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SeanAshi
09-26-2004, 05:41 AM
Hamas offical in Syria taken out Ariel Sharon style
http://forumspam.articblue.nl/user_related/owned/images/0694.jpg

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-26-2004, 01:06 PM
It might be funny at the moment but when Israelis get Hamassacred it will no laughing matter.

S'13
09-26-2004, 01:07 PM
It might be funny at the moment but when Israelis get Hamassacred it will no laughing matter.

Just like after Yassin and Rantissi, right? ;)

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-26-2004, 01:12 PM
It might be funny at the moment but when Israelis get Hamassacred it will no laughing matter.

Just like after Yassin and Rantissi, right? ;)
I would never take it for granted that Hamas will not mount a large bombing campaign I hope they do not but I would never rule it out of hand, some of the Israelis on this site are just to cocky for their own good, unlike the founders of Israel who understood humility.

S'13
09-26-2004, 01:19 PM
It might be funny at the moment but when Israelis get Hamassacred it will no laughing matter.

Just like after Yassin and Rantissi, right? ;)
I would never take it for granted that Hamas will not mount a large bombing campaign I hope they do not but I would never rule it out of hand, some of the Israelis on this site are just to cocky for their own good, unlike the founders of Israel who understood humility.

I'm not being cocky, just pointing out how everytime we take out a Hamas terrorists, prophets of apocalypse like to pop up and start saying "oh now you are going to get it"...

Of course we see how those prophecies never turn up in the end.

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-26-2004, 01:21 PM
Of course in the we see how those prophecies never turn up in the end.
As yet

S'13
09-26-2004, 01:24 PM
Of course in the we see how those prophecies never turn up in the end.
As yet

Let me explains something: Hamas strikes when it can, not when it chooses.

CannibalSquirel
09-26-2004, 01:27 PM
It might be funny at the moment but when Israelis get Hamassacred it will no laughing matter.

Just like after Yassin and Rantissi, right? ;)
I would never take it for granted that Hamas will not mount a large bombing campaign I hope they do not but I would never rule it out of hand, some of the Israelis on this site are just to cocky for their own good, unlike the founders of Israel who understood humility.

I´ve got to agree....

Mark_Aspen
09-26-2004, 02:22 PM
Your argument just doesn't hold water. Hamas was much more "active" when they and their leadership were untouched. Its the perfect example of Colin Powell's dictum about the head of the snake.

The extra entendre is a throwback to those "humble" leaders you seem to admire. Remember it was Ben-Gurion and Dayan who instituted massive retaliation against the places where the fedayeen and other terrorists came from. Why should Jerusalem have all the fun, a blast in Damascus may give someone pause to think.

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-26-2004, 05:32 PM
Your argument just doesn't hold water. Hamas was much more "active" when they and their leadership were untouched. Its the perfect example of Colin Powell's dictum about the head of the snake.
I think it is due to the difficult operating environment that exists in Israel at this moment for these groups is the main reason that Hamas is less active than it has been in the past not the decapitation of the Hamas leadership.

S'13
09-26-2004, 05:45 PM
Your argument just doesn't hold water. Hamas was much more "active" when they and their leadership were untouched. Its the perfect example of Colin Powell's dictum about the head of the snake.
I think it is due to the difficult operating environment that exists in Israel at this moment for these groups is the main reason that Hamas is less active than it has been in the past not the decapitation of the Hamas leadership.

And the decapitation of the Hamas leadership can't be one of the factors that are causing a difficult operating environment?

Every orginization has a hierarchy and the elimination of those in that hierarchy makes it difficult for the orginization to operate... Simple logic.

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-26-2004, 05:56 PM
And the decapitation of the Hamas leadership can't be one of the factors that are causing a difficult operating environment?

Every orginization has a hierarchy and the elimination of those in that hierarchy makes it difficult for the orginization to operate... Simple logic.
I am sure Hamas can operate without direct strategic direction as their goals are very clear and the group structure has built in redundancy in all levels, although at a spiritual level I am sure persons will not replaced readily.

S'13
09-26-2004, 06:12 PM
And the decapitation of the Hamas leadership can't be one of the factors that are causing a difficult operating environment?

Every orginization has a hierarchy and the elimination of those in that hierarchy makes it difficult for the orginization to operate... Simple logic.
I am sure Hamas can operate without direct strategic direction as their goals are very clear and the group structure has built in redundancy in all levels, although at a spiritual level I am sure persons will not replaced readily.

There goals are clear however now more than ever, attacks must be planeed very well and thought out.

The Israeli government wouldn't be carrying out these assassinations if it didn't pay off, we are not motivated by revenge my friend. Even though you may think otherwise...

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-26-2004, 06:18 PM
The Israeli government wouldn't be carrying out these assassinations if it didn't pay off, we are not motivated by revenge my friend. Even though you may think otherwise...
Nothing I have written has expressed an opinion that Israel is out for revenge. What else do you see written between the lines S'13.

RavenW
09-26-2004, 06:24 PM
Same day Al Qaeda terrorist and Hamas terrorist are killed.
BBC reports...

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/564_1096237236_bbc_double2.jpg



This is a strange world.
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S'13
09-26-2004, 06:24 PM
The Israeli government wouldn't be carrying out these assassinations if it didn't pay off, we are not motivated by revenge my friend. Even though you may think otherwise...
Nothing I have written has expressed an opinion that Israel is out for revenge. What else do you see written between the lines S'13.

Well it is evident that you are asserting that these targeted killings have no strategic value... ;)

Sayeret
09-26-2004, 07:41 PM
It might be funny at the moment but when Israelis get Hamassacred it will no laughing matter.

I don't think its funny that the Hamas leader was killed. I think its good but I don't plan on celebrating it. One thing you should know is that Hamas is always trying to attack Israelis. The IDF usually stops several attacks a day but you don't hear about it because it happens so often.

Chris0176
09-27-2004, 03:56 AM
Murder is allways the last resort, I don't want to think that Israel is that far gone.

Ghostwolf
09-27-2004, 04:21 AM
Hamas member retirement the Mossad style

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/ghostwolf/Avatars%20and%20Icons/explowned.jpg

username
09-27-2004, 08:24 AM
wtf, you guys are gloating about a conflict like this? innocent children are being killed every day for the sake of a share price or holy revenge. This situation is way outa hand and noone seems to care.

Moledet
09-27-2004, 11:03 AM
Great operation. Best known operation of the Mossad in a long time.

P.S. Another one just got killed in an assassination in Gaza.

And there was a research that clearly shows that when there are more assassinations there are far less terror attacks, if you like it or not, it works.

oh, and that terrorist in Syria was chosen because he gave the OK to make the terror attack in Be'er Sheva.

Red
09-27-2004, 11:09 AM
8 posts

usa320
09-27-2004, 12:54 PM
Dude terrorsits are getting their asses kicked big time lately.

SeanAshi
09-27-2004, 01:36 PM
I bet Khaled Mashaal and Hassan Nasrallah will be checking out their cars before going for a drive.

aartamen
09-27-2004, 03:05 PM
Murder is allways the last resort, I don't want to think that Israel is that far gone.

How's the weather on your planet?

One?
09-27-2004, 03:12 PM
I bet Khaled Mashaal and Hassan Nasrallah will be checking out their cars before going for a drive.

They don't drive. People come to them (i'm serious).

SeanAshi
09-27-2004, 03:46 PM
What will it take to bring about peace? Or is that impossible?

aartamen
09-27-2004, 03:48 PM
In most conflcits peace is a consequence of an utter defeat of one side.

Moledet
09-27-2004, 04:14 PM
I bet Khaled Mashaal and Hassan Nasrallah will be checking out their cars before going for a drive.

They don't drive. People come to them (i'm serious).
Yeh, Nasrallah is doing Hizbullaha's public meetings in his backyard.
They drive to many places, and one day their day will come. Right now Nasrallaha doesn't interest Israel, but Mashaal will get hit.

Javehn
09-27-2004, 04:16 PM
Better live by hard truth then by easy lie.


What is the connection here ? Nothing . But I just love those great insightfull cosmic one liners , that many users here so full of them . Did you thought of becoming philosofers ? You waisting time here on forum . They are so non rethoric and original, it's just hearts :roll: :roll:

Nizark
09-27-2004, 04:21 PM
2 more fatah commanders got popped today as well..


I sware, that Sharowned graphic is ****in hysterical...also, being the ugly sumbitch he is and that, ' i just pick pocketed you' grin he seemed to bust out from time to time.

Trident-za
09-27-2004, 04:28 PM
I'm sorry, haven't been following the news much... is this the "car bomb" assisination or not? I thought car bombs were "bad, terrorist" acts.

Other than that - good job!

Moledet
09-27-2004, 04:36 PM
I'm sorry, haven't been following the news much... is this the "car bomb" assisination or not? I thought car bombs were "bad, terrorist" acts.

Other than that - good job!
It wasn't a car bomb the drove into a crowd of people and was activated in order to kill as many as possible. It was a small bomb that was put in that terrorist car in order to kill him, before they activated the bomb they called to his cellphone to make sure that it's him so no innocents will get hurt.

SeanAshi
09-27-2004, 05:07 PM
Did Mahmoud Zahar fall off the face of the earth? He needs to come out and play.

Trident-za
09-27-2004, 05:11 PM
I'm sorry, haven't been following the news much... is this the "car bomb" assisination or not? I thought car bombs were "bad, terrorist" acts.

Other than that - good job!
It wasn't a car bomb the drove into a crowd of people and was activated in order to kill as many as possible. It was a small bomb that was put in that terrorist car in order to kill him, before they activated the bomb they called to his cellphone to make sure that it's him so no innocents will get hurt.

OK, a "smart" car bomb then... good stuff.

Raistlin
09-28-2004, 01:32 AM
Good stuff indeed. Reminds me of the golden days of Mossad.

I'm going to repost a post I did in another assassination thread (there're a bit too many of them):


Go Mossad!!! In my honest opinion Mossad, Shabaq, and Mistaravim, are the ones that are capable of winning the whole terrorist war (of course, not win 100% but about 98%). Shabaq and Mistaravim have been on full afterburner for the past decade or so. Now hopefully Mossad is going to be reorganized like Sharon promised and they're going to take a much more proactive stance towards terrorists.

IDFM203
10-02-2004, 12:49 PM
It might be funny at the moment but when Israelis get Hamassacred it will no laughing matter.So you are comparing some here taking delight into the fact that a terrorists leader and mastermind was targeted and killed to when Hamas most of the time purposely targets and kills Innocent civilians!! :roll:

To me I don’t see it as the same nor do I find any moral equivalence in the two as your statement seems to wrongly do :roll:

Secondly, nor do I see any attack afterwards as some cycle of revenge crap, for even if we didn’t kill him or even if we didn’t fire a single shot in self defense, they would still be sending in homicide bombers and shooting at us!!!

Thirdly, I do take delight in the fact that now we are going after them and hitting them wherever they are and are relentless in that, as well as the other measures that the IDF has taken in the past couple of years that has in FACT dramatically reduced the level of violence against us by over 70 percent!!!

Now of course I believe there will be more homicide bombings (and indeed their motivation is sky high, though it would be that no matter what, from an organization that is NOT fighting to simply end Israel’s presence in the west bank and Gaza, but rather is fighting for the complete destruction of ALL of Israel!!), but will it be everyday or even twice a day as BEFORE Israel finely acted in self defensive and went on the offensive (I hope you can understand what I mean here), nope, that will not happen again!!! (That’s of course if "we" [I put we in quotation marks, for I was never one that foolishly supported it] aren’t foolish enough to follow yet again another disastrous leftist policy like Oslo :roll:)


Shalom :D

SeanAshi
10-02-2004, 01:20 PM
Secondly, nor do I see any attack afterwards as some cycle of revenge crap, for even if we didn’t kill him or even if we didn’t fire a single shot in self defense, they would still be sending in homicide bombers and shooting at us!!!
Unfortanitly some do not understand the ideology of Hamas and their ultimate goal the obliteration Israel.

StarvingStudent47
10-02-2004, 01:38 PM
I'm sorry, haven't been following the news much... is this the "car bomb" assisination or not? I thought car bombs were "bad, terrorist" acts.

Other than that - good job!
It wasn't a car bomb the drove into a crowd of people and was activated in order to kill as many as possible. It was a small bomb that was put in that terrorist car in order to kill him, before they activated the bomb they called to his cellphone to make sure that it's him so no innocents will get hurt.

OK, a "smart" car bomb then... good stuff.

Yeah, terrorism is largely defined by WHO is targeted (civilians vs non-civilians), instead of IN WHAT MANNER. I mean, if Rommel had run into Hitler's bathroom wearing an explosive belt, and detonated it while Adolph was taking a dump, I think we all would call it a "praiseworthy assassination" instead of "terrorism."

Knutsen
10-02-2004, 02:03 PM
Yeah, terrorism is largely defined by WHO is targeted (civilians vs non-civilians), instead of IN WHAT MANNER. I mean, if Rommel had run into Hitler's bathroom wearing an explosive belt, and detonated it while Adolph was taking a dump, I think we all would call it a "praiseworthy assassination" instead of "terrorism."

Agree with you, but when you harm civilians it belongs to the category of terrorism (not talking about this case).
We've seen that sometimes, the terrorist is among civilians and he's hit by a missile killing civilians. In my opinion that's terrorism too.

IDFM203
10-02-2004, 02:13 PM
Yeah, terrorism is largely defined by WHO is targeted (civilians vs non-civilians), instead of IN WHAT MANNER. I mean, if Rommel had run into Hitler's bathroom wearing an explosive belt, and detonated it while Adolph was taking a dump, I think we all would call it a "praiseworthy assassination" instead of "terrorism."

Agree with you, but when you harm civilians it belongs to the category of terrorism (not talking about this case).
We've seen that sometimes, the terrorist is among civilians and he's hit by a missile killing civilians. In my opinion that's terrorism too.Your broad view on terrorism is a utopian view in the realm of pure theoretical from a thought process of not really understanding the true nature of combat, and frankly the view is impossible at all times in the real realities of this world!!!!

No one can ever live up to that, though the best that anyone can is to try its best to always avoid civilians if at all possible and in fact the IDF does try its best (plenty of times it hasn’t fired when it saw civilians as I have also persoanly not fired when I saw civilians in my sights) but at times its virtually impossible to be 100 percent sure that the missile or bullet going for the terrorists wont also kill civilians (that in most cases he has purposely surrounded himself in).

Lastly, Israel and other nations that try to uphold to the ideal of avoiding civilians, also makes mistakes at times and civilians are killed, but that is not terrorism as well!!

To me terrorism is one that purposely and intentionally targets civilians, plain and simple!! that’s it!!


Shalom :D

Sayeret
10-02-2004, 02:19 PM
We've seen that sometimes, the terrorist is among civilians and he's hit by a missile killing civilians. In my opinion that's terrorism too.

If Israel were going around shooting missiles at random Palestinians then you could consider it terrorism but that’s not what Israel is doing. Israel fires missiles at Hamas leaders which sometimes results in civilians casualties. There’s no way your going to prevent all civilian casualties, so if your definition of terrorism is anyone who kills civilians no matter the circumstance then almost every country would be a terrorist state because almost every country has accidently killed civilians at some point in their history.

usa320
10-02-2004, 02:33 PM
Theres been alot of pwnage today....

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