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Seraphim
08-30-2003, 06:06 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030830/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&cid=540&ncid=716


By TAREK AL-ISSAWI, Associated Press Writer

NAJAF, Iraq - Iraqi police have arrested four men in connection with the bombing of Iraq (news - web sites)'s holiest Shiite Muslim shrine, and all four have connections to Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al-Qaida terror network, a senior police official told The Associated Press on Saturday.


The official, who said the death toll in the Friday bombing had risen to 107, said the four arrested men — two Iraqis and two Saudis — were caught shortly after the car bombing on Friday.


The bombing killed one of the most important Shiite clerics in Iraq, Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim, who had been cooperating with the American occupation force.


The police official, who led the initial investigation and interrogation of the captives, said the prisoners told of other plots to kill political and religious leaders and to damage vital installations such as power plants, water supplies and oil pipelines.


The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the bomb was made from the same type of materials used in the Aug. 19 bombing at the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad in which at least 23 people died and the Jordanian Embassy attack on Aug. 7, which killed 19.


The FBI (news - web sites) said the U.N. bomb was constructed from ordnance left over from the regime of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), much of it produced in the former Soviet Union.


The police official said the men arrested after the attack claimed the recent bombings were designed to keep Iraq in a state of chaos so that police and American forces would be unable to focus attention on the country's porous borders, across which suspected foreign fighters are said to be infiltrating.


The four men arrived in Najaf three days before the bombing and were staying with a friend who did not know their intentions, the official said.


Meanwhile Saturday, thousands of angry mourners called for vengeance as they gathered outside the Imam Ali shrine, site of the bombing.


"Our leader al-Hakim is gone! We want the blood of the killers of al-Hakim!" a crowd of 4,000 men chanted while beating their chests.


The bombing was certain to complicate American efforts to pacify an increasingly violent Iraq. A moderate cleric, al-Hakim was seen as a stabilizing force in Iraq. He repeatedly asked the country's Shiite majority to be patient with the United States.


L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. occupation's coordinator for Iraq, was out of the country on vacation and had no plans to return early because of the bombing, his office said Saturday, adding he had been in contact. The U.S.-led coalition is responsible for overall security in Iraq.


While many here had blamed the attack on the Sunni Muslim followers of Saddam Hussein, there has been fighting between Shiites as well.


Najaf, 110 miles southwest of Baghdad, is the headquarters of Iraq's most powerful Shiite rivals, including followers of Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Ishaq al-Fayyad, Ayatollah Ali Hussein al-Sistani and Moqtada al-Sadr. Shiites make up about 60 percent of Iraq's population.


The blast gouged a three-foot-deep crater in the street in front of the mosque, tore apart nearby cars and reduced neighboring shops to a tangled mass of metal, wood and corpses.


"I saw al-Hakim walk out of the shrine after his sermon and moments later, there was a massive explosion. There were many dead bodies," said Abdul Amir Jassem, a merchant who was in the mosque.


Men and women pressed their hands and faces against the doors of the mosque, which was closed after the blast. Mosaic tiles were blown off the gold-domed building, a sacred Shiite shrine where the Imam Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad is buried.





The building, which is visited by tens of thousands of pilgrims each year, appeared only slightly damaged.

warchild1/27scout
08-30-2003, 10:45 AM
is'nt that wierd? is it just me or are the terrorists really screwing up. everytime they blow up the un or a shiite mosque they piss the people off and the people are going to our side. i hate to say this but i almost think our cia would have something to do with this cause it does'nt make sense to me why the terrorists would do this stuff and lose the sympathy of the people. i hope they keep on blowing **** up because it's only helping us.

Seraphim
08-30-2003, 01:44 PM
"We will continue in our dealing with the Americans, but the Americans should now be more aware of the fact that the Iraqis only are capable of preserving the security in the country," al-Ghadban said Saturday in Baghdad.

"They (the Americans) are responsible for the incident because of their failure to provide security in Iraq." He said the group would press the Americans for more powers for Iraqis.


http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?vts=083020030935

Video for this...in it he describes that people are saying that it was all the Americans and the CIA did this.

The Associated Press is reporting that the Najaf bombers are linked to al-Qaida, but angry crowds are reacting against Americans. A van carrying MSNBC News employees was attacked by a mob, but no one was hurt. MSNBC's Bob Arnot reports from Najaf.

NAJAF, Iraq, Aug. 30 — Iraqi police have arrested four men in connection with the bombing of Iraq’s most holy Shiite Muslim shrine, and all four have connections to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida terror network, a senior police official said Saturday. The official said the death toll in the Friday bombing had risen to 107, including one of the most important Shiite clerics in Iraq.

THE OFFICIAL said the four arrested men — two Iraqis and two Saudis — were caught shortly after the car bombing that killed Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim, who had been cooperating with the American occupation force.
A senior U.S. Government official confirmed the four arrests for NBC News. According to the official, there were varying reports about whether or not some of the men arrested were Saudi citizens.
On Saturday, 4,000 mourners chanted for vengeance in Najaf. In Baghdad, about 3,000 Shiites protested at the gates of the U.S.-led coalition headquarters, complaining that the coalition’s failure to provide security led to al-Hakim’s death.
U.S. military helicopters hovered low overhead, but the demonstrators dispersed peacefully after an hour.
The police official, who lead the initial investigation and interrogation of the captives, said the prisoners told of other plots to kill political and religious leaders and to damage vital installations such as electricity generation plants, water supplies and oil pipelines.
Iraqi demonstrators, seen outside the main mosque in Najaf on Saturday, hold up a poster of influential Shiite Muslim leader Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim, who was killed in the massive explosion outside the mosque Friday.
The official, who refused to be named, said the bomb at the Imam Ali shrine — the burial place of the son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad — was made from the same type of materials used in the Aug. 19 bombing at the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad in which at least 23 people died and the Jordanian Embassy attack on Aug. 7. Nineteen people died in that vehicle bombing.
The FBI said the U.N. bomb was constructed from ordnance left over from the regime of Saddam Hussein, with much of it produced in the former Soviet Union. In the truck bomb used against the world body, there were many explosives wired together, including a 500 pound bomb, the FBI said.
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The police official said the men arrested after the attack claimed the recent bombings were designed to keep Iraq in a state of chaos so that police and American forces would be unable to focus attention on the country’s porous borders, across which suspected foreign fighters are said to be infiltrating.
The four men arrived in Najaf three days before the Friday bombing and were staying with a friend, who did not know their intentions, the official said.

‘AL-QAIDA-TYPE FIGHTERS’ IN IRAQ
A shadowy group that takes its name from the alias of Mohammed Atef, bin Laden’s top deputy who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in November 2001, claimed responsibility for the U.N. bombing.


Not long after the U.N. bombing, the Abu Hafs el-Masri Brigades — one of three groups to claim responsibility — made its claim on a Web site, but U.S. officials said they could not authenticate it and it remained unclear if the group exists or has any link to the al-Qaida terror network.
American officials believe militants from Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran are infiltrating Iraq to attack Western interests. President Bush said earlier this month that more foreign “al-Qaida-type fighters” have moved in.
But Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef dismissed as “baseless” allegations that Saudis infiltrated to Iraq to join the fight against coalition forces.
“These allegations are totally baseless and we know nothing about any Saudi individual entering Iraq through our borders,” he was quoted as saying in an interview with the London-based Al-Hayat published Saturday.
According to the paper, Prince Nayef requested that anyone proven to be a Saudi who infiltrated to Iraq be turned over to Saudi authorities.

CALLS FOR VENGEANCE

Meanwhile Saturday, thousands of angry mourners called for vengeance as they gathered outside the Imam Ali shrine, site of the bombing.
The bomb detonated outside the mosque as Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim emerged after delivering a sermon calling for Iraqi unity.
“Our leader al-Hakim is gone! We want the blood of the killers of al-Hakim!” a crowd of 4,000 men beating their chests chanted.
Al-Hakim was tortured under the regime of deposed President Saddam Hussein and spent more than 20 years in exile in Iran before returning to Iraq earlier this year after the U.S.-led victory over Saddam.
Tens of thousands of worshippers were expected to fill the shrine and the surrounding streets for a funeral service later Saturday. The main road leading to the shrine was open only to pedestrians, and residents were seen carrying coffins on the tops of cars and backs of trucks for the funeral service.
No Iraqi police or U.S. soldiers were seen in the city center Saturday morning.


While many in Najaf blamed the attack on the Sunni Muslim followers of Saddam Hussein, there has been inter-Shiite violence recently in Iraq. Al-Hakim was the spiritual and top leader of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq and had divided his time since the end of the war between Tehran and Najaf, the holiest Shiite Muslim city in Iraq. His family is one of the most influential in the Shiite community in Iraq.
Younger Shiites have also conducted an internal power struggle with the more traditional Shiite Muslims in Najaf and the region, trying to grab control from the al-Hakim family. But there was no immediate evidence that the bombing was the work of the younger faction, which has its strongest support in Baghdad’s Sadr City slum.

INCREASING VIOLENCE
“We deplore this horrible act of terrorist violence,” a White House official said. “We will not be deterred in our efforts to help the Iraqi people rebuild their country and establish a representative democratic government.”


The bombing was certain to complicate American efforts to pacify an increasingly violent Iraq. A moderate cleric, al-Hakim was seen as a stabilizing force in Iraq. He repeatedly asked the country’s Shiite majority to be patient with the United States.
In Baghdad Saturday, a member of SCIRI’s politburo, Ali al-Ghadban, said the bombing would not deter it from cooperating with the Americans.
“We will continue in our dealing with the Americans, but the Americans should now be more aware of the fact that the Iraqis only are capable of preserving the security in the country,” al-Ghadban said.
“They (the Americans) are responsible for the incident because of their failure to provide security in Iraq.” He said the group would press the Americans for more powers for Iraqis.
L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. occupation’s coordinator for Iraq, was out of the country on vacation and had no plans to return early because of the bombing, his office said Saturday, adding he had been in contact. The U.S.-led coalition is responsible for overall security in Iraq.
Bremer left Iraq about a week ago and wasn’t expected to return until sometime next week, but precise dates were not released for security reasons, said Jared Young, a spokesman at the Coalition Provisional Authority.
No coalition troops were in the area of the mosque out of respect for the holy site, said Lt. Col. Jim Cassella, a spokesman for the Pentagon. U.S.-led troops have been asked to stay away from the mosque by Shiite officials.
Spanish forces, who are taking control of the region from the U.S. Marines, were seen in small numbers on its outskirts.




OTHER DEVELOPMENTS:
An oil pipeline was on fire in northern Iraq on Saturday and it would take two days to extinguish the flames, a U.S. military spokesman said. The spokesman said it was not clear whether the pipeline was the export route that leads to Turkey. The segment of the pipeline that has been hit by fire, near the town of Hawija, transports crude from Kirkuk to Baija, home of Iraq’s biggest refinery.
A U.S. soldier was in critical condition after his Humvee plunged into a canal on Saturday during preparations for a raid on the outskirts of al-Abbarah, about 50 miles north of Baghdad, the military said.
Dozens of soldiers supported by tanks and helicopters stormed seven houses on the outskirts of al-Abbarah and detained three men, including two suspected officials from Saddam’s regime, said Lt. Col. Mark Young, commander of 3rd Battalion, 67th Armor Regiment, 4th Infantry Division, on Saturday.
In Baghdad, 150 U.N. employees held a somber memorial service on Saturday to remember their colleagues killed in the Aug. 19 bombing of the U.N. office.


A U.S. soldier was killed and four others were wounded on Friday, the U.S. military said. Insurgents fired three rocket-propelled grenades at a support convoy on a main road northeast of Baqouba, 40 miles northeast of Baghdad, and small arms fire also hit the group, spokesmen said. The soldiers belonged to the 8th Infantry Regiment’s 2nd Battalion. The troop’s death raised the number of U.S. personnel killed in Iraq to 282, of which 67 have died in combat since May 1, when President Bush declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq.



A U.S. soldier was in critical condition after his Humvee plunged into a canal on Saturday during preparations for a raid on the outskirts of al-Abbarah, about 50 miles north of Baghdad, the military said.

Could this be that SF that fell?

usa320
08-30-2003, 07:23 PM
No, the SF that fell was in Southern Afghanistan.