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Apogeumus
10-31-2004, 03:10 PM
Hi

On photos from December 2003 from Camp Babilon in Iraq, GROM operators have new kind of modular vest (or plate carrier). It's made propably of cordura DuPont in french camo pattern. The modular system is molle (or something similar). The questions are, who made those vests and what is their name?
For me it's look like Janysport products (operators have firs aid pouch and 20l buckpack made by Janysport, so vest propably also is Janysport). Could anybody help me, know the answers?
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4705/Kwashnyevski7.jpg

wholagun
10-31-2004, 06:29 PM
I don't think its GROM but PSK1. GROM uses MP5 and M4 among other western made weapons.

Apogeumus
11-01-2004, 07:40 AM
I don't think its GROM but PSK1. GROM uses MP5 and M4 among other western made weapons.

very interesing... but it is GROM armed with m4

jean-marc6969
11-01-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Apogeumus :

It's made propably of cordura DuPont in french camo pattern


The modular system is molle (or something similar).

I can t see anything there even close from the beginning of a French Camo.

Actually in France none of our military equipments manufacter make gear with MOLLE / PALS.

Apogeumus
11-01-2004, 11:48 AM
I can t see anything there even close from the beginning of a French Camo.


I've seen better photos of this vest, but I haven't it on my computer, so I can't post it. So you can belive me, that it is french camo pattern.

mack pl
11-09-2004, 03:03 PM
I can t see anything there even close from the beginning of a French Camo.


I've seen better photos of this vest, but I haven't it on my computer, so I can't post it. So you can belive me, that it is french camo pattern.

In the last MMS Komandos, at front page is photo of GROM member(Blackwater PMC killed in Iraq, RIP), and he had this vest. If you have scaner, maybe you can post it here?

pozdro

Apogeumus
11-09-2004, 03:17 PM
I can t see anything there even close from the beginning of a French Camo.


I've seen better photos of this vest, but I haven't it on my computer, so I can't post it. So you can belive me, that it is french camo pattern.

In the last MMS Komandos, at front page is photo of GROM member(Blackwater PMC killed in Iraq, RIP), and he had this vest. If you have scaner, maybe you can post it here?

pozdro

I haven't scenner. I'm sure that tis vest is made in Poland.

mack pl
11-09-2004, 03:19 PM
I can t see anything there even close from the beginning of a French Camo.


I've seen better photos of this vest, but I haven't it on my computer, so I can't post it. So you can belive me, that it is french camo pattern.

In the last MMS Komandos, at front page is photo of GROM member(Blackwater PMC killed in Iraq, RIP), and he had this vest. If you have scaner, maybe you can post it here?

pozdro

I haven't scenner. I'm sure that tis vest is made in Poland.

well, probably its made in some little firm in Warsaw or something like that

BTW but you have this new Komandos?This article about ex-GROM memebrs was interesting.

Pozdro

Apogeumus
11-09-2004, 03:35 PM
I can t see anything there even close from the beginning of a French Camo.


I've seen better photos of this vest, but I haven't it on my computer, so I can't post it. So you can belive me, that it is french camo pattern.

In the last MMS Komandos, at front page is photo of GROM member(Blackwater PMC killed in Iraq, RIP), and he had this vest. If you have scaner, maybe you can post it here?

pozdro

I haven't scenner. I'm sure that tis vest is made in Poland.

well, probably its made in some little firm in Warsaw or something like that

BTW but you have this new Komandos?This article about ex-GROM memebrs was interesting.

Pozdro


Yes, artiicle (and photos) are interest.

Argyll
11-09-2004, 03:47 PM
looks a bit like Paraclette gear

mack pl
12-22-2004, 10:43 AM
another pic of this vest

http://grom.mil.pl/galeria_pliki/Irak_pliki/30.jpg

volfram
12-22-2004, 01:06 PM
This is American body armor FSBE AAV.Link http://www.specwargear.com/images/armor&vest-aav-coyote-1.jpg
Desert version here.

Marmot1
12-22-2004, 08:51 PM
maybe new MORATEX experiment

here is old MORATEX west

Field use

http://acn.waw.pl/grom1/grom294.jpg

and here is from MORATEX site...

http://acn.waw.pl/grom1/Moratex.jpg

mack pl
12-23-2004, 02:26 AM
I doubt its from MORATEX....Volfram is right I guess...anyway, are you sure second pic is from Moratex site? ;) Pic was taken by Kruglerek(MP.net member)... :lol:

Pozdro :)

Marmot1
12-23-2004, 10:28 AM
I doubt its from MORATEX....Volfram is right I guess...anyway, are you sure second pic is from Moratex site? ;) Pic was taken by Kruglerek(MP.net member)... :lol:

Pozdro :)

Well OK you won.. wanna cookie? p-)

Seriously I riped it from some site and I was sure that it comes from MORATEX directly or from some expo or so.

mack pl
12-23-2004, 02:19 PM
Well OK you won.. wanna cookie? p-)

yes :D

Seriously I riped it from some site and I was sure that it comes from MORATEX directly or from some expo or so.[/quote]

mkay ;) I dont know when and where Kruglerek take this pic, but I doubt he is working for MORATEX ;)

PS. Marines have this vest (FSBE AAV), so maybe GROM guys saw this vest in action and decided to buy "few" pieces (GROM had worked with FAST in Iraq )...