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10-07-2004, 01:08 PM
Set Saddam Free

Thursday, October 07, 2004

By John Gibson

Here's how stupid this Saddam and Al Qaeda debate is.

OK, let's say Edwards and Kerry and Lockhart et al, are right.

There's no WMD connection, no Al Qaeda connection and no Sept. 11 connection.

Let's say they're right — despite the evidence that conclusions have been made for political purposes — but let's say they're right for argument's sake: There were no WMD, no Al Qaeda, no 9/11 link. That means Saddam was innocent and that means the war was wrong

That means Saddam should still be in charge of his country and that regime change was unjustified and in error.

Hey, we can do something about this: Saddam is in our custody. Let's see somebody step forward and say it was all wrong and therefore we should let Saddam free and pop him loose from his jail cell. We should give him back his army. We should give him back his palaces. We should resurrect his two thug murderer sons. We should make things all better again, pre-March 2003. Iraq as it was: The righteous Saddam in charge and all the Iraqis happy.

Now who's going to step up and make that argument?

That is the logical conclusion of the "Bush was wrong" argument: Bush lied, Bush misled and Bush isn't being straight with the American people.

What? Nobody wants to step up and make that argument? Why so bashful?

Because Saddam was one of those things Tony Blair called a "tricky issue." And by tricky, Blair said he meant — and I'm quoting now — "something you know has to be done" — that would be getting rid of Saddam — but, quoting again, "you want to have the luxury of criticizing" Bush and the Americans for actually doing it.

It's tricky all right.

Saddam is an issue that everybody knows Bush was right about: He had to go. Name a reason — any reason — fill in the blank. But because it's politics, some people need to maintain the luxury of criticizing Bush for something they are glad was done.

It's as bogus as bogus can be.

That's My Word.

Regards,
Hist2004

2Sheds_Jackson
10-07-2004, 02:06 PM
That's a great point, and one that I hope Bush will bring up in the next debate (even though it's on domestic issues). If the war was wrong, Saddam was OK, then Kerry should put his money where his mouth is and call for Saddam's release and restoration as the leader of the Iraqi nation. But we know he won't, becuase that would be crazy. And thus it proves Bush right.

Blair is one eloquent bastard. That's a beautiful thing he said; "something you know has to be done - but you want to have the luxury of criticizing" - no clearer illustration could be made. Man, I wish Bush could articulate concepts as clearly as Blair. But then, who'd listen to a cowboy who talked like David Niven? :)

Mark Sman
10-07-2004, 03:17 PM
Saddam is under Iraqi jurisidction. He will still have to answer for gassing the Kurds, and killing thousands of other Iraqis.

OB Kenobi
10-07-2004, 09:07 PM
Saddam is under Iraqi jurisidction.

He's under US jurisdiction. The Iraqis, or should I say, Allawi, have repeatedly asked to have him turned over. I think he won't be turned over until the Iraqis have their own government in place and people won't feel that the trial was unfair... like Milosevic's trial. :P

Speaking of Milosevic's trial, if that's any indication, Saddam's trial may drag on for years.

Rakki
10-07-2004, 09:53 PM
Saddam lost, and he should be hung.

Secret Squirrel
10-07-2004, 09:55 PM
Saddam is under Iraqi jurisidction.

He's under US jurisdiction. The Iraqis, or should I say, Allawi, have repeatedly asked to have him turned over. I think he won't be turned over until the Iraqis have their own government in place and people won't feel that the trial was unfair... like Milosevic's trial. :P

Speaking of Milosevic's trial, if that's any indication, Saddam's trial may drag on for years.

Milosevic's trial is dragging on because he was allowed to represent himself. Also, because of where his trial is being conducted, he is allowed exactly the same amount of time to present his case (regardless if he has a reason or argument) as the prosecution used. But I do agree that Saddam's trial is going to take a long time.


That's a great point, and one that I hope Bush will bring up in the next debate (even though it's on domestic issues). If the war was wrong, Saddam was OK, then Kerry should put his money where his mouth is and call for Saddam's release and restoration as the leader of the Iraqi nation. But we know he won't, becuase that would be crazy. And thus it proves Bush right.

The next debate (the townhall) is open to all areas of policy. No one has said that Saddam was "OK" or that he was a good guy. People are bringing Bush to task on his handling of a war which has strained the military and guaranteed a U.S presence in Iraq for who knows how long. The war was couched in the rhetoric of current WMD programs and current WMD stockpiles. Do you remember the Bush admin. talking about mushroom clouds? I certainly do. So your logic of trying to prove Bush right is faulty at best.

Mark Sman
10-07-2004, 10:16 PM
He's under US jurisdiction.

This would explain why he answered charges in an Iraqi court.

Jurisdiction and custody, two different things.

Alex_All_Alone
10-07-2004, 10:44 PM
HIST - can you post a link to where you got that from? I would love to be able to cite it on other sites . . .

Secret Squirrel
10-07-2004, 10:59 PM
HIST - can you post a link to where you got that from? I would love to be able to cite it on other sites . . .
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134679,00.html
Did you really question whether it was from fox or not (especially given how it's written)? ;)

Mark Sman
10-07-2004, 11:18 PM
Doesn't matter, the Iraqi's will get to him when they get to him.