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centa
10-14-2004, 05:24 PM
results of the Italian navy raider during ww1 and ww2 ( DECIMA fLOTTIGLIA m.a.s.)

WW1:

BATTLE SHIP "viribus Unitis" 21.370 t SUNK
STEAMSHIP "Wien" 7.400 t DAMAGED

WW2:
1941
HEAVY CRUISER "York" 8.250 t DAMAGED
TANKER "PERICLES" DAMAGED

TANKER "Fiona Shell" 2.444 t SUNK
SHIP "Durnham" 10.900 t DAMAGED
TANKER "Denbydale" 8.145 t DAMAGED

HMS BATTLE SHIP "Valiant" 30.600 t H. DAMAGED
HMS BATTLE SHIP "Queen Elizabeth" 30.600 t DAMAGED
TANKER "Sagona" 7.554 t H. DAMAGED
DESTROYER "Jervis" 1.690 t DAMAGED

1942

SHIP " Meta" 1.575 t DAMAGED
SHIP "Shuma" 1.494 t DAMAGED
SHIP "Empire Snipe" 2.497 t DAMAGED
SHIP "Baron Douglas" 3.899 t DAMAGED

HMS DESTROYER " Eridge" 1.050 t H.DAMAGED

STEAMSHIP "Ravens Point" 1.787 SUNK

STEAMSHIP "Ocean Vanquisher" 7.174 t SUNK
STEAMSHIP "Berto" 1.493 t SUNK
STEAMSHIP "eMPIRE cENTAUR" 7.041 T DAMAGED
STEAMSHIP " Armattan" 6.587 t DAMAGED

1943

TANKER "Pat Horrison" 7.191 t DAMAGED
TANKER "Mahsud" 7.540 t DAMAGED
TANKER "Camerata" DAMAGED

STEAMSHIP "Orion" 7.000 t SUNK

STEAMSHIP "kaiatuna" 4.914 t SUNK

STEAMSHIP "Fernplant" 7.000 SUNK

TANKER ""thorshovdi" 9.944 t SUNK
TANKER "Harrison Gray Otis" 7.176 t SUNK
STEAMSHIP " Stanridge" 5.975 t DAMAGED

1944 (Italian navy raiders under Allied control)

CRUISER "Bolzano" xxxx t SUNK

CARRIER "Aquila" xxxx t DAMAGED

(Italian navy raiders under R.S.I. control)

PATROLBOAT USS "PC545" SUNK
MINESWEEPER USS "Pioner" DAMAGED

DESTROYER "xxxx" DAMAGED

DESTOYER "trombe" H. DAMAGED

centa
10-14-2004, 06:11 PM
italy had very bad performances under mussolini control, but some corps did a god work:

X M.A.S. is the moust famous Italian special corp of WW2 sunk or destoyed approximately 80% of all ships hit by special forces) . Frogmen from this corp after the war founded 2 israelian navy raiders corps, the Egiptian Navy R., and the Argentinian Navy R.

Batt. Arditi. (army raiders) . in 1943 , fling from Italy,they hit airports and railways in Tunisia, Lybia under allied control.

A.D.R.A (Arditi Distruttori Regia Aeronautica) ( Air force raiders) Very short life. only one mission. North africa. 1943. 25 b-17 destoyed (!!!) and 50 crewmen killed.

Para division "Folgore" 1943. Used in Al Alamain battle as simple infranty divion. completely destroyed after the battle. 90 Sherman-Grant tank Knocked out....... With anty-tank artillery? 88mm? no....satchel charges, modified hand granades and iron pipes put beetween caterpillars and wheels.....

moughoun
10-14-2004, 06:21 PM
Italy practically invented modern navel special warfare :D

centa
10-14-2004, 06:38 PM
I know that this story is incredible but is TRUE: in 1945 X M.A.S. was planning to do a demostration raid in the New York bay with some frogmen. But some days before the 4 engined FIAT seaplane was destroyed by a bombardament on a north Italy lake.
It could be an interesting "what if" mission....

penna
10-14-2004, 06:44 PM
I know that this story is incredible but is TRUE: in 1945 X M.A.S. was planning to do a demostration raid in the New York bay with some frogmen. But some days before the 4 engined FIAT seaplane was destroyed by a bombardament on a north Italy lake.
It could be an interesting "what if" mission....

how were they gonna get to new york from italy in a 4 engined Fiat seaplane? they wouldn't have made it.

centa
10-15-2004, 09:07 AM
New info about the planned mission: airplane CANT Z.511 4 engines Piaggio PXII-RC35 cruiser speed: 400Km/h range: 4500Km

obiective: New york or north african arbours.

VEHICLES-CREW: 1 M.A.S. or 2 "chariots" S.L.C. or 7 frogmen
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X M.A.S. (UNDER R.S.I. CONTROL)
also
1944 TANK CARRIER USS LST 305 SUNK

X M.A.S. also operated for some months on Black Sea near Crimea 1943
and some m.a.s. on Ladoga lake during Leningrad siege

For more informations: " Underwater warriors" Paul Kemp
" I mezzi d'assalto dlla X flottiglia mas" Marco spertini-Erminio Bagnasco

RFSU
10-15-2004, 11:12 AM
Italy practically invented modern navel special warfare :D

Soo true! and they are still one of the best in their field.

centa
10-16-2004, 06:21 AM
Pictures!!!

Italian submarine with tankers for S.L.C.:

http://img94.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img94&image=somavv1.jpg

"chariot" S.L.C.:

http://img97.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img97&image=slc1prova.jpg