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BlackRain
10-01-2004, 03:52 PM
IDF releases footage of militants loading rockets into 'UN' vehicle
ByThe Associated Press (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/483950.html)
The Israel Defense Forces released video footage Friday taken by an unmanned aircraft showing what appeared to be Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip loading rockets into a vehicle marked "UN."
The black-and-white footage, taken by a drone - or unmanned aircraft - flying over the Gaza Strip, showed the militants driving off in the white van, with "UN" marked in black on its roof.
Israel has often accused militants of using United Nations vehicles and headquarters to launch attacks. UN officials were not immediately available for comment.
Israel has also accused officials from the UN Relief and Works Agency, responsible for caring for thousands of refugees in the Gaza Strip, of turning a blind eye to militant activities in their vicinity, and of clear bias against Israel.
The IDF uses drones to monitor activities in the crowded Gaza refugee camps. The footage provides soldiers and pilots real-time pictures of what is happening on the ground.
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No wonder there is genocide in the Sudan. The UN can't even prevent it's vehicles and building from being used by terrorists.
I would love to know what country is providing security and administration in this case.
BlackRain
10-01-2004, 08:13 PM
Here is another interesting video taken on May 28, 2004.
http://a-me.net/archives/videos/*******unambulance_051104.wmv
It clearly shows UN vehicles transporting men armed with AK-47's in attack on Israeli forces.
What the hell is the UN doing?
BarkingSquirrel
10-01-2004, 08:16 PM
What the hell is the UN doing?Proving us right.
Ichhabe
10-01-2004, 09:36 PM
Here is another interesting video taken on May 28, 2004.
http://a-me.net/archives/videos/*******unambulance_051104.wmv
It clearly shows UN vehicles transporting men armed with AK-47's in attack on Israeli forces.
What the hell is the UN doing?
What it shows is either:
1) a corrupt ambulance driver
2) a stolen ambulance
3) a false ambulance
What it does not show:
1) UN's policy
2) Standard procedure of UN's ambulances
If any of you guys really think that this is how UN operates down there, you really are victim of your own propaganda.
BarkingSquirrel
10-01-2004, 09:44 PM
Your looking at a single occassion. The Israelis have video of multiple occasions. Gee they must have one hell of a problem remembering where they parked their cars then eh?
radon
10-01-2004, 10:04 PM
Or it was a almost always a fake UN car? How can you know?
Ichhabe
10-01-2004, 10:05 PM
Your looking at a single occassion. The Israelis have video of multiple occasions. Gee they must have one hell of a problem remembering where they parked their cars then eh?
Yes they have. As long as the drivers are local, they will have a problem with that. If you don't have anything to contribute but ironic sarcasm I advice yout to keep your peace.
GrimReaper
10-01-2004, 10:44 PM
Your looking at a single occassion. The Israelis have video of multiple occasions. Gee they must have one hell of a problem remembering where they parked their cars then eh?
Yes they have. As long as the drivers are local, they will have a problem with that. If you don't have anything to contribute but ironic sarcasm I advice yout to keep your peace.
So if a fanatical Israeli group steals a tank and starts bombing palestinians, it's cool?
I mean the IDF and Israel wouldn't be held accountable,right?
The UN would not condem Israel, cause it was stolen, and the driver was local...
Yeah right rofl
Siddar
10-01-2004, 11:23 PM
Here is another interesting video taken on May 28, 2004.
http://a-me.net/archives/videos/*******unambulance_051104.wmv
It clearly shows UN vehicles transporting men armed with AK-47's in attack on Israeli forces.
What the hell is the UN doing?
What it shows is either:
1) a corrupt ambulance driver
2) a stolen ambulance
3) a false ambulance
What it does not show:
1) UN's policy
2) Standard procedure of UN's ambulances
If any of you guys really think that this is how UN operates down there, you really are victim of your own propaganda.
So point me to the link of UN denouceing people stealing the vehicles are impersnating them.
People pretending to be UN personal to carry out attacks would be a huge damn issue to me if was part of UN staff. Infact it would be a hold everything until this problem is fixxed.
UN peacekeeper live and die by there reputation and people abuseing that reputation to cause death and violence put all UN at risk.
In fact this issue needs to be brought before security council and dealt with because it is not a minor issue.
UkrainianAmerican
10-01-2004, 11:57 PM
Your looking at a single occassion. The Israelis have video of multiple occasions. Gee they must have one hell of a problem remembering where they parked their cars then eh?
Yes they have. As long as the drivers are local, they will have a problem with that. If you don't have anything to contribute but ironic sarcasm I advice yout to keep your peace.
So when a UN vehicle gets shredded by a .50 cal, I dont wanna hear any bitching or whining.
StarvingStudent47
10-02-2004, 12:53 AM
So point me to the link of UN denouceing people stealing the vehicles are impersnating them.
People pretending to be UN personal to carry out attacks would be a huge damn issue to me if was part of UN staff. Infact it would be a hold everything until this problem is fixxed.
UN peacekeeper live and die by there reputation and people abuseing that reputation to cause death and violence put all UN at risk.
In fact this issue needs to be brought before security council and dealt with because it is not a minor issue.
No joke. Having vehicles stolen and used for terrorism is a VERY BIG DEAL. Being impersonated by terrorists is a VERY BIG DEAL. When the UN does nothing about this, when they don't respond, when they turn a blind eye, what are we supposed to think?
Romulus
10-02-2004, 02:09 AM
Your looking at a single occassion. The Israelis have video of multiple occasions. Gee they must have one hell of a problem remembering where they parked their cars then eh?
Yes they have. As long as the drivers are local, they will have a problem with that. If you don't have anything to contribute but ironic sarcasm I advice yout to keep your peace.
So when a UN vehicle gets shredded by a .50 cal, I dont wanna hear any bitching or whining.
Nor do I.
How come this isn't on any of th news media tonight?
Javehn
10-02-2004, 02:26 AM
After someone will repost the thread were setllers beat the relief workers near Hebron , for the 20 time , and it will be declared as a Zionist performed Genocide , systematic ethnic cleansing and a worst terrorist act in the century , this will probably get to the news as a side remark rofl .
BarkingSquirrel
10-02-2004, 08:51 AM
Your looking at a single occassion. The Israelis have video of multiple occasions. Gee they must have one hell of a problem remembering where they parked their cars then eh?
Yes they have. As long as the drivers are local, they will have a problem with that. If you don't have anything to contribute but ironic sarcasm I advice yout to keep your peace.I advise that you keep your advice to yourself.
Local or not, it is still the UN's responsiblity to keep their **** from being used illegally. Obviously due to the widespread use, they are not doing anything to prevent it. Accomplices are just as guilty as the perpetrator.
Oh wait, I forgot. As far as the UN is concerned it's only illegal if Israel does it :roll:
BlackRain
10-02-2004, 09:05 AM
Here is another interesting video taken on May 28, 2004.
http://a-me.net/archives/videos/*******unambulance_051104.wmv
It clearly shows UN vehicles transporting men armed with AK-47's in attack on Israeli forces.
What the hell is the UN doing?
What it shows is either:
1) a corrupt ambulance driver
2) a stolen ambulance
3) a false ambulance
What it does not show:
1) UN's policy
2) Standard procedure of UN's ambulances
If any of you guys really think that this is how UN operates down there, you really are victim of your own propaganda.
If it was an isolated incident I could agree with you. However, your refusal to evalute the United Nations actions can be seen as believing your own propaganda.
The United Nations is aware of the problem. It can be view on their website, so try not to deceive yourself by claiming it is not true.
14. UNRWA facilities have been used for terrorist training and armed operations. Privileges granted to UNRWA workers, such as VIP documents to facilitate movement through checkpoints and the reputation and immunities of UNRWA vehicles have been exploited for the purposes of carrying out terrorist attacks. A number of UNRWA employees were arrested and indicted by Israel for allegedly abusing such United Nations property and privileges for terrorism. These threats receive little or no mention in the current report. Annex I details a number of situations in which UNRWA installations and property have been used for terrorist purposes.
http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/74fa7b8bc80cbe1085256df200622493?OpenDocument
Here is a more detailed list of other United Nations incidents:
1. ******* has a video cassette of pictures taken during the Israeli army operation in the Zeitun quarter of Gaza City on May 11, 2004. It shows armed Palestinians using UNRWA ambulances to transport terrorists and possibly also remains of fallen Israeli soldiers.
2. Partial confirmation came from the statement made on May 13 by a UN spokesman, that during the incident (which occurred in Gaza on May 11), armed Palestinians threatened an UNRWA ambulance team and forced them to transport an armed and wounded Palestinian and his two armed escorts to a Gaza hospital. The spokesman noted that UNRWA censured the action “in the strongest terms possible.” He also noted that armed personnel are not permitted to enter UNRWA vehicles on any pretext whatsoever, and called upon Israel and the Palestinians to respect the agency's neutrality.
3. In addition, since the beginning of the current ongoing hostilities, several incidents have been recorded in which terrorist organizations have used UNRWA facilities and vehicles (including ambulances) to facilitate their terrorist operations. Two prominent examples are:
a. Nidal ‘Abd al-Fataah ‘Abdallah Nizal, a Hamas activist from Qalqiliya who worked as an UNRWA ambulance driver (arrested in August 2002), admitted he had used one such vehicle to transport munitions to terrorists and had also exploited the freedom of movement he enjoyed to transmit messages to and from Hamas activists in various places.
b. Nahd Rashid Ahmad Atallah, a senior UNRWA employee working in the Gaza Strip who was in charge of distributing aid to refugees (arrested in August 2002), admitted that during June and July 2002 he had given rides in his car – an UNRWA vehicle – to armed terrorists belonging to the Popular Resistance Committees. The terrorists were on their way to attack Israeli soldiers at the Karni Checkpoint and to fire rockets at Israeli settlement in the northern Gaza Strip. He also used his UNRWA car to transport a bomb weighing 12 kg (about 25 lbs) to his brother-in-law, a Popular Resistance Committees operative (Note: the Popluar Resistance Committees are a militant faction of Fatah and are active primarily in the Gaza Strip).
4. Nahd Atallah explained that he had used his car to transport terrorists to their targets because it belonged to the United Nations, and since the Israeli army did not search such vehicles, he could travel freely. His admission is a striking example of the way terrorist organizations exploit the privileges of relaxed security restrictions accorded UNRWA vehicles by Israeli forces. Such privileges are the result of humanitarian considerations and the Israeli desire to maintain correct relations with UN representatives active in the Palestinian Authority-administered territories.
5. Additional information about past exploitation by terrorists of UNRWA personnel, vehicles and facilities can be found at the Center for Special Studies Website.
Ichhabe
10-02-2004, 09:29 AM
First; I never denied it happening.
Second; I do belive that the UN is taking this serious and not turn a blind eye to it.
If they do, then it is a crying shame.
IDF releases footage of militants loading rockets into 'UN' vehicle
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Kilgor
10-02-2004, 09:28 PM
this issue is not imporant, nor was the oil for food curruption.
Move along, nothing to see here. Infact, lets issue another statement condemming israel ;)
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