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Seraphim
08-31-2003, 08:44 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030831/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&cid=540&ncid=716

By SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Beating their chests and calling for revenge, more than 300,000 Muslims began a two-day, 110-mile march to the holy city of Najaf on Sunday to mourn a cherished Shiite leader who was assassinated in a car bombing that killed at least 85 people.


The faithful followed a flatbed truck carrying a symbolic coffin for Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim, a moderate cleric and Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) opponent. Authorities said they could only find al-Hakim's hand, watch, wedding band and pen in the wreckage.


"Our revenge will be severe on the killers," read one of the many banners carried by the marchers.


Red and white roses were laid on the coffin and a large portrait of al-Hakim was placed in front of it.


The Iraqi police handling the investigation into Friday's bombing say they have arrested 19 men — many of them foreigners and all with admitted links to al-Qaida — in connection with the blast. However, many Shiites blame the cleric's death on Saddam Hussein loyalists and the U.S.-led coalition, which they say has failed to provide adequate security in the country since the dictator's fall.


"Saddam and Bush will not humiliate us," read another banner.


The procession began at the al-Kadhimiyah Shrine, one of Baghdad's most sacred Shiite sites, and was expected to grow as it weaved its way southward. The marchers were to stop at holy sites in Karbala before arriving at the blast site, Najaf's Imam Ali Shrine, for the funeral on Tuesday.


Police detained two Iraqis and two Saudis shortly after the Friday attack, and they provided information leading to the arrest of 15 other suspects, said a senior police official in Najaf, speaking on condition of anonymity.


Two Kuwaitis and six Palestinians with Jordanian passports were among the suspects, the official said. The remainder were Iraqis and Saudis, the official said, without giving a breakdown.


Initial information shows the foreigners entered Iraq (news - web sites) from neighboring Kuwait, Syria and Jordan, the official said, adding that they belong to the Wahhabi sect of Sunni Islam.


"They are all connected to al-Qaida," the official said.


Wahhabism is the strict, fundamentalist branch of Sunni Islam from which al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) draws spiritual direction. Based in Saudi Arabia, its followers show little tolerance for non-Wahhabi Sunnis and Shiites.


Al-Hakim had only returned in May from exile in Iran. While backing the formation of an Islamic state in Iraq, he had also urged unity among rival Shiite factions and tolerance of the American-led coalition.


Police said there were similarities between the mosque bombing and two recent attacks.


The bomb at the Imam Ali Shrine — the burial place of the son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad — was made from the same type of materials used in the Aug. 19 truck bombing at the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad, which killed 23 people, and the Jordanian Embassy vehicle bombing Aug. 7, which killed 19, the Iraqi official said.


U.S. officials have not confirmed any details of the arrests, which would substantiate Bush administration claims that bin Laden's followers have taken their war against the United States to Iraq.


The bombing in Najaf added urgency to U.S. plans to create a 7,500-strong Iraqi militia that would eventually take over civil defense duties in the country's cities. Gen. John Abizaid, the head of U.S. Central Command, announced plans to create the new militia, called the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, on July 21.





A day before the bombing, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, said mobilizing the Iraqi militia — rather than bringing in more U.S. or coalition troops to Iraq — was the key to stabilizing the country.

American authorities have not taken an active public role in the mosque investigation because of Iraqi sensitivity to any U.S. presence at the Najaf shrine. The mosque is the most sacred Shiite shrine in Iraq and the third holiest in the world after Mecca and Medina.

Hospital officials said 85 people died in the shrine bombing, including al-Hakim. Earlier tolls were reduced after some deaths were found to have been reported twice.

In response to the bombing, a highly respected Shiite cleric suspended his membership in the U.S.-chosen Iraqi interim Governing Council, citing a lack of security.

Mohammed Bahr al-Uloum, in exile in London until Saddam's ouster, said Saturday that his return to the council depended on the U.S.-led coalition's handing security matters to Iraqis, so that Muslim shrines could be under Islamic protection.

"This act has pushed me to postpone my membership in the governing council because it can't do anything concerning the security situation," he said.

The men arrested claimed the recent bombings were designed to keep Iraq in a state of chaos so that police and American forces would be unable to focus on the country's porous borders, the Iraqi official said.

The Najaf police official, who led the initial investigation and interrogation of the captives, said the prisoners described plots to assassinate political and religious leaders and to damage power plants, water supplies and oil pipelines.

In the latest sabotage, an explosion and fire on Saturday struck the pipeline carrying oil from Iraq's northern Kirkuk fields to Turkey.

The blaze further delayed resumption of the vital link, which costs Iraqis an estimated $7 million each day it is out of operation. The blast was the fourth to hit the line since it briefly reopened earlier this month.

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Associated Press reporter Tarek al-Issawi contributed to this report from Najaf.

Seiyuuki
08-31-2003, 02:43 PM
They need to be reminded that they are the one in the first place that kick and scream to coalition forces to stay away from mosque. Now, they're also blaming the coalition forces for lack of security around the mosque.

Saranof
08-31-2003, 02:45 PM
They need to be reminded that they are the one in the first place that kick and scream to coalition forces to stay away from mosque. Now, they're also blaming the coalition forces for lack of security around the mosque.

Well, if someone had invaded your contry, you wouldn't want them to close would you? But you would want security.

Seiyuuki
08-31-2003, 02:59 PM
They need to be reminded that they are the one in the first place that kick and scream to coalition forces to stay away from mosque. Now, they're also blaming the coalition forces for lack of security around the mosque.

Well, if someone had invaded your contry, you wouldn't want them to close would you? But you would want security.

The US wanted to provide security around the mosque and they try, but the Iraqis kick the US out.

StarvingStudent47
08-31-2003, 04:02 PM
"No matter what you do for them, in the end, they will hate you." --Green Goblin speaking to Spiderman about the downside of being a superhero

Seiyuuki
08-31-2003, 04:09 PM
"Damn if you do, damn if you don't."

txajas
08-31-2003, 05:23 PM
a) No one in Iraq asked you guys to be over there.
b) People generally just do not seem to appreciate it when some one invades their country.

spier
08-31-2003, 05:56 PM
a) No one in Iraq asked you guys to be over there.
b) People generally just do not seem to appreciate it when some one invades their country. Strange thing that.

Especially considering that a certain "someone" tried to starve the country into submission before it invaded.

Seiyuuki
08-31-2003, 06:24 PM
Strange thing that.

Especially considering that a certain "Saddam Hussein" rebuild his damage presidential palaces and built more and all those million of dollars found. With the UN oil-for-food and all that extra money left over after feeding the entire population for this certain "Saddam Hussein" to build and buy his goodies, it just boggle the mind how the Iraqis could be starving.

usa320
08-31-2003, 08:04 PM
Strange thing that.

That certain someone was the megolamaniac that was running the country.

Seiyuuki
08-31-2003, 08:19 PM
Oh God...It's a "Isn't that strange?" thread transformation!!!

txajas
09-01-2003, 12:02 AM
strange that....the amount of tangential arguments some of you can go on and on with... jeez.

spier
09-01-2003, 01:55 AM
Strange thing that.

Especially considering that a certain "Saddam Hussein" rebuild his damage presidential palaces and built more and all those million of dollars found. With the UN oil-for-food and all that extra money left over after feeding the entire population for this certain "Saddam Hussein" to build and buy his goodies, it just boggle the mind how the Iraqis could be starving. And you think the Iraqi people know that it was Saddams fault that they were starving? :roll:

budanski
09-01-2003, 02:41 AM
And you think the Iraqi people know that it was Saddams fault that they were starving? :roll:

Its naive fools like you who were the ideal targets for the Baathist propaganda machine.

Yes, the evil zionist american war piggies demanded that he (Saddam) break with UN resolutions, pose threats to its neighbors, made him support international terrorists, etc. .... you get this gist. :roll:

txajas
09-01-2003, 05:36 AM
And you think the Iraqi people know that it was Saddams fault that they were starving? :roll:

Its naive fools like you who were the ideal targets for the Baathist propaganda machine.

Yes, the evil zionist american war piggies demanded that he (Saddam) break with UN resolutions, pose threats to its neighbors, made him support international terrorists, etc. .... you get this gist. :roll:

1. Israel also broke plenty of UN resolutions, so what's up with the double standard.

2. Threat to its neigbour, sheet they were unable to last more than a couple of weeks defending their OWN country, now... that was a threat allright. Astarved out population with half of the country covered by no-fly zone. Whoah... that is quite a threat youse guys got there!

3. What international terrorist groups? The anti-mullah Iranian groups that he was hosting, which were encouraged by the US?

.... yeah, Of course you propaganda was better. He was 20 ft tall, and able to fire deadly plasma rays off his ass... the moustache hide a complex aray of lase beams and his breath could send anthrax spores as far as the eye could see. So he was an evil bastard oppresing his own people -there are plenty of those in the world as of now- Oh wait he was an evil bastar oppresing his own people whose country happens to be on top of tons of oil. Oh I get it....

So? Where are them WMD? Remember he had a 45 minute deployment capability. LOL