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4LPH4 B3T4
09-01-2003, 05:15 PM
I am searching pics/info of armoured bulldozers!
http://img.tapuz.co.il/ForumsGallery/galleryimages/676gallery_36003.jpg
(High Res. prefered)
TIA. :D
ArmoredDov_D9
09-01-2003, 06:18 PM
You can find some at:
http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Army/CAT_D-9/index.html
and here:
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/topic.asp?topic_id=432071
and here:
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/topic.asp?topic_id=371027
and here:
http://www.katif.net/slide.php?id=551
also, try to search in Yahoo!News Photos with the keyword "bulldozer".
IDF armourd D9L bulldozer. The D9L is a bit larger than the D9N and the new D9R.
http://www.jed.simonides.org/engineer/charlie/caterpillar-d10_series/israeli-armoured/israrm_001.jpg
Wrecking a house. http://www.jed.simonides.org/engineer/charlie/caterpillar-d10_series/israeli-armoured/israrm_002.jpg
An IDF armoured D9N bulldozer handling a suspicious van that might be wired with explosives. This photo gives a good sense about the size of this metal beast.
http://www.jed.simonides.org/engineer/charlie/caterpillar-d10_series/israeli-armoured/israrm_004.jpg
ArmoredDov_D9
09-01-2003, 06:41 PM
As for information:
IDF armoured Caterpillar D9 bulldozer
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload01/030904_010353-5824_D9-idf%20pic126.jpg
The D9 is orginally heavy tracked bulldozer made by Caterpiller for earth-moving and grand terrain works. The D9 has serveral generation currently at service within the IDF (from oldest to the newest): D9L, D9N and D9R.
Those bulldozers are fitted with Israeli-made armour kit and a bullet-proof cabine. The armour plating is considered heavy and adds to the bulldozer's appearance and performence. Also, the D9 can be fitted with servral kind of "blade"s (shovels) and even with mine-breaching devices.
The Israeli Combat Engineer Corps are using the D9 for digging moats, clearing terrain obstacles and even rescuing tanks that stucked. The D9s are also used to clear mine fields and ****y-trapped areas.
The heavy armour allows the D9s to work under heavy fire.
Most notable is the use of a D9 to demolish houses. While usually a civilian house demolition is done by a bagger (with long arm) the D9 demolishes houses of terrorists in the heart of Palestinian cities. It is mainly used to demolish houses under fire, to bring in the terrorist hiding inside to turn themselves over to the IDF without risking any soldiers lives.
The D9 operators unit have won a medal of honor following its devoted life-saving action under heavy fire in Jenin.
More Articles:
http://www.tau.ac.il/~izhake/bulldozer1.doc
http://www.time.com/time/2002/jenin/
hendrix33
09-01-2003, 08:00 PM
Source: http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/engineer_vehicles/bulldozers/Bulldozers.html
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/engineer_vehicles/bulldozers/d10_3.jpghttp://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/engineer_vehicles/bulldozers/d10_4.jpg
This is an American D9 and D10 bulldozers that was armored by IDF for the Israeli Combat Engineer Corps. Engineered for demanding work. The D9 durable construction is made for tough working conditions. It keeps material moving with the reliability and low operating costs you expect from Cat tractors. The 3408E engine, when matched with the torque divider and field proven powershift transmission, will provide years of dependable service.
Source (Russian): http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/ground_support.htm
http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/Ground_support/bulldozer.jpg
These two come from a Palestinian propoganda site
http://terrasol.home.igc.org/mideast/bulldozer1.jpg
http://terrasol.home.igc.org/mideast/bulldozer2.jpg
Mortimer
09-01-2003, 08:57 PM
http://electronicintifada.net/artman/uploads/rach.jpg
heh...yeah those bulldozers.....
Remember Rachel Corey ?
ArmoredDov_D9
09-02-2003, 06:24 AM
Yes. And it turned to be a big ISM lie.
How ironicly you brought the picture that ISM claimed it was taken MINUTES before the event but it was later revealed that this picture was taken HOURS before.
At the end, it turned out that Rachel died due injuries caused by a falling debris that the bulldozer accidently moved. In no way the bulldozer ran over her (or was above her).
Anyway, sit in front of a nerrow-sighted bulldozer is an act of foolinesh and irresponsibility. The driver could not see nor hear her and she put everyone in the warzone, including her, in danger.
Mortimer
09-02-2003, 08:14 AM
Yes. And it turned to be a big ISM lie.
How ironicly you brought the picture that ISM claimed it was taken MINUTES before the event but it was later revealed that this picture was taken HOURS before.
At the end, it turned out that Rachel died due injuries caused by a falling debris that the bulldozer accidently moved. In no way the bulldozer ran over her (or was above her).
Anyway, sit in front of a nerrow-sighted bulldozer is an act of foolinesh and irresponsibility. The driver could not see nor hear her and she put everyone in the warzone, including her, in danger.
want the picture minutes AFTER?
ArmoredDov_D9
09-02-2003, 08:30 AM
Go ahead.
You can find it here:
http://indymedia.org.il/imc/webcast/52505.html
You'll see in the picture the came after a tower in the background and that the bulldozer is different. Moreover, in the second picture the bulldozer is driving inside a ditch and its blade is pretty empty, while in the picture you brought there's no ditch and the blade is full of rubble.
You just prooved my point. Thanks.
p.s. It spells "Corrie", not "Corey".
IDFM203
09-02-2003, 02:06 PM
oh and lets not forget this pic of this "wonderfull and peacefull girl"
http://www.geocities.com/Rachav/rachel-corrie-flag-02.jpg
ArmoredDov_D9
09-02-2003, 03:49 PM
You probably mean to this picture:
http://www.geocities.com/rachav/rachel-corrie-flag-02.jpg
Rachel Corrie tearing apart what seems to be a twisted combination of USA (red stripe) flag and Israeli flag (blue hollowed stars and blue stripe).
More information:
http://www.geocities.com/rachav/Rachel_Corrie_Propaganda.html
More over, Rachel's orgainzation, the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), has protecting terrorists. One of them, Islamic Jihad's Shadi Soukia was caught by IDF forces in the ISM offices in Jenin. The two ISM activist refuse to turn Soukia in and tried to hide him from the soldiers.
Mortimer
09-02-2003, 11:32 PM
if you believe that then thats upto you. no matter what the circumstances she was killed by that bulldozer and thats wrong. that website's 'theory' (becuase thats all it is) has holes all the way though it.
who cares if two of the photos are different they had been protesting for weeks and i am sure would have had many close encounters and many photos
http://www.geocities.com/rachav/lthumb.1047858187.mideast_israel_protester_killed_gaz112.jpg
The FACT is there is corrie on the ground on the track of a bulldozer is enough for me...put two and two together...look at the other photos she is covered in dirt...after being crushed into the ground.
that whole slope thing? they could have moved her...it could be perspective it could be a number of things....it doesn't really matter
I have read articles/posts from people who were there, you and that websites author have not.
SURE people have taken advantage of it as they always do, but the fact still remains.
ogukuo72
09-03-2003, 12:00 AM
I don't know about this case, but it seems to me that if you put yourself in front of a bulldozer, then you have to be prepared to get squished like a bug. It's a no-brainer. I won't even put myself in front of a bike! I guess she was assuming that the bull-dozer would stop in time.
ArmoredDov_D9
09-03-2003, 06:06 AM
if you believe that then thats upto you. no matter what the circumstances she was killed by that bulldozer and thats wrong. that website's 'theory' (becuase thats all it is) has holes all the way though it.
It is not a matter of beliefs, it is a matter of merely facts.
As a future engineer I looked over the case and analyzed the account ISM witness gave to different cases. Guess what? In each newspaper we got a different story. In one newspaper they claimed Rachel climed over the blade, in other they told she "sat in front of the bulldozer" and in another they say she "kneeled".
who cares if two of the photos are different they had been protesting for weeks and i am sure would have had many close encounters and many photos
So you don't care that ISM lied?
The FACT is there is corrie on the ground on the track of a bulldozer is enough for me...put two and two together...look at the other photos she is covered in dirt...after being crushed into the ground.
Well, that's not the fact. Had Rachel have been crushed by the bulldozer's track she would died instantly and her body would look like a (s)mashed potato. I saw once the damage caused to a car when a bulldozer ran over it. You can't survive a 62-ton thing moving above you.
As you see from the photo - Rachel isn't crushed at all. She is only bleeding from her face and her body is unharmed. And there goes to drain your crush theory.
Moreover, in a pro-leftist research TV broadcast - a video from the scene of accident was revealed. The videos shows that ISM were lying. They told, for instance, that the bulldozer drove over her, done reverse and then drove over her again. In the video you saw it driving foward, stopped when he felt he bumped into something (probably concrete debris) and when he done reverse he saw Rachel lying there. He didn't ran over her again as ISM claim.
ISM are not a reliable source of information and if you want to argue about what happened there, go ahead. Rachel and her reckless friends should not have played "Russian Rollete" with a 62-ton nerrow-sighted armoured giant bulldozer. They put everyone's life in danger in thir attempt to sabotage a military operation.
ArmoredDov_D9
09-09-2003, 01:03 PM
More pictures:
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload01/030715_194048-5436_d9-idf%20pic092.jpg
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload01/030827_184542-326_D9-idf%20pic107.jpg
(D9 compared to army truck)
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload01/030904_222901-7715_D9-idf%20pic046.jpg
(D9 at night inside Arafat's compund)
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload01/030905_005142-24_D9-idf%20pic116.jpg
(D9 in Gaza strip)
http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload01/030905_191349-1160_D9-idf%20pic093.jpg
(D9 in Beit-Hanoun. Notice the side window arrengement, it is the latest armour kit version and it also installed on the American D9 bought from Israel)
(to Hendrix or Sirpad - you may post them at Fresh Tsava VeBitahon. The pictures are taken mostly from YahooNews)
He219
09-09-2003, 03:56 PM
I read that the US had provisions to buy nine American Built/Israeli Armored Cat's for situations they never encountered in Iraq. Did the sale actually go through??
An interesting pic I stumbled across:
http://charleston.net/images/033103/4312_512.jpg
Israeli soldiers train for urban combat at a military base in southern Israel in this picture distributed by Israel's Defense Force on Feb. 5.
Are the 'Robes' part of an urban combat mission? Interesting nonetheless...
ArmoredDov_D9
09-09-2003, 04:13 PM
I read that the US had provisions to buy nine American Built/Israeli Armored Cat's for situations they never encountered in Iraq. Did the sale actually go through??
Yes. And the Marines who used them were so pleased from them, that they request to buy more.
D9 Dozer ~ These bulldozers received highly favorable reviews from all that benefited from their use. They were seen clearing a row of buildings effectively within an extremely short period of time. Also, they were used in quickly clearing a highway for use and constructing hasty combat roads. Marines stated that the D9 can do the equivalent of approximately (4) D7 dozers. They would like to see this Dozer employed in more operations in the future. - Field Report: Marine Corps Systems Command Liaison Team , Central Iraq , 20 April to 25 April 2003
As for the soldiers with the camo robes - they are probably snipers or desginated marksmen which operates in the outskirt of the village and not do deep penetrations.
BTW, you can see a D9 bulldozer and a Nagmahon APC in the back of the pictures.
He219
09-09-2003, 05:31 PM
ArmoredDov_D9, I did notice them, thus the post ;)
Alright, now this is really funny, I was doing some research and found this (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Caterpillar+armored+D9&btnG=Google+Search). Click on the Caterpillar D9-Wikipedia listing and look at the bottom of the page....
Click on 'Photos of D9 and D10 in action' and viola! militaryphotos.com - THIS POST, Hahahahahaha
some more...
http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/caab/articles/kuwait-diga.jpg
Two D9 bulldozers work in tandem outside at a training range near Camp Virginia, Kuwait. Joseph Giordono / S&S
http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/caab/articles/kuwait-digb.jpg
Sgt. Jerel Moses, of the 94th Engineer Support Battalion, gets used to operating the new D9 dozer at Camp Virginia, Kuwait. It will replace the older D7 version. Joseph Giordono / S&S
http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/caab/articles/kuwait-digd.jpg
Crewmembers from the 94th Engineer Support Battalion trade places in one of the new 400-horsepower D9 bulldozers. Joseph Giordono / S&S
Read more Here (http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/caab/articles/kuwait-dig.htm)
... and these pics are for ArmoredDov_D9:
http://www.eto.home.att.net/images/idfarmoredd9.jpg
An IDF armored D9 destroying the terrorists stronghold while Unit YAMAM operators providing fire support. Note an EOD robot in front of the fence.
http://www.eto.home.att.net/images/d9destroys.jpg
;)
ArmoredDov_D9
09-09-2003, 06:14 PM
Thanks...
The last picture you brought were from Taybe. An Israeli city (captured at 1948) populated only by Arabs and close to the West Bank. In the year 2000, a team of terrorist infilirated to Taybe and barricaded themselves in the city. YAMAM sent one dog who died before letting the D9 raze the house.
Saranof
09-10-2003, 11:00 AM
I don't know about this case, but it seems to me that if you put yourself in front of a bulldozer, then you have to be prepared to get squished like a bug. It's a no-brainer. I won't even put myself in front of a bike! I guess she was assuming that the bull-dozer would stop in time.
What do you think about the guy who stood infront of those tanks i China then?
Did he deserve to be crushed?
citizen-k
09-10-2003, 02:30 PM
What do you think about the guy who stood infront of those tanks i China then?
Did he deserve to be crushed?
Was he defending terrorists?
Was he crushed in a war zone?
The tanks were brought for him, so if he wasn't there - there were no tanks.
The buldozer wasn't brought for her, so even if she wasn't there - there was a buldozer. (It was brought in order to destroy a house of a suicide bomber)
Get the difference?
I'll write it in your own European language, so you'll understand it faster:
If there weren't any Jews in Europe, there weren't any gas chambers
So accourding to your logic:
Jews are to be blamed for the gas chamners.
[quote=Saranof]
I'll write it in your own European language, so you'll understand it faster:
If there weren't any Jews in Europe, there weren't any gas chambers
So accourding to your logic:
Jews are to be blamed for the gas chamners.
No, because there were also gays and handicapped people in the gaschambers.
ArmoredDov_D9
09-10-2003, 05:38 PM
I don't know about this case, but it seems to me that if you put yourself in front of a bulldozer, then you have to be prepared to get squished like a bug. It's a no-brainer. I won't even put myself in front of a bike! I guess she was assuming that the bull-dozer would stop in time.
What do you think about the guy who stood infront of those tanks i China then?
Did he deserve to be crushed?
Well, when you sit just in front of a 4-meter bulldozer, how the hell the driver supposed to see her? It was an ACCIDENT, caused mainly be Rachel's reckless behaivor.
perdurabo
09-11-2003, 04:58 AM
Agh why in discusion about Israel/Palestine war Jews always bring gas chambers? in 2world war 40 milion russians died over5milion Poles so please have some respect for them !! don't bring suffering of bilions peaple to yours war! Meany members of my family died then, one was shot in his head by comunist few after war was send by comuist in prison so please have some respect!!!
ArmoredDov_D9
09-11-2003, 06:03 AM
I agree. The Holocaust and WW2 should be put outside this disscussion.
ArmoredDov_D9
09-16-2003, 09:41 AM
In Dura, a senior Islamic Jihad terrorist was shot dead after he tried to escape a IDF force who sieged his house in Dura. The terrorist, Ahmed Majid Abu Dosh, was responisble to the murder of numerous Israelis.
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20030916/i/1063716083.4160823385.jpg
An Israeli Army bulldozer destroys the house belonging to an Islamic Jihad militant during an army operation in the West Bank town of Dura near Hebron September 16, 2003.Israeli troops raided Dura and shot dead Ahmed Abu Dosh a senior commander for the Islamic Jihad group. *******/ Loay Abu Haykel
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20030916/i/1063717051.3288440926.jpg
Two Palestinians carry the body of Islamic Jihad militant Ahmed Abu Dosh who was killed during an army operation in the West Bank town of Dura near Hebron September 16, 2003. Israeli troops raided Dura and shot dead, Dosh, a senior commander for the Islamic Jihad group. *******/Nayef Hashlamoun
After he was shot dead, an IDF armoured D9 bulldozer razed the house. The troops scan the rubbles to determined whether there were more terrorists inside the house.
Apogee
09-16-2003, 10:06 AM
Here's an Armored Bulldozer, American Style:
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior6.jpg
http://www.mccoy.army.mil/ReadingRoom/Triad/01122001/images/bulldozer_300_X.jpg
http://www.mccoy.army.mil/ReadingRoom/Triad/11232001/images/DEUCE_300x.jpg
ArmoredDov_D9
09-16-2003, 11:01 AM
The picture above is a D7 with TPK (Tractor Protection Kit).
It looks a bit clumy and there is no sight-field for the operator.
Do you know what the metal tubes (left) and the strange white rode (right) are using for?
In the two pictures below the vehicle is not a "real dozer" but a truck with a blade - using for snow-sapping mainly.
The D9 tops them both.
Apogee
09-16-2003, 11:50 AM
The top on is during a USMC MOUT FTX (hows thats for acyromyms), so I'm guessing the pipes have something to do with that.
THe bottom two are the Army's new Deployable Universal Combat Earthmover. It can roll on/off a C130. So its easier to deploy than a 56,000 big boy.
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