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KB
09-30-2004, 02:56 PM
By William S. Lind

The unit knew it would soon be shipped to the front. Some soldiers responded by deserting. Others got drunk and fought. In response, officers locked the unit in its barracks, allowing the troops out only to drill, not even to smoke a cigarette, until it could be put on the transport that would take it into combat.

It sounds as if I am describing some third echelon Soviet infantry regiment in, say, 1942. In fact, I am talking about the 1st Battalion of the 178th Field Artillery Regiment, South Carolina Army National Guard, in September 2004. According to a front-page story in the September 19 edition of The Washington Post, the unit was disintegrating even before it was deployed to Iraq. One shudders to think what will happen once it gets there and finds itself under daily attack from skilled enemies it cannot identify.

One of the likely effects of the disastrous war in Iraq will be the destruction of an old American institution, the National Guard. Desperate for troops as the situation in Iraq deteriorates, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld is using the National Guard in a mission for which it was never intended: carrying on a “war of choice” halfway around the world.

Most Guardsmen enlisted expecting to help their neighbors in natural disasters, or perhaps maintain order locally in the event of rioting. They never signed up for Vietnam II.

Yes, the Guard was mobilized and deployed overseas in both World Wars, but those were true national wars, in which the American people were all involved one way or another. Cabinet wars, as they used to be called, are something altogether different. As Frederick the Great said, cabinet wars must be waged in such a manner that the people do not know they are going on.

But National Guardsmen are the people. To send them into a cabinet war is to misuse them in a way that will destroy them. Even in the American Revolution, militiamen were seldom asked to fight outside their own state. When they were, they usually responded by deserting.

The fault does not lie with the soldiers of the National Guard. Even within their units, they are being horribly misused. One of the Guard’s strengths is unit cohesion: members of a unit come from the same place and usually know each other well, both in the unit, where they serve long-term, and often in the local community as well. In the case of the 1st Battalion, 178th Field Artillery, the Post reports that “to fully man the unit, scores of soldiers were pulled in from different Guard outfits, some voluntarily, some on orders.” Cohesion went out the window.

One soldier in the unit said, “Our morale isn’t high enough for us to be away for 18 months …. I think a lot of guys will break down in Iraq.” That is always what happens when unit cohesion is destroyed, in every army in history.

For many Guardsmen, deployment to Iraq means economic ruin. They have mortgage payments, car payments, credit card debt, all calculated on their civilian salaries. Suddenly, for a year or more, their pay drops to that of a private. The families they leave behind face the loss of everything they have. What militia wouldn’t desert in that situation?

The real scope of the damage of Mr. Rumsfeld’s decision to send the Guard to Iraq – 40 percent of the American troops in Iraq are now reservists or Guardsmen – will probably not be revealed until units return. One of the few already back saw 70 percent of its members leave the Guard immediately.

What the Washington elite that wages cabinet wars does not understand, or care about, is the vital role the National Guard plays on the state and local levels. Once the Guard has been destroyed, who will provide the emergency services that communities need when disaster strikes? One would think that in a so-called “war against terror,” where the danger to the American homeland is readily acknowledged, someone in the nation’s capital would care about the local first line of defense.

The fact of the matter is that Versailles on the Potomac does not care about the rest of the country in any respect, so long as the tax dollars keep coming in. My old friend King Louis XVI might be able to tell Rumsfeld & Co. where that road eventually ends up.

Guest Contributor William S. Lind, a veteran defense policy analyst, is Director of the Center for Cultural Conservatism at the Free Congress Foundation, where this article originally appeared. He can be reached through the foundation’s mailform. Please send Feedback responses to dwfeedback@yahoo.com.

Pandy
09-30-2004, 03:30 PM
This mother ****er don't know ****.

I signed up to the National Guard to have part a Military Live and a Civilian one. I signed up fully-knowning that I can be deployed to a country to fight a war.

Alot of these guard units are made up of students looking for college money, part time jobs, training, etc. Tho, there hasn't been one guardsman I've met who wasn't willing to go to Iraq and fight, matter of fact, my unit is up for deployment in the next 4-6 months.

FallenAngel
09-30-2004, 03:34 PM
:roll:

Laconian
09-30-2004, 05:41 PM
Absolutely ridiculous with just about no basis in fact or history. Following the restructure of the US Army in the 1990s most if not all of the Combat Arms units in the Reserves were deactivated and transferred to the National Guard. If you enlist into the NG thinking you were going to help out your neighbors during natural disasters, why are so many of the units combat arms? Anybody think a gunbunny in the 1/178 FA has any training running a water purification site? Or restringing phone or electric lines?(Most of these units are now Reserve not NG units). Think guys joined the 19th & 20th SFG (Abn) to get special training filling sandbags to help stop the next flood?

During both the American Revolution and American Civil War militia units fought with distinction in places besides their home colonies (states). What caused the most friction and desertion was not fighting outside their state, but being asked to stay beyond the term they signed up for and not being paid. Not to mention the numerous NG units that were deployed to both theaters in WWII and Korea.

Maybe this is the same story, but I keep hearing about one unit. I haven't heard of mass desertions or AWOLS or refusals to deploy from all the other NG units: the 29 ID (Light) just did a tour in the Balkans, I know a bunch of 20th SFG (A) guys and civil affairs unit guys that have gone once and are ready and waiting to go again.

James
09-30-2004, 05:41 PM
This mother f*** don't know ****.

I signed up to the National Guard to have part a Military Live and a Civilian one. I signed up fully-knowning that I can be deployed to a country to fight a war.

Alot of these guard units are made up of students looking for college money, part time jobs, training, etc. Tho, there hasn't been one guardsman I've met who wasn't willing to go to Iraq and fight, matter of fact, my unit is up for deployment in the next 4-6 months.

How many guardsmen have you met?

Just curious.

Mark Sman
09-30-2004, 06:36 PM
Yeah, they forgot about all the Guard units in Bosnia.

Not to mention Korea and Vietnam.

Original Washington Post story.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31689-2004Sep18.html

KB
09-30-2004, 06:39 PM
Check out www.sftt.org. Lots of posts by guys in the Guard/Reserves.

I agree with some of the other posts- if a guy joins a combat arms unit he shouldn't be surprised when the call comes to practice the trade he was taught. Unfortunately, a lot of these guys seem to join for economic reasons, not believing they'll get shot at some day.

Also, don't think comparing a Guard/Reserve SF unit to a Guard/Reserve straight leg infantry unit is fair.

Pandy
09-30-2004, 11:20 PM
This mother f*** don't know ****.

I signed up to the National Guard to have part a Military Live and a Civilian one. I signed up fully-knowning that I can be deployed to a country to fight a war.

Alot of these guard units are made up of students looking for college money, part time jobs, training, etc. Tho, there hasn't been one guardsman I've met who wasn't willing to go to Iraq and fight, matter of fact, my unit is up for deployment in the next 4-6 months.

How many guardsmen have you met?

Just curious.

Being a National Guardsman myself, countless numbers.

mi35d
10-01-2004, 12:21 AM
The article also leaves out the fact that the Guard and Reserves have served in just about every military action no matter the size since WW2.

For example, half of the pilots who fought in Vietnam were Guard and Reserve.

After ANY military action there is a dip in the Guard & Reserve recruiting and then it recovers.

The Guard has an interesting role and the soldiers I know are ready to respond to the dual role. When ice storms ripped through the northern part of NY the Guard rolled out within two hours of the call-up by the NY state Governor. Earlier this year the second bat was sent to Iraq. Another bat was posted stateside. Citizen soldiers know what they have to do.

usa320
10-01-2004, 02:49 PM
There are too many people that are signing up for the free college and not really thinking about what their real job is.

I think that they should recieve their free college But if people are joining for only that reason then they shouldnt be allowed in. Because then when it comes time to go to war they bitch.