Romanian Armed Forces

[Old Hickory]

Tried to caption them the best I could.
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/afganistan1.jpg

26th Inf Bn "Red Scorpions" Afghanistan
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/afganistan19.jpg

Romanian made "TAB" armored vehicles
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/74gl.jpg

AIMS-74 with 40mm Grenade Launcher
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/afghan1.jpg

AIMS-74
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/afghanpk.jpg

PKM
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/soldat.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/004.jpg

PSL 7.62x54R
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/navy%20psl.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/specforces.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/cercet.jpg

Special Forces
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/set01.jpg

Mini Uzi's
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/exercitiidemonstrati8%20(2).jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/btr-80_romania_09.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/corespondentiderazbo3.jpg

Correspondent Training
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/navy.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/romymig21.jpg

Mig-21

[b.scheller]

awesome photos...keep'em coming

[rawkitheart]

my ex was romanian -- and it'd be too soon if i ever had to hear or see a damned thing about them ever again.

[Onyks]

Great photos, I love the Grenade Launchers on those AIMS-74s. Is it an intergrated bottom Foregrip that has a GL built in? It looks alot better than usual AKs with GL attachments.

[scrybe]

How is it decided which person in a unit carries the SVD (or varient, I can't tell)? Does it go by accuracy in range testing?

[REMOV]

http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/74gl.jpg

AIMS-74 with 40mm Grenade Launcher
http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/cercet.jpgDo you have a better pictures of that underbarrel grenade launcher, also with the closer look at the mounting?

[FozzieBear]

nice choice of desert camo :P

[droopy]

Umm the PR of romanaians suck.
Ugly pictures.
And i say this as a romanian citizen :(

[droopy]

How is it decided which person in a unit carries the SVD (or varient, I can't tell)? Does it go by accuracy in range testing?
When my father served afther the firing range and about 60 bullets fired the ones with high accuracy are given the choice of using and training to use the SVD(PSL actualy) at least that`s how it was in the `70s in the romanian army.He had the choice but refused as to get combat medical training a choice i hope i will never have.

To the number of rounds fired in a year of military service wich is not voluntary :bash: you get to fire maybe 3 mags so when you finish the military you hardly know on wich side of the gun the bullets come out :( :lol: this is the romanian army **** i don`t know what are we doing in NATO :cantbeli:

[Frost]

Great pictures!!!!

These guys look pretty good. Kevlar helmets and stuff like that. Very nice. It looks as if these guys are upgrading their military, or am I wrong?

Are they switching to DPM completely?

[Old Hickory]

These are the only other pics of the 40mm grenade launcher I have.
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/74wgl.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/47wgl.jpg


http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/femalesoldier.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/romanian%20desert%20dot.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/underfolder2.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/amphibious.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/krink2.jpg

AIMR Carbine, a Romanian made "Krinkov", taken during the December Revolution.
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/krink.jpg

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Umm the PR of romanaians suck.
Ugly pictures.
And i say this as a romanian citizen :(

ah, stop complaining :bash: ;)
Pics are cool

[droopy]

Umm the PR of romanaians suck.
Ugly pictures.
And i say this as a romanian citizen :(

ah, stop complaining :bash: ;)
Pics are cool
Nooooo... the pcis are the same old junk.
It`s like we have the best military in the world and no one can find what our capabilities are.
Face it guys romanian military PR sucks.

[Old Hickory]

To be fair a lot of the photos were not taken by the Ministry of Defense. They are also compressed so they are not too large.
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/guard.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/folding545.jpg

This pic was taken by the US Marines. PR is not everything.
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/sailor.jpg

[droopy]

Ok so are some of them from a private collection but please mention that some of them were before 1989 or else people will think that this
http://hometown.aol.com/jetpacktrooper/images/guard.jpg
is the state of the romanian army rofl

Oh and PR is everyting ;)

[pretorian669]

Any pictures of romanian soldiers using/testing the israeli tavor rifle?

[IDFM203]

Are those Israeli helmets I see in SOME of those pics? (It looks like it but I am not 100 percent sure)

Shalom :D

[Old Hickory]

Any pictures of romanian soldiers using/testing the israeli tavor rifle?

Im not sure they are even going with the Tavor in the future. A couple months ago a buddy of mine sent me a very poor quality screen capture from the Romanian news. They were displaying new weapons in 5.56mm made by Romarm State Aresenal. They looked similar to the Polish Tantal.

http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/mli-84.jpg
Is this cannon Israeli made? [/quote]

[_Samez_]

Is this cannon Israeli made?

no, it is probably BMP-1M with polish turret E8.

links (only in polish):
http://www.wzm.pl/php/puma_e8.php

pic:
http://www.serwis-militarny.net/link.php?k=gp&plik=bwp1m(3).jpg

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Is this cannon Israeli made?

no, it is probably BMP-1M with polish turret E8.

E8 turret is German (Rheinmetall), not Polish, and BMP-1 Puma E8 is just a technology demonstrator, it wasn't fielded or exported.
And this turret is an Israeli RCWS.

[_Samez_]

aha, ok :)

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

btw. newest Polish BMP upgrade (which probably will be introduced in service, at last) uses similar RCWS turret...

[REMOV]

http://hometown.aol.com/cugirsa/images/mli-84.jpg
Is this cannon Israeli made? The 25mm Oerlikon KBA? I don't think so ;)

But the turret itself - OWS-25 - is Israeli made, Rafael.


OWS-25

http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows1.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows2.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows3.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows4.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows5.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows6.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows7.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows8.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows9.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows10.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows11.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows12.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows13.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows14.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows15.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows16.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows17.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows18.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows19.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/ows/ows20.jpg


Armament :

Main: Oerlikon KBA Cannon: 25 mm;
- - Fire rate: 100, 200, 600 rounds/min;
- - Fire unit: 200 rounds;
- - Type of ammunition: APFSDS-T;FAPDS-T;TPDS-T; TP-T; HE-I;
- - Possibility to select fire rate 1, 3, 10 rounds/min;
- - High speed of the ammunition at the muzzle brake: 1.100 ¸ 1.335 m/s.

Anti-tank missile launcher
- - Fire unit: 2 SPIKE missiles;
- - Operation range: 4.000 m.

Secondary weapons: 7,62 mm calibre;
- - Fire unit: 250 rounds;

Crew: One

Ammunition feed for main and coax: from inside the vehicle;

Fire accuracy: 1,5 mrad;

Stabilization: Electrical, dual axis: horizontal and vertical;

Speed direction/height: 45/45 degrees/sec.;

Control :
- - Transverse: electrical nx360°;
- - Vertical: electric, vertical fire range -11° to +60°;
- - In the event of a failure, the weapons and turret can be operated manually.

Optics:
- - Periscopic sight, with front window wiper & de-icer;
- - Day: X1 window with aiming circle, X8 sight with ballistic reticule;
- - Night: X7.5 passive night elbow, (generation 2+) (thermal imaging optional);
- - Observation periscopes, unity power, 4 periscopes PFI 240, on-command de-icing;

Weight: 1100 Kg (without gunner);

Nominal aperture in vehicle deck: 1.050 mm;

Power Supply: 24 VDC.

...and to my Polish compatriots who as usual are making digressions from digressions and destroying other threads that IFV is the Romanian MLI-84M (http://www.mfaromania.ro/mli/mli1.swf) :|

http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli1.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli2.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli3.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli4.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli5.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli6.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli7.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli8.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli9.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli10.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli11.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli12.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli13.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli14.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli15.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli16.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli17.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli18.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli19.jpg
http://www.mfaromania.ro/photo/mli/mli20.jpg

Low-slung Arsenul Armatei MLI-84M (BMP-1 in Rumanian) offers a clean deck for Rafael's OWS-25R turret armed with an Oerlikon Contraves 25 mm KBA in standard form, but can receive a pair of anti-tank as well. Power - 400horses - are provided by a Perkins CV8T.

[REMOV]

And this turret is an Israeli RCWS.Are you sure?

[pretorian669]

Any pictures of romanian soldiers using/testing the israeli tavor rifle?

Im not sure they are even going with the Tavor in the future. A couple months ago a buddy of mine sent me a very poor quality screen capture from the Romanian news. They were displaying new weapons in 5.56mm made by Romarm State Aresenal. They looked similar to the Polish Tantal.

[/quote]

Well...in the end Croatia did not adopt it either but there are still photos of Croatian soldiers testing the tavor.

[Javehn]

What is the name of underbarrel launcher ? Is it Romanian ?

[Javehn]

Is this cannon Israeli made?

no, it is probably BMP-1M with polish turret E8.

links (only in polish):
http://www.wzm.pl/php/puma_e8.php

pic:
http://www.serwis-militarny.net/link.php?k=gp&plik=bwp1m(3).jpg

If I am not mistaken , it's called Puma (BWP with E8 Rheinmethal , not Polish) , and it doesn't look like that at all .

REMOV has all the answers as always .

[REMOV]

If I am not mistaken , it's called Puma (BWP with E8 Rheinmethal, not Polish) , and it doesn't look like that at all .Not exactly, the Puma (EN Coguar) is the name of upgrade program of the BWP-1, not the specific construction with turret A or B. But, AFAIR the Israeli turret RCWS-30 (with Mk 44 ATK autocannon) is chosen to the military test of Puma and not the Rheinmetall E8, so... who knows. If everything goes well Poland will buy ca.120-150 turrets for the Puma's.

BTW - I've got a short promotional movie of the new Rafael RCWS-30 turret, take a look: http://www.militech.sownet.gliwice.pl/inne/_RCWS30.mpg

[REMOV]

Well...in the end Croatia did not adopt it either but there are still photos of Croatian soldiers testing the tavor.Only one ;)

[Javehn]

REMOV , you would happend to know what is the underbarrel grenade launcher on the pictures ?

[IDFM203]

Well...in the end Croatia did not adopt it either but there are still photos of Croatian soldiers testing the tavor.Only one ;)Ehem ;)

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Crotale/Tavor.jpg
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Crotale/tavor2.jpg
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Crotale/tavor3.jpg

hmm I count three ;) :D

Shalom :D

[REMOV]

REMOV , you would happend to know what is the underbarrel grenade launcher on the pictures ?Sure, Romanian-made Aruncătorul de grenade A.G.-40 or just AG-40 ;)

http://studenti.actrus.ro/stiinta/tehnica/ag40/ag40.jpg
http://studenti.actrus.ro/stiinta/tehnica/ag40/2ag40.jpg
http://studenti.actrus.ro/stiinta/tehnica/ag40/ag40lov.jpg

Max Range - 450 m
Firing Rate - 6 shots/min
Length - 380 mm
Weight - 1,3 kg
Round Type - HE
Round Weight - 275 g
Grenade Weight - 210 g
Propelling Charge Weight - 65 g nitrocelulose
Exploding Charge Weight - 35 g TNT
Caliber - 40 mm
Kill Zone Radius -10 m

[REMOV]

hmm I count three ;)Wow! Thanks a lot, IDFM203, I saw only the first one.

[IDFM203]

hmm I count three ;)Wow! Thanks a lot, IDFM203, I saw only the first one.Well no need to thank me for I got them from this forum and they were posted by the member "Hrvoje" in this thread ( http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=373009&highlight=tavor+croatia&sid=f7e0ea085e43f56635ce6974bb693fd7#373009 )

I just wanted to be the first to be able to successfully correct one of our esteemed members here ;)

Anyways glad you liked those pics :D

Shalom :D

[REMOV]

Well no need to thank me for I got them from this forum and they were posted by the member "Hrvoje"Well... what can I say, I missed it, thats all ;)
I just wanted to be the first to be able to successfully correct one of our esteemed members here ;)Hahahha... so, you've succeeded, anyway thanks again ;)

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

And this turret is an Israeli RCWS.Are you sure?

Well RCWS is a abbreviation of RC OWS (at least last nTW says so), so imho both names (RCWS-25 and OWS-25) are equal.

[tomcat1974]

ROWS 25 ... also known as Rafael Overhead Weapon Station. The missiles block is interchangable . It can use Modernised Maliutka-2(I think Laser guided) or the Spike's . Both are in use with Romanian Army. Romanian army will buy some 125 of those.
BTW. MLI84 - means Masina de Lupta a Infanteriei Model 19-84.