Russian Documentaries on Chechnya

[Igor01]

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"The Peacemakers"

Disk 1 (http://www.russtv.ru/video1/patriot/patriot_war/mirotvorci1.avi) 387MB

Disk 2 (http://www.russtv.ru/video1/patriot/patriot_war/mirotvorci2.avi) 547MB

Short Description:

"We haven't seen Chechnya this way before" The film was awarded Grand-Prix of the "Zolotoj Vityaz" Slavic and Orthodox Christian Films (2002). During the broodiest and darkest years for Russia, God sends his peacemakers to stop the fighting.

"For their friends..."

Disk 1 (http://www.russtv.ru/video1/patriot/patriot_za_drugi/za_drygi.avi) 355MB

(The title refers to the old Christian saying "There's no greater honour than the honour of those who sacrifice their lives for their friends."

Both documentaries are shot from the Russian Orthodox Christian prospective, both are in Russian. If you are looking for a Hollywood-type "action packed" experience you may be disappointed, the authors don't find anything glamorous about the war and rather strive to find ways to bring peace to Chechnya. Both films feature some combat footage so you can watch it just for that if that's your thing, beware though that there's some very graphic scenes (not a lot, but some just to show the reality of what's happening there).

The commentary in both films is excellent, it's a shame really that the Western audiences have no choice but to get their information on the Chechnya conflict from newscasts and features like CNN's Greetings From Grozny.

EDIT: The second film appears to be not on Chechnya, there's another documentary with exactly the same name that I have on Chechnya but this file seems to be a different one. So if you are interested in the Chechnya documentaries, get the first one only. I'll try to arrange hosting for a couple of more documentaries on the Chechen conflict and will post links when they are ready.

[scm77]

Downloading "For Their Friends". (Don't speak russian so just for the combat footage.) p-)

[scm77]

What program can I use to play .avi?

[-Jack-]

What program can I use to play .avi?

DivX and WMP (Windows Media Player)

Or possibly Quicktime

[scm77]

Windows Media Player plays .avi!?!?! :cantbeli:

[Igor01]

Windows Media Player will play these files (much like any other .AVI), just make sure you have the DIVX codecs installed. Get them for free from www.divx.com

[scm77]

:hug:

[bloddyaxe]

This Mirotvorts movie is very good at showing the realities of war, around 20minutes in the first part, they show how the casualties are mounting in a skirmish, first one dead, then two and finally a dozen or so. Rather intresting.

[Viktor_s]

Why bother with all the programs?! All you need Windows Media Player (better still get the executable for Windows media player 5 (like in windows 98), it's only 5 kb, and uses all the files from the WinXP WMP. That baby plays ANYTHING. (apart from .mov files)

Oh, and get the codecs too (divx)

Sorted.

[intelligenzija]

I recommend VLC media player, the best player I know

[anonymous individual]

I recommend VLC media player, the best player I know

VLC is very CPU demanding.

[American Patriot]

What a giant clusterf. Those poor Russian soldiers who were beheaded..

[Azide]

can someone post a bittorrent link to "chistilishe"? Please :D

[username]

anyone know where i can find a subtitle file for the movies?

[RomanS]

the 6 soldiers were beheaded are from the second Chechen war.

The "freedom fighters" invaded Dagestan and on September 5th six Russian soldiers of Internal Forces were taken alive near Tuhiar (Novolakski disrtict)

One of the fuks participating in a brutal satanic murder was tamerlan hasaev (i won't add capitals in his name)

he was caught by Russians in 2001

[RomanS]

I dont recomend watching the begining of the second video, because they show a peice from that scene. Its brutal, and makes my blood boil

[Abbyy]

Short commentary:
"For Their Friends" is not about Chechnya. It's about whole 20 century historical documentary

[Hawk of prairie]

I dont recomend watching the begining of the second video, because they show a peice from that scene. Its brutal, and makes my blood boilkill them all permskii,the film let me remember the song"kombat"

[username]

What a giant clusterf. Those poor Russian soldiers who were beheaded..

poor people that get dragged into war, so that the children of the rich and famous can snort thier cocaine in peace.

[Igor01]

UPDATE: The second film appears to be not on Chechnya (thanks Abbyy for pointing that out), there's another documentary with exactly the same name that I have on Chechnya but this file seems to be a different one. So if you are interested in the Chechnya documentaries, get the first one only. I'll try to arrange hosting for a couple of more documentaries on the Chechen conflict and will post links when they are ready.

[Dick&theBush]

That second movie is very sad.......

[Azide]

This Mirotvorts movie is very good at showing the realities of war, around 20minutes in the first part, they show how the casualties are mounting in a skirmish, first one dead, then two and finally a dozen or so. Rather intresting.

thats not what happens at all, the soldiers came back to the combat zone to pick up their dead.

[Abbyy]

This Mirotvorts movie is very good at showing the realities of war, around 20minutes in the first part, they show how the casualties are mounting in a skirmish, first one dead, then two and finally a dozen or so. Rather intresting.

thats not what happens at all, the soldiers came back to the combat zone to pick up their dead.

Yes, killed in previous battle day before. This part is from March 1996 when bandits for first time assaulted on Grozny. This assault failed but costed many lives for police units.

[tvi]

I`m :(

Why they cut heads off? Is that some islamic ritual or victory. I can`t understand. Soldier do not this ****. Animal murder bandits do.

I wonder, how Russian & Chechny peoples can`t make a peace. I think, that citizens want, politics and bandits not.

I´m so sad, what happens in my neighbour country. Rest in peace russian & chechn dead peoples (I don`t mean satanic murderer bandits or criminal soldiers)

[aik]

I wonder, how Russian & Chechny peoples can`t make a peace. I think, that citizens want, politics and bandits not.


You can ask same question about jews/palestinians, indians/pakistanians,
armenians/aserbajanians, turkish/kurds etc.
The whole thing in Chechnya didn't start 10 years ago. It started few hundreds years ago, and by reading memoirs of Russian general Ermolov (who was a military governor in Georgia around 1816(?)) I can tell they didn't changed much. In WW2, according not to rumors, but classified (now open) documents they did support Hitler a lot, and for Russians just that one enough to f*ing kill them all. Stalin didn't, but he moved 400000 of them (almost all) to Syberia (in contrary to common opinion, it wasn't bloody at all, according to report to Beryia (head of KGB) only 4000 of them died in a way. And it was 1944. I don't really understand the reasons of so humane act.
Personally, I have been in Ingushetia and saw and talk to chechens and ingushes. I have my personal opinion of this nation, and it's, how should i put, not very exciting.

[username]

I`m :(

Why they cut heads off? Is that some islamic ritual or victory. I can`t understand. Soldier do not this ****. Animal murder bandits do.

I wonder, how Russian & Chechny peoples can`t make a peace. I think, that citizens want, politics and bandits not.

I´m so sad, what happens in my neighbour country. Rest in peace russian & chechn dead peoples (I don`t mean satanic murderer bandits or criminal soldiers)

im no expert on this, but you notice that they filmed it, imagine if you were going to war and the day before you saw that on the 6 oclock news or at a friends house..............fkn scary.

Maybe they do it as revenge for thier ffallen friends because they hate the enemy or something. But then again this soft of things happens on farms and butchers shops every day.

I suggest you read your history books on the conflict, it's a long and cruel war where many people on both sides, guilty and inocent have died. I personally blame stalin for starting this war, but read your history books and found out what really happened

[Azide]

There is a good point by the narrator in the film. He suggests that the chechens want revenge, but how foolish is this? There is no more Stalin or the people who oppressed the chechens alive today. What if the jews wanted revenge against the Nazis, would they start killing present day german civilians who have no responsiblity for the action of nazis?

[tvi]

There was one big and ugly cricis in europe, balkan. All bad things shaken. Lots of civil massmurders, raping, much, much other war crimes, muslims peoples (like chechn, palestin), much terrorist/criminal type of people, not only soldiers. All things, like other war zones. They have peace now. And peoples have something today. Why? Balkan have also history.

Russian vs chechn, chechn vs russia - can we talk nothing like peace next 10 years?

[aik]

There was one big and ugly cricis in europe, balkan. All bad things shaken. Lots of civil massmurders, raping, much, much other war crimes, muslims peoples (like chechn, palestin), much terrorist/criminal type of people, not only soldiers. All things, like other war zones. They have peace now. And peoples have something today. Why? Balkan have also history.


Was? Dude, if they stoped to show it in news, it dosn't mean it stoped in reality. In reality, NATO and UN forces staying all over Kosovo, serbs are forces to go away (few hundred thousands) and god knows what will happened when they returns. That exactly situation with chechyna at 1944. Drive people from their homes works temporary and looks good on paper, but dose it mean they have peace in their minds? They forgot about history? Nope.

What i'm trying to say that there is no simple solution. I, for one, would be very happy to see peace in Chechnya, as well as in Israel, Iraq and other places like this. I'm sure Russians agree on this one as well.
It's not like they don't want peace - with their history they know about war more than probably everybody else.

[Roger Rabbit]

Part one- the video titled "mitrovorci1" 29 minutes in theres a scene where a group of young men(prisoners?) are being led out by a crowd of people chanting "Allah Akbar". Anyone got any more infomation about whats going on here and the fate of the prisoners. I don't speak any russian.

[Abbyy]

Part one- the video titled "mitrovorci1" 29 minutes in theres a scene where a group of young men(prisoners?) are being led out by a crowd of people chanting "Allah Akbar". Anyone got any more infomation about whats going on here and the fate of the prisoners. I don't speak any russian.

1995. 1st assault on Grozny. I don't know exact fate of those soldiers but if they were transferred to Presidental Palace after their capture (i'm afraid they were filmed exactly inside of it) 90% chances they were all killed, many tortured, many crusified on palace windows.

[Undo]

im no expert on this, but you notice that they filmed it, imagine if you were going to war and the day before you saw that on the 6 oclock news or at a friends house..............fkn scary.


They don't film it for the news or for the Russians, they film it so they can get paid. They only get paid after they show these videos to the sick phucks who sponser the terrorists. As much as they cry "allah ackbar", its the almighty $ that motivates them.

[Berkut]

Mirotvortsy is an exellent reportage, if i can call it so. Just watched it (I speak russian). Really shows the horrors of war and all the horrors commited by these "Freedom Fighters".

This has to be somehow translated to english!!! everybody should see (and understand) this reportage. This must be seen by all Americans and Europeans. This should open their eyes on what is Russia dealing with there.