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Khabbi
08-29-2004, 01:19 AM
Usualy you just hear the negative stuff about the candidates , Bush didnt go to Vietnam , no WMDs and is a idiot , and Kerry is lying about Vietnam and is a flip floper . I actualy dont know where they stand on diff stuff cause of all this BS

Is there a neutral site with Bush and Kerrys veiw on politics and other things ?


thanks in advance

Deuterium
08-29-2004, 01:22 AM
Usualy you just hear the negative stuff about the candidates , Bush didnt go to Vietnam , no WMDs and is a idiot , and Kerry is lying about Vietnam and is a flip floper . I actualy dont know where they stand on diff stuff cause of all this BS

Is there a neutral site with Bush and Kerrys veiw on politics and other things ?


thanks in advance

Well there you go, that's the number one complaint about the current election cycle.

MEGR
08-29-2004, 01:23 AM
Believe it or not there is.. I can't remember the site of the top of my head, but hopefully I can come back to you soon. They mentioned a site on Charlotte radio..

hist2004
08-29-2004, 07:50 AM
Usualy you just hear the negative stuff about the candidates , Bush didnt go to Vietnam , no WMDs and is a idiot , and Kerry is lying about Vietnam and is a flip floper . I actualy dont know where they stand on diff stuff cause of all this BS

Is there a neutral site with Bush and Kerrys veiw on politics and other things ?


thanks in advance

Kerry on the Issues

Abortion Supports abortion rights.

Affirmative Action: Supports affirmative action policies.

Campaign Finance: Is not accepting public financing for his presidential campaign.

Death Penalty: Opposes the death penalty.

Economy, Taxes & Trade: Would repeal President Bush's tax cuts, primarily for families with incomes above $200,000.

Education: $3.2 billion community service plan for high school students that would qualify for them for the equivalent of their state's four-year public college tuition.

Environment: Would steer $20 billion from oil and gas royalties to development of cleaner energy.

Foreign Policy, Terrorism & Iraq: Supported decision to go to war but now says he did so based on faulty U.S. intelligence.

Gay Rights: Would ban job discrimination against homo******s and extend hate-crime protections to gays.

Gun Control: Opposes granting gun makers immunity from civil lawsuits arising wrongful use of weapons.


Healthcare: Planned spending on large health care programs amounts to about $76 billion a year.

Homeland Security & National Defense: Voted for the Patriot Act, but is now in favor of letting it expire.



Social Security: Kerry opposes privatizing Social Security and is against raising the retirement age to 67 or reducing payments.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Bush on the Issues

Abortion The president opposes abortion, but he has said that neither the country nor Congress is ready for a ban on the procedure.

Affirmative Action: Mr. Bush says he opposes racial quotas and racial preferences.

Campaign Finance: Mr. Bush has foregone public financing for his presidential campaigns.

Death Penalty: Supports the death penalty.

Economy, Taxes & Trade: President Bush has signed tax cuts each of the past three years, including a $1.35 trillion cut over 10 years signed in 2001.

Education: Supports taxpayer-financed vouchers for tuition at parochial or other private schools.

Environment: Favors allowing oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Foreign Policy, Terrorism & Iraq: Following Sept. 11 attacks on United States, instituted policy of pre-emptive strikes against suspected threats to the nation's security, where U.S. would act alone or with others to protect the nation.

Gay Rights: Opposes gay marriage; Supports a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union between a man and a woman.

Gun Control: Favors granting immunity to gun makers from civil lawsuits.

Healthcare: Signed a law giving the elderly prescription drug coverage under Medicare for the first time, at an estimated cost of $400 billion over the next 10 years.

Homeland Security & National Defense: Following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, created new cabinet-level position to coordinate anti-terrorism efforts.


Social Security: Favors private investment accounts in Social Security.


Regards,
Hist2004

Khabbi
08-29-2004, 10:13 AM
Thanks a mill hist2004 . Helped alot woot :hug: :D

Hot Lips
08-29-2004, 12:00 PM
Bush vs Kerry
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4448630/

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/issues/index.html

www.factcheck.org

scm77
08-29-2004, 12:11 PM
Senator Flip Flop (http://www.senatorflipflop.com)

Go there and you can see where Kerry has changed his position on different issues. ;)

Just click on "Help Inspector Kerry Search For Truth" :lol: . Or one of the issues on the right side.

I love that site. woot

hist2004
08-29-2004, 12:15 PM
Bush vs Kerry
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4448630/

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/issues/index.html

www.factcheck.org

I'd say your sources are alittle biased ;) Two of the sources are slanted
towards the Democratic agenda.

Regards,
Hist2004

Hot Lips
08-29-2004, 12:17 PM
What have they said that isn't true? I read a great many sources. That is just what I found on a search in google after I read your question in a "bush kerry issues" search.

hist2004
08-29-2004, 12:19 PM
CNN & MSNBC have a more liberal agenda whereas FOXNEWS slants to
the right wing.

Regards,
Hist2004

basket of soft kittens
08-29-2004, 12:23 PM
Usualy you just hear the negative stuff about the candidates , Bush didnt go to Vietnam , no WMDs and is a idiot , and Kerry is lying about Vietnam and is a flip floper . I actualy dont know where they stand on diff stuff cause of all this BS

Is there a neutral site with Bush and Kerrys veiw on politics and other things ?


thanks in advance

Kerry on the Issues

Abortion Supports abortion rights.

Affirmative Action: Supports affirmative action policies.

Campaign Finance: Is not accepting public financing for his presidential campaign.

Death Penalty: Opposes the death penalty.

Economy, Taxes & Trade: Would repeal President Bush's tax cuts, primarily for families with incomes above $200,000.

Education: $3.2 billion community service plan for high school students that would qualify for them for the equivalent of their state's four-year public college tuition.

Environment: Would steer $20 billion from oil and gas royalties to development of cleaner energy.

Foreign Policy, Terrorism & Iraq: Supported decision to go to war but now says he did so based on faulty U.S. intelligence.

Gay Rights: Would ban job discrimination against homo******s and extend hate-crime protections to gays.

Gun Control: Opposes granting gun makers immunity from civil lawsuits arising wrongful use of weapons.


Healthcare: Planned spending on large health care programs amounts to about $76 billion a year.

Homeland Security & National Defense: Voted for the Patriot Act, but is now in favor of letting it expire.



Social Security: Kerry opposes privatizing Social Security and is against raising the retirement age to 67 or reducing payments.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Bush on the Issues

Abortion The president opposes abortion, but he has said that neither the country nor Congress is ready for a ban on the procedure.

Affirmative Action: Mr. Bush says he opposes racial quotas and racial preferences.

Campaign Finance: Mr. Bush has foregone public financing for his presidential campaigns.

Death Penalty: Supports the death penalty.

Economy, Taxes & Trade: President Bush has signed tax cuts each of the past three years, including a $1.35 trillion cut over 10 years signed in 2001.

Education: Supports taxpayer-financed vouchers for tuition at parochial or other private schools.

Environment: Favors allowing oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Foreign Policy, Terrorism & Iraq: Following Sept. 11 attacks on United States, instituted policy of pre-emptive strikes against suspected threats to the nation's security, where U.S. would act alone or with others to protect the nation.

Gay Rights: Opposes gay marriage; Supports a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union between a man and a woman.

Gun Control: Favors granting immunity to gun makers from civil lawsuits.

Healthcare: Signed a law giving the elderly prescription drug coverage under Medicare for the first time, at an estimated cost of $400 billion over the next 10 years.

Homeland Security & National Defense: Following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, created new cabinet-level position to coordinate anti-terrorism efforts.


Social Security: Favors private investment accounts in Social Security.


Regards,
Hist2004


thank you very much ! you put political issues in lamens terms and you looked at only the facts one of the most refreshing posts ive seen lately

kudos

Hot Lips
08-29-2004, 12:27 PM
I think most publications/sites will have some agenda to push even if it's subtle. I think you need to read some from either side. Somewhere in the middle is the truth. I put more faith in the likes of CNN, ABC, Fox, MSNBC, etc than a a smaller site/newsletter/individual because there is more accountability for not lying or misrepresenting facts.

hist2004
08-29-2004, 12:30 PM
I think you need to read some from either side

Thanks, but I actually do read from all sides :)

Regards,
Hist2004

Hot Lips
08-29-2004, 12:47 PM
You're welcome. Anytime you want to borrow my "Politics for Blondes" book just let me know.

BlackRain
08-29-2004, 04:41 PM
Usualy you just hear the negative stuff about the candidates , Bush didnt go to Vietnam , no WMDs and is a idiot , and Kerry is lying about Vietnam and is a flip floper . I actualy dont know where they stand on diff stuff cause of all this BS


The "Bush-is-an-idiot" comment although popular is tres facile.

Can an idiot:

1) Get accepted and graduate from Yale, an Ivy League school?
2) Become a pilot of one of the most difficult to fly jets, the F-102, in the 1960's without killing himself?
3) Get accepted and earn a Master of Business Administration from Harvard Business School?
4) Get elected govenor one of the largest states in America?
5) Become the first Governor in Texas history to be elected to consecutive four-year terms when he was re-elected on November 3, 1998, with 68.6 percent of the vote?
6) Get elected President of United States? Twice?

Unless you have accomplished a tiny fraction of these milestones, I don't think you should call anyone an "idiot".

Virus
08-29-2004, 06:39 PM
he also speaks spanish ! :)