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jdbjdb
09-23-2003, 12:55 AM
Time to drill Alaska for oil, sorry Eco people, sorry Saudi's

Skaman
09-23-2003, 01:12 AM
Just dont dream of sending a line all the way through canada for free to the oil suckin usa, not gonna happen. Alaska should technically be ours, but whatever. The Russians nabbed it first and sold it to you guys for cheap, so fair is fair.

Ratamacue
09-23-2003, 01:14 AM
Bitter, much?

He219
09-23-2003, 01:15 AM
Take off, hoser.

Skaman
09-23-2003, 01:17 AM
Its something ive always felt bitter about, but hey, what are you gonna do. I love the states, but we are the nook of the north, and I want to keep it that way, kind of a Canadian disticntion ya know?

Jack Mehoff
09-23-2003, 01:43 AM
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=606260

Seiyuuki
09-23-2003, 02:32 AM
When are the Russians going to drill Siberia...and I mean really drill it, I heard the potential reserves in Siberia would make the entire Persian Gulf's reserve look like child play. With that much resources, Russia could actually get a whole lot of hard currency to revitalize its whole economy.

Mortimer
09-23-2003, 04:52 AM
well while you guys go all for the drilling, heres some food for thought

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/23/1064082959914.html

budanski
09-23-2003, 09:22 AM
Ah yes, some food for thought :roll:

The cold snap that civilised the world (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/02/22/wnino22.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/02/22/ixworld.html)
Middle Ages were warmer than today, say scientists (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$52GELIRNTXZNDQFIQMGSFF4AVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2003/04/06/nclim06.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/06/ixhome.html)
20th Century Climate Not So Hot (http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/press/pr0310.html)

Heres a little concept. Temperatures fluctuate throughout time. The warming of the earth is due to the sun stupid.

Tens and tens of thousands of years ago, this planet was so warm, the Sahara was a grass land. (High humidity)

Until the enviro-weenies can explain how global warming took place prior to PEOPLE, I'm not listening.

Deuterium
09-23-2003, 09:39 AM
Just dont dream of sending a line all the way through canada for free to the oil suckin usa, not gonna happen. Alaska should technically be ours, but whatever. The Russians nabbed it first and sold it to you guys for cheap, so fair is fair.

As apposed to the other HUNDREDS of existing pipelines between the two countries, the THOUSANDS of electrical lines between the two countries.... Oh yeah, your all over this issue....NOT!!!!! Last time I looked one of the most popular vehicles(best selling) in Canada was the Ford F150. Oil sucking indeed bubba, look in the mirror.

Herrmannek
09-23-2003, 09:42 AM
Yup. Budanski you are right.

Mortimer
09-23-2003, 11:20 PM
well if you guys believe that i feel sorry for you.

Budanski you may be right, but global warming is making world tempretures increase at a faster rate.....theres a difference.

Seoulstriker
09-24-2003, 11:58 AM
hey, mortimer, can you cite some evidence that increased global temparature are cause by man?

ibstolidude
09-24-2003, 12:17 PM
as Robin Williams said:

"Canada is like a loft apartment over a really great party. - hey keep it down, eh!"


:oops: - hey GIVE ME A Break it was my first potshot at another country on this forum in ???many posts... i figured the least I could do is offer to a neighbor that US benefits from.

Seraphim
09-24-2003, 01:54 PM
Did you know Canada import more oil to the US than any other country.
For some reason they sell it cheaper to the US than to their own people.
:roll:

Seraphim
09-24-2003, 01:55 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030923/arctic_shelf_graphic.gif


The largest ice shelf in the Arctic, a solid feature for 3,000 years, has broken up, scientists in the United States and Canada said on September 22, 2003. They said the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf, on the north coast of Ellesmere Island in Canada's Nunavut territory, broke into two main parts, themselves cut through with fissures. A freshwater lake drained into the sea, the researchers reported. (******* Graphic)




By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (*******) - The largest ice shelf in the Arctic, a solid feature for 3,000 years, has broken up, scientists in the United States and Canada said on Monday.


They said the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf, on the north coast of Ellesmere Island in Canada's Nunavut territory, broke into two main parts, themselves cut through with fissures. A freshwater lake drained into the sea, the researchers reported.


Large ice islands also calved off from the shelf and some are large enough to be dangerous to shipping and to drilling platforms in the Beaufort Sea.


Local warming of the climate is to blame, they said -- adding that they did not have the evidence needed to link the melting ice to the steady, planet-wide climate change known as global warming (news - web sites).


Warwick Vincent and Derek Mueller of Laval University in Quebec City, Canada, and Martin Jeffries of the University of Alaska Fairbanks lived at the site, flew over it and used radar satellite imaging for their study.


Writing in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, Vincent's team said all of the fresh water poured out of the 20 mile long Disraeli Fjord.


This in turn has affected communities of freshwater and marine species of plankton and algae, said Mueller, a graduate student who has studied the tiny creatures.


Only 100 years ago the whole northern coast of Ellesmere Island, which is the northernmost land mass of North America, was edged by a continuous ice shelf. About 90 percent of it is now gone, Vincent's team wrote.


The area has been getting warmer, they said. A similar trend in the Antarctic has caused the break-up of huge ice shelves there.


"There's a regional trend in warming that cycles back 150 years," Mueller said in a telephone interview. "I am not comfortable linking it to global warming. It is difficult to tease out what is due to global warming and what is due to regional warming."


Records indicate an increase of four-tenths of a degree centigrade every 10 years since 1967. The average July temperature has been 1.3 degrees Celsius or 34 degrees F -- just above the freezing point -- since 1967.


Climate change has affected ocean temperature, salinity and flow patterns, which also influence the break-up of ice shelves in the Antarctic. "It's not just as simple as it gets x degrees warmer and the ice melts this much," Mueller said.


Warmer temperatures weaken the ice, leaving it vulnerable to changed currents and other forces.

budanski
09-24-2003, 03:24 PM
Oh dear, I guess my spring baby seal hunt will have to be cancelled. Darn!

Skaman
09-24-2003, 03:38 PM
arrogant asshole

Trigger
09-24-2003, 04:18 PM
dumbass18 wrote

Just dont dream of sending a line all the way through canada for free to the oil suckin usa, not gonna happen. Alaska should technically be ours, but whatever.
arrogant asshole

Wow, I've always wondered, but now I know, after reading your posts I've figured out where they got the name for the stage play known as 'The ****** Monologues'

*Making the 'Big Giant V' with my fingers* :cantbeli:

Trigger
09-24-2003, 04:20 PM
Budanski wrote:

Oh dear, I guess my spring baby seal hunt will have to be cancelled. Darn!

Nah, we'll just rent a kayak and go 'clubbing' rofl

Fargin
09-24-2003, 05:19 PM
Budanski wrote:

Oh dear, I guess my spring baby seal hunt will have to be cancelled. Darn!

Nah, we'll just rent a kayak and go 'clubbing' rofl

I recommend Disco bay in Greenland.