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budanski
09-10-2004, 08:05 PM
Bush Has Already Won the 2004 Contest, Ralph Nader Declares

NNS (http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/benson091004.html)

WASHINGTON -- Democrat John Kerry has already lost the 2004 presidential race and the country should get ready for another four years of Republican George W. Bush's leadership, Ralph Nader said Thursday.

"Bush is mocking him, he's taunting him," Nader said. "There's no strategy by the Democrats."

Nader, battling to get on ballots as an independent presidential candidate, predicted Bush would win by a margin so large that his own candidacy would not be seen as a factor in the outcome. Democratic leaders blamed Nader for former Vice President Al Gore's loss to Bush in 2000.

"The telltale sign" of looming defeat is the Democrats' failure to register 9 million black voters, Nader told reporters.

"They're going to lose it because John Kerry has surrounded himself with corporate consultants who represent some of the seediest and most craven companies and industries, and they are not letting him think for himself," said Nader, whose fight against corporate influence over government and politics is his own rationale for running.

Kerry "blew it," Nader said, by neglecting the Democratic Party's historic roots.

"The biggest winning strategy for the Kerry campaign is the living wage. One of every three workers doesn't make a living wage. That is what the Democratic party used to stand for."

With just under eight weeks remaining before Election Day, Nader said Kerry and his running mate, Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., have "lost the clarity of being an alternative to Bush and Cheney, even though this is the most vulnerable administration in many years."

The Kerry campaign did not respond to requests for comment. Political analysts, however, believe the contest is far from over.

"My guess is that this is Ralph Nader seeking revenge against Democrats for their attacks on him and keeping him off the ballot in a number of states," said Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist.

"It's also Nader's attempt to get more Kerry people to cast protest votes for him," Sabato said, calling this "a self-serving analysis." If Nader convinces Kerry supporters that their candidate can't win, "they can vote for Nader without guilt."

Right now, things look grim for Kerry, Sabato acknowledged. "But in early August," he added, "most analysts thought Bush was done for. So we've got 54 days to go and a lot could happen and probably will. This is a wild year. I wouldn't bet a nickel on the election results right now."

But Kerry and the Democrats have indeed failed to make a strong effort to register black voters, said Ron Walters, a black political activist and University of Maryland political scientist.

"Nader is absolutely right about this," Walters said. "It's one of those subterranean stories nobody wants to talk about because Kerry could lose."

While Democrats have raised enormous amounts of money in this campaign, Walters said, funds are only "trickling in" to traditional black voter registration groups.

The independent political organizations known as 527s raised $150 million, he said, "but they have not used it very effectively -- they have tried to substitute people with Palm Pilots and Blackberries for the success we had over the years."

Walters said the problem was a hot topic of behind-the-scenes discussion Thursday at a Congressional Black Caucus Town Hall Meeting, part of a three-day legislative conference that he said drew 35,000 attendees.

Overall, however, Thomas Mann, an analyst at the Brookings Institution, called Nader's comments "utterly foolish." He suggested that Nader "team up with Sen. Zell Miller," the Georgia Democrat who delivered the strongest attack on Kerry at the Republican National Convention.

"The election remains intensely competitive with Kerry benefitting from the war in Iraq and the economy, and Bush, thus far, the better campaign. It's too close to call," Mann said.

Mann nonetheless said that he "leans toward" a Kerry victory.

Georgetown University political scientist Stephen Wayne took issue with Nader's remarks.
"I don't think the election has been decided yet," Wayne said in a telephone interview, although he believes Bush holds the advantage at the moment. "Kerry does have his work cut out for him and I wouldn't bet a lot of money on him, but I don't think he'll lose big, if he loses."

Sept. 10, 2004

scm77
09-10-2004, 08:24 PM
:D

StarvingStudent47
09-10-2004, 09:04 PM
...and so long as Nader remains in the race, it will remain that way.

Without Nader, this would be absolutely neck-and-neck. But he is consistently draining about 3% away from Kerry, which will make all the difference (just like it did in 2000).

Wouldn't it be really ironic, considering his earlier career, if Nader suddenly died in a car crash? No threat there, just sayin' ;)

MEGR
09-10-2004, 09:07 PM
Kerry has fumbled his own campaign. Focusing on 'nam, and Bush's guard records are gonna kill him in the long run. Also, if these documents given to CBS are proven false, then I'd say Kerry has a very small chance of winning.

scm77
09-10-2004, 09:11 PM
I think the documents will turn out to be faked. Of course CBS will play dumb and claim they had no idea :roll:.

Romulus
09-10-2004, 09:13 PM
...and so long as Nader remains in the race, it will remain that way.

Without Nader, this would be absolutely neck-and-neck. But he is consistently draining about 3% away from Kerry, which will make all the difference (just like it did in 2000).

Wouldn't it be really ironic, considering his earlier career, if Nader suddenly died in a car crash? No threat there, just sayin' ;)


So those votes "Belong" to John Kerry?

Believe it or not some people actually vote for who they think is the best man for the job and they do vote third party.

No votes "Belong" to anyone until they get that vote.

Sir Zach of R.
09-10-2004, 09:24 PM
If Neil Boritz ran I'd vote for him. :D Ofcourse, I'm only 16.

MEGR
09-10-2004, 09:57 PM
I'm listening to him as I am typing this!

Dennis G
09-10-2004, 09:59 PM
From Nader's mouth to God's ear...