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Apogee
02-26-2003, 09:11 PM
Has anyone heard of a unit (s) called the Virginia Army? Is this refering to CIA SAD or someother outfit? Thanks for the help.
JiJoMacLE45
02-26-2003, 09:15 PM
One of ISA's cover names was the 'Secret Army of Northern Virginia'.
Apogee
02-26-2003, 10:32 PM
Hey thanks for the help JiJo. I was pretty confused when someone mentioned it.
JiJoMacLE45
02-26-2003, 10:43 PM
No problem. Anytime.
Chops
02-27-2003, 01:08 PM
Sorry JiJo this is incorrect but I know how you could make the mistake. Bowden in Killing Pablo mentions it being one of the various cover SCI identities for ISA and I've seen the claim repeated elsewhere. He got it wrong.

It's actually an old nickname for the Company's SOG/SAD- SOG in those days. Refers to the paramilitary capability (Secret Army) and location (Northern Virginia- ie Langley, Virginia). ISA have generally used two word randomly generated phrases rather than titles.

All the best guys

Chops
JiJoMacLE45
02-27-2003, 03:20 PM
:D
Chops
02-27-2003, 06:59 PM
JiJo

ISA, or whichever name they prefer, no longer run under DIA Arlington. They've worked under JSOC at Bragg, Nth Carolina since the late eighties. They were once run by DIA INSCOM at Arlington but after the fraud investigations of the early eighties and even the call to disband ISA back in 1981 after the Vietnam MIA fiasco, they were finally assigned to JSOC which seems GF's natural home.

PS Williamsburg is the location of the Farm, the SOG/SAD training faciility.

Rgds

Chops
JiJoMacLE45
02-27-2003, 08:14 PM
;)
Chops
02-28-2003, 12:05 PM
Hi JiJo

Interesting... I had been told by a former 10th Group operator that ISA was 'behind the fence' at Bragg. Maybe you could let me know a little more, perhaps privately if opsec is a consideration.

rgds

Chops
100%Marine
03-13-2003, 10:58 PM
The Activity is neither located at Camp Peary or Arlington. Camp Peary is the training grounds for CIA Operatives. The Activity and CIA are fierce competitors and would never cross train. As for the DIA tag. During the mid eighties DoD intergrated all humint under one umbrella. To avoid losing their flexiability, the Army placed the Activity under JSOC, and thus was never part of the DIA. At times the ISA has been threaten to disband, particularly by Cap Weinberger, but the ISA was never in jeopardy. Since the military cringes at the need for intel via the CIA, MI will always field the ISA. Lastly, on a special note, Marines have served in the Activity. Also, ISA sends personnel through Special Forces training.
100%Marine
03-13-2003, 11:02 PM
I just realized I meant to say some selected personnel go through special forces training...a very few.