Netanyahu Govt. Suggests Israelis Avoid Marrying American Jews

[Ordie]

The Netanyahu government's Ministry of Immigrant Absorption is sponsoring advertisements in at least five American communities that warn Israeli expatriates that they will lose their identities if they don't return home.
More:http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/11/netanyahu-government-suggests-israelis-avoid-marrying-american-jews/249166/

[LineDoggie]

And?......................................

[GB_FXST]

Perhaps the adds are in poor taste.

Perhaps there are other ways to convey the message of klita/absorpton.

However, the only form of contempt that I have ever known Israelis to hold to towards American Jews is limited to HS/College kids who ostensibly travel to Israel to work or study, but instead, want to do nothing at all but party.

[armored_diplomacy]

The idea, communicated in these ads, that America is no place for a proper Jew, and that a Jew who is concerned about the Jewish future should live in Israel, is archaic, and also chutzpadik (if you don't mind me resorting to the vernacular). The message is: Dear American Jews, thank you for lobbying for American defense aid (and what a great show you put on at the AIPAC convention every year!) but, please, stay away from our sons and daughters

Interesting conclusion, not free from controversy though.

[SuchIsLife]

My interpretation is that they are saying come home as we will need you in the event **** gets real bad. In other words more boots on the ground.

[Ordie]

The idea, communicated in these ads, that America is no place for a proper Jew

No nation on Earth in history has been as welcoming and accepting of Jews as in the United States.

[LineDoggie]

No nation on Earth in history has been as welcoming and accepting of Jews as in the United States.Israel..................

[Ordie]

Israel..................

Not in the case with Meyer Lansky.

[Umbro2914]

No nation on Earth in history has been as welcoming and accepting of Jews as in the United States.
IPerhaps Poland back in history.
for US, think 1930s....

[Pakal A3]

Perhaps the adds are in poor taste.

Perhaps there are other ways to convey the message of klita/absorpton.

However, the only form of contempt that I have ever known Israelis to hold to towards American Jews is limited to HS/College kids who ostensibly travel to Israel to work or study, but instead, want to do nothing at all but party.

Hey, if it werent for those parties, my freinds and i would never have been drunk enough to sign up for the IDF :lol:

[Clear_blues]

No nation on Earth in history has been as welcoming and accepting of Jews as in the United States.
We've had our fair share of unjust acts...

[tanks_alot]

Not in the case with Meyer Lansky.

Yeah, Israel didn't let an organized crime boss to immigrate. the horror!

[GB_FXST]

No nation on Earth in history has been as welcoming and accepting of Jews as in the United States.

With the exception of Israel (for obvious reason, such as the Law of Return), I agree, especially in the late 20th Century and 21st Century. Still, there are some low points, but nothing on the scale of the persecution/discrimination prevalent in other countries during modern times.

[J.Noah ה]

Does this mean I can't marry a JAP? :petting:

[Confuse]

Does this mean I can't marry a JAP? :petting:

Jewish American Person .... i hope that's what you mean

[Atlantic Friend]

Jewish American Person .... i hope that's what you mean

Jewish American Person or Jewish American Princess?

[tanks_alot]

To be fair, i can't think of many things which are more annoying than Americans trying to speak in Hebrew.

[Ordie]

Why would the Netanyahu Government push for Israelis not to marry Jews from other nations?

[Atlantic Friend]

Why would the Netanyahu Government push for Israelis not to marry Jews from other nations?

To limit immigration and/or assimilation I suppose?

[Ordie]

To limit immigration and/or assimilation I suppose?

That does not make sense given the non-Jewish population in Israel/Palestine has a higher birthrate.

If anything, Israelis are leaving the country to places such as Silicon Valley.

[Atlantic Friend]

But that also means Israel feels it needs Israelis in the country, not abroad.

From a totally outside perspective, I think that makes sense IMHO - just as Israel usually encourages non-Israeli Jews to make the aliyah after antisemitic incidents in their country, it's logical that it views Jewish emigration as the other side of the same peril.

[GB_FXST]

To be fair, i can't think of many things which are more annoying than Americans trying to speak in Hebrew.


You know, this is so true.

Hebrew accented with any other language is for some reason more palatable than American accented Hebrew.

Unfortunately, the less I speak it, the more ****ounced my accent becomes ... :(

[Ordie]

But that also means Israel feels it needs Israelis in the country, not abroad.

From a totally outside perspective, I think that makes sense IMHO - just as Israel usually encourages non-Israeli Jews to make the aliyah after antisemitic incidents in their country, it's logical that it views Jewish emigration as the other side of the same peril.

I don't know.

It would make more sense to lure back Silicon Valley Israelis with incentives. But there are no "Overseas Israeli" political party/lobby or representation within the cabinet to speak for them.

If anything, having Israelis abroad promotes the country in terms of person-to person contact. Ironically Israeli abroad tend get along really well with the Palestinian communities overseas.

[GB_FXST]

I don't know.

It would make more sense to lure back Silicon Valley Israelis with incentives. But there are no "Overseas Israeli" political party/lobby or representation within the cabinet to speak for them.

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No voice for "yoredim", and as a "yored," I am okay with that. It is part and parcel of my decision not to live in Israel.




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If anything, having Israelis abroad promotes the country in terms of person-to person contact.

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This is true in my case.




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Ironically Israeli abroad tend get along really well with the Palestinian communities overseas.

Not so sure aboout this one.

[Ordie]

Not so sure aboout this one.

From what I've seen Israelis with backgrounds from other ME countries (Morocco, Iran, Iraq) tend to get along with Arabs in California.

[kamazz]

Netanyahu is absolutely right. American Jewish girls are all spoiled pain in the ass yentas.

[Kaplanr]

Wanker. Mah atah O'mair? Only the New Yorkers - though Golda was painful to listen to also.


To be fair, i can't think of many things which are more annoying than Americans trying to speak in Hebrew.

[OrangeWolf]

You know, this is so true.

Hebrew accented with any other language is for some reason more palatable than American accented Hebrew.

Unfortunately, the less I speak it, the more ****ounced my accent becomes ... :(

Well us Dutchmen usually have an easier time with the ****unciation.

[tanks_alot]

Well us Dutchmen usually have an easier time with the ****unciation.

It's really not about the CHHHHHH's, it's because they usualy really unnecessarly over ****ounce things, plus they just sound corny.

[OrangeWolf]

It's really not about the CHHHHHH's, it's because they usualy really unnecessarly over ****ounce things, plus they just sound corny.

Well we are just better than Americans /debate.

[J.Noah ה]

It's really not about the CHHHHHH's, it's because they usualy really unnecessarly over ****ounce things, plus they just sound corny.

Its not the easiest language to learn and speak.

[OrangeWolf]

Its not the easiest language to learn and speak.

Neither is any other language. There are so many factors involved.

[J.Noah ה]

Neither is any other language. There are so many factors involved.

True but there are very few places in the world that an American or non native speaker can practice hebrew. I might add that Israeli english speakers are quit annoying when they say "ehmm" before every sentence.

[deathil93]

With the state of things in Israel right now, no wonder so many Israelies are leaving the country...

[Elemental666]

With the state of things in Israel right now, no wonder so many Israelies are leaving the country...

Now? During which phase of our history was it a quiet peacefull place to live in exactly.

[California Joe]

Perhaps the adds are in poor taste.

Perhaps there are other ways to convey the message of klita/absorpton.

However, the only form of contempt that I have ever known Israelis to hold to towards American Jews is limited to HS/College kids who ostensibly travel to Israel to work or study, but instead, want to do nothing at all but party.

That's because they get there and there are all of these hot girls walking around carrying M16s and they lose their minds. ;)

[Chanan]

To be fair, i can't think of many things which are more annoying than Americans trying to speak in Hebrew.


One day you will travel outside of Israel and you might wonder what people think of your well intentioned attempt to communicate in the indigenous language. They say travel broadens the mind...

[armored_diplomacy]

If anything, having Israelis abroad promotes the country in terms of person-to person contact.


True and totally correct. I´ve met 2 and they really made you want to visit it.


No nation on Earth in history has been as welcoming and accepting of Jews as in the United States.

Untill the late 30s, Argentina was quite welcoming also.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_of_Argentina#World_War_II.2C_Holocaust_and_antisemitism

[tanks_alot]

They say travel broadens the mind...

They lied. p-)


Some of you have taken this way too seriously...

[TG211]

That sounds like forcing people's hand. I don't find it fit for a democracy.

[BlackWarder]

I might be watching the wrong commercials but the ones that I saw were about emigrating back to Israel and not against marrying american Jews...

Warder

[deathil93]

Now? During which phase of our history was it a quiet peacefull place to live in exactly.
I was talking about the economy and the lack of gov care about the subject.

[Ordie]

I shared the videos to my friends who are Jewish Americans.
They were immediately offended because the ad's alluded that Americans were less Jewish than Israeli's. They were quick to point out that American Jews are more likley to attend religious services than Israelis.

[Camera]

I shared the videos to my friends who are Jewish Americans.
They were immediately offended because the ad's alluded that Americans were less Jewish than Israeli's. They were quick to point out that American Jews are more likley to attend religious services than Israelis.

There's nothing to be offended of.
I saw the videos (which are in Hebrew) who warn of the dangers of assimilation. Nothing in their contant indicates that the fictious mixed marriages are between former Israelis and American Jews and not with non Jewish Americans.
Nethanyau ordered today to stop this stupid campaign.

[Farax]

Lol bit silly