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flanker7
10-14-2004, 04:32 PM
Two Hellenic Air Force F-16Ds crashed on a mountain side during flight in low cloud. All four aviators presumed dead.

May God rest their soul

Roktiken
10-14-2004, 04:56 PM
RIP :(

anyword on the cause of the crash's?

von_Moo142
10-14-2004, 04:59 PM
RIP


anyword on the cause of the crash's?

Low cloud and mountains are a fairly dangerous combination, even with modern avionics.

Roktiken
10-14-2004, 05:03 PM
True I would however of thought maby mechanical problems may of been involved.

hey
10-14-2004, 06:59 PM
RIP :(

Lupin
10-14-2004, 07:08 PM
Two Hellenic Air Force F-16Ds crashed on a mountain side during flight in low cloud. All four aviators presumed dead.

May God rest their soul

RIP :|

Rantanplan
10-14-2004, 07:15 PM
RIP

achilles
10-15-2004, 07:12 AM
I just heard that all four pilots were found dead. For the time being, noone can say for sure why they crashed.

RIP

yiorgo
10-15-2004, 07:29 AM
RIP my greek brothers

-Max2-
10-15-2004, 07:29 AM
Damn... :(

Rest In Peace.

flanker7
10-15-2004, 08:49 AM
First assumptions say that the most likely cause is that the flight leader suffered vertigo, disorientation and loss of trust in the aircraft's instruments.

aartamen
10-15-2004, 09:02 AM
But not a collision?

achilles
10-15-2004, 12:06 PM
no not a collision...it appears like that some sort of miscalculation took place in very bad weather conditions. They havent said enough yet

aartamen
10-15-2004, 12:16 PM
Thanks. Tragic. :(

mack pl
10-15-2004, 01:35 PM
RIP

flanker7
10-15-2004, 02:22 PM
As more info comes out it is reported that the crash site is 3miles(other reported 6miles) off course. And that at the time of the tragedy the two airplanes were practising ''cloud pounctiaring''(I don't know the correct term), keeping formation while going through clouds. This accident brings the HAF's F-16D's Block 30 to 4. There are also 8 Block 50 and 20 Block 52+ D models. But the hardware loss is irrelevant when people lives are lost.

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aartamen
10-15-2004, 02:44 PM
Were they both trainers?

achilles
10-16-2004, 05:35 AM
There were two trainers and two trainees involved, all of them dead. They were flying in this specific way (not aware of the english terminology), according to which the first plane was the leader and the second one was following 'blindly'. Now there are two scenarios...first, a collision between the two that lead both of them to the mountain, this does not sound very likely however. Second, the leader made a mistake/miscalculation that inevitable forced both planes to crash. The conditions were very difficult, it was very foggy, and thats the scope of the training, to teach them how to fly in such bad conditions. There are extremely high risks involved and accidents like that are expected...

NicNZ
10-16-2004, 07:25 AM
Maybe the Cypriot S-300's had a go? :)

flanker7
10-16-2004, 10:18 AM
Maybe the Cypriot S-300's had a go? :)


Maybe you should't have posted that