View Full Version : War declining worldwide, studies say
scott
08-31-2004, 02:58 AM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002019818_war30.html
aartamen
08-31-2004, 09:10 AM
It's just a phaze, it will pass. Like global warming thingy.
achilles
08-31-2004, 12:53 PM
The Canadian center's director, Andrew Mack, said the figures don't include deaths from war-induced starvation and disease, deaths from ethnic conflicts not involving states, or unopposed massacres, such as in Rwanda in 1994.
Genocides can be excluded since its a unilateral act, but the exclusion of the side-effects(war induced starvation etc) may be a cause of bias in estimating the victims, although those parameters might be in decline as well. This is a fortunate trend in regards to war victims, although i do not believe we can base any predictions on that, definitely we cannot claim that the trend will continue. Warfare is a pretty stochastic variable and numbers may start peaking again.
Really nice article.
Trident-za
08-31-2004, 03:49 PM
A question: if genocide, or "unilateral acts", are on the rise, is the world a better place just because the big guys aren't fighting amongst each other right now? This seems like a weird perversion of the statistics to me. Unless they really mean, war in places "that really count" are on a downward spiral.
If you ask me, the world as a whole is getting more violent and unfriendly - despite these "facts". And the side-effects of war, like starvation etc have always been an issue - you can't ignore them now!
achilles
09-01-2004, 12:22 AM
A question: if genocide, or "unilateral acts", are on the rise, is the world a better place just because the big guys aren't fighting amongst each other right now? This seems like a weird perversion of the statistics to me. Unless they really mean, war in places "that really count" are on a downward spiral.
If you ask me, the world as a whole is getting more violent and unfriendly - despite these "facts". And the side-effects of war, like starvation etc have always been an issue - you can't ignore them now!
Answer to bold: no its definitely not...you have been explicit in what i ve called 'bias' and i perfectly agree...it can be considered a statistical perversion. However the fact that less and less people are killed in combat (more of a random trend if you ask me, subject to fluctuations) is good irrespective of the statistical rigorousness. I wish i could have access to details regarding the statistical techniques they used...would be interesting.
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