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aeternum
09-05-2003, 11:09 AM
The RMK 30, is the first recoilless fullautomatic cannon in the world.

http://www.waffenhq.de/flugzeuge/rmk30_01.gif

http://www.waffenhq.de/flugzeuge/rmk30_02.gif

http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/mauser/mauser2.jpg

Comparision (muzzle energy):
XM-302 (20mm): 56kj (RAH-Commanche)
M203 (30mm): 80kj (AH-64 Apache)
Gsch-301 (30mm): 180kj (Su27, Mig29, Mi24 Hind)
GAU-8/A Avenger (30mm): 190kj (A-10 Thunderbolt II)
RMK 30 (30mm): 200kj (UH Tiger, Wiesel)
HumanShield
09-05-2003, 11:25 AM
You wouldnt have a video of this by any chance would you? I doubt there is one, from what ive noticed Germany isnt to open about showing its weapons "in action". But thats cool none the less. Any more info would be great.
b00n
09-05-2003, 06:37 PM
You wouldnt have a video of this by any chance would you? I doubt there is one, from what ive noticed Germany isnt to open about showing its weapons "in action". But thats cool none the less. Any more info would be great.

Just wait till somebody shouts "Suprise Suprise" ;)
Grimjack
09-05-2003, 09:41 PM
Nice with all that smoke it makes a great target. Cancel christmas when someone sends some heat it's way.
Vertigo
06-19-2005, 02:58 AM
New Pics of the RMK 30 Prototype (November 2004)



http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_watr_wiesel_1_bmk_30mm_vt-001i.jpg

http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_watr_wiesel_1_bmk_30mm_vt-002i.jpg

http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_watr_wiesel_1_bmk_30mm_vt-003i.jpg
sp2c
06-19-2005, 04:40 AM
interesting, do you think it can be mounted on Fennek?
caleb
06-19-2005, 05:29 AM
interesting, do you think it can be mounted on Fennek?

No, I don't think so, but it's the main gun of the new IFV Spz. Puma.
Harlequin
06-19-2005, 05:42 AM
No, I don't think so, but it's the main gun of the new IFV Spz. Puma.
errr, ...
1. yes it can be mounted on a Fennek
2. the new main armament for the IFV Puma is the MK30-2 and not the RMK30

all at all ... not too far off though ;)
sp2c
06-19-2005, 09:02 AM
'how many rounds per minute does it fire?
Vertigo
06-19-2005, 10:27 AM
rpm is not important here because the rmk is a "sniper" under the automatic cannons

aiming accuracy:
radius <1.5m on a range of 1000m

http://img17.echo.cx/img17/9346/rmkchart9oa.jpg

http://img17.echo.cx/img17/2209/rmktable1zi.jpg
goldman
06-19-2005, 11:11 AM
Thats looks pretty cool
sp2c
06-19-2005, 01:47 PM
rpm is not important here because the rmk is a "sniper" under the automatic cannons


it is important if you are going to make comparisons to GAU 8/A Avanger and the like
Vertigo
06-19-2005, 02:21 PM
rpm is not important here because the rmk is a "sniper" under the automatic cannons


it is important if you are going to make comparisons to GAU 8/A Avanger and the like

the Gau isn't a Recoilless cannon



so what is the aiming accuracy of the Gau?
Bluezoo
06-19-2005, 02:50 PM
Wow! Interesting! woot
sp2c
06-19-2005, 02:57 PM
rpm is not important here because the rmk is a "sniper" under the automatic cannons


it is important if you are going to make comparisons to GAU 8/A Avanger and the like

the Gau isn't a Recoilless cannon



so what is the aiming accuracy of the Gau?

don't know, don't care

I'm not trying to bash the weapon mind you (imo it's very interesting) I just think it's unfair to compare it to gau 8 and the others without taking all the facts into account and this includes the rate of fire.
a .50 sniper rifle to a .50 heavy machinegun
turan8
06-20-2005, 12:51 AM
It seems to me that the RMK 30 has only a limited amount of uses. It certainly can't be used in airplanes and (I doubt that its the main weapon on a tiger) helicopters with the exception of low accuracy wing mounts. Sorry, it just doesn't seem that innovative.
Michael RVR
06-20-2005, 01:47 AM
Nice with all that smoke it makes a great target. Cancel christmas when someone sends some heat it's way.

Hey Grim, you dont think the vehicle firing would cause people to notice it ?
:cantbeli:

That said though, it probably wouldn't be that healthy for infantry behind it ;)
sp2c
06-20-2005, 05:29 AM
yes that does seem like a problem (he gas exhaust, is probably not good for your health right?

but still imagine the firepower by helicopter you can ship in with this baby attached ... you don't even have to sling it

and afaik the german tigers will definately be getting it, I think I've seen the mount somewhere allready

edit: there ya go
http://www.bwb.org/C1256DF2004FF94C/CurrentBaseLink/W25Y9ATB207INFODE
Marmot1
06-20-2005, 06:15 AM
'how many rounds per minute does it fire?

30mm up to 300
35mm up to 200
Vertigo
06-20-2005, 06:24 AM
and afaik the german tigers will definately be getting it
I'm not sure.
sp2c
06-20-2005, 03:43 PM
well they should

and if it works out then we should buy them for our apache's as well the combat helicopter is more a sharpshooter anyways woot
Harlequin
06-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Sorry, it just doesn't seem that innovative.

Do you know any other 30mm, fully stabilised, recoilless machine cannon with caseless ammunition that is air- burst capable and fits onto vehicles ranging from a 4t Wiesel to the Stryker and above?

Having a fast Wiesel with the firepower nearly that of an IFV can be quiet a nasty surprise!