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Scottie
09-01-2004, 05:12 AM
I was wondering if there are any non muslim terrorists, or anti-Muslim terrorsists. Seems like only terrorists are muslims.
Any other thought?
fantassin
09-01-2004, 05:15 AM
Try PIRA, RIRA, ETA, FARC, M19.....not many rags on these heads.
SeanAshi
09-01-2004, 05:23 AM
American Terrorist Groups:
The Aryan Republican Army
American nazi Party
Christian Identity
KKK
National Alliance
Silent Brotherhood
The Aryan Republican Army
They should be treated just like al-Qaeda
mack pl
09-01-2004, 05:25 AM
Try PIRA, RIRA, ETA, FARC, M19......
Sendero Luminoso, MRTA, Rote Armee Fraktion, Brigade Rosso(sp.) etc. etc.
terrorism isnt only muslims weapon :|
IRA... There a tons of lesser known non-Muslim terrorist groups, though, it does seem that "Muslims" rely on it the most and often seem the most indiscriminate. Groups like ETA on the otherhand, at least sometimes have the courtesy to call and warn ahead of time. :|
Zarathustra
09-01-2004, 06:15 AM
FLNC, CORSICA NAZIONE...
The most infamous one in US was Timothy Mcvey who took out an Oklahoma federal building in the mid 90s.
Aum Shinrikyo
Shining Path
Communist Party of Philippines/New Peoples Army
State Department Foreign Terrorist Organization list (http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/pk1/wwwh04043003.html)
State Department terrorist list background information (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2002/html/19991.htm)
Sri Lanka- tamil tigers used to be the biggest terrorists in the world they just broke a 2 year ceasefire.
Nepal - Maoist rebels are constently bombing places western media other then the BBC pays little attention to it.
Khabbi
09-01-2004, 08:21 AM
ah cmon ! :cantbeli:
ShadowNeo
09-01-2004, 08:25 AM
Ah memories, if only we could go back to the days of the Die Hard movies when terrorists tended to be German and preferred stealing gold to killing infidels.
EvanL
09-01-2004, 09:09 AM
FLQ
Mr Gently Benevolent
09-01-2004, 09:10 AM
American Terrorist Groups:
The Aryan Republican Army
American nazi Party
Christian Identity
KKK
National Alliance
Silent Brotherhood
The Aryan Republican Army
They should be treated just like al-Qaeda
LOS ANGELES (*******) - Jewish Defense League Chairman Irv Rubin, jailed for allegedly plotting to bomb a mosque and the offices of a Arab-American congressman, was left brain dead and on life support on Monday after slitting his throat in a suicide attempt.
You could add a few more to the list.
Macs.
09-01-2004, 09:29 AM
Try PIRA, RIRA, ETA, FARC, M19......
Sendero Luminoso, MRTA, Rote Armee Fraktion, Brigade Rosso(sp.) etc. etc.
terrorism isnt only muslims weapon :|
The "Rote Armee Faktion" is no more... p-)
mack pl
09-01-2004, 09:34 AM
Try PIRA, RIRA, ETA, FARC, M19......
Sendero Luminoso, MRTA, Rote Armee Fraktion, Brigade Rosso(sp.) etc. etc.
terrorism isnt only muslims weapon :|
The "Rote Armee Faktion" is no more... p-)
I know, but he didn't ask for organisation who are still active ;) so I post few organistations as an example of non-muslim terrorists groups ;)
anyway, Sendero Luminoso isn't active too I guess ;)
There was "baroh goldestain" he was crazy.....
futurepilot2004
09-01-2004, 10:27 AM
Northern Ireland has to win the title of most terrorist groups:
PIRA(provisional Irish Republican Army)
CIRA(Continuity Irish Republican Army)
RIRA(Real Irish Republican Army)
INLA(Irish National Liberation Army)
Fianna na hEireann
IPLO(Irish People's Liberation Organisation)
Saor Eire
UDA(Ulster Defence Army)
UVF(Ulster Volunteer Force)
UFF(Ulster Freedom Fighters)
Red Hand Defenders
Red Hand Commandos
LVF(Loyalist Volunteer Force)
Orange Volunteers
And a few others hanging around.
PIRA has worked with FARC, PLO, ETA, Libya and countless European terrorist groups.
PeoplesPoster
09-01-2004, 10:27 AM
To bad these groups have done jack **** within the last 5 years.
Mr Gently Benevolent
09-01-2004, 10:32 AM
To bad these groups have done jack **** within the last 5 years.
They have not committed acts on the scale of Al-Q but they do cause misery in Northern Ireland and some of them cause a fair bit of misery in the Republic through drug dealing.
Hydro
09-01-2004, 10:33 AM
To bad these groups have done jack **** within the last 5 years.
I think thats a blessing, don't you?
To bad these groups have done jack **** within the last 5 years.
RIRA: 3 bombs in London 3 years ago. Hammersmith bridge, Ealing Broadway and the BBC television center, all in west London.
Tamil tigers (hindu): suicide bombed a police station (buddhist) 1 month ago
maoist rebels plant bombs in nepal last week.
FutureGrunt
09-01-2004, 12:10 PM
American Terrorist Groups:
The Aryan Republican Army
American nazi Party
Christian Identity
KKK
National Alliance
Silent Brotherhood
The Aryan Republican Army
They should be treated just like al-Qaeda
Those "organizations" are so heavily infiltrated by FBI and police that you cannot call them terrorists anymore ;)
foxtrot023
09-01-2004, 12:44 PM
IRA... There a tons of lesser known non-Muslim terrorist groups, though, it does seem that "Muslims" rely on it the most and often seem the most indiscriminate. Groups like ETA on the otherhand, at least sometimes have the courtesy to call and warn ahead of time. :|
Not always. their bloodiest attacks often come with no warnings at all.
futurepilot2004
09-01-2004, 12:53 PM
The IRA has a tendency to ring ahead to give people time to evacuate but often use this to steer crowds towards the actual bomb. Ie the Omagh bombing which killed 29 people. A caller told police the bomb was at the town hall so police began clearing the area around the building by moving people down the main street, the bomb wasnt in the town hall but at the other end of the main street.Several bombings in London used this tactic too.
And to the person who said "To bad these groups have done jack **** within the last 5 years."
Firstly you are completly wrong with that statment and secondly if it was the case, how would it be a bad thing??????? :bash:
usa320
09-01-2004, 01:09 PM
Terrorism isnt reserved for muslims... Nazis, commies, anarchists, racists, budhist extremists and even extreme fundementalists christians all have their militancies.
Skullknight
09-01-2004, 02:41 PM
American Indian Movement
Zarathustra
09-01-2004, 03:03 PM
Terrorism isnt reserved for muslims... Nazis, commies, anarchists, racists, budhist extremists and even extreme fundementalists christians all have their militancies.
And even some jewish organization...
Fargin
09-01-2004, 03:06 PM
NKOTB
PsihoKeke
09-01-2004, 03:09 PM
To bad these groups have done jack **** within the last 5 years.
I agree, bomb under your seat would be most welcome.
Groups like ETA on the otherhand, at least sometimes have the courtesy to call and warn ahead of time. :|
Wrong, Iīve read this things sometimes before in foreign media and I donīt know where this comes from. They do this usually when they put low explosive charges, usually looking for some attendance of mass media, exactly just like they are doing now. But they kill every time they can and ever they think itīs useful for their purpose, that itīs always, and they were very fond of cheating policemen experts in deactivation warning about a bomb in lets say a white car parked in the right side of the road, and when policemen are working in that car that in fact has a lethal bomb, terrorists explodes a bomb in a yellow car parked in the left side 6 meters ahead. They worked hard for killing around 900 people. There is other terrorist group in Spain called Grapo which has degenerated in a common criminal gang after been hit hard by police, lately we havenīt listened of them but two years ago they appeared robbing an armoured bank wagon with extreme violence and using new recruits of anti-globalization environments.
Btw, some groups listed here like Sendero Luminoso, from Peru, were defeated years ago and they donīt exist anymore, it was the only good thing done by president Fujimori.
The 70s and early 80s were known as the lead years in Europe, there were terrorists groups in almost any big european country, this age lasted many years in the case of Spain. I think we are winning the battle, but if I compare that age(still donīt finished) with the new islamic terrorist I donīt miss that age,
Ah memories, if only we could go back to the days of the Die Hard movies when terrorists tended to be German and preferred stealing gold to killing infidels.
Well, this may be the case of USA because itīs a fact that except racial violence, you almost didnīt suffer terrorism at home until the 9/11 and even since them you are safe again, but in Europe the story itīs quiet different.
In the case of islamic integrists, as a spanish, I know who are they, I know they are the enemy as clear as are the letters I write and they arenīt "my people", we arenīt afraid of fighting them with all the resources we have, persecuting islamic terrorists donīt divide our society. In the case of Eta, everybody here suffered a lot, our society almost was destroyed, you even couldnīt trust in some relatives of you or in some of your neighbours, even if you had motives to mourn some victim killed by Eta you could meet in the street some SOB who looked at you laughing in your own face, thatīs why I get angry when some bastards of foreign origins said spanish surrendered to islamic terrorists. When I was almost a baby, the german consul in spanish basque country was kidnapped by ETA and now we know he was hidden by terrorists just few kilometers at the north, in french basque territory. The german was in a little village and he managed to escape so when he met some folks he happilly told them his story and asked for help, so he was sent to the local clerygman, the first thing clerygman did was handing the consul to ETA again. We arenīt talking here of infidels, as you see, nor the criminals nor the victims, that was the situation we had to live here.
Zapp Brannigan
09-01-2004, 04:36 PM
anyway, Sendero Luminoso isn't active too I guess ;)Sendero is still active. It almost went away, but has had a resurgence in the past 5 years. It is much weaker now, though, and not very active in the major cities; hence it does not get much international media coverage.
anyway, Sendero Luminoso isn't active too I guess ;)Sendero is still active. It almost went away, but has had a resurgence in the past 5 years. It is much weaker now, though, and not very active in the major cities; hence it does not get much international media coverage.
Still alive Sendero? Did they cause victims lately?
mack pl
09-01-2004, 05:21 PM
anyway, Sendero Luminoso isn't active too I guess ;)Sendero is still active. It almost went away, but has had a resurgence in the past 5 years. It is much weaker now, though, and not very active in the major cities; hence it does not get much international media coverage.
Still alive Sendero? Did they cause victims lately?
so, are they active or no, I must admit that I havent got actual(sp.) informations.....and I dont want to spread rumours :roll:
Regards
khukuri
09-01-2004, 06:08 PM
Atleast I know they still have people working actively for them. Maybe not in any violent role anymore. But they still are active and recruit people.
achilles
09-01-2004, 06:18 PM
.Seems like only terrorists are muslims.
I guess it comes down to genetics right? Muslims have terrorism-inducing genes according to your impression. I dont think you are serious about that.
Historically, check out Greece for instance. November 17th (active from 1975 until 2002 with a long list of victims from all over the world, notorious). May 1st (yes we love dates). And a number of other minor but interelated terrorist groups under names like..."revolutionary struggle", "people's liberation struggle" and all the like. They are not active anymore since with the demise of Nov. 17 they all came down.
Check out Italy during the 70s ;) ...the notorious far-left Red Brigades.
So i guess more or less there are terrorist genes in every race (if there is such thing as a race). Cut those muslims some slack ;)
PS: in a sense you can consider as terrorists, groups like coza nostra or the japanese yakuza. Pure mob...i think they fullfil all the credentials
I guess it comes down to genetics right? Muslims have terrorism-inducing genes according to your impression. I dont think you are serious about that.
Muslim is not a race, so not a genetic thing.
Zapp Brannigan
09-01-2004, 07:24 PM
anyway, Sendero Luminoso isn't active too I guess ;)Sendero is still active. It almost went away, but has had a resurgence in the past 5 years. It is much weaker now, though, and not very active in the major cities; hence it does not get much international media coverage.
Still alive Sendero? Did they cause victims lately?
On 20 March 2002, they set off a bomb across the street from the US Embassy in Lima that killed 10 people and wounded 30. In June 2003, they kidnapped 71 people (68 workers and 3 police guards) from the Camisea gas pipeline project in Toccate, Ayacucho Department. Those were their two biggest actions.
The U.S. State Department in its last report on Patterns of Global Terrorism noted 134 kidnappings and armed attacks in 2002, and 96 as of October 2003.
Kilgor
09-01-2004, 07:25 PM
.Seems like only terrorists are muslims.
I guess it comes down to genetics right? Muslims have terrorism-inducing genes according to your impression. I dont think you are serious about that.
Lets not reduce this to some sort of silly arguement where we play the race card. A thai islamic extremist is just as insane, as a chechen or arab one.
There is something about the Islamic faith, more so than others that seems to promote violence and extremism in SOME cases. And given the large amount of muslims over the world, this is a problem.
penna
09-01-2004, 07:45 PM
.Seems like only terrorists are muslims.
I guess it comes down to genetics right? Muslims have terrorism-inducing genes according to your impression. I dont think you are serious about that.
Lets not reduce this to some sort of silly arguement where we play the race card. A thai islamic extremist is just as insane, as a chechen or arab one.
There is something about the Islamic faith, more so than others that seems to promote violence and extremism in SOME cases. And given the large amount of muslims over the world, this is a problem.
it's because of the fact that jihad, although it's supposed to be used in extreme circumstances, is permissible. Since it is permitted, man can abuse it and misuse it. This has happened with individuals claiming to be christians, however nowhere in christianity is violence permitted. Depictions of muslim heros usually involve swords or wargear. Look at Hindu or Christian artwork, much more peaceful in nature.
FLQ
Yea, can't forget those douche bags. Also some Canadian Aboriginal groups. I don't know what they call themselves but they have had firefights with the RCMP. Bastards killed a cop and got off. They also took hostage a Vandoo patrol, I think they sent the JTF2 after them, but I'm not sure on the details.
MARINO
09-02-2004, 03:42 AM
IRA... There a tons of lesser known non-Muslim terrorist groups, though, it does seem that "Muslims" rely on it the most and often seem the most indiscriminate. Groups like ETA on the otherhand, at least sometimes have the courtesy to call and warn ahead of time. :|
What?????????????????????? The courtesy!!!!!!!!!!!! They kindap an kill people with a bullet in the back, they are just cowards.
MARINO
09-02-2004, 03:45 AM
To bad these groups have done jack **** within the last 5 years.
You are not Spanish you don't have same info. ETA was stopped during a year and tehis summer they 'd put some bombs.
MARINO
09-02-2004, 03:48 AM
IRA... There a tons of lesser known non-Muslim terrorist groups, though, it does seem that "Muslims" rely on it the most and often seem the most indiscriminate. Groups like ETA on the otherhand, at least sometimes have the courtesy to call and warn ahead of time. :|
Not always. their bloodiest attacks often come with no warnings at all.
And they warn ahead to kill people from EOD and policemen.
Scottie
09-02-2004, 05:44 AM
.Seems like only terrorists are muslims.
I guess it comes down to genetics right? Muslims have terrorism-inducing genes according to your impression. I dont think you are serious about that.
Lets not reduce this to some sort of silly arguement where we play the race card. A thai islamic extremist is just as insane, as a chechen or arab one.
There is something about the Islamic faith, more so than others that seems to promote violence and extremism in SOME cases. And given the large amount of muslims over the world, this is a problem.
it's because of the fact that jihad, although it's supposed to be used in extreme circumstances, is permissible. Since it is permitted, man can abuse it and misuse it. This has happened with individuals claiming to be christians, however nowhere in christianity is violence permitted. Depictions of muslim heros usually involve swords or wargear. Look at Hindu or Christian artwork, much more peaceful in nature.
I have to say i agree with you there penna!
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