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FuzziWuzzi
09-13-2003, 01:21 AM
READ BELOW AND TELL ME IF U GET A NIBBLE p-)

This first
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,1036685,00.html

2nd
declassified memorandum for secretary of defence -content :justification for US military intervention in Cuba
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/11_20_01_northwoods.pdf

3rd
Project for the New American Century (PNAC thinktank) published sep 2000
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf p-)

FuzziWuzzi
09-20-2003, 04:28 AM
LOOK PROOF !! rofl

http://www.wolf-alliance-int.com/frodo_has_failed.jpg

Mortimer
09-20-2003, 05:07 AM
lol
gold

Until July 2001 the US government saw the Taliban regime as a source of stability in Central Asia that would enable the construction of hydrocarbon pipelines from the oil and gas fields in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Indian Ocean. But, confronted with the Taliban's refusal to accept US conditions, the US representatives told them "either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs" (Inter Press Service, November 15 2001).


more gold


Given this background, it is not surprising that some have seen the US failure to avert the 9/11 attacks as creating an invaluable pretext for attacking Afghanistan in a war that had clearly already been well planned in advance. There is a possible precedent for this. The US national archives reveal that President Roosevelt used exactly this approach in relation to Pearl Harbor on December 7 1941. Some advance warning of the attacks was received, but the information never reached the US fleet. The ensuing national outrage persuaded a reluctant US public to join the second world war.

lolol rofl

The overriding motivation for this political smokescreen is that the US and the UK are beginning to run out of secure hydrocarbon energy supplies. By 2010 the Muslim world will control as much as 60% of the world's oil production and, even more importantly, 95% of remaining global oil export capacity. As demand is increasing, so supply is decreasing, continually since the 1960s.

Seoulstriker
09-20-2003, 10:39 AM
The overriding motivation for this political smokescreen is that the US and the UK are beginning to run out of secure hydrocarbon energy supplies. By 2010 the Muslim world will control as much as 60% of the world's oil production and, even more importantly, 95% of remaining global oil export capacity. As demand is increasing, so supply is decreasing, continually since the 1960s.

rofl

did this guy ever take economics? he really needs to take off his tin-foil hat on this one.

FuzziWuzzi
09-20-2003, 12:18 PM
did this guy ever take economics?
RAP SHEET
Michael Meacher

http://www.cpom.org/leaf/LEAF%20images/Michael-Meacher.jpg

Personal Details
Date of Birth - November 4, 1939
Spouse - Lucianne
Children - Two sons, two daughters

Education
Berkhamsted School
New College, Oxford
London School of Economics

Previous Occupation(s)
Lecturer
Professor
Author
Journalist
taken from the below site
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/people_in_parliament/newsid_92000/92321.stm


Michael Meacher, at 61, is one of the real ministerial successes of an ageist Blair administration. Fearing he might be shelved as too old and too leftwing when Tony Blair formed his government, he was happy to be demoted from the shadow cabinet on the day Mr Blair entered Downing Street and took a minister of state's salary to prove that he could successfully underpin John Prescott in his massive new department. Since then, John Prescott has utilised his experience and curbed his tendency for hyperbole, while taking credit for Mr Meacher's hard work for the environment.

Mr Meacher attended Berkhampsted, a public school in Hertfordshire, on a county scholarship, before going on to New College, Oxford. He then became a research fellow, lecturer and visiting professor at York University and the London School of Economics.

His ministerial experience dates back over a quarter of a century. Selected for Oldham West in succession to Leslie Hale, he lost it in a byelection but retook it in June 1970, when Edward Heath became prime minister. He was on the left and when Labour unexpectedly took power in March 1974, Harold Wilson named him under secretary for industry (1974-1975), under Tony Benn. Both were demoted a year later.

He worked as under secretary for health and social security (1975-76), then for the trade department (1976-1979) in the Wilson and Callaghan governments.

The pioneer of many advanced ideas, Mr Meacher is seen as a much saner Tony Benn and was once tagged "Benn's vicar on earth" by Neil Kinnock. He pioneered Labour's democratisation as chairman of the Labour coordinating committee, and more than 30 years ago, proposed higher pensions for the over-80s.

He published research showing 35,000 deaths from hypothermia and in 1979 he complained that the defeated Callaghan government had failed to abolish the Lords. He tried a freedom of information bill more than 20 years ago. More recently he was one of the first to see the Bosnian war as "another Spanish civil war."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/furniture/politics/people_in_parliament/446.jpg

The Rt Hon Michael Meacher MP was appointed Minister of State (Environment). His responsibilities cover: sustainable development, climate change, environmental protection and water issues; wildlife and conservation, SSSIs and Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty; and energy efficiency. He will represent the UK in the EU Environment Council.

Michael Meacher was Minister for the Environment at the former Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions from 1997 to 2001. He was appointed a member of the Privy Council in 1997

He has been the Member of Parliament for Oldham West and Royton since 1970. He was formerly chief opposition spokesman on environmental protection (from 1996). Before then, he was chief opposition spokesman on employment (1995-96 and 1987-89), transport (1994-95), Citizen's Charter (1993-94), development and co-operation (1992-93), social security (1989-92), and health and social security (1983-87).[/b] He has also been a member of the Treasury Select Committee (1980-83)and a Chairman of its sub-committee. From 1974-75 he was Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State at the Department of Industry, and at the Department of Trade between 1976-79. He was also Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State at the Department of Health and Social Security between 1975-76.

Mr Meacher was a lecturer in Social Administration, and has published numerous articles and pamphlets on social and economic policy, Born on 4 November 1939, Mr Meacher was educated at Berkhamstead School, Hertfordshire, and New College Oxford. He is married with two sons and two daughters.
taken from the below site
http://www.cpom.org/leaf/meacher-biog.htm


did this guy ever take economics?:cantbeli:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/rumsfeld_puppets.jpg
....the more pressing questions are whether Bush , Cheney and Rummy have a firm grasp of economic foresight?:cantbeli:

...just hope they didn't get too carried away with the whole PNAC roadmap...
...i suspect he might be reading it upside down... p-)
....i think it's becoming an obsession... p-)
....but hey, don't take my word for it JUST LOOK BELOW!!
:lol: rofl
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/bush_precious.jpg

Seoulstriker
09-20-2003, 01:00 PM
hey! maybe they didn't read Stanley Jevons, "The Coal Question". This bloke thought that England was on the verge of economic collapse because the supply of coal is getting much much smaller as more dependence is put on coal. hey, guess what, that guy was wrong, and these authors are wrong.

there are vast, vast, vast supplies of oil in the world. we have not even tapped them yet. these idiots are insinuating that the supply is going to run out soon. thus, the idea that invading iraq is a smokescreen is idiotic. everyone knows why the US destroyed the Hussein regime: human rights, WMD, and terrorism.

sooner, rather than later, there will be alternatives to oil.

usa320
09-20-2003, 06:43 PM
AM i the only one who finds SCuzzyWuzzy's sense of humor downright abnoxious?

:roll:

Mortimer
09-21-2003, 01:08 AM
AM i the only one who finds SCuzzyWuzzy's sense of humor downright abnoxious?

:roll:

abnoxious as in the truth? ;)

good work fuzzi woot

Mortimer
09-21-2003, 01:11 AM
everyone knows why the US destroyed the Hussein regime: human rights, WMD, and terrorism.

sooner, rather than later, there will be alternatives to oil.

who told you that?

JiJoMacLE45
09-21-2003, 01:30 AM
Here we go again. Clear left, clear right, range is hot.

Mortimer
09-21-2003, 01:38 AM
yeah i don't think i could be bothered...don't answer