Today's Pictures, Sep. 1-8

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Members of Japan Ground Self-Defense Force carry an elderly man out of a wrecked house during an annual disaster drill conducted at a park in Iruma, west of Tokyo, Monday, Sept. 1, 2003. Some 1.33 million people took part in the practice rescue operations Monday in Tokyo and neighboring prefectures on the assumption that the areas have been devastated by an earthquake. (AP Photo/Itsuo Inouye)




Bangladeshi and Pakistani troops parade, Monday, Sept.1, 2003, at N'drodo camp in Bunia., during a handover ceremony. The European Union-led emergency force formally transferred control of military operations in the troubled northeastern Congo on Monday to Bangladeshi troops. The change marks the end of deployment of the French force that arrived in June to stem tribal fighting. (AP Photo/Sayyid Azim)





U.S. soldiers members of Company C 1/111 serving in the peacekeeping mission in Kosovo, walk by blood stains after a hand grenade exploded outside a small shop killing one Serb and injuring four others, in the ethnically mixed village of Cernica in eastern Kosovo Monday, Sept. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Visar Kryeziu)




Palestinian schoolgirls in uniform, at left, walk toward the Al Fatemiya school in the West Bank town of Nablus as an Israeli tank stands in the middle of the road Monday Sept. 1, 2003. Over 1,000 Palestinian students in Nablus started the school year Monday. (AP Photo/ Nasser Ishtayeh)




Palestinians try to put out a fire after an Israeli helicopter missile strike in Gaza City, Monday, Sept. 1, 2003. Israeli helicopters fired four missiles at a car carrying Hamas militants Monday, killing at least one person and wounding 26 on a crowded Gaza City street in the sixth such attack in two weeks. (AP Photo/STR)



Three children play near an armored tank in Cucuta, on the northeastern border with Venezuela, Monday, Sept.1, 2003. President Alvaro Uribe transferred the seat of government to the violence-wracked town along the Venezuelan border Monday as part of efforts to bring state authority to embattled regions where leftist rebels and right-wing paramilitary groups are battling for the zones control. He will govern for two days in Cucuta.(AP Photo/ Fernando Vergara)



Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe, center with hat, arrives in Torcoroma, a neighboorhood in Cucuta, located on the northeastern border with Venezuela, Monday, Sept.1,2003. Uribe transferred the seat of government to the violence-wracked town of Cucuta along the Venezuelan border Monday as part of efforts to bring state authority to embattled regions where leftist rebels and right-wing paramilitary groups are battling for the zones control. He will govern for two days in Cucuta.(AP Photo/ Fernando Vergara)




Libyan fighter pilots salute during a military parade as thousands of women watch at Tripoli's main square late Monday, Sept. 1, 2003 during a female-themed celebration marking the 34th anniversary of Libyan Leader Moammer Gadhafi's power. (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)



Libyan soldiers perform a self defence show during a military parade at Tripoli's main square late Monday, Sept. 1, 2003 during a female-themed celebration marking the 34th anniversary of Libyan Leader Moammer Gadhafi's power. (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)




Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah inspects a Russian honor guard in Moscow's Vnukovo airport Tuesday, Sept. 2, 2003, with an unidentified Russian official at center. Crown Prince Abdullah arrived Tuesday on the first visit to post-Soviet Russia by a Saudi leader, aimed at strengthening Moscow's ties with the Arab world, coordinating oil exports and soothing Russian concerns about alleged funding of Chechen rebels by Saudi charities. (AP Photo/ Mikhail Metzel)




China announced on September 1, 2003 that it would cut 200,000 job from its People's Liberation Army (PLA), the world's largest military, by the end of next year with information technology replacing manpower as the key to modern warfare. Chinese soldiers are shown before a live fire demonstration in Tianjin, southeast of the capital Beijing on July 10, 2002.




An Iraqi policeman, right, and an American Military police officer guard the entrance road to an Iraqi police headquarters in Baghdad after a car parked outside the building exploded injuring a unknown number of bystanders Tuesday Sept. 2, 2003. The Iraqi police said there were also a few U.S. military police in a nearby police academy as trainers for Iraqi police. No Americans were hurt in the incident according to Iraqi police. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)




Lt Colonel Tim Collins, the former commanding officer of the 1st Battalion, Royal Irish Regiment, is seen here in this March 2003, file photo. Collins has been cleared of mistreating prisoners of war in Iraq (news - web sites), the Ministry of Defence said Monday Sep. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/pool)



A U.S. soldier of the 3rd Brigade (66th regiment) of the Fourth Infantry Division carries artillery shells for T-55 tanks, at an ammunition dump belonging to the former Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) north of Tikrit, September 1, 2003. U.S.-led occupying forces may have failed to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (news - web sites), but there has been no such shortage of Saddam's conventional weapons and ammunition, which are frequently being looted by the locals. REUTERS/Arko Datta



Captain John Cecalupo of the 3rd Brigade (66th regiment) of the Fourth Infantry Division carries his subordinate, who was promoted during a ceremony at a U.S. army camp north of Tikrit, September 1, 2003. Promoted soldiers are jestfully carried by Cecalupo around other soldiers as sign of appreciation for their work during the war in Iraq (news - web sites). REUTERS/Arko Datta



Taliban fighters put up stiff resistance on August 31, 2003 as Afghan and U.S. forces backed by artillery, jet fighters and attack helicopters continued to hunt hundreds of militants, an official said. Khalil Hotak, intelligence chief in the southern province of Zabul where the battle entered its seventh day, said 14 Taliban guerrillas were killed on Saturday, taking the ousted Islamic militia's reported losses since Monday to more than 90. Also, two U.S. soldiers were killed near their base at Shkin, in the eastern province of Paktika a few miles from the Pakistani border.


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[hendrix33]

Great collection of photos.

Is this IMI's Galil ?
If so, the magazine seems peculiar. Could it me be export 7.62mm version ?

[He219]

Thanks, hendrix33!

You mean this kind IMI produced 7.62 NATO magazine:



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Galil Sniper Rifle (GALAT'Z) (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/gsr/gsr.htm) - a 7.62 mm sniper version of the Galil. The weapons is used by the Israeli CT units.


WASHINGTON, 15 June 2003 — The export of Israeli weapons and military services has made this tiny Mideast country one of the world’s top arms suppliers. In 2002 transfers of Israeli defense technology and know-how totaled $4.18 billion, ranking it fifth only to the United States, the European Union, Russia, and Japan in weapons exports. The previous year, Israel’s arms exports totaled just $2.5 billion.

Colombia also co-produces Galil rifles in Bogota under licence

p-)

[hendrix33]

Roger.

[atnadastra]

Lt Colonel Tim Collins, the former commanding officer of the 1st Battalion, Royal Irish Regiment, is seen here in this March 2003, file photo. Collins has been cleared of mistreating prisoners of war in Iraq (news - web sites), the Ministry of Defence said Monday Sep. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/pool)


I'm so glad Lt. Col. Tim Collins was cleared of those charges (I kinda figured he would be). His pre-battle speech to his men was one of the best I've read in a long while, so I'll re-quote it here:


The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his Nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction. There are many regional commanders who have stains on their souls and they are stoking the fires of Hell for Saddam. He and his forces will be destroyed by this coalition for what they have done. As they die they will know their deeds have brought them to this place. Show them no pity.

We go to liberate, not to conquer. We will not fly our flags in their country. We are entering Iraq to free a people, and the only flag that will be flown in that ancient land is their own. Show respect for them. Don’t treat them as refugees, for they are in their own country.

It is a big step to take another human life. It is not to be done lightly. I know men who have taken life needlessly in other conflicts. They live with the mark of Cain upon them. If someone surrenders to you, then remember they have that right in international law, and ensure that one day they go home to their family. The ones who wish to fight, well, we aim to please. If there are casualties of war, then remember, when they woke up and got dressed in the morning they did not plan to die this day. Allow them dignity in death. Bury them properly, and mark their graves.

There are some who are alive at this moment who will not be alive shortly. Those who do not wish to go on that journey, we will not send. As for the others I expect you to rock their world. Wipe them out if that is what they choose. But if you are ferocious in battle remember to be magnanimous in victory.

If you harm the regiment or its history by over-enthusiasm in killing or in cowardice, know it is your family who will suffer. You will be shunned unless your conduct is of the highest, for your deeds will follow you down through history. We will bring shame on neither our uniform or our nation.

Iraq is steeped in history. It is the site of the Garden of Eden, of the Great Flood and the birthplace of Abraham. Tread lightly there. You will see things that no man could pay to see and you will have to go a long way to find a more decent, generous and upright people than the Iraqis. You will be embarrassed by their hospitality even though they have nothing. Don't treat them as refugees for they are in their own country. Their children will be poor, in years to come they will know that the light of liberation in their lives was brought by you.

It is my foremost intention to bring every single one of you out alive but there may be people among us who will not see the end of this campaign. We will put them in their sleeping bags and send them back. There will be no time for sorrow.

As for ourselves, let's bring everyone home and leave Iraq a better place for us having been there. Our business now, is north.

[REMOV]

Is this IMI's Galil ?You've right it seems to be 7,62mm IMI Galil SAR ;)



But Colombia also produces their own Galils - 5,56mm Indumil Galil Modelo A.R. in Fábrica José María Córdova in the Indumil Company. Check this: http://www.indumil.gov.co/cordova.htm site for details.

5,56mm Indumil Galil Modelo A.R.

[Rantanplan]

Why is the Galil not longer the standart assault rifle of of the IDF?
As far I know its a improved Version of the Kalashnikov Familiy.
So it should be the perfect Weapon.
Whats wrong with it?

[Bulkowski]

Why is the Galil not longer the standart assault rifle of of the IDF?
As far I know its a improved Version of the Kalashnikov Familiy.
So it should be the perfect Weapon.
Whats wrong with it?
It's not Russian, that's the problem :lol:

[thatguy96]

The major complaints with the Galil weapon system were that it was too heavy and that its accuracy was sub-par when compared to AR-15/M16 variants. In addition, sniper variants have also been shown to have sub-par accuracy to M14 based systems, and also have concealment problems (surrounding their lack of any integral noise or sound reduction, and the fact that the exstractor throws the casings some 40 feet forward and to the right, further exposing position).

The portions usually left out of the story is that:

1) The Galil's deployment was slightly delayed, by which time the M16A1 had started to appear, with most elite Israeli units using them, with only a handful choosing to retain the Galil. The Galil had little to no time to prove itself at all in anything else than everyday use.

2) The since the Galil is made in Israel, by IMI, with no US connection, the weapons cannot be purchased using US military aid (which are essentially huge checks with the stipulation that the systems purchased by at least part American made...one can see the economic logic in this whether one agrees with it or not). While there exist easily dismissable rumors of a US IMI plant, it remains a matter of practicality to purchase M16s. Its simply stupid to think that any government would NOT take handouts of halfway decent weapons as opposed to actually buying those of undecided effectiveness. The current plans to equip the IDF with the Tavor are running into the same issue, and it appears, unless there is some major shift in the US aid packages, that US aid maybe the undoing of the Israeli small-arms industry.

The Galil doesn't exactly have the most stunning service record either, and with little or no chance of adoption, most of the upgrade attempts were downplayed. The fact that the Bernardelli VB and VB-SR (Italian Galil and Galil SAR copies respectively) have shown to be much better (especially with the addition of a STANAG magwell and a the ability to mount the M203, something the Galil originally did not have) show that upgrades to the system CAN be done, and the can produce better weapons.

Columbia, South Africa, and Italy, as well as, IMI, continue to produce Galils of one form or another, while IMI appears to be rapidly shifting away from anything more to do with the Galil after the disasterous field tests of the Magal, which appeared to be a quite practical system.

[hendrix33]

Why is the Galil not longer the standart assault rifle of of the IDF?
As far I know its a improved Version of the Kalashnikov Familiy.
So it should be the perfect Weapon.
Whats wrong with it?

Well, thatguy26 actually gave a great answer. Main reason is it can't be bought with US aid dollars.

The artillery corps, and the armoured corps still use the Galil. I've fired it and it's a great weapon. Main problems of it are weight of the gun and the magazines, and the fact the sight moves a little every time you disassemble it.

The Galil was developed after 67' six days war where infantry soldiers in the Egyptian front encountered troubles operating their personal weapons in the sands of the Sinai desert. This caused the planners to focues their effort on the reliability aspect, which they did, concentrating on operation in tough conditions.

Lately I've read in the papers IDF is going to buy a certain amout of IMI's Tavor bullpop ARs, after the original purchase was canceled about a year ago, due to budget cuts resulting in Israel's severe economic crisis. This is a step taken to prevent bunkrupcy for IMI's small arms factory.

[He219]

Recent Galil pic's from Colombia:



Colombian soldiers patrol a street in Calamar in Guaviare province, August 30, 2003. Colombian army took the control of Calamar, a strategic town amid the jungle after 40 years of the FARC rebels control, Army said. REUTERS/Daniel Munoz



Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe speaks during the 25th annual March of Solidarity in Bogota, Colombia, Sunday Aug. 31, 2003. Thousands of people attended the annual march that collects money for social programs. The march is held each year to promote solidarity among Colombians. (AP Photo/ Javier Galeano)




Other Pictures for Today:


That one makes me dizzy...

Military soldiers march in front of Mexico's President Vicente Fox during the Military Academy's graduation ceremony Tuesday Sept. 2, 2003, in Mexico City. President Fox ousted two Cabinet secretaries Tuesday, a day after admitting that many Mexicans were disappointed with his government. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)




Army special forces march in front of Mexico's President Vicente Fox during the Military Academy's graduation ceremony Tuesday Sept. 2, 2003, in Mexico City.



The Deputy Chiefs of the Australian Navy, Rear-Admiral Rowan Moffatt (L) and Rear-Admiral Kevin Scarce (R) talk to the Australian Minister of Defence, Robert Hill (C). Australia has said it would support a new UN resolution to send troops to Iraq (news - web sites).(AFP/file/William West)



Australian Prime Minister John Howard (L) inspects illegal weapons collected by the Australian-led intervention force during his one-day visit to the strife-torn capital of Honiara in the Solomon Islands. Howard has been damaged by allegations his government was behind the jailing of right wing politician Pauline Hanson, a new poll found.(AFP/Auspic/Peter West)




Palestinians carry a man injured by the Israeli army in the West Bank town of Jenin. Israeli police is faulted (http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-womide023438218sep02,0,1122239.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines) in Orr Commission report on 2000 rioting that blames top officials and finds 'prejudice, neglect'.(AFP/Saif Dahlah)




A lawyer for Jonathan Pollard, a former U.S. Navy (news - web sites) intelligence analyst who admitted spying for Israel, argued on September 2, 2003 that his 1987 sentence of life in prison should be set aside because he received ineffective assistance of counsel. Arrested in 1985 outside the Israeli Embassy in Washington and sentenced for selling tens of thousands of pages of classified U.S. information to Israel. Pollard is seen in this 1991 file photo. Photo by Reuters xxx/REUTERS



This is an undated handout photo of Ron Arad, an Israeli airman who was shot down over Sidon, Lebanon, on Oct. 16, 1986 and captured by Lebanese guerrillas. Israeli experts have concluded there is no evidence that Arad is dead, Israeli TV reported Tuesday Sept. 2, 2003. The report comes at a time when German mediators are trying to arrange for an exchange of prisoners and information between Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah. (AP Photo/FILE)



A US soldier mans a Humvee turret as he patrols Baghdad. Two US military police officers were killed when their vehicle struck an explosive device on the main supply route to Baghdad.(AFP/File/Ahmad Al-Rubaye)


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U.S. Army Spc. Chad Anderson of South Dakota from the 14th Engineering Battalion of the 4th Infantry Division patrols the Tigris River on a military boat near one of ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s palaces, now a U.S. Army base, in Tikrit, about 110 miles, 180 kilometers, northwest of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Tuesday Sept. 2, 2003. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)



Nicaraguan soldiers of a special squadron draped in camouflage gear run during a celebration for the 24th anniversary of the Nicaraguan army at a military base some 15 kilometers (9 miles) west of Managua, Nicaragua on Tuesday, Sept. 2, 2003. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)



Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force Type-90 and Type-74 armoured tanks fire during a drill at Higashifuji training field near Mt. Fuji in central Japan, August 30, 2003. About 2,000 military personnel took part in the annual exercise which is open to the public. REUTERS/Kimimasa Mayama



Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force Type-90 and Type-74 armored tanks fire during a drill at the Higashifuji training field near Mt Fuji in central Japan, August 30, 2003. About 2,000 military personnel took part in the annual exercise which is open for viewing to the public. REUTERS/Kimimasa Mayama



Soldiers from Japanese Ground Self Defense Forces wearing anti-chemical and biological gear spray neutralizer on acid poured out of a "damaged" truck during an anti-disaster drill in Tokyo. More than 1.3 million people across Japan held anti-disaster drills on the 80th anniversary of the 1923 earthquake (news - web sites) that devastated Tokyo, killing over 140,000 people, with memories of recent major quakes, a deadly typhoon and torrential rain still fresh.(AFP/file/Kazuhiro Nogi)

[He219]

The latest:



A soldier guards a handover ceremony in the old amphitheatre in Babylon , Iraq, Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. The top U.S. commander in Iraq on Wednesday symbolically marked the transfer of control over the south-central part of the country to an international force led by Poland, hailing the handover as a sign of the international community's commitment to Iraq. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)



Guarded by a Polish Special Forces soldier, upper left, U.S. Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez talks with media after a handover ceremony in the old amphitheater in Babylon, Iraq, Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. The top U.S. commander in Iraq on Wednesday symbolically marked the transfer of control over the south-central part of the country to an international force led by Poland, hailing the handover as a sign of the international community's commitment to Iraq. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)



Polish (front row)) and American soldiers hold flags during a handover ceremony in the old amphitheater in Babylon, September 3, 2003. U.S. Marines handed over control of a patch of central Iraq on Wednesday to a Polish-led multinational force in a ceremony in ancient Babylon. REUTERS/Peter Andrews





U.S. Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez (R) and Polish Major General Andrzej Tyszkiewicz salute during a handover ceremony in the old amphitheater in Babylon, September 3, 2003. U.S. Marines handed over control of a patch of central Iraq on Wednesday to a Polish-led multinational force in a ceremony in ancient Babylon. REUTERS/Peter Andrews




U.S. Army Lt. Col. David Poirier, commander of the 720th Military Police Battalion, center, walks as his soldiers surround a house during a joint raid with Iraqi police forces in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. U.S. military police, working with Iraqi police, raided three farm houses in a search for weapons and opposition suspects. The idea is to get the Iraqi police up front and get them to handle the raids, said Poirier, commander of the 720th Battalion of U.S. military police in Tikrit. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)



U.S. Army soldiers from the 720th Military Police Battalion search a house during a joint raid with Iraqi police forces in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. U.S. Military Police, working with Iraqi police, raided three farm houses in a search for weapons and opposition suspects. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)



U.S. Army Spc. Troy Rander, left, and other members of the 720th Military Police Battalion search a house during a joint raid with Iraqi police forces in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. U.S. Military Police, working with Iraqi police, raided three farm houses in a search for weapons and opposition suspects. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)



U.S. Army Spc. Kenneth Olsen of Minnesota from the 720th Military Police Battalion, right, uses a mine detector to find buried ammunitions during a joint raid with Iraqi police forces in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. U.S. Military Police, working with Iraqi police, raided three farm houses in a search for weapons and opposition suspects. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)















French troops stand guard as a truck is loaded in a plane in Bunia , Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003, as French leave Bunia. The European Union-led emergency force formally transferred control of military operations in the troubled northeastern Congo on Monday. The change marks the end of deployment of the French force that arrived in June to stem tribal fighting in which 50,000 people were killed and more than half a million displaced. (AP Photo/Sayyid Azim)




Dock side workers inspect the newly-equipped screw propeller of the USS air carrier Kitty Hawk at the U.S. naval base in Yokosuka, south of Tokyo, September 3, 2003. The Kitty Hawk is being repaired following its return to the naval base on May 6, after participating in military operations of the U.S.-led war on Iraq. REUTERS/Issei Kato

[hood]

Is it just me or did Polish Major General Andrzej Tyszkiewicz just give the boy scout salute? The one in Afghanistan is from a while back actually. Here's a high res version for anyone who's interested, as it's a great photo:

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Operation_Mongoose&id=730576_G

[He219]

Haha, I noticed the same thing!!

:D

I really like the cave shot in Afghanistan...

[Rantanplan]

Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force Type-90 and Type-74 armored tanks fire during a drill at the Higashifuji training field near Mt Fuji in central Japan, August 30, 2003. About 2,000 military personnel took part in the annual exercise which is open for viewing to the public. REUTERS/Kimimasa Mayama



Is this an M1A1 Abrams?

[He219]

Polish soldiers attend a handover ceremony in the old amphitheatre in Babylon, Iraq, Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. The top U.S. commander in Iraq on Wednesday symbolically marked the transfer of control over the south-central part of the country to an international force led by Poland, hailing the handover as a sign of the international community's commitment to Iraq. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)



U.S. 76th Army band plays during a handover ceremony in the old amphitheater in Babylon, Wednesday Sept. 3, 2003. The top U.S. commander in Iraq on Wednesday symbolically marked the transfer of control over the south-central part of the country to an international force led by Poland, hailing the handover as a sign of the international community's commitment to Iraq. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)





Gen. James L. Jones, the commander of U.S. forces in Europe, center, and Turkish Chief of Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok, right, inspect an honour guard in Ankara on Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. Gen. Jones met with Turkey's military leaders to discuss plans for an Iraq peacekeeping force that could include several thousand Turkish soldiers. (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)




The Qinetiq 1 balloon is deflated aboard the launch ship RV Triton off the St. Ives coastline in Cornwall, England, Wednesday Sept 3, 2003. The balloon launch, in which two British balloon pilots Colin Prescot and Andy Elson hoped to break the balloon altitude world record, was cancelled after the balloon suffered a technical fault shortly before lift-off. (AP Photo/Richard Lewis)



Visitors walk in a dry-dock to see the 86,000-ton U.S. aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk as the 3-and-a-half month maintenance work is close to its completion Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003 at Yokosuka Naval Base in Yokosuka, south of Tokyo. The Kitty Hawk, that returned to Yokosuka, the Seventh Fleet's home port, May 6 after spending more than 100 days at sea during the Iraq war, is scheduled to deploy later this fall. (AP Photo/Koji Sasahara)



Rantanplan:

Check Here (http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Asie/Japon/vehicules_lourds/Type_90/Type90_Japon_diaporama.htm) for more info on the Japanese Type 90 MBT, some say the most electronically modern tank to date...

[Seraphim]

Sorry if these 2 are repeats, Im on 56k right now.



U.S soldiers search the terrace of a house during a raid in Tikrit, about 110 miles northwest of Baghdad September 3, 2003. A 'brutally honest' report prepared for the U.S. military Joint Chiefs of Staff blames post-war unrest in Iraq (news - web sites) on hurried, inadequate planning before the invasion, defense officials said. Photo by Arko Datta/Reuters




U.S. soldiers question a woman about her husband during a raid on a house in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad, September 3, 2003. U.S. soldiers of the 720 Military Police battalion along with Iraqi police stormed a house in Tikrit looking for a close associate of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites). The U.S. army said that the man they were looking for was most likely also a member of the secret service (news - web sites) of the ousted Saddam regime. The man was not found during the raid. REUTERS/Arko Datta

[Herrmannek]

Is it just me or did Polish Major General Andrzej Tyszkiewicz just give the boy scout salute?


Just You. This is the Polish Army way of saluting. We also don't salute if our head is not covered with helemt or hat. In this situation saluting soldier stands in atention and turns head in direction of person to whom he is saluting without hand move. So don't be sad if polish soldier will not salute to you in US army way :)

[tony6]

Yeah-it's a tradition.
I heard that it came from a soldier saluting with two of his fingers being shot off during the battle. But I'm not sure of that.
And I don't know when it took place-there was so many battles and wars in our history-but it was before WW2.

[REMOV]

Yeah-it's a tradition.
I heard that it came from a soldier saluting with two of his fingers being shot off during the battle. But I'm not sure of that.There are several version describing origuns of Polish military salute:
- artilleryman salute after Battle of Olszynka Grochowska (November Uprising 1830-1), guy hadn't two fingers. Then, like a new fashion the salute stays. Another versoins says, that it was a knight after the Battle of Grunwald (14 April 1410),
- Kosciuszko Uprising, the other legend says, that T. Kosciuszko had a problem with a hand (some hand paralysis) during a Cracowian Oath (24 March 1794), so he had to salute in this way. Other vesions says that salute represent the unity of three part of Poland after Annexation.

Poles want to had their own salute during Annexation times to identify each other, and distinguish from other nations.

[REMOV]

Is it just me or did Polish Major General Andrzej Tyszkiewicz just give the boy scout salute?The Boy Scout salute is a little bit different, they uses THREE not TWO fingers like Polish soldiers. But you're right, they are similar (and Gen. Tyszkiewicz a little bit looks like old version of a Boy Scout ;) )

[He219]

I just watched 'The Eagle Has Landed' last night and they did the Polish salute in the movie... :P


I'll start posting more thumb views for those on 56 gay moden:



U.S. Army military police open the door of a mosque during a raid on August 29, 2003 near Baghdad, Iraq. Iraqi police entered the mosque alongside U.S. forces to search for suspected illegal weapons and persons wanted for questioning. Conceding it needs international help in Iraq, the United States opened a campaign on September 3, 2003 for a new United Nations resolution that would encourage countries to contribute troops and money. "We are asking the international community to join us," U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell told reporters. REUTERS/Robert R. Hargreaves Jr./U.S. Air Force


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BAGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan -- Senior Airman Jodi Brown, 455th Expeditionary Security Forces Squadron M-60 machine gun operator, scans the horizon on a random perimeter check here. Hostile encounters are likely on the edge of the base. Air Force security forces work with the Army to secure the base. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Russell Wicke)



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BAGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan -- Senior Airman Zane Aguilar (right) practices a defensive posture behind an armored Humvee as Staff Sgt. Alan Clontz calls in on the radio. The airmen are assigned to the 455th Expeditionary Security Forces Squadron here. Hostile encounters are likely on the perimeter of the base here. Air Force security forces work with the Army to secure the base. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Russell Wicke)



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030826-N-9455K-023 Camp Moreell, Kuwait (Aug 26, 2003) -- Gunner's Mate 3rd Class Christopher Arland, foreground, and Gunner's Mate 2nd Class Michael Martin, assigned to Naval Mobile Construction Battalion Seven (NMCB 7), stand watch over a gold plated SVD rifle once owned by Uday Hussein at Camp Moreell, Kuwait. U.S. Navy photo by Journalist 1st Class Lisa Keding. (RELEASED)




US Marines pass in their military vehicle a painting depicting the late Iraqi Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Sadeq Sadr during a patrol in the heart of Kufa, near the holy city of Najaf in central Iraq (news - web sites)(AFP/Karim Sahib )




On patrol in Kabul



SSgt Dave Grice, squad leader from C Company, 2nd Battalion, Royal Anglican Regiment, leads a patrol through a village in Kabul, Afghanistan August 24, 2003.



Private Lee Walters, from C Company, 2 Battalion, Royal Anglican Regiment, covers up for a mobile and foot patrol in Afghanistan. The squad conducts regular patrols in parts of Kabul, usually a get-to-know the people, places, etc.




Mr. Charles Goerens, Luxembourg Minister of Defence, and Mr. Andre Flahout, Belguim Minister of Defence, visit troops in the Biergarten at ISAF Headquarters in Kabul, Afghanistan August 26, 2003.

[to free the oppressed]

ok two things 1.How do you get a image on here.2.Soldiers with the flages what coutry do they represent.

[Dave the Dawg]

If you mean these:



they are the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Hungary, Kazakhstan and Latvia.

As for these:



they are Latvia, Lithuania, Mongolia, Poland, the United States, the USMC, Slovakia (?), Honduras, Norway and the Philippines.

The Polish honor guard in the foreground here has the Polish national and army flags:



Dave

[He219]

ok two things 1.How do you get a image on here.2.Soldiers with the flages what coutry do they represent.
1) use the function to post.
2) don't understand flages(?), nevermind (see above) :]

p-)


Today's pic's:


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Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov dressed in Air Force uniform speaks during the large-scale military exercises in Vladivostok in this Monday, August, 25, 2003 photo. The sign on the Ivanov's jacket reads: Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov. Ivanov said Thursday during Russian military maneuvers in the southern Astrakhan region that Russia may send peacekeepers to Iraq as part of an international force."It all depends on a specific resolution. I wouldn't not exclude it outright," Interfax quoted him as saying. (AP Photo/ Str)


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Planning their own Iraq strategy (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20030904/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_iraq)...

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, left, and French President Jacques Chirac pose for photographers upon arrival at Dresden Airport, eastern Germany, Thursday, Sept. 4, 2003. The two leaders meet for German-French consultations in the city of Dresden to discuss ways to respond the recent acts of violence in Iraq and the Middle East. (AP Photo/Eckehard Schulz)



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This video grab image shot with a nightscope shows U.S. soldiers walking down a Tikrit street late on September 3, 2003, following a mortar attack on a U.S. military base in the Iraqi town. U.S. troops battled Iraqi guerrillas who fired mortars near their base, then raided homes to detain suspected bomb-makers in a night of drama around Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit.


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Some of the 21-members of the Thai humanitarian aid troops, an advanced unit for Iraq, board a U.S. military transport plane during their departure to Carbala, Iraq at the military airport in Bangkok, Thailand Thursday, Sept. 4, 2003. The 21 Thai soldiers part of the 443-strong unit, including Army engineers, army medical corps and the directorate of civilian affairs from the special Thai-Iraq humanitarian aid unit travelled to Iraq to participate in its reconstruction work on Thursday. (AP Photo/Apichart Weerawong)


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A squadron of U.S. made F16, right, and Taiwanese-made IDF, left, fly in formation as they drop flares during the "Han Kuang 19" exercise, a combined live-fire drill in Lotung, 120 kilometers east of Taipei. The drill, the largest this year, is designed to test the combined services defenses capabilities and the performances of weaponry systems. The all-out defense forces are deployed to simulate China's People Liberation Army operational schemes of cross-Strait operations. Taiwan and China split aftera civil war in 1949 and China has threatened to use force if Taiwan declares independence. (AP Photo/Jerome Favre)



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Bombs dropped by a Taiwanese F16 explode on their targets during the "Han Kuang 19" exercise, a combined live-fire drill in Lotung, 120 kilometers (75 miles) east of Taipei. The drill, the largest this year, is designed to test the combined services defense capabilities and the performance of weaponry systems. The all-out defense forces are deployed to simulate China's People Liberation Army operational schemes of cross-Strait operations. Taiwan and China split after a civil war in 1949 and China has threatenedto use force if Taiwan declares independence. (AP Photo/Jerome Favre)



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A Drug Enforcement Administracion (DEA) special agent runs to a US Army helicopter during a training exercise Wednesday Sept. 3, 2003, at the Cerro Redondo farm, 50 km ( 31 miles) southeast of Guatemala City. US authorities has resumed cooperation with Guatemala on antinarcotics operations. (AP Photo/Sergio De Leon)



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Drug Enforcement Administracion (DEA) special agents, left, give instructions to a Guatemalan antinarcotics task force during a training exercise Wednesday Sept. 3, 2003, at the Cerro Redondo farm, 50 km (31 miles) southeast of Guatemala City. US authorities have resumed cooperation with Guatemala on antinarcotics operations. (AP Photo/Sergio De Leon)



By a vote (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/04/international/asia/04KORE.html?th) of 687 to 0, the Supreme People's Assembly of North Korea today re-elected the "Dear Leader," Kim Jong Il, to his most important post, chairman of the National Defense Commission. Mr. Kim has been North Korea's leader since 1994, when his father died. He ran unopposed, winning a new five-year term, "reflecting the unanimous will and desire of all the servicemen and the people," according to the Korean Central News Agency.


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South Korean lawmaker Lee Mee-kyong (bottom-L), from the ruling Millennium Democratic Party's (MDP) reform-driven group, is assaulted by a member from MDP's conservative old guard group at the party's headquarters in Seoul, September 4, 2003. The reformers and conservative members met on Thursday to reach a consensus on ways to create a new party which can secure political reform, but the reform-driven members faced the conservative's objection to putting the future course of the party to a single vote. KOREA OUT NO ARCHIVE REUTERS/Lee Ki-Won/Chosun Ilbo


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US Army Captain Tim Barnard examines an unidentified Muslim girl, Wednesday, Sept 3, 2003 at a clinic in Wajir in northeastern Kenya. More than three dozen U.S. troops are working in Wajir doing medical and veterinary work which is populated primarily by ethnic Somalis, who are Muslim. The US soldiers are based in Djibouti, a tiny Horn of Africa nation that since last year has been home to the headquarters of a U.S.-led task force leading the war on terrorism in eastern Africa. (AP Photo/Karel Prinsloo)


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Searching Afghani Detainees


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Britain is considering sending more troops to Iraq (news - web sites) as security deteriorates and attacks mount on its forces. Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon has ordered a review of troop levels, his ministry said, as concerns grow that British forces in the south of the country are becoming over-stretched. An Iraqi policeman and British soldiers patrol the streets of Basra, August 24. Photo by Suhaib Salem/Reuters



A Spanish soldier walks by tanks at the Spanish camp on the US base in Diwaniyah. Spanish troops are likely to remain in Iraq (news - web sites) serving with an international force for at least two to three years(AFP/Karim Sahib)



A Spanish soldier stands to attention at a ceremony where US Marines handed over control of Ad Diwaniyah Province to the Spanish Brigade(AFP/File/Maxim Marmur)


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Major Bryan Luke of 122 Infantry battalion of the fourth division of the U.S. army displays a bomb-making kit confiscated during a raid in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad, September 4, 2003. An Iraqi bomb-maker along with two other accomplices were arrested in the early hours of Thursday during the overnight raid in Tikrit. REUTERS/Arko Datta



An Israeli soldier holds an Israeli flag during a commemoration ceremony attended by 200 Israeli Army soldiers at the former Nazi Death camp Auschwitz Birkenau, southern Poland, Thursday Sept. 4, 2003. During the ceremony three Israeli F-15 jets flew over (http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/968390/posts) Birkenau. (AP Photo/Alik Keplicz)


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US-led coalition Special Operation Forces and 10th Mountain Division troops backed by aircraft had Saturday launched a fresh offensive in the Daychopan area, dubbed Operation Mountain Viper(AFP/File/Mikhail Metzel)



A major joint Afghan-US offensive against hundreds of suspected Taliban dug into the mountains of southeast Afghanistan (news - web sites) has finished with around 124 militants killed(AFP/File/Mikhail Metzel)

[Gringo]

What r those green strips on this guys SA80?
To me, they seem to be some sort of cover for those little holes/vents (whatever u call them) on the SA80 that is said to be a problem as dirt and dust can easily get in there.

[Argyll]

Maybe velcro for attaching a torch or something,covering up intended holes is not a good idea!!!

[MolliG]

Is this an M1A1 Abrams?


No, it's a Type 90, and those in the background look like Type 74s (well they could be Type 90s but the turret looks 'rounder', but that could just be the camoflauge). The Type 90 is "produced by a consortium of manufacturers with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries as the prime contractor". :)

Some pictures:
Type 90
http://afvid.topcities.com/specs/Q-T/type-90_japan.jpg
http://afvid.topcities.com/specs/Q-T/type-90-japan-4.jpg
http://afvid.topcities.com/specs/Q-T/type-90-japan-3.jpg
http://afvid.topcities.com/specs/Q-T/type-90-japan-2.jpg

Type 74
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/images/type-74-so13b.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/images/type-74_tk-01m.jpg

:D

[Rantanplan]

Thanks He219 and MolliG :D

The Japanese Forces are realy a new Terrain for Me :oops:

This type 90 Tank is realy not Bad
(Notice the Markings on the Turret! Reminds me on the US Bombers
during WW2. Cool)

[Gringo]

Maybe velcro for attaching a torch or something,covering up intended holes is not a good idea!!!

Why?

[thatguy96]

This type 90 Tank is realy not Bad
In terms of combat capability the Type 90 is quite good. The real problem is that so far only the JSDF uses the Type 90...so the unit cost is THROUGH THE ROOF, meaning that they're not going to secure any export sales anytime soon, especially if most of the groups currently in the business of purchasing tanks from abroad are quite fine with uprated T-72's, M60's, and things like the Brazilian Osorio.

[He219]

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A Taiwanese Perry Class frigate launches a Hsiung Feng 2 surface-to-air missile at a target drone during the "Han Kuang 19" exercise, a combined live-fire drill in Lotung, 120 kilometers east of Taipei. The drill, the largest this year, is designed to test the combined services defenses capabilities and the performances of weaponry systems. The all-out defense forces are deployed to simulate China's People Liberation Army operational schemes of cross-Strait operations. Taiwan and China split after a civil war in 1949 and China has threatened to use force if Taiwan declares independence. (AP Photo/Frank Sun)


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Indian army soldiers take positions during a gunbattle with suspected Islamic militants at Ghati, about 85 kilometers (53 miles) southeast of Jammu, India, Thursday, Sept. 4, 2003. Ten soldiers have been wounded since fighting began on Aug. 2 with militants hidden in the thick forests and tall wild grass. (AP Photo/Channi Anand)


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Indian army soldiers rest during a gunbattle with Islamic militants at Ghati, about 85 kilometers, 53 miles, southeast of Jammu, India, Thursday, Sept. 4, 2003. Ten soldiers have been wounded since fighting began Tuesday with militants hidden in the thick forests and tall wild grass. (AP Photo/Channi Anand)


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A British soldier directs another in a fork lift as they move headstones to reconstruct the British War cemetery Thursday Sept. 4, 2003 in the southern Iraqi town of Basra which was originally placed between the years of 1914 and 1920. Britain's Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon has ordered a review of British troop levels in Iraq following weeks of heightened insecurity, but Prime Minister Tony Blair said Thursday that there has been no decision to send additional forces. (AP Photo/Nabeel Al-Jurani)


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A British soldier plays soccer with a group of Iraqis in an empty field in the southern Iraqi city of Basra Thursday Sept. 4, 2003. Britain's Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon has ordered a review of British troop levels in Iraq following weeks of heightened insecurity, but Prime Minister Tony Blair said Thursday that there has been no decision to send additional forces. (AP Photo/Nabeel Al-Jurani)


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Britain is considering sending more troops to Iraq as security deteriorates and attacks mount on its forces. Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon has ordered a review of troop levels, his ministry said, as concerns grow that British forces in the south of the country are becoming over-stretched. An Iraqi policeman and British soldiers patrol the streets of Basra, August 24.


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Canadian 3RCR Battlegroup walk down from their last hilltop in the Mountains near Kabul, Afghanistan, Thursday, Sept 4, 2003. The Canadian Reconnaissance platoon spent three days searching for insurgents and mountain routes into Kabul.(AP PHOTO/Tom Hanson)


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An Israeli tank blocks Gaza Strip's main north-south road, while nearby soldiers and armored vehicles surrounds two adjacent buildings looking for a suspect, near Gush Katif settlement, southern Gaza Strip, Thursday, Sept. 4, 2003. According to witnesses, troops fired tear gas and stun grenades at Palestinians who gathered after the checkpoint was closed. (AP Photo/Yakoub Galowa)


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LUNGI, Sierra Leone -- An HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopter with the 56th Rescue Squadron, Naval Air Station Keflavik, Iceland, is loaded onto a C-5 Galaxy from the 301st Airlift Squadron, Travis Air Force Base, Calif. The 398th Air Expeditionary Group is currently in Sierra Leone and Senegal to support efforts in Liberia. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Justin D. Pyle)


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PLOVDIV, Bulgaria -- Staff Sgt. Justin Neiderhofer marshalls a Slovenian Antonov 26 cargo aircraft (looks like a C130 to me) at Krumovo Airport here Sept. 1 as part of Cooperative Key 2003. Neiderhofer is a crew chief assigned to the 86th Air Mobility Squadron deployed from Ramstein Air Base, Germany. Cooperative Key is a multinational exercise designed to enhance the interoperability of NATO and partner nation air forces through cooperation and familiarization of the organization's procedures. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Marie Cassetty)



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Rhode Island Army National Guard Staff Sgt. Matthew Hayden with the 115th Military Police, draped in a U.S. flag, is hugged upon his return to Rhode Island at T.F. Green Airport in in Warwick, R.I., Thursday, Sept. 4, 2003. Hayden of Warren, R.I. was injured by a rocket propelled grenade during an ambush on his convoy Aug. 5, 2003, in Iraq (news - web sites), according to the Rhode Island National Gaurd. (AP Photo/Victoria Arocho)

[Lobo]

That's not an An-26 at all!!! Anyway Slovenian Air Force hadn't any An-26 as far as I know. And that flag isn't the Slovenian flag at all. It looks like a French or Romanian flag (I'm not sure about the central stripe's colour).

That is an An-26:


If you have problem with flags:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/flagsoftheworld.html

[Argyll]

Maybe velcro for attaching a torch or something,covering up intended holes is not a good idea!!!

Screaming Eagle wrote

Why?
Because they were there for a reason,the holes are to stop the hanguard from heating up when the barrel gets hot,same reason as the M4 has holes,came reason the SLR had holes,I think its also to do with gasses,and allowing the barrel to stay cooler rather than be encased inside something !

[He219]

That's right, it's the convection cycle.

Iraqi Defense Corps pic's:


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The Iraqi Civil Defence Corps, (ICDC) on patrol in Tikrit, Iraq, Friday, Sept. 5, 2003. Following a three week U.S. training course, Iraqi militia returned to the streets of Saddam Hussein's home town, initially on light patrol and traffic duties. (AP Photo/Rob Griffith)


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US Defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld smiles to US troops deployed in the city of Mosul. Rumsfeld flew into Iraq on an unannounced inspection tour as Washington scrambled to beef up local Iraqi forces and muster international help to supplement the 130,000 US troops in the country.(AFP/Tarik Tinazay)


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US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (seated R) is briefed by his staff prior to arriving in Iraq . Rumsfeld arrived in Baghdad for an unannounced inspection tour as Washington scrambled to beef up local Iraqi forces and muster international help to supplement the 130,000 US troops in the country.(AFP/USAF/HO)


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British soldiers work at the British embassy in Baghdad. Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon is considering whether to beef up British troop levels in Iraq in response to persistant attacks on US and British occupation forces(AFP/File/Rabih Moghrabi)




British MP Ann Clywd looks at plastic bags containing personal belongings at a mass grave in Mahawil, south of Baghdad. Clywd accused France of taking pleasure in the troubles being met by US and British forces in Iraq .(AFP/File/Radu Sigheti)




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Israeli soldiers carry the body of Mohammed Hanbali, local leader of the military wing of the Islamic militant group Hamas, off a stretcher in the West Bank town of Nablus Friday Sept. 5, 2003. Israeli troops exchanged fire with Palestinian militants on Friday, killing Hanbali and arresting three, before blowing up the seven-story apartment building the wanted men were hiding in. An Israeli naval commando (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20030905/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians) was killed and four others were wounded in the gunbattle. (AP Photo/ Nasser Ishtayeh)


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Hamas protesters march through the Jabaliya refugee camp carrying a model depicting an Israeli passenger bus bearing the words, in Arabic 'Hamas anger will burn the Zionist heart' during a rally, Friday, Sept. 5, 2003. Hamas' trademark attack has been to blow up buses loaded with passengers, such as last months suicide bus bomber who killed 19 in Jerusalem. Hebrew writing labels the bus from the Israeli national bus company, and also states 'The people of Israel had better not ride on buses.' (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)


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A Palestinian protester walks out of a burning mock Israeli bus during a demonstration held by Hamas in Jabalia, north of Gaza City.(AFP/Mohammed Abed)


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Canadian Foreign Minister Bill Graham (2-L) inspects Canadian peace-keeping troops from the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Kabul.(AFP/Shah Marai)


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Canadian 3RCR Battlegroup Master Bombardier Morris McGarrigle from Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada, shelters himself from a German resupply helicopter as it lands on a hilltop in the mountains near Kabul, Afghanistan Thursday, Sept. 4, 2003. The Canadian reconnaissance platoon spent three days searching for insurgents and mountain routes into Kabul. (AP Photo/Canadian Press, Tom Hanson)


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The U.S. military said on September 5, 2003 it was pursuing remnants of a large Taliban force in the mountains of southeastern Afghanistan after killing 70 to 100 of them in more than a week of fighting.


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US soldiers on patrol in Afghanistan . US troops were hunting down fleeing Taliban fighters in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan after a bloody offensive left around 100 militants dead.(AFP/File)



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A Pakistani para-military soldier adjusts his gun at the Pakistani-Afghan border of Chaman, 125 km (78 miles) from Baluchistan's provincial capital of Quetta, September 5, 2003. Security has been beefed up along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan to stop Taliban and al Qaeda ramnents from crossing the border. There has been an increase in attacks on the Afghan and U.S.-led coalition forces in recent months by the Taliban fighters. REUTERS/Rizwan Saeed

[Trigger]

In the fifth picture from the bottom, the caption says 'German resupply helicopter'. To me it looks like a CH-53 variant. Are the Germans using these or do my eyes deceive me?

[He219]

The German Army Aviation Group provides CH-53 transport helicopters. The helicopters are used for Medical Evacuation. Together with the command and the maintenance group they are located at Kabul International Airport.


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I'm not good with helicopter ID. I believe one of their birds crashed early on killing a bunch of dudes...

Hope it helped answer your question.

p-)

[Trigger]

I'm not good with helicopter ID.
At last! we've discovered the one chink in your armor. :D

I never realized the Germans used the 53s. Interesting.

[Trigger]

speaking of helos...

EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. -- Lightning strikes on the horizon behind the flightline here during a thunderstorm Sept. 3. During the storm, power in some areas of the base was interrupted for a few minutes. (U.S. Air Force photo by James Shryne)
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[hood]

that's a wallpaper requirement.. wow.

[He219]

Nice pic, Trigger.

Some pic's for the day...



German troops patrol in Kabul Afghanistan Sunday, Sept.7, 2003. The German troops are part of the NATO-led International Security Force patrolling around the Afghan capital Kabul. (AP Photo/Natacha Pisarenko)




An unidentified German soldier takes a picture during a patrol in Kabul Afghanistan Sunday, Sept. 7, 2003. The German troops are part of the NATO led International Security Force patrolling around the Afghan capital Kabul. (AP Photo/Natacha Pisarenko)



Pedestrians walk past an Afghan soldier carrying a rocket-propelled grenade launcher standing guard in Kabul Afghanistan Sunday, Sept.7, 2003. (AP Photo/Natacha Pisarenko)



American soldier, 31 year-old Staff Sgt. Walter Lee of Spartanburg, South Carolina, from the 4th forward support battalion, 4th infantry division, in Tikrit, Iraq, Sunday, Sept. 7, 2003, drives one of the many support trucks which delivers supplies and maintanance equipment to the U.S. troops and units. The 4th forward batalion is a supply and support unit which is responsible for the maintenance of all vehicels and equipment which includes mechanical, electrical, welding and spare parts for the whole of the 4th infantry division. (AP Photo/Rob Griffith)



Gazing at the wreckage of former apartments and offices, Palestinians discuss the events of the previous day's Israeli helicopter missile strike against Hamas leaders, in Gaza City, Gaza Strip, Sunday, Sept. 7, 2003. According to witnesses, the strike on the building came just as the primary target of the attack, Hamas founder and spiritual leader Sheik Ahmed Yassin, was exiting the building, leaving him with a minor wound. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)
So was it a 550 lb bomb from an F16 or a gunship strike??



An Israeli soldier stands guard as Palestinians walk next to an army checkpoint in the outskirts of the West Bank town of Qalqilya Sunday Sept. 7, 2003. Hamas leaders are "marked for death" and won't have a moment's rest, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon warned Sunday, after Israel botched an attempt to kill the top Hamas echelon with a 250-kilo (550-pound) bomb a warplane dropped on a Gaza City apartment. (AP Photo/ Eitan Hess-Ashkenazi)




An Israeli soldier holds rifle pointing towards a group of Palestinians waiting for an Israeli army check as they ask to leave the West Bank town of Qalqilya Sunday Sept. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/ Eitan Hess-Ashkenazi)



Sargeant Jonathan Cintron of the 401st MPCO of the U.S. Army rests his head on a copy of the Bible during a Sunday service at a U.S. base in Tikrit, northwest of Baghdad, September 7, 2003. Bush prepared to tell Americans they must stay the course in Iraq and to seek more international help against violence illustrated by a missile attack on a plane at Baghdad airport.



Emergency services personnel dressed in thick green chemical protection suits, use a stretcher to simulate the evacuation of a casualty from Bank subway station in the centre of London, Sunday, Sept. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Sean Dempsey/PA pool)



Police officers in chemical suits arrive in the area of Bank Underground station in London Sunday, Sept. 7, 2003 as they stage a simulated terror attack drill in central London. Police and emergency services were involved in a drill in the Square Mile, London's finacial district Sunday, to test how well emergency services would react to a terrorist strike in the capital. (AP Photo/John D McHugh)



British soldiers order an Iraqi man to open the trunk of his car at a checkpoint in the southern Iraqi city of Basra Sunday Sept. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Nabeel Al-Jurani)



BAGHDAD, Iraq Sept. 7— US forces around Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit have uncovered a cache of weapons and ammunition hidden in a row of bunkers residents dubbed the "RPG shopping center," the military said Sunday.The discovery Saturday included wire-guided surface-to-surface Sager missiles, 315 rocket-propelled grenades and 62 mortar shells, said Maj(AFT/***** Images)




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Unidentified guerrillas have fired two missiles at a U.S. transport plane taking off from Baghdad just hours before U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld flew out of Iraq, military officials say. (U.S. Army)



Iraqi children hop on a truck bearing Polish troops, part of the US-led coalition in Iraq (news - web sites), on the perimeter of Camp Babylon prior to the visit by US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld(AFP/Robert Sullivan)



Rumsfeld took a helicopter to the ruins of Babylon to meet with officers and troops of the 21-nation division holding down a large chunk of south-central Iraq (news - web sites)(AFP/Robert Sullivan)



U.S. Defence Minister Donald H. Rumsfeld, left, shakes hands with Polish General Andrzej Tyszkiewicz in Camp Babylon, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, Sept. 6, 2003, when Rumsfeld visited the Poland-run multinational division led by General Tyszkiewicz. The 21-member international force took over command of Iraq's central-southern stabilization zone. (AP Photo/MTI, Attila Peremiczky)



British soldiers of the 2nd Battalion are getting ready to deploy from Akrotiri base to the southern Iraqi city of Basra. Britain's defence ministry announced that an additional 120 troops would be sent to Iraq (news - web sites) to beef up its military contingent in the country.(AFP/HO)


Who are these guys? AK's, Landrover, Bulgarian?

The smoke from a burning U.S. Hunmvee after it had driven over a road side bomb in the crowded Hay al-Jamea in downtwon Mosul, 400 km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, September 6, 2003. The driver of the vehicle was slightly injured in the mid-morning attack. (AP Photo/Omer)



A U.S. Hunmvee is on fire after it had driven over a road side bomb in downtwon Mosul, 400 km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, September 6, 2003. The driver of the vehicle was slightly injured in the mid-morning attack. (AP Photo/Omer)




.S. soldiers arrest an Iraqi men about two hours after a roadside bomb injured a soldier in a Humvee in Mosul, 400 km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, September 6, 2003. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)





Nice M14

U.S. soldiers and Iraqi policemen arrest two Iraqis about two hours after a roadside bomb injured a soldier in a Humvee in Mosul, 400km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, September 6, 2003. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)







Army tanks roll up the national mall in front of government ministries and the Planalto Palace presidency building (background R) during the annual Independence Day parade in Brasilia, September 7, 2003. Brazil celebrated its 181st anniversary of indendence from Portugal. REUTERS/HO/Agencia Brasil/Antonio Cruz



Brazilian (news - web sites) President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva (2nd L) and his wife Marisa (L) applaud military soldiers as they participate in the annual Independence Day parade in Brasilia, September 7, 2003. Vice-President Jose Alencar (2nd R) and his wife Marisa Leticia (R) were in the reviewing stand alongside Lula, as Brazil celebrated its 181st anniversary of indendence from Portugal. REUTERS/HO/Agencia Brasil/Marcello Casal Jr.



CAPTION CORRECTION - CORRECTING CREDIT OF IMAGE Brazilian (news - web sites) Air Force jets fly over the Congress building, along the national mall in the capital, during the Independence Day Parade in Brasilia, September 7, 2003. Brazil celebrated its 181st anniversary of independence from Portugal. REUTERS/HO/Agencia Brasil/Victor Soares

[Seraphim]

Iraqi children hop on a truck carrying Polish troops, part of the US-led coalition in Iraq (news - web sites). President George W. Bush (news - web sites) has called on the UN to put aside "past differences" and appealed even to opponents of the US-led invasion of Iraq for troops and money(AFP/File/Robert Sullivan)



A US soldier reacts to the camera as he patrols a street in Sadr City, home to the largest Shiite community in Baghdad. US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) has called on the UN to put aside "past differences" appealing even to opponents of the US-led invasion of Iraq (news - web sites) for troops and money(AFP/Rabih Moghrabi)
rofl



US troops tow away a damaged American Humvee at the opening of a tunnel in central Baghdad where it, and a second US vehicle, were attacked with explosives Monday Sept. 8, 2003. Two US soldiers were wounded in the attack which damaged two Humvees, one of which turned over and caught fire, according to a military spokesman. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)




US troops survey the damage to an American Humvee at the opening of a tunnel in central Baghdad where it, and a second US vehicle, were attacked with explosives Monday Sept. 8, 2003. Two US soldiers were wounded in the attack which damaged two Humvees, one of which turned over and caught fire, according to a military spokesman. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)




Two Iraqi men are detained for questioning as US troops block the opening of a tunnel in central Baghdad where two US vehicles were attacked with explosives Monday Sept. 8, 2003. One of the damaged vehicles is seen at the mouth of the tunnel. The Iraqi detainees were later released. Two US soldiers were wounded in the attack which damaged two Humvees, one of which turned over and caught fire, according to a military spokesman. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)




A U.S. soldier stands guard next to detainees during an early morning raid by the 1st Battalion (22nd regiment) of the fourth Division of the U.S. army in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad September 8, 2003. U.S. forces arrested four people during raids on homes of suspected Saddam loyalists. REUTERS/Arko Datta




The shadows of U.S. soldiers are cast on a wall as they guard a detainee after an early morning raid by the 1st Battalion (22nd regiment) of the fourth Division of the U.S. army in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad September 8, 2003. U.S. forces arrested four people during raids on homes of suspected Saddam loyalists. REUTERS/Arko Datta






U.S. soldiers take position during an early morning raid by the 1st Battalion (22nd regiment) of the fourth Division of the U.S. army in Tikrit, about 110 miles (180 kilometers) northwest of Baghdad September 8, 2003. U.S. forces arrested four suspected Saddam loyalists during the raid. REUTERS/Arko Datta




























A US soldier photographs road construction during a patrol in Sadr City, home to the largest Shiite community in Baghdad and one of the poorest in the city.(AFP/Rabih Moghrabi)




The United States expects no more than 15,000 foreign troops to be added to an Iraqi occupation force as a result of a proposed new U.N. resolution, Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said September 7, 2003. A group of 21 Thai soldiers walk past a Thai Air Force plane at a military air base in Bangkok as they depart onboard a U.S. military carrier to Iraq (news - web sites), Sept. 4. Photo by Sukree Sukplang/Reuters




British soldiers order an Iraqi man to open the trunk of his car at a checkpoint in the southern Iraqi city of Basra Sunday Sept. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Nabeel Al-Jurani)

[Herrmannek]

Why his barrel is glowing? Was he shooting just before pic was taken? If yes how hot thing must be to be seen like that barrel trough NV gogles?

[Haiw]

baby bradley? :lol:

[hood]

my guess for the barrel glowing would be that it just managed to catch the spotlight of the IR light on the camera. i've had stuff like that happen with my sony handycam with the IR light attached on the top.

[He219]

Haiw, you probably already know that's a 'Wiesel' and it's small enough to fit two inside a CH-53.







You can't do that with a Bradley :P



I like this pic...



Some more of today's pic's...



U.S. Army 101st division 2nd Lt. David Stys patrols a street in Mosul, 400 km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Monday, Sept. 8, 2003. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)



U.S. Army 101st division soldier Scott Bauer and an Iraqi policeman, rear left, patrol a street in Mosul, 400 km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Monday, Sept. 8, 2003. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)




A U.S. Army' 101st division soldier, right, with an Iraqi policemen patrols a street of Mosul, 400 km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Monday, Sept. 8, 2003. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)



U.S. Army 101st Division soldier Brett Evans, 19, sends a E-mail via Internet to his family from one of the U.S. bases in Mosul, 400 km (250 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Monday, Sept. 8, 2003. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)



Spanish soldiers guard the entrance of their base in Diwaniya, in central Iraq (news - web sites). Spain, a key ally backing the US and British-led invasion of Iraq, sent troops in last month to serve under Polish command alongside around 1,200 troops from Central American states.(AFP/Thomas Coex)


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POPE AIR FORCE BASE, N.C. -- First Lt. Nick Radoescu inspects his A-10 Thunderbolt II before a training flight here. He immigrated to America from Romania with his family in 1991. The 25-year-old pilot graduated from the Air Force Academy in 2001. (U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Bob Blauser)


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A Swedish JAS-39 Gripen arrives at Graf Ignatievo Air Base, Bulgaria, Sept. 1, 2003, to participate in Exercise Cooperative Key 2003. Cooperative Key is an international exercise promoting cooperation between NATO and partner nations who conduct peace-keeping operations. DoD photo by Master Sgt. William Johnston, U.S. Air Force. (Released)



Uganda Prime Minster Apollo Robin Nsibambi (R), accompaned by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, reviews honor guards during a welcoming ceremony at the Great Hall of the People, in Beijing, September 8, 2003. Nsibambi is on a six-day visit to China for talks with Chinese leaders on improving bilateral ties. REUTERS/Guang Niu



Suspected Taliban fighters (C) sit blindfolded after they were captured by Afghan and U.S. forces in the Dai Chopan district, in the southern Zabul province, on September 3, 2003. Afghan and U.S. forces have driven Taliban fighters from the Zabul province after nine days of intense bombardment by jet fighters and helicopter gunships and ground attacks, an official said last week. REUTERS/Stringer



A young boy holds a piece of a missile September 8, 2003 after Israeli helicopters fired two missiles at the home of a Hamas militant in Khan Younis, Gaza Strip. Eleven people were wounded during the Sunday attack. Israel launched the latest in a series of missile strikes against Islamic militant groups. Helicopter gunships attacked the home of a member of Hamas's military wing, wounding 15 people, medical workers said. REUTERS/Eric Gaillard



Members of the presidential guard security team practice security drills in Jakarta, September 8, 2003. Security teams trained for the upcoming ASEAN (Association of South East Asian Nations) Summit, which will be held in Bali and is expected to be tight for the October summit, near the site of last year's bomb attack on a popular night club district which left more than 200 people dead. REUTERS/Beawiharta



Nepalese Army soldiers investigate the site of an explosion at an office in Katmandu, Nepal, Monday, Sept. 8, 2003. Suspected Maoist rebels exploded bombs in at least five government offices and a police station in Katmandu Monday that left one dead and seven injured. (AP Photo/Binod Joshi)



Army troops pass in front of the reviewing stand, where Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, his wife and cabinet ministers were watching the annual Independence Day parade, in Brasilia, September 7, 2003. Brazil celebrated its 181st anniversary of indendence from Portugal. REUTERS/Jamil Bittar



Brazilian soldiers parade during Independence Day celebrations in Brasilia, Brazil on Sunday, Sept. 7, 2003. Brazil marked its 181st independence anniversary from Portugal.(AP Photo/Eraldo Peres)

[Trigger]

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[hood]

haha

[Trigger]

You're an evil genius Hood :D

[He219]

Nice one!

Some more photos....



Suspected Taliban insurgents killed five Afghan government troops and wounded two US soldiers in attacks in the south and east of Afghanistan, Afghan and US military officials said Monday. The Afghan troops were patrolling late Sunday in a pickup truck through Kighai mountain gorge in southern Kandahar province when they came under fire, said Haji Granai, a military commander in the provincial capital. (US Army)


Nice pic in the background....


Israel on high alert bracing for retaliatory strikes..


Iraq, no casualties in over a week...

Insurgents broke a period of relative calm with a bomb attack Monday that wounded two US soldiers in Baghdad, while Britain said it would send 1,200 more troops to bolster coalition forces in Iraq ( - )(U.S. Army )








The search for insurgents continues..





An US soldier from the 4th Brigade 11 Cavalry shouts an order to stop at two Iraqi men on a motorcycle at a checkpoint on the edge of Baghdad Monday Sept. 8, 2003. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)



A British soldier stands guard outside the British Embassy in Baghdad Monday Sept. 8, 2003. Britain said Monday that it would send two additional battalions to Iraq, adding 1,200 troops to its 11,000-strong force on the ground in the region around Basra, 450 kilometers (280 miles), southwest of Baghdad. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

[MolliG]

Members of the presidential guard security team practice security drills in Jakarta, September 8, 2003. Security teams trained for the upcoming ASEAN (Association of South East Asian Nations) Summit, which will be held in Bali and is expected to be tight for the October summit, near the site of last year's bomb attack on a popular night club district which left more than 200 people dead. REUTERS/Beawiharta

That looks to me like a vz.61 (http://world.guns.ru/smg/skorpion_vz61-7_65.jpg) (could be a vz.83 (http://world.guns.ru/smg/skorpion_vz83.jpg))... Wouldn't it make more sense to carry say, an MP5K (or any other compact 9mm 'upwards' SMG) or even a regular 9mm pistol, instead of the Skorpion in .32ACP (.380 in the vz.83)? Hmmm... :)

[Seraphim]

An US soldier from the 4th Brigade 11 Cavalry shouts an order to stop at two Iraqi men on a motorcycle at a checkpoint on the edge of Baghdad Monday Sept. 8, 2003. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)




Canadian 3RCR Battlegroup Cpl. Howatt from Halifax, N.S. looks at a boy and his donkey cart while patrolling, in Kabul Afghanistan (news - web sites) Monday Aug 8, 2003. The Canadians are part of the International Security Assistance Force patrolling Kabul.(AP Photo/CP, Tom Hanson)

[Trigger]

Wallpaper anyone?

030905-N-1407C-002 Naval Air Station (NAS) Oceana, Virginia Beach, Va. (Sep. 5, 2003) -- Aerobatic pilot Michael Goulian performs one of many maneuvers during the 2003 Naval Air Station (NAS) Oceana Regional Air Show. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class J. Scott Campbell. (RELEASED)
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030828-C-9409S-509 New York Harbor, NY (Aug. 28, 2003) -- The Coast Guard Cutter Bainbridge Island, homeported in Sandy Hook, NJ., provides homeland security near the Statue of Liberty in the New York Harbor. U.S. Coast Guard photo by Petty Officer Tom Sperduto. (RELEASED)
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A soldier in 2nd Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, monitors the streets of a village in west Iraq Aug. 30. The 101st Airborne Division flew almost 450 kilometers from its bases in northern Iraq to search five villages in west Iraq to root terrorist camps 50 kilometers from the Saudi Arabia-Iraq border.
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[REMOV]

Who are these guys? AK's, Landrover, Bulgarian?Nope, they came form Albania and operate in US Zone. Today three of them was wounded in action near Mosul (one badly).

[He219]

Thanks REMOV! I guess the camo gave it away.....



Two Bulgarian soldiers stand guard during a hand over ceremony between the Bulgarians and US Marines. The Bulgarian troops will take over command of Karbala, a Shiite holy city about 100 kms south of Baghdad, which now falls under the jurisdiction of the Polish-led Multi National Division(AFP/Robert Sullivan)



Petko Marinov (R), the Bulgarian commander and new military governor of Karbala, a Shiite holy city about 100 kms south of Baghdad, congratulates US 3rd Battalion 7th Marines commander, Matthew Lopes, after Lopes handed over the command of the city.(AFP/Robert Sullivan)



Albanian President Alfred Moisiu (L) shakes with soldiers that were sent to Iraq (news - web sites). The US military confirmed that an Albanian soldier and 13 Iraqis were wounded in a grenade attack in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.(AFP/File/Gent Shkulaku)

[REMOV]

Thanks REMOV! I guess the camo gave it away...Welcome. You know apropos camouflage BDUs, the funny thing is, that the states where is completely no deserts at all and have temperate cold climate developes recently brand new desert patterns. E.g. Poland (oh, we have one tiny desert in our country - it has - TADAM - 30km2, in 40's Germans used it to train Afrika Korps Units), Germany, Hungary, Denmark, Bulgaria and even Czech Republic (see below - where they found sand in their country I really don't know, maybe it's some river beach? ;) ).

[EvanL]

Wait did u just say the States has no deserts? Ever heard of the Mojave desert? Las Vegas is in the middle of a desert. Canada also has deserts. You dont need a desert todefelop the camoflauge for one. You just have to study arid regions to get an understanding of what would work best.

[He219]

EvanLloyd:

REMOV means nations (states) with no deserts and with temperate climates recently developed arid camo patterns, interestingly enough.....

;)

One must excuse REMOV's "'ungrammatical English and Polish syntax in English sentences". You can't expect everybody to be fluent in English, Polish, Hebrew or whatever language in this global forum.

:P

Cheers!

[Ichhabe]

Wait did u just say the States has no deserts? Ever heard of the Mojave desert? Las Vegas is in the middle of a desert. Canada also has deserts. You dont need a desert todefelop the camoflauge for one. You just have to study arid regions to get an understanding of what would work best.


rofl :cantbeli:

We who are not born in an English speaking country are excused.

When reading a "foreigners" input here, please be aware of gramma and misspellings. We try to do our best.

And if you don't understands these "mistakes", your understanding *biiiiiip*. hehe.