My Username and BHD93 Forums.

[garyfanclub]

Figured I'd share this with you guys, I received this in my PM messenger after I registered yesterday and I have no idea what the motivation for it was.


Dude,

Ditch the username and get a new one.

This is not a fan site. We don't play airsoft here.

This place is filled with real deals. It's for real discussions of real events and real topics. Those of us with just a tad bit of military experience don't do "fan clubs".

Just a bit of friendly advice before you post something and get smoked for it.

Does my handle offend any of you military experience in here?

[Vance]

Probably on the reference of Gary Gordon that they got mad at you. It might have nothing to do with him but they thought it was.

[stuntman]

garyfanclub! it looks like gayfanclub... maybe thats why?

[Sean85]

just use your first name and birth year, thats what mine is on that site

[Vance]

Sean, I think I've told you this before, but Clay Othic is the one who said that quote in your sig.

[GazB]

"garyfanclub! it looks like gayfanclub... maybe thats why?"

Do you want to join, of pssd off they wouldn't take you?

"Does my handle offend any of you military experience in here?"

I have no military experience, but plenty of hunting experience and no experience with airsoft toys.
Just tell them to go fk themselves.

IF American rednecks can make jokes about Russian sailors drowning, then you can choose you own handle without their permission.

[garyfanclub]

gayfanclub... Real creative. :fork:

Actually it has nothing to do with anyone, it's simply a collection of random words.

I'm probably just going to change it to "gfc"

[mocking_loudly]

Who cares what any one thinks, its the bloody internet.

Look them in their text based eyes and say "f*ck you and your ****ty hair cut!".

Change nothing.

[hood]

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do." If you go over to a friends house and they have a rule where you have to take your shoes off, even if you think it's a stupid rule, you do it anyway because you don't want something simple like that getting in the way of having a good time. I think the name thing falls into that category.

[Bulkowski]

and we do play airsoft here, thats why it has its own section rofl

[mocking_loudly]

Christ, the dude said his name has nothing to do with BHD, this reminds me of those people that complained about the Lord Of The Rings – Two Towers title.

Not all names relate to dead American soldiers.

Should I phone my mate Andy and tell him to change his name because people may think his taking the piss out of Andy McNab?.

[GazB]

"Christ, the dude said his name has nothing to do with BHD,"

Ahh, I was wondering who Gary Gordon was. Why would anyone assume it was that gary? Why would anyone assume it was any Gary at all?

Egocentric? 5.5 billion other people on the planet guys...

[mocking_loudly]

Egocentric? 5.5 billion other people on the planet guys...

rofl

Exactly.

We all should carry around little books to make sure we don't use certain names, because some body with a large rod up their arse may assume that we are all pouring **** on fallen heros. < alert to much sarcasm ;)

Just the other day I was thinking of naming my dog Jesus....I think I may need to write a letter to the pope.....nah stuff him!.

[hood]

if he changed his name to gary, i doubt they'd say anything. how many people do you know that have a last name of 'fanclub' though?

[gaz]

The site in question is in large part dedicated to the events of October 3rd 1993, and in particular the men who fell in battle, one of whom was Master Sergeant Gary Gordon.
There are people at the site who spend large amounts of time searching for veterans of Somalia and information about it to post for the rest of us with an interest to read.

At various times we've had people register who for lack of a better word, were arseholes (I'm not suggesting Garyfanclub is one), so when certain things are seen on the board, "red flags" get raised. For instance, using a name that relates to a person involved in the Battle of the Black Sea (For which I imagine Garyfanclub recieved the PM), posting anti-military/anti US articles or just generally talking crap, and the third reason a red flag gets raised (To explain the original airsoft reference) is people requesting information about weapons/uniforms for "gaming" reasons. When I say "gaming" I'm referrring to those who make modifications for PC games such as "Halflife" or "Ghost Recon", or who play airsoft. The simple fact is that a lot of the military veterans I know through the BHD93 board find that kind of stuff laughable, but as Hood said "When in Rome...." - our military members don't come here to make fun of airsoft players, so we'd appreciate it if you played by our "rules" when visiting our board.

Now, for Mocking_Loudly and GazB (Whom it seems I have the misfortune to share a name with), as I said before, that site is dedicated to US soldiers who fell in Somalia, one of whom was called Gary, who has a board set up solely in his honour, so it's not a case of one name out of 5.5Billion - it's a case of one name out of 19.

By the way, I'm not a moderator at BHD93, I'm just a regular poster there who also lurks here occasionally, I'm not even American or in the military, but I respect them enough to play by their rules.

Thanks for your time.

[gaz]

I said 19 in that case since we have individual rememberance boards set up for 19 soldiers - the 18 who were killed in the Battle of the Black Sea and SFC Matthew Rierson who survived that battle but was killed a few days later in a mortar attack. As you correctly stated there were other members of the US Military who were killed in Somalia (I believe a further 26), including the men in the AC-130 (Jockey14) which crashed as well as members of the 1st Marine Division, the 101st Airborne, 10th Mountain and US Army Special Forces.

[SOG]

last time i checked this is a public forum? if it was a military only forum i would understand but just because some mil frequent here we are subject to thier rules or this insiders view? do they go out in public and expect everyone to conform to thier ideas of what is exceptable? jesus, when any ex mil passes a game clans site he must have a stroke! all these people using names like delta seal ranger mil must downright grow a inch with what they just ****. sorry when in rome, do as the romans do, and since this is a public forum with standard public rules i expect people to conform to the sites rules. if you want to try and fit in and get less crap, whatever. this is literally a form of bullying and reaks of trying to fit in in high school. there is nothing wrong with this guys name period. if it reminds you of something unpleasant too ****ing bad. if you want someone to hold you :petting: weve had so called "professionals" make fun of evryone and anything at this site. wow, just like ANY other public forum.

[Fargin]

^ :roll:

[gaz]

last time i checked this is a public forum? if it was a military only forum i would understand but just because some mil frequent here we are subject to thier rules or this insiders view? do they go out in public and expect everyone to conform to thier ideas of what is exceptable? jesus, when any ex mil passes a game clans site he must have a stroke! all these people using names like delta seal ranger mil must downright grow a inch with what they just ****. sorry when in rome, do as the romans do, and since this is a public forum with standard public rules i expect people to conform to the sites rules. if you want to try and fit in and get less crap, whatever. this is literally a form of bullying and reaks of trying to fit in in high school. there is nothing wrong with this guys name period. if it reminds you of something unpleasant too f*** bad. if you want someone to hold you :petting: weve had so called "professionals" make fun of evryone and anything at this site. wow, just like ANY other public forum.

I'm not sure which forum you're referring to. Everything I mentioned in my first post was in reference to BHD93, so none of my arguments apply to the names of people in use on this board, only to those in use at BHD93.

[gaz]

Tane Angle, Sergeant Major Freedman was killed in December 1992, he is included in the count I earlier quoted, though I can't take credit for gathering this information. There is a small group of people at BHD93 (One man in particular) who spend a lot of their free time trying to gather information and protect the memories of those who died in Somalia.

As for Garyfanclub changing his name, I believe he does, if requested to do so by the person who runs the site. In fact, I'm not even sure of "Freedom of speech" applies to this matter in the conventional sense. After all, BHD93 is not an American site - it's actually run out of Germany.

Thanks for your time.

[gaz]

Anytime, but please don't call me sir - I'm a 24 year old engineering student, I've done nothing to warrant that. ;)

[SOG]

I'm not sure which forum you're referring to. Everything I mentioned in my first post was in reference to BHD93, so none of my arguments apply to the names of people in use on this board, only to those in use at BHD93.

im refering to this forum hence the words ""last time i checked THIS is a public forum?""

sorry for any confusion. most of my ranting was refering to this site. although if bhd93 is a civ forum and the rules do not state anything about names then again i see no problem. i find it odd that the whole problem is people are not themselves and have to roleplay thier names and change thier game on different forums because outiders want to conform to insiders to be accepted and if they dont they get yelled at, yet this creates the whole problem of not being yourself and and being someone your not. its the same like acting machismo around a group of guys or if your hitting on chicks. so to chastise someone for having a non military name and because it may "tick" some pushy "pro" off actually creates the problem of people not being themselves. this is true of all groups who have thier ins and outs and verbally punish everyone different in thier own little "world".

[hood]

The living must defend the dead, because the dead can't do it for themselves. That's all they're saying concerning the bhd93 forums. As for here, I haven't seen any restrictions on names.

[gaz]

The problem is not having a "non-military name" - my name is non-military, it's a nickname I've had for twenty years and I run into no problems with it at BHD93 or at other military forums I frequent (Including this one), the problem lies with people calling themselves things such as "Shughart", and presumably if you know who Gary Gordon was, then you know who Randy Shughart was too. We actually had a person register under that name at BHD93 and when you bear in mind we have as members men who fought on October 3rd 1993 and also family members of men who died there, I don't think there's anything wrong with them being asked to pick another screen name.

[California Joe]

That's why my name is a Civil War Sharpshooter. I figure Tane is the only one here that possibly could have known him. :lol:

[SOG]

The problem is not having a "non-military name" - my name is non-military, it's a nickname I've had for twenty years and I run into no problems with it at BHD93 or at other military forums I frequent (Including this one), the problem lies with people calling themselves things such as "Shughart", and presumably if you know who Gary Gordon was, then you know who Randy Shughart was too. We actually had a person register under that name at BHD93 and when you bear in mind we have as members men who fought on October 3rd 1993 and also family members of men who died there, I don't think there's anything wrong with them being asked to pick another screen name.

thats is correct and there is nothing wrong with that. im referring to using the name seal and delat etc in names. i wholly agree parading around with a recently deceased dead mans name is not cool anywhere you go.


As for here, I haven't seen any restrictions on names.

so you havnt seen any of the "dont wear it if you havnt earned it" posts and all the bitching about weak ass air softers or people on this forum with names and or avatars that mil have a prob with? odd, its comes up everytime a poor bastard here chooses the wrong name or avatar.

[Trigger]

Flame wars are different than 'restrictions'

[hood]

well those are individual people's opinions which you'll get anywhere. but you don't see me, the mod, restricting people or telling people they can't have something like that, unlike some other sites.

[California Joe]

Sorry my friend, I was referencing your age and possible service in the War between the States...... ;) Just levity. nothing more.

PS I agree with everything you wrote. I usually agree with everything you write anyway. Heh.

[Trigger]

I usually agree with everything you write anyway.
California Joe - the Original 'Yes Man'

tag you're it.

[California Joe]

My Grandfather died a month after I was born. He was 101. I will endeavour to find that for you. I have it somewhere here.....

The Story of California Joe


With the popularity of Truman Head's media sharp shooting fame,
Colonel H. Berdan makes hay


His Civil War
by Floyd D. P. Øydegaard






The newspapers stated that Truman Head was born in Philadelphia (actually Otsego, New York; the newspapers had it wrong, as usual), about 1820, (Truman lied about his age when he joined the 1st USSS), and after falling in love with a fair damsel and being "forced" to never see her again, (by her father!), Truman headed for California to find his fortune in the gold that flowed in every stream. He was very lucky in making a few good claims and donated $50,000 of it to The Philadelphia Old Soldiers Home (so the newspapers stated). He was "farsighted" enough to be the first one of Company C to purchase a Sharps Rifle. His exploits and his aim became legendary with that Sharps. The Union needed heroes and they made fantastic articles and his image would be etched in every weekly publication. However he was discharged do to his actual age, although they said he was having trouble with his eyes (must have seen him with specticles, something one avoided in the 19th century! Also being over 40 was a sure sign that one had to be a little senile).



The Muster records for Truman Head state; Age 42 years, height 5 feet 7 inches with light complexion, L.B. eyes D.B. hair, born in Otsego, N.Y. with occupation as Hunter. He enlisted Sept. 14, 1861 at Washington DC by C.H. Hosmer (2Lt.), for 3 years and was discharged Nov. 3, 1862.
On Aug. 26, 1861 he was on "Company Muster-in Roll" at Detroit, Mich. as private, in Capt. Duesler's Co., Berdan's Sharp Shooters. Next "outstanding" entry states; Sept & Oct 1862 Absent Sick, Clifburn(sic) Hosp. Washington, Due him $14.00 from 2 Auditous(?) roll.
Cliffburne USA General Hospital at District of Columbia verifies his presence.


Co. C Muster Roll shows date of Dec 31, 1862 with remarks that he has been "Dischgd Nov 3/62." The final notation has these notes; Truman Head, Priv., Co. C. 1 Reg't U.S.S.Shooters, age 42 years, (never aged a day?) Appears on Co. Muster-out Roll, dated W Petersburg VA, Aug 20, 1864 with last paid to Nov 3, 1863. Remarks state "Dischg'd Nov 3/63 Washington D.C. by order Gen Martindale. Dischg'd on Surg. Cent of Dis Nov 4/62. See off...." here it was torn and lost.

The last bit of information was his discharge paper; "Army of The United States Certificate of Disability For Discharge. Private Truman Head of Lieut Jas. H. Baker Company "C" of the 1st Regiment of United States Sharpshooters was enlisted by Capt Duesler of the 1st Regiment of U.S.S.S. at New York City on the 4th day of September 1861, to serve 3 years; he was born in Otsego Co. in the state of New York is 52 years of age, (lied about ten years!), 5 feet 7 inches high, Light complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, and by occupation when enlisted a Hunter.

"During the last two months the soldier has been unfit for duty at Cliffburne Genl' Hospital October 3, 1862 Surgeon U.S. Vols in charge. I certify, that I have carefully examined the said Truman Head of Lieut Baker's Company, and find him incapable of performing the duties of a soldier because of 'Senility and Impaired Vision.' Discharged this fourth day of November 1862, at Washington D.C. by Henry Bryans, Surgeon U.S. Vols in charge."




NOTE: This Is not the same California Joe that rode as a scout for General Custer during the Indian Wars. Although they have similar characteristics, Custer's man was Moses Milner. Unlike Truman, Moses was a story teller.

[California Joe]

Nice post monkeyboy. Watch your back....... :)