ETA's Top Leader arrested in France

[rafaelcb]

'Spain's Bin Laden' has been arrested. This may be the happiest day of the lives for many people.

woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot



Google Translation:
ALSO STOPPED The HISTORICAL ' ANBOTÓ And OTHER 19 TERRORISTS
It falls in France ' Mikel Antzá, the maximum leader of ETA

' Anbotó, the most bloodthirsty ETA member, has been arrested next to the ' number unó of the band, that is its sentimental companion
The police has found seven zulos, one of them with arms military, that hid to documentation and important sums of money
The rest of prisoners is, in their majority, members ' not fichados' of the logistic apparatus of the band
The operation is fruit of four years of work of the Civil Guard


BAYONNE|BORDEAUX (FRANCE) . - The French police has stopped to Mikel Albizu, ' Mikel Antzá, maximum ETA leader, in Salis-of-Be'arn (southwestern of the country), within the framework of a great operation in which other 20 people have been arrested, among them its sentimental companion, Maria Solitude Iparagirre ' Anbotó , member of the political apparatus of the band and whom previously part of the ' Arabá commandos formed and ' Madrid'.

Both, of 43 years, have been forming sentimental pair for years and have a young son who was with them at the moment of the halting.

' Antzá and ' Anbotó were not the initial objective of the cast , but they were arrested next to other two people in a house of the mentioned locality, indicated sources next to the investigation, house that used as it calls to account habitual or at least visited very frequently.

The capture of both ETA leaders has taken place within the framework of a combined-arms operation of the Gallic police and the Guardia Civil developed this dawn in French territory and the province of Towns, that have settled with the halting of 21 people and the dismantling of great part of the ' logistic apparatus ' of the terrorist organization.

The 'number one' and the one in charge of the extorsion

Considered like head of the political apparatus of ETA from 1992 , after the fall of the ' cupola of Bidart', ' Antzá was able the 2 of last April to escape of a cast in Saint-Paul-them-Dax (the Moors, southwest of France), in which the presumed head of the logistic apparatus of ETA was stopped, Felix Ignacio Esparza Luri.

Her companion ' Anbotó took care of the collection, management and distribution of the revolutionary " imposed" call. In addition, he was responsible for the ' legal commandos ' of the band, which drove the executive committee of ETA and it turned it the second woman in reaching resemblance rank in the terrorist band, after Dolores Catarain ' Yoyes'.

Seven zulos, one with arms military

The police is registering in countryside and in Hendaya seven hiding places of arms and the ammunition, in one of which, at least, it was found heavy armament like lanzamorteros, grenade launcher, assault rifles and machine guns . In particular, 42 sub-machine guns in the Gallic locality of Ayherre have been located . Also has been abundant documentation, important sums of money and explosives of Titadyne the robbed mark in Grenoble.

According to the same sources, the haltings took place in the localities of Saint Pierre d'Irube, Briscou, Hendaya, Aiherre, Salis-of-Be'arn, Domezain Berrante and Urrugne, and in vast the operative one 150 agents of different bodies have participated, including Divisio'n Nacional Antiterrorista (DNAT) and the Brigade of Investigation and Intervencio'n (BRI) of Bayonne.

Most of the arrested ones it is of Spanish origin and all except one reside in the south of France. The prisoners were in charge of the hiding places. According to Interior, the zulos can be used like reserve depots for arms and explosives.

The operation is fruit of four years of work of the Civil Guard, who initiated his searches in 2000, according to informed sources into the investigation.

Arrest in Towns

On the other hand, the Civil Guard has stopped to a Spanish truck driver in the province of Towns . The arrested one, that could be Pedro Maria Alcántarilla, and whose wife is between the prisoners in France -, presumably is related to the positioning of explosive devices in facilities of electricity of the provinces of Guipúzcoa and Huesca the past month of September.

Day 15 of that month, ETA placed four devices composed among half kilo and a kilogram of amonal in the base of a turret of high tension of the Spanish Mains in the Guipuzcoan locality of Irún that, in spite of suffering damages, did not collapse.

Eleven days later, the 26, the Civil Guard deactivated eight of the 16 placed explosive charges in a pylon in the pirenaico valley of Bujaruelo , in Huesca, after the others had exploded, although the installation stayed still on and the electrical service was not interrupted.

Tie to the haltings of Wednesday

Antiterrorist judge parisiense Laurence Him Vert, specialized in the ETA summaries, arrived this morning at the vascofrancesa locality of Urrugne, initially to attend the registry of the address of the truck driver.

Her wife, Lourdes Urdanpilleta, were stopped in the house of Urrugne, located near the freeway that takes to Spain and about to five kilometers of an border mountain passage.

This operation is related to the practiced haltings Wednesday in the provinces of Biscay and Leon, according to sources of the antiterrorist fight.

The operation, that continues open, is not bound to the recent agreement between France and Spain to create a joint equipment of investigation against ETA centered in the search of the authors of the attacks perpetrated in the campaign of summer of the band the year last and this one in Spain.


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[Knutsen]

The operation has been coducted by Police Nationale RAID with the assistance of spanish civil guard. This is a new example of the agreement for which spanish agents have jurisdiction in France and french agents have jurisdiction in Spain.
Great work. I hope this 2 motherf**** pay in prison for what they've done.

It's calculated that under the command of Mikel Antza around 100 people have been killed.

[Ichhabe]

Strange... No congratulations from your allied for a job well done? Seems like some here do not like that the French and Spanish police work so well against international terrorism.

[Knutsen]

You know Ichhabe, friendship is ephymerous....friendship is based on a "I order and you obey relationship". Many people here don't like diversity , only believe in what is right for them.

I guess its better for their Rambo-like ego to kill hundreds of people.

[Sharp]

Seems like some here do not like that the French and Spanish police work so well against international terrorism.

Who ?
Why ?
Where ? :bash: :D

[fred_engles]

I'm thinking this is awesome - but it's kinda hard to tell, since the translation is terrible =)

[Knutsen]

It's google translator's fault. I would translate it but i'm too lazy ;)

[Romulus]

Congrats Spain. Hope this ****er rots in hell.



PS. Don't turn this into a Flame topic Ichhabe, just be happy for the Spainards today ok?

[Ichhabe]

Congrats Spain. Hope this f*** rots in hell.



PS. Don't turn this into a Flame topic Ichhabe, just be happy for the Spainards today ok?

I would be more happy for the French today. Since it was them that did the actual arrest. ;)

[Romulus]

Congrats Spain. Hope this f*** rots in hell.



PS. Don't turn this into a Flame topic Ichhabe, just be happy for the Spainards today ok?

I would be more happy for the French today. Since it was them that did the actual arrest. ;)

Who cares who you are happy for. 1 Terrorist bastard behind bars, that in itself is reason enough to be happy no matter who you are.

[Gatling]

Ichhabe
Strange... No congratulations from your allied for a job well done? Seems like some here do not like that the French and Spanish police work so well against international terrorism.
Well i doubt many of the american people know who's ETA. Plus since they don't hate americans you can't really call them terrorists ;) :lol:

[foxtrot023]

Congrats Spain. Hope this f*** rots in hell.



PS. Don't turn this into a Flame topic Ichhabe, just be happy for the Spainards today ok?

I would be more happy for the French today. Since it was them that did the actual arrest. ;)

Who cares who you are happy for. 1 Terrorist bastard behind bars, that in itself is reason enough to be happy no matter who you are.

Amen to that Romulus. It would have been awesome if the scumbag had actually resisted, thereby giving the RAID folks an excuse to give him a 9mm pill.

Ichhabe: It was the result of joint Spanish and French police forces that resulted in these arrests (it took 4 yrs). Since ETA has caused 1000 deaths in Spain and not in France, who would you be happy for?

[Kilgor]

Strange... No congratulations from your allied for a job well done? Seems like some here do not like that the French and Spanish police work so well against international terrorism.

Since when was ETA a international terrorist organisation like most of the Islamic groups ?

Its a great day to see any terrorist behind bars or dead, but everyone know the main war on terrorism is against Islamic groups.

[foxtrot023]

Strange... No congratulations from your allied for a job well done? Seems like some here do not like that the French and Spanish police work so well against international terrorism.

Since when was ETA a international terrorist organisation like most of the Islamic groups ?

Its a great day to see any terrorist behind bars or dead, but everyone know the main war on terrorism is against Islamic groups.

You are so wrong!!!! What about the savages that placed the bombs in Ok. City (i.e.)? are they less evil that islamic terrorists?
All terrorists are a plague.

[Otsoa]

Good to see that they got the f*cker. Hope he rots in jail.

[SOG]

excellent! now only if petas top leader was arrested in france also!

[Gatling]

SOG
excellent! now only if petas top leader was arrested in france also!

We can't arrest all the petasses in France man, that's just impossible rofl

[Kilgor]

Dont get me wrong, all terrorists are scum.

But this is national terrorism , where islamic terrorism is internation.

[Loco]

The point of islamic terrorist being international is that you, Kilgore, feel some kind of danger, only that. The point of ETA being a national terrorism is that I had the chance of listening bombs, cleaning some broken windows in my first job, and looking smashed people 30 meters from my parents home when I was a child. It´s necessary to be an stupid bastard to diminish the danger of ETA and joking about PETA or TETA or I don´t know what, and it´s not by ETA but because of the 900 people that ETA killed, many hundreds of mutilated and disabled people and several thousand of people expelled from basque country because they were compelled to do it.
And what it´s more frustrating is that of ETA is a nationalist terrorism, as is was less bad. First of all, ETA hopes to "liberate" Basque country, and basques live between France and Spain, so of course they want to liberate too french basque country. ETA could develop itself thanks to the shelter they enjoyed many years in France, and the facilities they had to travel to Belgium and Netherland and buying weapons in that countries. ETA terrorists were enough clever to killing only in Spain and sleeping by the night in France, they only began to be persecuted by frenchs when political branch of ETA began to have some strength in Bayonne, Hendaye and etc. Many of the ETA terrorists were born frenchs and had french passport, like Henry Parot, responsable of more than 30 deaths, so I wouldn´t say that a terrorist organization that operates between two countries and traditionally had long networks in almost all western european countries are only a spanish problem. Because this is the the no-problem of ETA to almost everybody: That only kill spanish.

[fantassin]

ETA has killed in France too and it has been hunted down in France for decades now.

It was just distasteful for the French Gvt to have to collaborate with Franco's Fascist regime when he was still in power. Since Franco and then the GAL have disappeared, the collaboration between FR and SP is good.

[Loco]

No, Fantassin, no. We have a full democracy since 1977, and Giscard D´Estaing was president until 1981 or 1982, the hardest years of ETA. You don´t mention that most of 900 people were killed in democracy and mostly between 1977(after having an amnesty) and 1982, and that GAL was created after PSOE was elected in october of 1984, and it´s good to say that after that dirty war ETA never more could kill as many people as in the years of Giscard, a true enemy of a strong and free Spain. I think you want to follow here a discussion of other forum. If the dictatorial Spain of Franco produces repugnance to frenchs, well, I simply say first of all french shouldn´t put obstacles spanish republic when they fought for freedom, and the french democracy shouldn´t have recognized the Franco regime when the Spansh Republic still was alive. Facts are facts, even if you don´t like.

[fantassin]

The most numerous foreign group to fight alongsides the Republicans in the International brigades were the French (over 10,000); they suffered over 3,000 KIAs in support of spanish democracy.

You have a selective memory I am afraid...the French Navy did not blockade the Republican spanish harbours like the Royal Navy did....

The Gvt of the "Front Populaire" tolerated a lot of help towards the Republicans. The Russian influence just made it harder and harder to support towards the end. Anthony Beevor's book "The spanish civil War" is very interesting for that.

[Falco]

woot

[Loco]

I told you, Fantassin, you are doing here the thread that belonged to other thread. My memory isn´t selective, and I´m coherent, I think you aren´t. First of all, russian influence, better said soviet, was useful to spanish republic just because it was the only help in terms of weapons that spanish democracy could enjoyed. Your french democracy didn´t help spansh democracy, and by the autumn of 1938, the soviet influence had ended in Spain, and still the Republic could survive 7 months more. Your 3.000 frenchs killed in Spain I think are more beloved by me than you. Of what I read of you, you justified that spanish republicans were concentrated as criminals, or as jews to be fair, because frenchs were afraid they were the fifth column: fifth column of whom??? Those over 300.000 spanish concentrated in France were conscrip soldiers and volunteers of anarchist, communist and simply democrat ideology, and civils: women, old and kids, many many civils. But if they are communist there´s some kind of justification to concentrate, them, isn´t it? Well, frenchs were no less than the half of International Brigades, and those frenchs you can swore that were communists, but I think you like more those communists that you are so proud because they are frenchs, not spanish. I wonder if they were concentrated too when the survivors returned to France, or were given the legion d´honneur, or just they were hidden and treated as scum and 14 months later, after german invassion, given to germans by french gendarmes. I love those french soldiers, they fought for us, even if they were communists that is true that they were, , ask to André Marty. But French government blockaded logistics of spanish republic, and stopped in the border weapons spanish had bought and paid in other countries. And France, after Leon Blom lost the power, recognized the fascist spanish regime, and etc etc etc
And Henry Perot, more than 30 spanish killed, is french, that bastard wasn´t killing by the basque freedom when he killed spanish 15 years ago. It´s nothing personal against France, I´ve just have some grand grandmothers and grand grand fathers of the other side of the borders, and I´ve a french uncle and a french aunt, I´ve french relatives and I almost cross the border once a month. But you have failed with your datas and your dates misserably. Giscard D´Estaing let ETA living openly in the south departments at the same time he tried to give us lessons of democracy. Very ugly.

[LazyLob]

The most numerous foreign group to fight alongsides the Republicans in the International brigades were the French (over 10,000); they suffered over 3,000 KIAs in support of spanish democracy.

[fantassin]

I see the wounds are not healed and it's not my business anyway; one thing I have learnt from dating a Spanish girl and visiting her family is NEVER to discuss the "guerra civil" with a Spaniard.

That proves it once more.

[LazyLob]

The most numerous foreign group to fight alongsides the Republicans in the International brigades were the French (over 10,000); they suffered over 3,000 KIAs in support of spanish democracy.[/quote]

Fantassin you are dangerous ground there. Democracy? We all know what happened in 1936 but what do you think would have happened if the other Republicans had won? Spain had few options in those days, ranging from bad to worse. Anyway the thread is about ETA and not how the French are the best at everything.

[LazyLob]

Fantassin BTW you know who was first into Paris for its liberation...................?

Spaniards, with their tanks

[fantassin]

And it took two posts for such an interesting comment ?

[LazyLob]

the boy can count

[fantassin]

Wrong, the RMT and "La Nueve" was only a part of the Dronne detachment which he commanded and comprised tanks and engineer units also; and please, give it a break with the spaniards in the 2°DB, listening to some here, it sounds like it was a spanish unit.

[Loco]

Tt

[Loco]

That´s an stereotype, it´s like this stereotype: Frenche aren´t sinceres. You can´t accept even with facts that ETA could live comfortably and even with the complicity of french authorities many years. My opinion: having Franco in Spain helped the frenchs to clean your soul taned with the Vichy shame: Franco was a fascist, spanish were fascists, french weren´t fascists and always fought the nazis and fascists: you didn´t, and sometimes even you helped them. So better forget that thousands and thousands of spanish filled the files of that called "french" resistance. And ETA french terrorists were born many years after the end of spanish civil war, so don´t try to embroil: Here we are talking of ETA, a group that assasinated in the years of spanish democracy. To talk about spanish civil war you have the Military and History forum. Henry Parot, etarra, french, killed more thant 30 spanish, nor a single french.
I take your words: NEVER to discuss the "french" resistance with a Gaulois.
Edited: And I wanted first of all to congratulate french policemen, because withouth them it would be imposible to liquidate ETA.

[fantassin]

yes, over 600,000 frenchmen and women killed during WW2 collaborating with the Germans.

And scores of Spanish heroes, since it's well known there wasn't a single French person in the resistance, they were too busy collaborating.

Wasn't it "la resistancia" even ? Carlos de Gaulle ?

[LazyLob]

you are so endearing

[Loco]

Comme on, Fantassin, De Gaulle was more hated than loved in France from 1940 to 1944, just the only thing I don´t like of him is that he did a farewell visit to Franco in 1969, my God, what a man Franco, he was friend simultaneously of Petain an De Gaulle, but this is France: the half of your country preferred living under the german boot because they thought they were saved of a communist revolution, and the other half just just didn´t confraternized with germans: they resisted but they didn´t fought. Btw, there were places where only resistants were spanish, armenians and jew from everywhere, and of course El Maquis speaked in spanish in places like Toulouse. And Don Carlos De Gol, as you should now, has spanish ancestors. ;)

[fantassin]

I just don't like the constant hijacking of the Resistance by different groups, just like you do.


What is so annoying with a French Resistance ?

[Loco]

You don´t like to finish it, eh? ;)
It´s nothing annoying with French Resistance, except that your history ignores the foreign contribution, and foreign contribution wasn´t an anecdote: was veeery important for french resistance. Even we don´t like the word "Resistencia" in Spain, it hasn´t prestige, we imagine people wearing black sweaters, smoking pipes, talking much and doing nothing. We usually call the french resistants as "guerrilleros" or "maquis", specially referred to France, and we call "resistants" to the pipe smokers.

[fantassin]

This is simply not true, the foreign volunteeer are commemorated with plaques wherever they fought, they were given medals when deserved and the French are especially self critical when it comes to that period.

We've had scores of trials and every year new ones come about.

[obd]

I can only hope we in America have the same succes's against our domestic terror groups: The various Christian Militia's, one of which launched the second most devastating terror strike in American history: The Oaklahoma City Bombing.

[Knutsen]

Yeah obd, i hope you can get all those terrorists and not only islamic terrorism.
And for ignorants like Kilgor, the fact that they don't attack americans doesn't make them less terrorists than Bin Laden & friends.
ETA has been killing people long time before most Americans knew there is a world beyond Atlantic Ocean.

And since you seem to need US sources to believe things check the US State Department terrorist list.

About the Spanish-French relationship, yeah, there were french volunteers which i really admire but the government only stole our gold.
About the liberation of Paris , fantassin is right, La nueve was only a company with 150 Spaniards, that doesn't make the liberation of Paris a spanish matter although we have to admit that spaniards were the ones who captured Nazi HQ in Paris.

[Knutsen]

fantassin , you should agree with me that in Spain we remember and thank many foreign volunteers. We are conscious that we had an important help from foreigners whereas in France you tend to take la resistance as something 100% french. In the last years people are starting to recognise the value of foreign fighters in France 1940-1944.

I don't know about the rest of nationalities but particularly spaniards haven't been treated very well by the french. It's like that part of spanish contribution has been erased.
For example last August 25 was the FIRST ever commemoration of the liberation of Paris in which spaniards have been mentioned.
The first plaque with spanish names has been put this year.
In a plaque in the old Nazi Radio building in paris there's a plaque with 4 names: 3 real names and the unknown soldier wich was known was a spanish republican.

But anyways, we have changed the topic a bit . Sorry(as we say in spanish, nos hemos ido por los cerros de Ubeda).

[usa320]

GOOD RIDDANCE!

[Pégase]

[...]
For example last August 25 was the FIRST ever commemoration of the liberation of Paris in which spaniards have been mentioned.[...]


well at least it is a start



Paris' mayor Bertrand Delanoe (L) shakes hands with Spanish Senate's vice-president Francisco Javier Rojo Garcia after they unveiled one of the twelve bronze plaques marking the route taken by the Dronne column

hope it will help to heal some old wounds ...

[Knutsen]

Yeah Pegase, it's stupid to argue for things that happened 60 years ago.
Now we have to work together (as we are doing).

PS. Javier Rojo is the president of the Senate, not the vice-president