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Seraphim
08-27-2003, 04:34 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030827/ap_on_re_as/koreas_nuclear&cid=516&ncid=716

Sounds a little bit like Germany in WW2...


By AUDRA ANG, Associated Press Writer

BEIJING - The United States, North Korea (news - web sites) and four other nations began an extraordinary meeting Wednesday, working to resolve a dispute over the North's nuclear program even as Pyongyang repeated its demand for a nonaggression treaty from Washington.


Around a vast hexagonal table behind the high brick walls of the state guest house of China, the host country and the North's only remaining major ally, diplomats from all six nations shook hands and got down to business.


"I am very happy the six countries are all here," Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Wang Yi told the assembled diplomats before the meeting was closed to reporters.


Russia, Japan and South Korea (news - web sites) are also participating. All have a direct stake in both the region in general and the North's nuclear program in particular. China, the host country, called for a "calm and patient attitude" for the meetings.


The United States says North Korea must shut down its nuclear program immediately, while Pyongyang demands guarantees of security and economic aid. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and North Korean Deputy Foreign Minister Kim Yong Il were among those shaking hands before the talks began, and then their delegations were seated next to each other for the meeting.


As the talks began, North Korea repeated its demand for a nonaggression pact from the United States, saying it would not give up its "nuclear deterrent force" for anything less than that.


The United States should "clarify its will to make a switchover in its hostile policy toward the DPRK and conclude a nonaggression treaty with it," Rodong Sinmun, the North's official newspaper, said in a commentary carried by KCNA, the North's official news agency.


U.S. officials say they believe North Korea has one or two nuclear weapons, and experts believe it could produce five to six more in a few months. The North has withdrawn from key international agreements in recent months, including the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.


In October, according to the United States, North Korea acknowledged a secret nuclear program, beginning the standoff and war of words that led to this week's talks. Bush already was wary of North Korea, calling it in a January 2002 speech part of an "axis of evil."


Pyongyang insists Washington must change its "hostile policy" for the talks to produce any results. Otherwise, it said last week, "We will never give up nuclear deterrent force and settle accounts with the aggressors."


Shin Bong-kil, spokesman for the South Korean delegation, said the morning session, which lasted almost five hours, proceeded in a "stable, quiet, smooth way." He said there were "no big deviations" from the expected agenda.


Both Kelly's and Kim's addresses, which talked about the history of the nuclear issue dividing them, lasted about an hour, Shin said.


The discussions are expected to continue until Friday as part of a process experts say may be long-drawn — but is heading in the right direction.


"The talks will lay the foundation for the next talks," said Li Dunqiu, secretary-general of the Chinese Society for the Study of Korean History.


"Mistrust between the two sides cannot be dispelled within a single negotiation. It takes time," Li said in an interview.


The participants' interests go beyond simply wanting to keep the isolated communist North from becoming a nuclear threat. South Korea wants to clear an obstruction from its policy of reconciliation with Pyongyang. Japan seeks progress on the issue of Japanese citizens kidnapped by the North during the Cold War.


China hopes to avoid being dragged into a conflict between its longtime ally, North Korea, and a vital trading partner, the United States. The North, faced with economic collapse, wants security guarantees and more food and humanitarian aid.





"We welcome the multinational talks," said Claire Buchan, a spokeswoman for President Bush (news - web sites). "The president has always believed that this is a multilateral problem that requires a multilateral solution."

Meanwhile, a North Korean soldier fired a single shot at a South Korean guard post, breaking a window pane but causing no injuries, the office of South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said. The North said it was an accident, according to the office.

The North Korean shot hit a South Korean post in the Demilitarized Zone that separates the two Koreas. Soon after, North Korean officials telephoned their Southern counterparts and said it was a misfire resulting from negligence and that that they had no "hostile intentions," the office said.

South Korean soldiers did not return fire.

On July 17, South and North Korean soldiers briefly traded machine-gun fire in the DMZ, a buffer created at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War to keep opposing armies apart.

Decades ago, shooting incidents were commonplace along the DMZ, but they have tapered off in recent years.

Takeda Shingen
08-27-2003, 04:52 AM
They're either buying time or so desperate that they'll do whatever it take to focus all attention on them.

martinexsquaddie
08-27-2003, 03:04 PM
not a particulrly sane leadership to have knives let alone nukes

GazB
08-29-2003, 12:50 AM
"The North, faced with economic collapse, wants security guarantees and more food and humanitarian aid. "

Yes... mad as a spoon.

Who in their right mind would want security, food and humanitarian aid?

It must be a trick... we wont fall for that... I mean as soon as they have a nonagression pact and food and humanitarian aid they can say... "See, our enemies are so dangerous and our security so unexamined that we need nuclear weapons... and then they'll build some.

They must be evil.

Oops, no wait a minute, they probably already have some nukes and are trying to negotiate a non aggression treaty so that they don't have to use them.

budanski
08-29-2003, 01:09 AM
:roll:

Gee, what happened to the last "non aggression" treaty? Oh yeah, they broke that.

I suggest a "Complete Annihilation Treaty"

Seiyuuki
08-29-2003, 02:04 AM
"The North, faced with economic collapse, wants security guarantees and more food and humanitarian aid."

Don't you love rhetorics? The Khemenei did that once when he was in exile...and Carter's envoy believe him...and Carter was gullible enough to be convinced to believe...Hitler did that too..."Give us this piece of land and peace will be assure."

The North been getting more than enough food and humanitarian aids in the past, but the freebies is running low and it is just simply not enough to feed the military.

We can do appeasement and assure the peace and security of North Korea and we can keep feeding them too. Of course they will stop the development of nuclear weapon, just like Germany bringing peace to Europe for eons to come.

GazB
08-29-2003, 08:57 PM
"Hitler did that too..."Give us this piece of land and peace will be assure." "

Where did you get that quote from?

Hitler took back countries that were part of germany in the past, then he started taking countries that were never part of Germany. Nobody cared till their own interests were threatened. Czechoslovakians disappeared and nobody said anything. Austrians disappeared and nobody said anything. When the Polish went the Commonwealth stood up. When the Soviets were attacked, they stood up, and when America was attacked they stood up.

the point is that Hitler was pushing the buttons and being aggressive. He is easy to paint as the bad guy.

Right now it is the US that is being aggressive and bombing and invading. If I was NK or Iran I'd want the bloody bomb too.

Vance
08-29-2003, 09:02 PM
The US would never use nukes unless itself was attacked by a nuke. Like these guys said, they have been getting humanitarian aid for some time. NK is a time bomb....

California Joe
08-29-2003, 09:21 PM
I need to move to France. I'm predictable and boring. *getting the vapors*

Seiyuuki
08-29-2003, 09:27 PM
Can you say GENERALIZATION?...G-E-N-E-R-A-L-I-Z-A-T-I-O-N

Last time I check...NK and Iran hasn't been bomb, yet...and was there ever a nuke dropped on Iraq.

The world would love to see NK and Iran have a nuke or two...at least they finally got the ball to use it on the US without worry about being politically correct, teach those aggressive American Imperialistist bastards a lesson and there won't even be a need to shed a tear!!!

usa320
08-29-2003, 09:59 PM
All this "treaty" is is a desperate effort to blackmail the US and the UN out of money and humanitarian aid, which wont EVER see the mouths and hands of the north korean folks, instead it will pay for some No-dong missiles and some J-7 fighters.

Kim Jong is insane. We should just blow the hell out of him now while his guard is down, this way we wont have to search house by house, cave by cave later.

GazB
08-30-2003, 04:20 AM
"The US would never use nukes unless itself was attacked by a nuke. Like these guys said, they have been getting humanitarian aid for some time. NK is a time bomb...."

The US government contradicts you. During desert storm and the more recent invasion the State department made it clear that any Chem or bio attack on allied forces would result in a nuclear reply. Current plans to build mini nukes for the purposes of destroying deep hardened bunkers also suggest that the US is planning to use nukes first in some situations.

Yes, they were getting aid, but that stopped when they admitted they had a nuclear program. Now of course their nuclear program violated agreements that made the humanitarian and food aid possible, but I doubt if the NKs sitting in the dark with no power or heat because the free oil has stopped flowing. I can see why they'd want nuclear power... a bit more reliable than US gifts of oil.

"Last time I check...NK and Iran hasn't been bomb, yet...and was there ever a nuke dropped on Iraq."

No the US hasn't attacked either country yet. They are applying international pressure to keep sanctions in force to keep each country poor, but they haven't dropped any bombs yet. they have named both countries as "evil" and constantly claimed they support terrorism. Certainly nothing the US hasn't done itself.

"All this "treaty" is is a desperate effort to blackmail the US and the UN out of money and humanitarian aid, which wont EVER see the mouths and hands of the north korean folks, instead it will pay for some No-dong missiles and some J-7 fighters. "

Probably quite true, though nothing is needed to "pay" for No-Dongs... they are NK made. NK is a communist country... all the mines that mine the materials used to make the No Dongs are owned by the NK government. All the workers in the No Dong factory work for the government... they will be paid whether they are working or not. The only "cost" is that any weapon or item used by NK does not earn foreign currency like an exported item would.

Such an attiude is to be expected by a country driven into a corner... what do you expect them to do? Become capitalist? Would America have become communist if the money had run out?