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100%Marine
03-12-2003, 09:16 PM
Stars and Stripes is the Armed Forces Newspaper, its a legit paper serving the military since the Civil War. By no means is it a Solider of Fortune. Go to the link and tell me what you think.
http://ww2.pstripes.osd.mil/01/oct01/ed101701f.html

Apogee
03-12-2003, 10:31 PM
100%, great article. If anyone is looking for a pretty indepth look at Delta Selection, i would recommend The Commandos by Douglas C. Waller. It gives very detailed look at what goes on there, and from what I hear, its decently accurate. Just food for thought.

Jack
03-13-2003, 12:10 AM
I don't care what the article says, Delta only takes Army applicants. If a SEAL or FR guy wanted to join Delta, he'd hafta get out the the Navy or Corps., then join the Army and be in for "a while" before he got a shot at their selection. ****'n dip****, non-research doin', too much movie watchn', ass clown journalists!!!

96B
03-13-2003, 07:06 AM
Delta recruits mainly Army SF and Rangers etc but does have other service applicants dude. Guys back me up on this.

Piccolo
03-13-2003, 07:24 AM
As far as I know yes, only Army recruits (all MOS's) can go to Delta. I can't imagen they treat Delta Selection/OCS like other Army School's SOF attend IE; Ranger School,Jump School,SERE,etc. According to info I have as well, selection is no longer constituded of individuals picked to be there, but that Selection is open to everyone, if they meet the requirments of course. They run Selection twice a year apparently; in Fall, and Spring.

SHOOTERB
03-13-2003, 08:52 AM
Only Army pers go through the selection course. There may be other services working in the compound but they have not attended the training course, which by the way is called "OTC" not "OCS". If there is someone out there that has a certain skill that the boys need then they will bring the guy over until they get trained up on it.

Apogee
03-13-2003, 09:13 AM
I'll agree with Shooter, as usual. But if Delta is like SF, they are not going to be taking just any candidates. For instance, if the Army has spend millions of dollars to train you as an Apache Longbow pilot, they are not going to be sending you to an SOF. It just doesn't make sence. There are only a select few MOS's which this applies, but I thought it might be noteworthy.

Bala ya khumak
03-13-2003, 10:39 AM
I don't care what the article says, Delta only takes Army applicants. If a SEAL or FR guy wanted to join Delta, he'd hafta get out the the Navy or Corps., then join the Army and be in for "a while" before he got a shot at their selection. f***'n dip****, non-research doin', too much movie watchn', ass clown journalists!!!


I was under the impression that 'Delta' recruitment was similar to that of the S.A.S., in that volunteers from any arm/branch of the military could apply for selection – I know this is the case with officers.
This is the criterion for officers:

-Male

-Volunteer

-U.S. Citizen

-Pass a modified Class II Flight Physical

-Airborne qualified or volunteer for airborne training

-Pass a background security investigation and have at least a secret clearance.

-Pass the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT), FM 21-20,75 points each event in the 22-26 age group, (55 pushups in two minutes, 62situps in two minutes, and a 2 mile run in 15:06 or less), wearing your unit PT uniform.

-Minimum of two years active service remaining upon selectionto the unit.

-Captain or Major (Branch Immaterial).

-Advance Course graduate.

-College graduate (BA or BS).

-Minimum of 12 months successful command (as a Captain).

-1st SFOD-D conducts worldwide recruiting twice a year to process potential candidates for the Assessment and Selection Course. Processing for the March Course is from October through January. Processing for the September Course takes place April through July.

-Assignments with 1st SFOD-D provide realistic training and experiences that are both personally and professionally rewarding.

The U.S. Army's 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1stSFOD-D) plans and conducts a broad range of special operations across the operationalcontinuum. Delta is organized for the conduct of missions requiring rapid response with surgical applications of a wide variety of unique skills,whilemaintaining the lowest possible profile of U.S. involvement.

Assignment to 1st SFOD-D involves an extensive prescreening process,successful completion of a 3 to 4 week mentally and physically demandingAssessment and Selection Course, and a 6 month operator Training Course.Upon successful completion of these courses officers are assigned to anoperational position within the unit.

As an officer in 1st SFOD-D, you will have added opportunities to command at the CPT, MAJ, and LTC levels. You may also serve as an Operations Officer.Afterservice with 1st SFOD-D there are a wide variety of staff positions availableto you at DOD, JCS, DA, USASOC, USSOCOM, and other joint headquarters becauseof your training and experience. In addition, there are interagency positionsavailable to you as well.

Source: PERSCOM Online

SHOOTERB
03-13-2003, 12:19 PM
All the above is true. The world wide phrase means anywhere there is a U.S. Army instalation. If you were a longbow pilot chances are your branch will not let you attend. Most pilots like what they do and very rarely want to leave the aviation field. There are always exceptions.

Now on the other hand alot of ex-CAG guys switch over to become pilots and eventually go to SOAR.

Whisper
03-13-2003, 01:44 PM
For the best information on Army recruiting methods and requirements for all the elite school, this is your best source of intell. The Hooah schools by Robert S. Bertrand.

100%Marine
03-13-2003, 04:40 PM
Okay, my point is that recuitment occurs throughout the armed services. Once selected to attend A&S, however, non-Army personnel must transfer into the Army.

Piccolo
03-13-2003, 09:19 PM
Thanks for pointing out my error there, Shooterb. Been alittle while since I have read Inside DF.