Cleric supports targeting children

[Gringo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?
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By Rajeev Syal
(Filed: 05/09/2004)


An extremist Islamic cleric based in Britain said yesterday that he
would support hostage-taking at British schools if carried out by
terrorists with a just cause.

Omar Bakri Mohammed, the spiritual leader of the extremist sect al-
Muhajiroun, said that holding women and children hostage would be a
reasonable course of action for a Muslim who has suffered under
British rule.

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Mohammed said: "If an
Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be
justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.

"As long as the Iraqi did not deliberately kill women and children,
and they were killed in the crossfire, that would be okay."

Mr Mohammed, 44, who lives in Edmonton, north London, but is
originally from Syria, also claimed that the Chechen rebels were not
responsible for the deaths of more than 350 people - at least half
of them children - who are so far known to have died in Beslan.

"The Mujahideen [Chechen rebels] would not have wanted to kill those
people, because it is strictly forbidden as a Muslim to deliberately
kill women and children. It is the fault of the Russians," he said.

The father of seven came to Britain in 1985 after being deported
from Saudi Arabia because of his membership of a banned group. He
has since been given leave by the Home Office to remain in Britain
for five years but the Government is reviewing his status.

He gave an interview yesterday to promote a "celebratory" conference
in London next Saturday to commemorate the third anniversary of the
September 11 attacks.

Andrew Dismore, the Labour MP for Hendon, was infuriated by Mr
Mohammed's comments. "That sounds to me like incitement and I will
report him to Scotland Yard," he said. "It is an insult to most
moderate Muslims, who are sick of people like this claiming to
represent them."


What a f***ing moron! :fork:

[Hullebullen]

I support targetting Omar Bakri Mohammed...

[Brozozo]

Why the f*ck do they let him live?

Now I got a reason to take his 7 punk-ass kids hostage..."Hey Mohammed, I killed yo kids...but for a just cause...to beautify the community!!!"

Just send his ass to Guantanamo and don't let him see the light of day again.

[Shake n Bake]

Look at the kind of people we're dealing here with, Folks....


I trust no muslim

[oldsoak]

This guy needs to be shown the door and booted out from the UK. One wonders if we didnt deliberately start allowing radical muslim clerics into the UK with the idea we could use them to forment trouble in regimes we didnt see eye to eye with - there can be no other explanation for allowing someone with his views into the UK.

[Romulus]

This guy wouldn't last a day here in the US if he said that shat.

Why are there so many muslim extremists in the UK?

[Krasnaya Zvezda]

This guy needs to be shown the door and booted out from the UK. One wonders if we didnt deliberately start allowing radical muslim clerics into the UK with the idea we could use them to forment trouble in regimes we didnt see eye to eye with - there can be no other explanation for allowing someone with his views into the UK.

Right, and I'd include Akhmed Zakayev in the list of personae non gratae!
How on earth can the UK government grant these scums "political asylum"?
C'mon Tony, do at least one "right thing" for the "just cause" (before UK voters have enough of your idiocies and tell you to find another job!)...do me a great favor and send this patented Chechen murderer back to Russia, I'm sure your good friend Vladimir will prepare a nice welcoming ceremony for him ;-)

[vryhpyammoadded]

Sounds like a great candidate for deportation. I think they should dump him off the plane at Beslan.
Of course the locals would be well informed of his arrival.

[Kilgor]

do me a great favor and send this patented Chechen murderer back to Russia, I'm sure your good friend Vladimir will prepare a nice welcoming ceremony for him ;-)

I think russia needs to build itself a massive gulag out in cold wastelands, where there are no reporters to cry about human rights like in cuba.

[Flagg]

We need a lawyer...where's Hank when we need him?

I would reckon this could be construed as something along the lines of yelling "Fire!" in a packed movie theatre....a potential threat to the general public.

He is a leader condoning violent behavior on the part of his followers.

I wonder if we're likely to see changes to residency/citizenship laws to allow the deportation of those who pose a threat to the public.

[Krasnaya Zvezda]

Sounds like a great candidate for deportation. I think they should dump him off the plane at Beslan.
Of course the locals would be well informed of his arrival.

Right!
Just let me know when they airdrop that piece of **** over Beslan and I'll be deligthed to join the local "welcoming committee" p-) I'll bring my finest baseball bat for the occasion :D

[5jumpchump]

I''l bring pliers and a blowtorch ;)

[Milkman]

I will remind myself to kill Mr. Omar Bakri Mohammed next time I goto the UK, which should be next summer. That is ofcourse if he lives that long. p-)

[chauncy republicans]

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Mohammed said: "If an
Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be
justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.

"As long as the Iraqi did not deliberately kill women and children,
and they were killed in the crossfire, that would be okay."

Anybody else notice this blatant hypocricy? :cantbeli:

[penna]

this cleric should be deported.

[Gatling]

oldsoak
This guy needs to be shown the door and booted out from the UK. One wonders if we didnt deliberately start allowing radical muslim clerics into the UK with the idea we could use them to forment trouble in regimes we didnt see eye to eye with - there can be no other explanation for allowing someone with his views into the UK. I second that.Again , much respect to the brits, but what makes them keep the kinda garbage, even the Saudis find too radical?Unbelievable

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

this makes me soooo angry! what ever happened to old fashion british justice! :(

[Hydro]

Piece of ****. He won't get chucked out, because it's racist to do so!!11 IS TOO!!

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

Piece of ****. He won't get chucked out, because it's racist to do so!!11 IS TOO!!

exactly... agghhhh... what can ya do?

[DE_Six]

I support targetting Omar Bakri Mohammed...

Ditto.

[Deuterium]

Wow. All I can say is wow. Unbelievable.

[Germaine]

wonder what his reaction would be if it was reversed?
They'd be denouncing Western society sooo fast with reprisals


And we'd never do that, unthinkable

[Ekie]

"The Mujahideen [Chechen rebels] would not have wanted to kill those
people, because it is strictly forbidden as a Muslim to deliberately
kill women and children."

Yeah right, tell that to Asma bint Marwan.

[seruriermarshal]

F**k this sh*t !

Kill him !

[uTu]

quick job for u sas

[Seiyuuki]

I'm all for freedom of speech...but if there is one clear example of inciting and promoting terrorism and especially against children, it is Omar Bakri Mohammed and what he said in that article.

Hope Scotland Yard follow through with Mr. Dismore's report.

[StarvingStudent47]

We need a lawyer...where's Hank when we need him?


**** the law; throw this guy in a wood chipper.

[usa320]

An extremist Islamic cleric based in Britain said yesterday that he
would support hostage-taking at British schools if carried out by
terrorists with a just cause.


That would be like Muhammad atta telling annoucning he was going to fly planes into buildings in august 2001 and us not doing anything about it.

The guy made a blatant threat to british schools, and he damn well be better taken out.

[Sayeret]

Even though freedom is of speech should be allowed this guy is going overboard and shouldn't be allowed to be saying what he's saying.

[usa320]

shouldn't be allowed to be saying what he's saying.

He shouldnt be allowed to be breathing.

[Argyll]

This could only happen in Britain!
Thank you Tony Blair and New Labourfor screwing the values of my homeland,by allowing this peice of **** to spout his religious bile with impunity,but prosecute and convict the Caucasian for berating and showing Anti Muslim sentiment.

Personally I'd chop this motherfcukers head of and video it,and let the tossers see how it feels..........Britain should lose the "Great" part as there's nothing Great about it anymore

[usa320]

Had he pulled that **** here in the US of A he would have either been locked up for a very long time, or killed in a raid/lynch mob.

[Pégase]

freedom of speech has its limits

[sierraone]

Here is that piece of ****..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2002/08/14/nmula14.jpeg

[usa320]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2002/08/14/nmula14.jpeg

If i ever visit the UK ill remember to bring my steel toe boots, so when i stuff my foot up his ass it will hurt even more.

[talib_killa34]

Look at the kind of people we're dealing here with, Folks....


I trust no muslim




I second that! :)


Really. I know somewhere, some muslims are doing feats of goodwill and charity SOMEPLACE in the world right now. The trouble is, people tell me where?

I want to be friends with the Muslim next door to me. To the guy in my neighborhood.

But Lord help me! When a Muslim is mandated to think of any non-Muslim as someone who is just there to either be killed or converted.....what the hell choice do I have in order to defend myself and my family?

Come with it. But don't try to force me to do ANYTHING!

Freedom of Religion pal. Not on my watch.... ;)

[seruriermarshal]

Here is that piece of ****..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2002/08/14/nmula14.jpeg

I'll behead him !

[sierraone]

Here is that piece of ****..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2002/08/14/nmula14.jpeg

I'll behead him !

Funnily enough, I wouldn't be able to behead anyone, unlike them. But sure I could put a 7.62 between his eyes at 600m easy.

[seruriermarshal]

Here is that piece of ****..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2002/08/14/nmula14.jpeg

I'll behead him !

Funnily enough, I wouldn't be able to behead anyone, unlike them. But sure I could put a 7.62 between his eyes at 600m easy.

Yeah , And perhaps Al-Jazeera is glad take back a video .

[sierraone]

What is it with the muslim dating ad down there??
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[talib_killa34]

Dang!


Never noticed that! ;)

[StarvingStudent47]

What is it with the muslim dating ad down there??
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What on earth are you talking about? There's no Muslim dating ad at the bottom of my screen.

[sierraone]

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It is at the top as well!

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

This guy wouldn't last a day here in the US if he said that shat.

Why are there so many muslim extremists in the UK?
Having a keen interest on American political and religious loons I would say that he could get away with making such statements in the US though I imagine that if he said stuff like this just after 9/11 he would be a dead man walking.

[StarvingStudent47]

This guy wouldn't last a day here in the US if he said that shat.

Why are there so many muslim extremists in the UK?
Having a keen interest on American political and religious loons I would say that he could get away with making such statements in the US though I imagine that if he said stuff like this just after 9/11 he would be a dead man walking.

We've been there, done that. "The Blind Sheikh." He was arrested and jailed if I remember correctly, but not until he helped incite the first WTC attack (the truck bomb).

[Gringo]

this makes me soooo angry! what ever happened to old fashion british justice! :(

Yes. That would be good, A 'Beefeater' explained the good ol' British Justice at the tower of London to me last week.

Behead them, show the head to the crowd, then place it on a spike and put that spike on tower bridge.

I also learned Ex-RSMs make the most natural stand-up comedians, they have 20 years experiance.


Now if you excuse me. I'm going to go hunting.

[M203]

Maybe not the correct thread for this question but there is one thing I cant understand.

When the wheelchair man (hamas dude) was blown up by the israelis the palestininans said it was the will of allah, when other muslims are killed by americans and brits etc it is the will of allah.
Then I just dont get it it, why take out revenge for it cause after all it was the will of allah. If you take revenge for those deaths, doesnt that make you disagree with allah.

Do you understand what i mean?

Have a nice day

And by the way, because of TAQIJA I have strong problems with accepting condoleances from muslims when it comes to the tragedy in Russia.

[sierraone]

What is Taqija then?

I fear it is not going to be long at all before we have serious trouble in Europe. Muslims are hell-bent in influencing Europe by taking advantage of our liberal attitudes toward 'multi-culturalism' and asylum/immigration. They form tehn communities and demand observation of their laws, customs and culture. France pathetic attempt at banning the muslim headress does not address the issue although it is a step in the right direction.

I remember seeing a banner held at a muslim rally in England I think, where it said 'Islam will take over the world'. How is it going to do that? Not by war of course. Is it by convincing people that that is the only way to happiness, prosperity and justice? I don't think so.
Well then? Our liberal attitudes, our legalistic maze, our departure from 'old-fashioned' family values, low patriotism and low birth rate among the natives of European countries.

[Knutsen]

As someone said, freedom of speech has some limits.
That's apology of terrorism and according to the law ( at least in spain) that's an offence and he should face deportation.

P.S. one thing is this terrorist scumbag and other thing is the whole muslim population so please don't generalise.