View Full Version : Tattoos in SOF
I was just curious if there were limits to what kinds of tattoos you could get if you are in Special Operations units. What I mean by this is if you have an American Flag or some form of identification or American related tattoo, would this prevent you from being able to operate in Delta or for the CIA and such units?
David
02-22-2003, 08:01 PM
perhaps if they wanted you to go undercover, especially into an anti american group, of course then you could get flames inked onto the flag. only jackasses get tattoos anyway, real men get bullet holes. :D
FallenAngel
02-22-2003, 08:41 PM
LOL
thats true. Tatoos are for sissies! Scars are much more badass :)
Man, bullet holes are for sissies! Real men get explosion wounds rofl
er.. I'd rather be an entire man than a real man...
Alleycat
02-23-2003, 05:34 AM
rofl
Argyll
02-24-2003, 02:39 AM
Yeah right guys,Id love to see someone go up to the "very seasoned"operator in the new pics posted in the Enduring freedom page and call him a sissie!!
Most squaddies get tattoo's done when they're young and stupid,and drunk(experience talking here!!)and most don't think about joining SF units until later on in their carreers,and usually thats when the regrets about the tatoos come in to place!!!
100%Marine
03-12-2003, 07:24 PM
If you are a Marine, then why havent you read the new MARADMIN on tattoos. Remember MARADMIN promulgation is your responsiblility. I think it came out a couple of months ago. here its is
www.dinfos.osd.mil/pa_j/jdiv/ fcut/0102/feats14_0102.pdf
Apogee
03-12-2003, 10:35 PM
I think its b/c hes joining up soon, and not actually a member of the Corps yet. I seem to remeber him mentioning something about going to Paris Island this summer. But I could be all messed up.
redondomarine
03-13-2003, 07:59 PM
Well i have enough scars and I still want a tatoo. Nothing real big though, but if it will keep me out of SF then i wont.
PSYWAR1-0
03-13-2003, 11:01 PM
as of 2001 when I got out there was not a blanket proibition of tatts in SOF. What was prohibited were tats on the face, neck, head, basicly any place that would show up while in a Class A uniform.
I got 9 tatts, all while assigned to SOF units. None were the typical "Death from Behind", flags ect. All were tribal tats that have personal meanins to me and my family. Would a particular tat keep you out of Tier one SOF units? Cant say, gotta get recruited by them and find out. Will it keep you from going to the Q, Ranger School, or Green Platoon, not at all. Will it bring major heat down on you at SERE school? Dam straight it will!
You gotta decide. I waited till I was 30 to get tatts that I had been thinking about since childhood. The fact that I was serving in a SOF unit had no bearing on my decision to get them done.
GearGod
03-16-2003, 12:16 AM
Arnet there "temporary" tatoos one could use to fit the "occasion" in which he is going to attend? Hahaha- I especially like the american flag tatoo on one arm and a sf/ranger/airborne tatoo on the other arm
David
03-16-2003, 01:13 AM
i think that if you get a tattoo while you're in the sof group theres nothing they're really going to do about it as long as its not like an american flag on your forehead, but if you already have a tattoo and you want in the sof group you might just be f***ed. i don't have any tattoos, but i don't think that played a major role in the army giving me a specops contract, i think they just realized what a badass i am.
Bala ya khumak
03-16-2003, 09:30 AM
Yeah right guys,Id love to see someone go up to the "very seasoned"operator in the new pics posted in the Enduring freedom page and call him a sissie!!
Most squaddies get tattoo's done when they're young and stupid,and drunk(experience talking here!!)and most don't think about joining SF units until later on in their carreers,and usually thats when the regrets about the tatoos come in to place!!!
Tattoos can also be a plus if headed of special forces, in the UK at least, if you going through S.A.S. selection with a tattoo identifying you as Parachute Regiment/ex-Parachute Regiment you either get fewer beating or no beating at all, if/when captured during escape and evasion for example. Some of the 'hunter' Para’s even take small touches with them to check for tattoos in the night before laying into someone. I chap that I know went through, and failed to pass selection, but didn’t get any beating because before such exercises, if he could, he used a blue biro to draw a Pegasus on the underside of his forearm (he wasn’t even a Para), when he was caught he’d just pull his sleeve back and the Para’s would just move onto the next man for some :bash: 'fun'.
Argyll
03-16-2003, 04:22 PM
Saint,
You watch too much television!!I saw the same thing on "Ultimate Force" with Ross Kemp,and its not always Paras who play Op For,and it doesn't matter what regiment you're in they kick the **** out of everyone!!!
Here's one for you" Fact 70% of the SAS are made up of jocks....why cause were hard bastards".....comment made by Eddie Stone ex SAS
JiJoMacLE45
03-16-2003, 04:36 PM
Air Force PJs have a long standing tradition of getting jolly green giant feet tattooed on their butts.
Bala ya khumak
03-16-2003, 05:27 PM
Saint,
You watch too much television!!I saw the same thing on "Ultimate Force" with Ross Kemp,and its not always Paras who play Op For,and it doesn't matter what regiment you're in they kick the **** out of everyone!!!
Here's one for you" Fact 70% of the SAS are made up of jocks....why cause were hard bastards".....comment made by Eddie Stone ex SAS
One: I don't watch TV.
Two: Week 11-post trainning it's all Paras (some Gurkhas from the Brecon or Sandhurst demo Companies occasionally) - during combat survival.
Three: When Jock moved to London he constantly annoyed his English acquaintances by boasting about how great Scotland was. Finally, in exasperation, one said - "Well, if Scotland's so marvelous, how come you didn't stay there?"
"Well," explained Jock "they're all so clever up there I had to come down here to have any chance of making it at all..."
Argyll
03-17-2003, 06:57 AM
Ok Saint,
I don't belive for 1 min you don't watch TV,and judging from your posts I would guess as to your age would be 14-18 bracket,I may be wrong!,and if I am I apologise!.Again all info you have given can be found on various websites,wrt to "hunter force" from the net I found 'mainly Paras or Gurkhas'.not exclusively paras,so your pegasus biro,doesn't wash literaly!!E&E is a week long exercise starting of with Survival techniques,with the culmination of running for your life.......nobody escapes!!
Week 11 is not E&E!!
E&E is the very last part of selection process,which is nearly 6 months,from assembling to "Badging"!!and then after its onto continuation training!
In the 80's there was only 2 selection times,and there was a good time to try,so your "friend" should have told you that and why?
Why am I being awkward here,and to you,well I done 8 yrs in the Inf,and have/had mates who are/were badged members,and I always get a little sceptical about certain claims!!
Bala ya khumak
03-17-2003, 10:40 AM
Ok Saint,
I don't belive for 1 min you don't watch TV,and judging from your posts I would guess as to your age would be 14-18 bracket,I may be wrong!,and if I am I apologise!.Again all info you have given can be found on various websites,wrt to "hunter force" from the net I found 'mainly Paras or Gurkhas'.not exclusively paras,so your pegasus biro,doesn't wash literaly!!E&E is a week long exercise starting of with Survival techniques,with the culmination of running for your life.......nobody escapes!!
Week 11 is not E&E!!
E&E is the very last part of selection process,which is nearly 6 months,from assembling to "Badging"!!and then after its onto continuation training!
In the 80's there was only 2 selection times,and there was a good time to try,so your "friend" should have told you that and why?
Why am I being awkward here,and to you,well I done 8 yrs in the Inf,and have/had mates who are/were badged members,and I always get a little sceptical about certain claims!!
rofl
And I said week 11 - (- as in through to) post training
Argyll
03-17-2003, 02:42 PM
Just as I thought then,you can only reply with an emoticon!
You still can't even get it right!
you replied "as I said week 11-post training"(which indicates after training)
E&E is part of Selection my friend,and is the culmination of 6 months of the selection process,so what you're telling everyone is that E&E comes after being "badged"
Continuity training is where the probationer goes to his assigned troop/Squadron where he learns,amongst other things Parachuting(HAHO/HALO)signals,patrol tactics,advanced 1st aid etc!
Bala ya khumak
03-17-2003, 02:53 PM
Just as I thought then,you can only reply with an emoticon!
You still can't even get it right!
you replied "as I said week 11-post training"(which indicates after training)
E&E is part of Selection my friend,and is the culmination of 6 months of the selection process,so what you're telling everyone is that E&E comes after being "badged"
Continuity training is where the probationer goes to his assigned troop/Squadron where he learns,amongst other things Parachuting(HAHO/HALO)signals,patrol tactics,advanced 1st aid etc!
Week 11 - the beginning of Combat Survival - Week 14 (that's Week 14 of the selection process - in Combat Survival) is Escape and evasion.
"week 11-post training" (as I've already said) - being Week 11 THROUGH TO (NOT PAST) - post training.
People like you everywhere Argyll, have fun.
Argyll
03-17-2003, 03:31 PM
People like me?
Care to elaborate,me I was in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders from 1980 -88,I was a Milan instructor.,and done 2 tours of N.I,me I can prove myself,can you?PM me if you want to know more,I aint ashamed or have anything to hide...........do you have a military background?
I don't particularly want to turn this into a slagging match,as I said b4 I have/still have "badged" mates.
If selection is approximately 6 months long,and the E&E is at the END of the process,how on earth can that be week 14........week 14 is around the time of Jungle warfare,so can you be more specific?
Bala ya khumak
03-17-2003, 03:46 PM
People like me?
Care to elaborate,me I was in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders from 1980 -88,I was a Milan instructor.,and done 2 tours of N.I,me I can prove myself,can you?PM me if you want to know more,I aint ashamed or have anything to hide...........do you have a military background?
I don't particularly want to turn this into a slagging match,as I said b4 I have/still have "badged" mates.
If selection is approximately 6 months long,and the E&E is at the END of the process,how on earth can that be week 14........week 14 is around the time of Jungle warfare,so can you be more specific?
SAS selection time frames are referred to as "Weeks", like TA training weekends that might be months apart, Week 11 in the beginning of Combat Survival, Weeks 5-10 is the Jungle Phase - E&E is none that the end of the four week Combat Survival.
As for elaboration I was referring to your attitude, but then you already knew that.
Argyll
03-17-2003, 04:25 PM
And what is it about my attitude?
You never answered any of my indirect questions,so what am I to think?
I mearly pointed out something you described happened to a mate,regarding the biro incident,and I pointed out that I saw the same thing on a TV drama series called "Ultimate Force" coincidence ?
I then gave you an small insight into my military background,and all you can come up with is people like me,and my attitude,I asked you to be more specific,all the info can be gained from the net,thats all I stated,you have said nothing to convince me otherwise>
Bala ya khumak
03-17-2003, 06:49 PM
And what is it about my attitude?
You never answered any of my indirect questions,so what am I to think?
I mearly pointed out something you described happened to a mate,regarding the biro incident,and I pointed out that I saw the same thing on a TV drama series called "Ultimate Force" coincidence ?
I then gave you an small insight into my military background,and all you can come up with is people like me,and my attitude,I asked you to be more specific,all the info can be gained from the net,thats all I stated,you have said nothing to convince me otherwise>
I suggest you review your posts on this page. I have nothing more to say.
Argyll
03-18-2003, 01:33 AM
And I'm looking for?
My 1st comment in this thread related to a pic on this sight about a very seasoned SF operator who had a totoo,and I made the comment,try calling this guy a cissie,after a previos memeber said tatoos are for cissies,then it was your comments,of which we have had this debate ongoing,so as far as I can see,maybe being 40 years old I am missing something here,care to enlighten me?
As for my attitude,well I asked a few "friends" to read the posts to see if I was coming across as a "wa***r",and they said the same thing,and I'll leave this one to your imagination.
I also guessed as to your age group,you never rebuffed me on that one so I will assume that I am correct!?
I have told you about my past Military experience,which was to offer some crediability to my line of questioning.......and about "friends" who were "bagged",again offering more credability,but all you retorted to was about my attitude..........you said You were saying nothing more about this .....well Saint,thank you for your responses.......but I feel the vast majority of guys who post here with some Military background,especially our own,will know who has more credability here!
Bala ya khumak
03-22-2003, 10:05 AM
And I'm looking for?
My 1st comment in this thread related to a pic on this sight about a very seasoned SF operator who had a totoo,and I made the comment,try calling this guy a cissie,after a previos memeber said tatoos are for cissies,then it was your comments,of which we have had this debate ongoing,so as far as I can see,maybe being 40 years old I am missing something here,care to enlighten me?
As for my attitude,well I asked a few "friends" to read the posts to see if I was coming across as a "wa***r",and they said the same thing,and I'll leave this one to your imagination.
I also guessed as to your age group,you never rebuffed me on that one so I will assume that I am correct!?
I have told you about my past Military experience,which was to offer some crediability to my line of questioning.......and about "friends" who were "bagged",again offering more credability,but all you retorted to was about my attitude..........you said You were saying nothing more about this .....well Saint,thank you for your responses.......but I feel the vast majority of guys who post here with some Military background,especially our own,will know who has more credability here!
My background is none of your business. Plus, a military background doesn't equal creditability, true or not. And you were well off on the age thing too, but that was just a childish attempt at, well, something...
chickenhawk
03-23-2003, 04:04 AM
i am drowning in the testosterone!
In that case, chickenhawk, this might be more to your liking
www.marthastewart.com
chickenhawk
03-23-2003, 02:53 PM
no thanks JKD i don't support white collar criminals
Good for you. The point is if you're drowning in testosterone, then go find a site with more estrogen. You came here, remember. You registered and you took the time to post. If you don't like the site then just go elsewhere. :roll:
chickenhawk
03-23-2003, 04:00 PM
but i like the site JKD... well, i find it entertaining atleast
Shadow
04-06-2003, 04:25 AM
http://gsg9.net/PHP/Bilder/Sek/Bilder/SEK_26.jpg
German SEK
I know of a corpsman who has removed the tatts of personnel to engage covert ops. they use low powered lasers to burn them off.
JohnJohn
04-06-2003, 06:21 PM
And I'm looking for?
My 1st comment in this thread related to a pic on this sight about a very seasoned SF operator who had a totoo,and I made the comment,try calling this guy a cissie,after a previos memeber said tatoos are for cissies,then it was your comments,of which we have had this debate ongoing,so as far as I can see,maybe being 40 years old I am missing something here,care to enlighten me?
As for my attitude,well I asked a few "friends" to read the posts to see if I was coming across as a "wa***r",and they said the same thing,and I'll leave this one to your imagination.
I also guessed as to your age group,you never rebuffed me on that one so I will assume that I am correct!?
I have told you about my past Military experience,which was to offer some crediability to my line of questioning.......and about "friends" who were "bagged",again offering more credability,but all you retorted to was about my attitude..........you said You were saying nothing more about this .....well Saint,thank you for your responses.......but I feel the vast majority of guys who post here with some Military background,especially our own,will know who has more credability here!
My background is none of your business. Plus, a military background doesn't equal creditability, true or not. And you were well off on the age thing too, but that was just a childish attempt at, well, something...
so in other words... you don't know jack **** and claim to be an expert because you have read a few things on the internet and seen a few things on bbc? rofl
Piccolo
04-06-2003, 10:36 PM
http://gsg9.net/PHP/Bilder/Sek/Bilder/SEK_26.jpg
German SEK
While that is a cool picture (Guy has serious guns), it's not directly related. The SEK is the equivilent of US SWAT teams, not exactly Military Specops.
grn_brt
05-19-2007, 03:14 PM
I spent 12 years Army (1978 to 1990), about 11 years of that in SF units and about 10 of that as an active operator, MOS 18B and cross trained as 18C.
I have numerous tattoos and I can tell you, I am not a 'Jackass' as you so eloquently put it, as well I have numerous scars, some from 'bullet holes'.
Every tattoo has a reason (or should have) and every scar has a story (most of which you would prefer to forget).
I'd much rather be telling the story how/why I got my tattoos than how I got my scars...
I don't remember any restrictions on tattoos while I was in ... a little ribbing perhaps but that's about it. I got my first 'visible' tattoo the weekend before jump school, after the morning run I had just finished my pull ups to get into the pit and one of the black hats basically ragged on me about getting a tattoo and damaging government property and that whole bit, but as 'tough' as he was trying to act ... his eyes were smiling the whole time, he is the one who punched my wings into my chest when I received them ... wouldn’t have had it any other way... those are the stories that I'd prefer to tell.
My son graduated the Q-course in 2003 and I was honored to be the one to present him with his Special Forces tab as it is 'earned' not 'given'. He too has numerous tattoos as well and there didn't seem to be a problem.
If you've never been there, you don't have a clue.
Good Day
perhaps if they wanted you to go undercover, especially into an anti american group, of course then you could get flames inked onto the flag. only jackasses get tattoos anyway, real men get bullet holes. :D
ibstolidude
05-19-2007, 03:21 PM
Holy farkin' zombie thread - back from the dead.
The only tat' one cannot get is "Sink the Bismark" as a slut-stamp - unles like Beo you rcv a waiver for "exception to policy."
Robbee
05-19-2007, 03:22 PM
gm_brt, check the dates. You're replying to a post from over 4 years ago!
jizzmonkey
05-19-2007, 04:43 PM
**** sorry, I'm coughing from all the dust you just kicked up dragging this old thing off the shelve..I think a few of those members aren't even around anymore.
grn_brt
05-20-2007, 12:07 AM
:oops:
I'm new to this whole 'blog' or 'forum' thing ... and the fact that the post was 4 years old ... I imagine the author will never see my reply.
In any case, I guess it is merely informational reading then.
Good Evening.
gm_brt, check the dates. You're replying to a post from over 4 years ago!
Sand Man
05-20-2007, 08:24 AM
Stoli, ****, and Rob ... us civvies don't know about that so I think there is no problem with him posting that reply -- that is, if he's really a legit SF operator and his reason is what is really being felt by the community.
But if that's specifically stated in the rules then someone might as well lock this thread so no one can post anymore.
grn_brt
05-20-2007, 11:14 AM
Sand Man,
I had a number of things to say, but after reading your bio and finding that you are just a kid from another country, it's not worth my time.
Stoli, ****, and Rob ... us civvies don't know about that so I think there is no problem with him posting that reply -- that is, if he's really a legit SF operator and his reason is what is really being felt by the community.
But if that's specifically stated in the rules then someone might as well lock this thread so no one can post anymore.
Chops
05-20-2007, 02:08 PM
But mate "if you've never been there you don't have a clue". Kind of ironic don't you think?
I love being HSLD on the interweb.
If you are real deal, PM Ibstolidude or Beowulf.
Saint,
Here's one for you" Fact 70% of the SAS are made up of jocks....why cause were hard bastards".....comment made by Eddie Stone ex SAS
Over 96% of SASR members are Australian.
Just saying.
(I know this thread is rather old, but oh well.)
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