CIA SAD

[Anonymous]

What's this unit all about? What kind of roles do they play worldwide? Gimme the run down :)

[hood]

The other guys here can probably offer more info, but the guy in the first picture was a guy who went by the name David, and was at the Mazar E Sharif uprising in afghanistan... he's featured rather prominently by the cnn new reporters that were there. He and Mike Span (who was killed there) were the 2 CIA guys who were interrogating each of the foreign taliban soldiers to try and get information out of them, including the american john walker.

[Anonymous]

Used to be called SAS, but I think it has been renamed SAD due to the fact there is a little outfit that the Brits have called the SAS. Ever hear of them? LOL!

http://www.specialoperations.com/Domestic/CIA/SAS/Default.html

[Anonymous]

These guys are basically Agency operators. Most are former or sheepdipped SF, CAG, DEVGRU, SEALs, TORN VICTOR etc. They carry out paramilitary ops for the Agency although many have been attached to coalition units in AFG for humint gathering purposes- for instance a pair have been rotated through the deployments of the Australian SASR SFTG.

As Hood said, two SAD operators were at Mazar- noise is that their inept interrogation profile was partly the reason that the AQT rebelled. Dont want to dis a dead operator so will leave the conjecture right there but dropping two Americans in amongst several hundred poorly restrained and searched violently anti US EPWs may not have been the smartest idea...

[Anonymous]

TV CHOPS? Seems that you know more than you should be talking about! Dropping names is sometimes very helpfull to the bad guys.

[Anonymous]

Sorry but what the heck is TORN VICTOR?

[Anonymous]

Dave i dont want to come off as an asshole but its something thats best not discussed on the net. You may do some reading in older books about Spec Ops and find something about it. Try watching the movie "The Package" It makes reference to it by another name.

[Anonymous]

Dave, Read "Killing Pablo" By Mark Bowden. He talks of Centra Spike, pretty much the same unit and or mission of Torn Victor.

[Anonymous]

Fair enough call ShooterB. Slipped a tad there. I'm sure there are open source on the unit in question but agreed not generally a good idea to draw attention to them and a couple of the other high speed crews out there.

Regards

Chops

[Anonymous]

The latter half of Chops post should be removed.

[Anonymous]

You folks have a serious OPSEC problem here you need to self-police.

If not, be prepared for some outside assistance.

Out.

[hood]

First off, please don't use "Guest". You don't have to register, but put some kind of consistent name in there so we can follow you from post to post. Secondly, since when does some random guy on the net know some super secret stuff that would violate OPSEC? Anyone who thinks we know something of that nature is just being high on themselves. I SERIOUSLY doubt real CIA or intelligence people are posting classified stuff on this website. Discussing knowledge that can be found in any book or on the CIA's own public website is HARDLY violating OPSEC.

[Anonymous]

Check my other post under the AC130 storm in a teacup. 'Guest', bring it on Mr MIB- the stuff is out there open source.

Hey I'm like so pleased I'm a "serious OPSEC problem". Mum always said I'd grow up to a pain to someone else :D !!

God this **** disappoints.

Chops :roll:

[StrikeCentury]

i could only find one, which features 2 CIA SOG operatives

http://www.americanspecialops.com/images/cia/sad-afghanistan.jpgdoes anyone have any more pics of CIA SAD/SOG operatives

[BLUE THOR]

why are they SAD?

Jokes aside, as hilarious as that was, due to the nature of their business being very secretive I doubt theres alot of pictures of them about the place.

this was covered in a thread from back in 2002 - found via Google search.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?21-CIA-SAD

[StrikeCentury]

174300174301 these might be SAD?

[wwjs]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?209644-Foreign-counterparts-to-CIA-SAD this guy has SAD fetish

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

That's one suspension.

Anyone else?

[BLUE THOR]

174300174301 these might be SAD?

they might be contractors as well, or some other outfit. bit difficult to be sure mate, no names,dates or other info. The photos show they have been to Bamiyan at one point, but no BA, no ID, no uniform, and using AK - mate they could be any one of thousands of white blokes who have been to Afghanistan outside of the conventional military forces... If you want to say they are SAD go for it, but they could be anyone. A safe bet would be to say they are contractors.

[ubermensche]

That's one suspension.

Anyone else?

oh me! me! me!

[Hisroyalhighness]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?114762-United-States-SOF-pics/page290

Post 4350, ( I can't embed the image on account of Image shack)

but the caption reads CIA/SAD in Tora Bora.

Not sure if it's accurate or not.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

oh me! me! me!

Done. Take 2 weeks off for being a ****.

[Hisroyalhighness]

Ngati, don't you think you are being a wee bit extreme, I understand the forum has a few chowder-heads, you need to keep the peace and all that, but are suspensions necessary? Not criticizing you boss, just curious.

Ontopic:
174303
SAD Officers.

These site has a few photos of SAD UNITS
http://www.americanspecialops.com/operations/sof-afghanistan/task-force-dagger.php

[DasVivo]

IIRC the late Mike Spann(sp?) was a SAD Operative who died during the uprising at Khalaijangi(Sp?), argueably thats the closest I can think of with someone from the SAD being both filmed and positively ID'd as such...
Though its important to note that many others who arrived later on during the battle were iirc SBS and such, and there was only one other SAD operative present (or ID'd as such) present so not sure how much footage one would get
Computer is being stupid though I cannot confirm anything or even remember spelling so apologies in advance

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Ngati, don't you think you are being a wee bit extreme, I understand the forum has a few chowder-heads, you need to keep the peace and all that, but are suspensions necessary? Not criticizing you boss, just curious.

Ubermensche had already posted an off topic comment in a related thread that I had deleted with no infraction.

After a general warning to all he decided to do it again here. Hence the suspension. wwjs got done for the same thing.

As stated, this isn't OT&H. The OP asked a serious question in a respectful way, no need to go full or even semi retard on him.

Keep in mind that this is a community and there are plenty of others here who aren't interested in wading through retard spam on a decent thread.

[hogdriver]

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9251/288g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/288g.jpg/)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9825/ciatn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/ciatn.jpg/)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6378/cia2g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/cia2g.jpg/)

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1221/cia3y.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/cia3y.jpg/)

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8131/cia1n.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/cia1n.jpg/)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7640/ahzqb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/ahzqb.jpg/)

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3861/cia5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/cia5.jpg/)

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1597/zdel04.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/zdel04.jpg/)

[Dave76]

i could only find one, which features 2 CIA SOG operatives

http://www.americanspecialops.com/images/cia/sad-afghanistan.jpgdoes anyone have any more pics of CIA SAD/SOG operatives
The one on the left is Dave Tyson, a SAD operative, the one on the right is either a UKSF-bloke (SBS) or a SF-soldier from 5th SFG. The picture was taken during the uprising of Taliban prisoners at the Qala-i-Jangi fort in 2001.


http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9251/288g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/288g.jpg/)

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1221/cia3y.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/cia3y.jpg/)


1st one is Tyson again, 2nd one is Johnny Micheal Spann.

[CreepingDeath]

R.I.P. Michael Spann.

[Jscrilla21]

174334174335

[Stealthmode4]

Can read public CIA operatives killed in the Book of Honor. OPSEC isnt an issue when more than half CIA personnel killed have been "written" in the book. Something like 30+ remain (and will remain) secret.

[BafuD]

Can read public CIA operatives killed in the Book of Honor. OPSEC isnt an issue when more than half CIA personnel killed have been "written" in the book. Something like 30+ remain (and will remain) secret.

Holy ****.

[Stealthmode4]

Holy ****.


Wikipedia:
There were 79 stars in 2002, 83 in 2004, 90 in 2009, and 102 in 2010. 62 of the 102 entries in the book contain names, while the other employees are represented only by a gold star followed by a blank space.

[Shadowstorm]

Wikipedia:
There were 79 stars in 2002, 83 in 2004, 90 in 2009, and 102 in 2010. 62 of the 102 entries in the book contain names, while the other employees are represented only by a gold star followed by a blank space.
I think he meant holy sh*t that you open up a thread that is a decade old!

[Stealthmode4]

I think he meant holy sh*t that you open up a thread that is a decade old!

It was just referenced on a thread on the main page. Another member pulled it up in another thread, i just re-read and responded here.

[StrikeCentury]

thanks for the pics guys

[StrikeCentury]

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9251/288g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/288g.jpg/)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9825/ciatn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/ciatn.jpg/)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6378/cia2g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/cia2g.jpg/)

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1221/cia3y.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/cia3y.jpg/)

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8131/cia1n.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/cia1n.jpg/)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7640/ahzqb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/ahzqb.jpg/)

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3861/cia5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/cia5.jpg/)

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1597/zdel04.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/zdel04.jpg/)


are you sure these guys our SAD?

[Marsch]

I think they're SAD.

http://i.imgur.com/QSKO3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1qrPk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gie0d.jpg

[necrofear]

it is nearly impossible for one of us to know if they are really SAD or not... part of their job is not letting anyone know who they are (i think they are doing a good job at it)

but anyways good to see the great effort everyone is doing with this thread

[wwjs]

it is nearly impossible for one of us to know if they are really SAD or not... part of their job is not letting anyone know who they are (i think they are doing a good job at it)

but anyways good to see the great effort everyone is doing with this thread
Exactly​............

[twoniner]

The eighth and final photo in hogdriver's series appears to have been taken in the Philippines. The vehicles, their MV registration stickers on the windshields, the red text on the government license plates and the personnel in the background all support that. But still doesn't make the operators in the foreground SAD. Thanks for sharing the pics!

[terrdeac]

I don't know if these warriors were actually assigned to SAD/SOG since they've been officially identified as civilian contractors, but they are each represented by a star on the Memorial Wall in Langley. RIP.

"Chief" - Master Sergeant William F. Carlson, U.S. Army (Ret.) - 75th Ranger Regiment, Special Forces, 1st SFOD-D
http://tinyurl.com/d7fwfd7


"Super Jew" - Sergeant Major Lawrence N. Freedman, U.S. Army (Ret.) - Special Forces, 1st SFOD-D
http://tinyurl.com/cmvcwwp

Christopher Glenn Mueller, Navy SEAL
http://tinyurl.com/6vxpnxh

Helge Boes, Harvard Law School '97
http://tinyurl.com/bqjv7sc

[Rob1bureau]

179543
↑ Gary Berntsen, chief of Jawbreaker Team in November-December 2001

179548179549 179544 179550
↑ Billy, who even at 72 doesn't think about retirement

179545
↑ CIA officer negociating with Afghan warlords

179546
↑ the first team to venture in the Tora Bora mountains. A Delta soldier, an Air Force CCT, a CIA paramilitary officer and a CIA contractor.

179547
↑ British SBS (left and right) and CIA officer (middle)

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9124/sad1.th.png (http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9124/sad1.png)
↑ no details. Apparently a mix of CIA officers and Delta operators, circa 2002.

[James]

I don't know if these warriors were actually assigned to SAD/SOG since they've been officially identified as civilian contractors, but they are each represented by a star on the Memorial Wall in Langley. RIP.

The Agency employs quite a few people as contractors.

[Eagle9294]

The Agency employs quite a few people as contractors.

That way they can pay them a better income and work around any specific qualifications they might lack.

[Eagle9294]

Bill Waugh a amazing man.

[gresh]

Billy, who even at 72 doesn't think about retirement

Yowza. That's friggin' old to be in SAD. Don't they have age requirements, or is the guy so badass that he's an exception? Is there some kind of angle to that, like maybe gaining more respect from elders? I know lots of SF/CIA and all that grow beards for that reason.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

or is the guy so badass that he's an exception.

That.

Google him.

[Eagle9294]

That.

Google him.

I wonder if he is human.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

I wonder if you're retarded.

[Eagle9294]

I wonder if you're retarded.

My remark was made out of respect for Bill.

[shermbodius]

That.

Google him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Waugh


Yes, that bad ass.

[Albatross]

I wonder if you're retarded.

back in your hole ginger, your soul awaits.

[gresh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Waugh


Yes, that bad ass.
I'm reading about all the surveillance he did on Bin Laden in Sudan. Never knew any of this stuff. Sucks the CIA didn't whack him back then. This guys got one hell of a story.

[shermbodius]

I couldn't believe he was left for dead...

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

My remark was made out of respect for Bill.

You respect a man by publically wondering if he is human?

That is retarded.

[hardmack]

You respect a man by publically wondering if he is human?

That is retarded.

Its a turn of phrase obviously you are not familiar with since you are throwing such a fit about it.

[James]

Yowza. That's friggin' old to be in SAD. Don't they have age requirements, or is the guy so badass that he's an exception? Is there some kind of angle to that, like maybe gaining more respect from elders? I know lots of SF/CIA and all that grow beards for that reason.

I met more than one MACV/SOG veteran who was still active in Afghanistan, most recently in late 2010. Keep in mind that most of these guys work in advisory and training roles and aren't kicking down doors themselves.


I'm reading about all the surveillance he did on Bin Laden in Sudan. Never knew any of this stuff. Sucks the CIA didn't whack him back then. This guys got one hell of a story.

Why would we have targeted him back then?


That way they can pay them a better income and work around any specific qualifications they might lack.

Yeah, mmkay.

[gresh]

I met more than one MACV/SOG veteran who was still active in Afghanistan, most recently in late 2010. Keep in mind that most of these guys work in advisory and training roles and aren't kicking down doors themselves.

Why would we have targeted him back then?

I just meant knowing what we know now. From the small excerpts I read, it said Bill came up with his own action plans to assassinate him. It also said some stuff about him being a major terrorism financier and the CIA knowing about it then. I can see how it must have been a totally different political climate than today, though.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Its a turn of phrase obviously you are not familiar with since you are throwing such a fit about it.

I can see you're upset. That is extremely unfortunate.

[Eagle9294]

You respect a man by publically wondering if he is human?

That is retarded.

Yes. "giggles"

[James]

I just meant knowing what we know now. From the small excerpts I read, it said Bill came up with his own action plans to assassinate him. It also said some stuff about him being a major terrorism financier and the CIA knowing about it then. I can see how it must have been a totally different political climate than today, though.

As far as I know the first time Bin Laden/AQ took action against the U.S. was the possible inclusion of militant Islamic terrorists in Somalia in 1993. My recollection of the book was that Waugh was writing more about "If only we'd had 20/20 hindsight".

FWIW, the CIA is pretty much just like every other Federal Government Agency. They muddle along as best they can and try not to f*ck up too badly.