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Ayura
09-17-2004, 07:51 PM
Taking the piss out of the Islam doctrine and all muslims seems to be acceptable on this board to moderators, yet if somemen mentioned the word "cracker" or "******" or even "jesus sucks d***" or "buddha takes it a***" the moderators would be all over them. Yet, they are allowing people to call muslims names and generalise them, which sooner or later, has the potential of turning people to racism.

It has happened before (school experiances), no doubt in my mind it will happen again.

UoUo
09-17-2004, 07:52 PM
It sad but for us..Islam symbol only bad things...simple as that.

Ayura
09-17-2004, 07:53 PM
So can me hating chinese people be acceptable? (have nothing against them, just using as example)

UoUo
09-17-2004, 07:55 PM
So can me hating chinese people be acceptable?

You can hate whoever you want.....no?

BTW : see my edit in my last reply.

Ayura
09-17-2004, 07:56 PM
It sad but for us..Islam symbol only bad things...simple as that.


Islam promotes peace and non-violence. How can that logically be seen upon as - what us westerners percieve as evil and bad - bad?

Ayura
09-17-2004, 07:57 PM
So can me hating chinese people be acceptable?

You can hate whoever you want.....no?

BTW : see my edit in my last reply.


Yes, you can...But it seems alot of people are just "hating" muslims through peer observations and thus, implies prejudice.

UoUo
09-17-2004, 07:59 PM
First..i have bad english so soory if i whouldn't understand you good. :oops:



And i know that Islam is not about killing everyone...but what can we do? most of the muslims we see is muslims that scream "allah acbar" and then blow themself up.....

Sad thing...but the terrorists use the Islam to justice thier acts...and that why people don't like Islam...

n4292936
09-17-2004, 07:59 PM
No you cannot, hating people purely based on the fact that the are physically different than you is an illogical proposition. Those physical differences are superficial characteristics of being human that have next to no bearing on how a person might behave in any given cultural setting.

However, if you choose do discriminate against a culture, then that is ok. Cultural relativism went out the door for me when I was exposed to certain cultural norms in some African tribes, aspects of Asian cultures, and some of the Indonesian island cultures. I've come to think that there are objective standards of human behavior that should not be breached (infanticide, beating your women, considering other people property, etc etc) and yet many cultures violate those standards. For that reason I dislike more than one culture. You can therefore say that you dislike Chinese for this or that reason, so long as its backed by a reasonable objection. Its not racism, its culturalism ;) :lol:

btw, most people haven't the first clue in the world about Islam and yet hate it. Most hatred is bred from either ignorance or stupidity, ussually both. (Im not accusing you Uo, just saying that it applies to most people who hate other groups of people)

Ayura
09-17-2004, 08:06 PM
I agree with you n4292936 :)

But people do not back there arguments. I do not at all mind racists, sexists, etc So long as they have a valid logical reason behind there reasonings. That inevitably in itself becomes an opinion which in my own (liberal) eyes can be seen upon acceptable.


Uouo, all you probaley see is islamic extremists on TV. That is a very small number of muslims, and the majority of muslims hate the extremists. And because all you probaley see is coincidently is all the muslims on tv protrayed as extremists.


TV - The Devils Tool

jedisponge
09-17-2004, 08:21 PM
its only because that in this day and age, most of the tragic events of the world are from people who preach (radical) islam. people, especially younger ones see everything on tv, the internet, and other types of mainstream media, see all this and put one and one together.

Novara
09-17-2004, 08:24 PM
What's this post doing here? Shouldn't it be in the "rants/politics" section. This is a rant. It has nothing to do with military issues.

CAN A MOD PLEASE PUT THIS THREAD IN THE RIGHT FORUM

No, seeing you like to be all nice and equal and stuff. I'm sure you wont mind. I had a post moved the other day because it was a "rant". Why shouldn't this post be moved.

As for your initial argument.....I blame sun spots.

moughoun
09-17-2004, 08:30 PM
What's this post doing here? Shouldn't it be in the "rants/politics" section. This is a rant. It has nothing to do with military issues.

CAN A MOD PLEASE PUT THIS THREAD IN THE RIGHT FORUM

No, seeing you like to be all nice and equal and stuff. I'm sure you wont mind. I had a post moved the other day because it was a "rant". Why shouldn't this post be moved.

As for your initial argument.....I blame sun spots.

To your special eye's it may be a rant, but he is asking a question, it what ppl other then you do before spouting ****e ;) , and I blame inbreeding for you :P

Gatling
09-17-2004, 08:33 PM
What's this post doing here? Shouldn't it be in the "rants/politics" section. This is a rant. It has nothing to do with military issues.

CAN A MOD PLEASE PUT THIS THREAD IN THE RIGHT FORUM

No, seeing you like to be all nice and equal and stuff. I'm sure you wont mind. I had a post moved the other day because it was a "rant". Why shouldn't this post be moved.

As for your initial argument.....I blame sun spots.

To your special eye's it may be a rant, but he is asking a question, it what ppl other then you do before spouting ****e ;) , and I blame inbreeding for you :P
rofl

n4292936
09-17-2004, 08:33 PM
I had a post moved the other day because it was a "rant". Why shouldn't this post be moved.because you suck and we dont ;) rofl


As for your initial argument.....I blame the episodic Milankovitch cycles.
Ya that sounds about right to me.

Ayura
09-17-2004, 08:34 PM
What's this post doing here? Shouldn't it be in the "rants/politics" section. This is a rant. It has nothing to do with military issues.

CAN A MOD PLEASE PUT THIS THREAD IN THE RIGHT FORUM

No, seeing you like to be all nice and equal and stuff. I'm sure you wont mind. I had a post moved the other day because it was a "rant". Why shouldn't this post be moved.

As for your initial argument.....I blame sun spots.

To your special eye's it may be a rant, but he is asking a question, it what ppl other then you do before spouting ****e ;) , and I blame inbreeding for you :P



:) Think before you move, grandmaster chess players will tell you that. ;)

MEGR
09-17-2004, 08:42 PM
Me? Like I've said many times before, I don't dislike the Muslims (aside from the radicals); but, I don't agree with Islam itself. You can check my previous if you want.

Bulkowski
09-17-2004, 08:50 PM
I dont want to compare Iraq to Vietnam, as much similiarities as there may or may not be, but it seems to me like the Muslims are being seen as the Vietnamese were in the 60's and early 70's.

Ayura
09-17-2004, 08:50 PM
I can respect that. Personally I believe religion is just a pack of lies altogether.

Novara
09-17-2004, 08:52 PM
:) Think before you move, grandmaster chess players will tell you that. ;)

And you would be one, would you?

:roll:

You know....there's a condition for people like you.

By the way...I'm a jazz singer called Mandy on weekends. :roll:

Hey, chessmaster. I don't care what people think about me. I don't start a post with "Why is it...."

Just get on with it!

Why is it my corn flakes go soggy after 10 minutes in milk. :(
Why is it my popsicle melts after being exposed to sunlight. :(
Why is it I get wet in rain. :(
Why is it....BAH!

Ayura
09-17-2004, 08:53 PM
but it seems to me like the Muslims are being seen as the Vietnamese were in the 60's and early 70's.



I could assume military personal would do, I however doubt normal civilians would.


Civvies these days :roll:

moughoun
09-17-2004, 08:55 PM
[quote=Ayura]
:) Think before you move, grandmaster chess players will tell you that. ;)

And you would be one, would you?

quote]
I guess English comprehension isn't your strong suit either, did he say he was one?

Ayura
09-17-2004, 08:57 PM
:) Think before you move, grandmaster chess players will tell you that. ;)

And you would be one, would you?

:roll:

You know....there's a condition for people like you.

By the way...I'm a jazz singer called Mandy on weekends. :roll:

Hey, chessmaster. I don't care what people think about me. I don't start a post with "Why is it...."

Just get on with it!

Why is it my corn flakes go soggy after 10 minutes in milk. :(
Why is it my popsicle melts after being exposed to sunlight. :(
Why is it I get wet in rain. :(
Why is it....BAH!


I could be...It's not like you know me inside out is it? And thats great that you don't care what people dont think about you. But I think it is sensible for me to tell people that they are being prejudice as it can lead to terrible things.

Just look at soo many posts on this board. Any story which involves the extremists, will no doubt have one idiot saying something like "wrap muslims in bacon and scream allah ackbar down there throats." Yes, you can go do that to the muslim that lives down your street, I'm soo sure he agrees with the extremists :roll: (sarcasm if you didn't realise)

Ayura
09-17-2004, 09:02 PM
[quote=Ayura]
:) Think before you move, grandmaster chess players will tell you that. ;)

And you would be one, would you?

quote]
I guess English comprehension isn't your strong suit either, did he say he was one?


:)

Novara
09-17-2004, 09:03 PM
Just look at soo many posts on this board. Any story which involves the extremists, will no doubt have one idiot saying something like "wrap muslims in bacon and scream allah ackbar down there throats."

Actually, I've never seen any such thing written on here. Has anyone else?
You sound young...what about 14?

Don't worry son, you'll grow up one day and smell the coffee.

Whatever...

Novara
09-17-2004, 09:05 PM
[quote=Ayura]
:) Think before you move, grandmaster chess players will tell you that. ;)

And you would be one, would you?

quote]
I guess English comprehension isn't your strong suit either, did he say he was one?

Actually, it could be read as if he was IMPLYING he was one.

It seems editing posts on an internet message board isn't your strong point. What's all that mess? :|

Ayura
09-17-2004, 09:07 PM
First of all, I was exagerating, if you know what that is. Second, I cant be bothered at the minute to find the people who say idiotic comments like that.


And I sound 14? Wow, you can hear the text written on this page?

moughoun
09-17-2004, 09:07 PM
[quote=Ayura]
:) Think before you move, grandmaster chess players will tell you that. ;)

And you would be one, would you?

quote]
I guess English comprehension isn't your strong suit either, did he say he was one?

Actually, it could be read as if he was IMPLYING he was one.

It seems editing posts on an internet message board isn't your strong point. What's all that mess? :| [/u]
I'm retarded, what's your excuse?

Novara
09-17-2004, 09:10 PM
First of all, I was exagerating, if you know what that is. Second, I cant be bothered at the minute to find the people who say idiotic comments like that.


And I sound 14? Wow, you can hear the text written on this page?

Can I hear the text written on this page? Are you asking me...or?

wait a second...

*putting my ear to the monitor*

No. I can not hear anything coming out of the monitor. My ears full of dust though. I need to clean the damn screen!

Novara
09-17-2004, 09:11 PM
I'm retarded, what's your excuse?

I'm retarded and a pain in the ass.

beat ya! :lol:

moughoun
09-17-2004, 09:14 PM
I'm retarded, what's your excuse?

I'm retarded and a pain in the ass.

beat ya! :lol:

Sorry retarded and Irish, it's the royal flush of disability's ;)

Gatling
09-17-2004, 09:14 PM
Hate in my opinion, like's already been said , is often generated by a vague idea of the unknown, a negative experience when exposed to the other, or by a pack mentality.
Why? I dunno. One thing is for sure though , it can be defeated.

Novara
09-17-2004, 09:20 PM
I'm retarded, what's your excuse?

I'm retarded and a pain in the ass.

beat ya! :lol:

Sorry retarded and Irish, it's the royal flush of disability's ;)

You're right....I can't beat that. :lol:

Ayura
09-17-2004, 09:22 PM
Were I'm from, being irish is a compliment, so technically, he didn't beat you :) Start again...

moughoun
09-17-2004, 09:27 PM
Were I'm from, being irish is a compliment, so technically, he didn't beat you :) Start again...

yes but a mental institution doesn't count p-)

n4292936
09-17-2004, 09:35 PM
Just look at soo many posts on this board. Any story which involves the extremists, will no doubt have one idiot saying something like "wrap muslims in bacon and scream allah ackbar down there throats."

Actually, I've never seen any such thing written on here. Has anyone else?
Sadly yes, there have been a number of threads on here about terrorism in which a swath of babbling dolts said just that, nearly verbatim.

moughoun
09-17-2004, 09:36 PM
Just look at soo many posts on this board. Any story which involves the extremists, will no doubt have one idiot saying something like "wrap muslims in bacon and scream allah ackbar down there throats."

Actually, I've never seen any such thing written on here. Has anyone else?
Sadly yes, there have been a number of threads on here about terrorism in which a swath of babbling dolts said just that, nearly verbatim.
Usually of the never been there never down anything remotely dangerous cathagory

ibstolidude
09-18-2004, 12:24 AM
Taking the piss out of the Islam doctrine and all muslims seems to be acceptable on this board to moderators, yet if somemen mentioned the word "cracker" or "******" or even "jesus sucks d***" or "buddha takes it a***" the moderators would be all over them. Yet, they are allowing people to call muslims names and generalise them, which sooner or later, has the potential of turning people to racism.

1) It depends on the thread, topic and forum (too include falme content) in which any of the above appears.
2) it (MOD intervention) happens more than you are aware of becuase typically a MOD will simply delete that post in an attempt to "save" the thread, it is unfortunate but it prevents a thread w/out flame from digression. Individuals have been warned in private via PM and individuals have been booted for various like usages (repeated) as you posted in include, but not limited, references of Muslims and Islamics. Because you are not aware of action does not mean action fails to take place.
3) MODs are often otherwise engaged and typically (1st hand from myself, and by the admission of other MODs) do NOT read every post. I think the topic should read: Why is it despite repeated requests for PM's to the MODs during times of offensive and abusive behavior, people still would rather complain or make comment, however do little to assist? - a simply use of the search button will reflect the number of times this request has been made; likely 2 (or less) hands can count the number of times it has been used. I DO NOT pick on you for bringing up the issue and welcome such concerns, especially those that go unnoticed, or those people feel are ignored.