwegian citizen, they can't allow that if they want to stay aryan.

No blacks allowed - 'Slegs blanke' - White's only - Kein Jüde

You get the picture. Ethnicity may never play a deciding factor wether someone is allowed to join a 'society' or not. But you are right about people with certain ideologies (islam for example) moving to Israël.

[OB Kenobi]

Why do we trust to such a regime who commited such acts:

The Public Hanging of a Sixteen Year Old Girl in Iran

On Sunday August 15, 2004, a 16 year old girl by the name of Atefe Rajabi, daughter of Ghassem Rajabi, was executed in the town of Neka, located in the province of Mazandaran, for "engaging in acts incompatible with chastity". The execution was carried out by the order of Neka's "judicial administrator" and was approved by both the Supreme Court of the Islamic Republic and the chief of the nation's "judiciary branch."

Man, the Catholic Church wishes it had it this good again. Ah, the good ol' days. Can't even have a decent witch trial anymore, what's the world coming to? Yeah, these Muslims really know how to treat their people right, the way God wants it.

Anyway, I'd rather have these idiots killing each other than killing me, because if we go in there, it will be another quagmire for us. It'd be much easier to invade Sudan, why haven't we done that? No payoff, eh?

[ibstolidude]

It'd be much easier to invade Sudan, why haven't we done that? No payoff, eh? - yeah cause there is no oil in Sudan? - oh wait, nevermind. :roll:

[OB Kenobi]

It'd be much easier to invade Sudan, why haven't we done that? No payoff, eh? - yeah cause there is no oil in Sudan? - oh wait, nevermind. :roll:

China holds claims on most of Sudan's oil business, I don't think the Bush administration wants to get into that kind of mess at the moment. Still no reason why we can't send in peacekeepers though, is there? Any reason why the noble Bush administration hasn't rushed to the aid of those people?