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Seraphim
09-22-2003, 08:52 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=3&u=/ap/20030922/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_bush_poll_1

So whos voting for who?




By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Democrat Wesley Clark, in the presidential race for less than a week, is tied with President Bush (news - web sites) in a head-to-head matchup, according to a poll that shows several Democratic candidates strongly challenging the Republican incumbent.



Clark, a retired Army general, garnered 49 percent support to Bush's 46 percent, which is essentially a tie given the poll's margin of error. The CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll was conducted Sept. 19-21, beginning two days after Clark announced he would become the 10th Democratic candidate for the party's nomination.


Several other Democrats who have been in the race for months also were close to Bush in direct matchups. Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) of Massachusetts and Sen. Joe Lieberman (news - web sites) of Connecticut also were tied with the president, while Bush held a slight lead over former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (news - web sites) and Rep. **** Gephardt (news - web sites) of Missouri.


In the head-to-head confrontations, it was Kerry at 48 percent to Bush's 47 percent; and Bush's 48 percent to Lieberman's 47 percent. Bush held a slight lead over Dean, 49-45 percent, and had a similar advantage over Gephardt.


Separately, Clark led all Democratic candidates in the survey released Monday that showed Bush far more vulnerable.


The president's job approval was 50 percent, with 47 percent disapproving. The public gave Bush high marks for having the personality and leadership qualities of a chief executive. But just over half, 51 percent, said they disagreed with the president on issues that matter most to them, while 46 percent agree.


Republican pollster Bill McInturff cautioned against making too much of Clark's early strength in a national poll taken so close to his well-publicized entry into the presidential race.


"There are plenty of examples where you get this enormous bounce and it usually settles quickly," said McInturff, citing Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record)'s showing in a South Carolina poll taken after his victory in the 2000 New Hampshire primary in 2000.


Public opinion is extremely unpredictable early in the election cycle as voters have not focused on the race, according to McInturff, who noted that Republican Bob Dole was running ahead of President Clinton (news - web sites) the year before the election. Clinton prevailed in 1996.


Still, Clark's strong showing in early polls — a Newsweek survey this past weekend showed Clark grouped among the leaders in the Democratic field and not far behind Bush in a head-to-head matchup — will impress Democratic donors, said Dane Strother, a Democratic strategist not aligned with any of the campaigns.


"If you're number one in the polls, I don't care when it happens," said Strother, who pointed out that Democratic activists also will be closely watching Clark, and "you only get one chance to make a good first impression."


The battle for the party nomination will be fought state by state, and Clark's strength in early-voting states such as Iowa and New Hampshire will be crucial. National polls tend to reflect name recognition and aren't the most accurate indicator of a candidate's viability.


Among voters who are Democratic or lean Democratic, Clark led all Democratic candidates with 22 percent, Dean had 13 percent, Kerry and Gephardt 11 percent and Lieberman 10 percent. The remaining candidates were in the low single digits.


The poll of 1,003 adults, including 877 registered voters, had a margin of error of plus of minus 3 percentage points, 4 points for registered voters.

Vance
09-22-2003, 08:55 PM
Oh God..

Seraphim
09-22-2003, 09:01 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/969659.asp

Looks like hes doing to spite the republicans.

Operation Ivy
09-22-2003, 09:05 PM
Im voting for clark :)

Vance
09-22-2003, 09:07 PM
Isn't Clark the same guy who almost started WWIII?

usa320
09-22-2003, 09:44 PM
Yeah, he ordered NATO forces to engage russian forces in Serbia.

Thankfully the NATO commanders disregarded his order.

budanski
09-22-2003, 09:57 PM
Do you want a guy who will invade two countries and overthrow their governments, or do you want a guy who might support it, might not support it, might support it but not exactly the way we're going about it, don't ask me these kinds of questions.

army cadet_ngcsu
09-22-2003, 10:44 PM
Clark would be nothing if it was not from the Clintons. Clark is Bill's bitch and the only reason why he has those stars is because of him. Clark has been known as a lack lustered military leader who is very selfish. Col. Hackworth and many others in the military and who served under him have nothing positive to say about him.

96B
09-22-2003, 10:47 PM
This is a perfect example of people simply looking for an alternative to Bush without even knowing anything about that person. Clark has yet to really talk about the issues and how he stands specifically with the things Bush is being criticized for. He will try to play on what is popular which is exactly what the Democrats do to try to get votes. Obviously all politicians try to get votes, but Bush has been steadfast with what he believes is right whereas the Democrats have changed their views so many times Ive lost count. Just because Clark was a military man doesnt mean hes got balls to stand up to our enemies and I am not saying that he is a pussy but one should not make assumptions.

Zach R.
09-22-2003, 10:54 PM
"I would have probably voted for the war". "No. I would have never voted for the war". "Is is not is, but is the definition of is. But then again, is is the definition of is. Also, it is be, isisisisis is is isi siisisisisis".
Is any democrat in this world confident enough to give the definition of is?

is- See be

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