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Zoomie
08-27-2004, 01:32 PM
Russia finds air crash explosive
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3604134.stm)
Both crash sites are being searched for clues
Traces of explosive have been found amid the wreckage of one of two Tupolev airliners that crashed on Tuesday, Russian officials say.
The FSB security service said at least one of the almost simultaneous crashes was a "terrorist act".

Details of the discovery came after an Islamic group claimed responsibility for the crashes in a website statement.

Investigators are still working to decode the flight data recorders from the crashes, which left 89 people dead.

Russian aviation officials have confirmed that one of the planes, a Sibir Airlines Tu-154, sent out a hijack alert just before it crashed, Russian media report.

The Tu-154 and a Tu-134 jet crashed within minutes of each other over southern Russia, coming down about 800km (500 miles) apart.

Claim

The FSB says the traces of explosive were found amid the debris of the Tu-154, which was flying to the Black Sea resort of Sochi when it disappeared from radar shortly after the pilot pressed the SOS button.

The same explosive, hexogen, was apparently used in a series of apartment bombings in 1999 that killed around 200 people.

In a website statement on Friday, a group called the Islambouli Brigades said it had five people on board each aircraft. It warned this act would be followed by others "until the killings of our Muslim brothers in Chechnya cease".

The crashes came just days before a presidential election in war-ravaged Chechnya, where separatists recently stepped up attacks on Russian forces and their local allies.


The FSB said it had identified "a number of people with possible links to the terrorist act". Officials are investigating the identity of two female passengers - one on the Sochi flight who has been confirmed as a resident of Chechnya.

But no relatives have yet come forward to claim her body.

Transport Minister Igor Levitin, who heads the government commission investigating the crashes, said on Thursday that more time was needed to decode the "black box" flight data recorders.

"Not all the flight recorders are in a condition that would allow them to be read immediately," he said before flying to Tula Region, where one of the planes crashed.

"Today and tomorrow we will work on them in order to bring the tape to a condition that will allow us to read what happened."


See more about the two Tupolev planes
President Vladimir Putin's envoy to southern Russia told reporters that the black boxes had "practically switched off immediately".

Vladimir Yakovlev said this was "probably more confirmation... that something had happened very quickly".

Investigators have continued to sift through the wreckage scattered over fields in Tula and Rostov Region.

Mystery passenger

Russian flags flew at half-mast on Thursday and light entertainment was withdrawn from theatre and television schedules as part of a day of national mourning.


The black boxes are said to be in poor condition
Passenger lists indicate that all the victims were Russian, apart from one Israeli.

Russia's newspapers have largely poured scorn on the official line that the cause of the crashes was probably technical or human error.

"Despite the titanic efforts of state television, we are not all imbeciles just yet," said an editorial in Moskovsky Komsomolets.

"Now Russia has its own 11 September," said the headline in Nezavisimaya Gazeta.

The victims' families are to receive 112,000 roubles ($3,800) each in compensation - unless it is proven that terrorism was to blame, in which case they would receive less.

Hiroshima
08-27-2004, 02:17 PM
wow.....I just love how they said it was their own Sept. 11th....for crying out loud...does that mean anything involving aircraft will be called 9/11? Well, nice to see they found explosives, but which group is claiming responsibility? THe seperatists in Chechnya are quiet willing to claim responsibility if they did it...look at the attack that killed that one political leader with a landmine at the sporting event, they took credit....also took credit for the apartment block attack that used the same explosives that the found in the plane crashes.

usa320
08-27-2004, 02:41 PM
I agree, while tragic, the loss of 89 lives just cannot compare to the loss of over 3,000.

Gatling
08-27-2004, 04:48 PM
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bison3255
08-27-2004, 05:00 PM
looks like chechen blood will be flowing in rivers for this.. last time they tried something like this we started a war which killed 30k chechens :roll:

BlackRain
08-27-2004, 10:08 PM
Muslim terrorists attacking innocent civilians?

That's so strange, where have I heard that before?

Oh yea. That's right. Just about everywhere in the world.

penna
08-27-2004, 10:12 PM
maybe the russians should invest in a skymarshal program of their own.

scm77
08-27-2004, 10:51 PM
Muslim terrorists attacking innocent civilians?

I don't believe that sort of thing has ever happened before. How strange. :roll: :lol: :(

Abbyy
08-28-2004, 12:01 AM
maybe the russians should invest in a skymarshal program of their own.

How can this help in such cases?

ArtofPain
08-28-2004, 06:29 PM
maybe the russians should invest in a skymarshal program of their own.
Russian pilots have guns during most flyes.