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SeanAshi
11-03-2004, 09:43 PM
Democratic presidential challenger Senator John Kerry secured an overwhelming 78 percent of Jewish votes in Tuesday's presidential election - just two percent less than the Jewish vote Al Gore received four years ago.Can we trade voters with Israel? Send us some right wing jews and we can send Israel a whole lot of leftwing jews. rofl

UkrainianAmerican
11-03-2004, 10:50 PM
Pussyass leftie jews. I HATE them. Except for my nigga starvingstudent. Hes just confused.

UkrainianAmerican
11-03-2004, 10:52 PM
Democratic presidential challenger Senator John Kerry secured an overwhelming 78 percent of Jewish votes in Tuesday's presidential election - just two percent less than the Jewish vote Al Gore received four years ago.Can we trade voters with Israel? Send us some right wing jews and we can send Israel a whole lot of leftwing jews. rofl
I guess all the rightwing american jews moved to israel. :lol:

SeanAshi
11-03-2004, 11:14 PM
Ehud Barak wants control of the Labor Party I suppose a leftest showdown with Peres is coming...we need Bi Bi in America.

UkrainianAmerican
11-03-2004, 11:33 PM
Ehud Barak wants control of the Labor Party I suppose a leftest showdown with Peres is coming...we need Bi Bi in America.
If barak pushes peres out, Labor is gonna becoem more centrist.

fred_engles
11-04-2004, 12:18 AM
Ehud Barak wants control of the Labor Party I suppose a leftest showdown with Peres is coming...we need Bi Bi in America.
If barak pushes peres out, Labor is gonna becoem more centrist.With them voting in support of disengagement (effectively meaning that Sharon gets more unified support from labour than from his own party) means they've already gone centrist. Labour supports Sharon's west bank fence as well (indeed, both the pullout and the fence are ideas that originated on the left).

army cadet_ngcsu
11-04-2004, 01:16 AM
Speaking as an American Jew who is conservative and who has been raised in the South (ATL nigga what). It is unfortunate that most Jews in the country live in LA and NY because I think that it is something in the water in those places, cause mostly everyone has their heads up their asses, not just the Jews. Look at the voter registration and records, everyone, black or white or Chinese or Eskimo all vote liberally in NY and LA.

Sayeret
11-04-2004, 01:17 AM
I'm not really sure why most Jews are Democrats.

szr
11-04-2004, 01:33 AM
rofl



When do I get my 4th star?

fred_engles
11-04-2004, 01:35 AM
I'm not really sure why most Jews are Democrats.Umm..because we're liberal. [Seriously, it's that simple. We simply come down on the democratic side on the issues.]

SeanAshi
11-04-2004, 02:17 AM
I'm not really sure why most Jews are DemocratsA couple of months back starvingstudent explained why most Jewish Americans vote democrat and it did make some sense I'll go back and track it down.

American Patriot
11-04-2004, 02:25 AM
Well.. it's because Jews have been historically commies. :lol: And apparently masochists since anti-semitism in America has moved to the left a long time ago.

SeanAshi
11-04-2004, 02:37 AM
Damn Leon Trotsky!

Midav
11-04-2004, 02:50 AM
Dunno if it can be verified, but it was said today that this is up from just some ~20% Jewish voters voting for Bush/Republicans in 2000.

RavenW
11-04-2004, 08:04 AM
I'm not really sure why most Jews are Democrats.

Lets make a correction here "American-pussy-flower-smelling-pot-smoking-tree-hugging-Palestine-kissing" Jews are Democrats.

Jews who lived in Europe and remember on their own skin what is to live under anti-Semitism voted Bush. Believe me! ;)

Elmo
11-04-2004, 08:39 AM
Lets make a correction here "American-pussy-flower-smelling-pot-smoking-tree-hugging-Palestine-kissing" Jews are Democrats.

Jews who lived in Europe and remember on their own skin what is to live under anti-Semitism voted Bush. Believe me! ;)

Isn't that just a little bit over the top? What is there is Bush's policy that would make those people who suffered enormously back then benefit from? Is Bush doing something incredible to the Jewish community in America?

When it comes to Israel, do you think Kerry would have let them down? Was that to be seen? And the 70% + of the Jewish people in America failed to see it but YOU and those who saw hell in Europe saw in Kerry the traitor of your people?

:| ihme ukko :|

Mr Gently Benevolent
11-04-2004, 10:03 AM
Jews who lived in Europe and remember on their own skin what is to live under anti-Semitism voted Bush. Believe me! ;)
This does not ring true for me, most european jews will be centre to left though I do think a good number of the jews from former eastern block countries will swing to the right.

aartamen
11-04-2004, 10:15 AM
It puzzles me to no end. May be the Jews just subconsciously repulsed by Christian appeal of the Republican party.

Mr Gently Benevolent
11-04-2004, 10:20 AM
It puzzles me to no end. May be the Jews just subconsciously repulsed by Christian appeal of the Republican party.
Yeah it could be that the "praise Jeezus" stuff does not go down all that well.

big80a2
11-04-2004, 11:54 AM
how canyou monitor that? They said in the news they are not able to count howmuch blacks went to the poles, so why can they count them?

aartamen
11-04-2004, 02:06 PM
Surveys.

cut
11-04-2004, 02:33 PM
It puzzles me to no end. May be the Jews just subconsciously repulsed by Christian appeal of the Republican party.

I agree

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/04.08.31.PartyDisfavors-X.gif

machupichu
11-04-2004, 07:09 PM
jews are urban people. no braindead cowboys.

SeanAshi
11-04-2004, 07:20 PM
jews are urban people. no braindead cowboys.Care to elaborate on that?

Sayeret
11-04-2004, 07:23 PM
Lets make a correction here "American-pussy-flower-smelling-pot-smoking-tree-hugging-Palestine-kissing" Jews are Democrats.

I wouldn't say that. Although a lot of my Jewish friends are Democrats, none of them are hippies. I've only met a few Jewish hippies.

RavenW
11-04-2004, 07:47 PM
Lets make a correction here "American-pussy-flower-smelling-pot-smoking-tree-hugging-Palestine-kissing" Jews are Democrats.

I wouldn't say that. Although a lot of my Jewish friends are Democrats, none of them are hippies. I've only met a few Jewish hippies.

Man, you should go to my beloved San Francisco.

Or Berkeley or Santa Cruz...

machupichu
11-04-2004, 07:49 PM
jews are urban people. no braindead cowboys.Care to elaborate on that?
in short terms: the nationalists, hillbillies and fundamentalists vote bush, the rest kerry. the "electoral map" speaks for itself.

RavenW
11-04-2004, 07:52 PM
jews are urban people. no braindead cowboys.Care to elaborate on that?
in short terms: the nationalists, hillbillies and fundamentalists vote bush, the rest kerry. the "election map" speaks for itself.

have you ever been in the States at all? :roll:

machupichu
11-04-2004, 07:55 PM
have you ever been in the States at all? :roll:
do you see the link between the mid states and bush votes, and coastal areas and kerry? do you acknowledge the cosmopolitan tradition in those regions?

RavenW
11-04-2004, 08:08 PM
have you ever been in the States at all? :roll:
do you see the link between the mid states and bush votes, and coastal areas and kerry? do you acknowledge the cosmopolitan tradition in those regions?

BUSH vs KERRY


Vote by Race and Gender



White Men 62% vs 37%

White Women 55% vs 44%

Non-White Men 30% vs 67%

Non-White Women 24% vs 75%


Vote by Income


Under $15,000 36% vs 63%

$15-30,000 42% vs 57%

$30-50,000 49% vs 50%

$50-75,000 56% vs 43%

$75-100,000 55% vs 45%

$100-150,000 57% vs 42%

$150-200,000 58% vs 42%

$200,000 or More 63% vs 35%




Speaks for itslef

White Men 62% for Bush vs non-White Women 75% for Kerry
I wonder who among those two groups pushes this country forward.

majority of poor under $50 000 for Kerry
Middle Class from $50 000 and above for Bush

SeanAshi
11-04-2004, 08:17 PM
I've been to Berkeley :cantbeli: unfriendly territory

stephane from Paris
11-05-2004, 06:58 AM
US jews are right to fears "Christian integrists way of thinking"!

If republicans goes toward far right wing like they do , they'll meet facism the last step before nazism!!!!
When i see the succes of the Mel Gibson movie's (antisemitic movie for jews and antiracists) in the US, i understand why US jews prefers moderates republicans and democrats.

As noticed, WASP voted for Bush!!!! Are these people, in a country where everybody is american and a son of imigrant, fears to be the minority and loose the control?

In UE political scale, democrats are: socialists+green+ and big majority of center and moderates right wingers!
Republicans are conservatives and far right winger!

In UE too, most of jews are placed in the first group. They supports Bush JUST for israelo-paletinian and Irak conflicts because of their link with Israel.

machupichu
11-05-2004, 07:32 AM
have you ever been in the States at all? :roll:
do you see the link between the mid states and bush votes, and coastal areas and kerry? do you acknowledge the cosmopolitan tradition in those regions?

BUSH vs KERRY


Vote by Race and Gender



White Men 62% vs 37%

White Women 55% vs 44%

Non-White Men 30% vs 67%

Non-White Women 24% vs 75%


Vote by Income


Under $15,000 36% vs 63%

$15-30,000 42% vs 57%

$30-50,000 49% vs 50%

$50-75,000 56% vs 43%

$75-100,000 55% vs 45%

$100-150,000 57% vs 42%

$150-200,000 58% vs 42%

$200,000 or More 63% vs 35%




Speaks for itslef

White Men 62% for Bush vs non-White Women 75% for Kerry
I wonder who among those two groups pushes this country forward.

majority of poor under $50 000 for Kerry
Middle Class from $50 000 and above for Bush
those statistics are insufficient BY FAR. pathetic how you seem to believe those numbers mean anything. kerry got his votes from the poor, the ethnics and the intellectual cosmopolitans. bush got his from the hillbillies, the nationalists and the fundamentalists.

Deuterium
11-05-2004, 10:52 AM
have you ever been in the States at all? :roll:
do you see the link between the mid states and bush votes, and coastal areas and kerry? do you acknowledge the cosmopolitan tradition in those regions?

BUSH vs KERRY


Vote by Race and Gender



White Men 62% vs 37%

White Women 55% vs 44%

Non-White Men 30% vs 67%

Non-White Women 24% vs 75%


Vote by Income


Under $15,000 36% vs 63%

$15-30,000 42% vs 57%

$30-50,000 49% vs 50%

$50-75,000 56% vs 43%

$75-100,000 55% vs 45%

$100-150,000 57% vs 42%

$150-200,000 58% vs 42%

$200,000 or More 63% vs 35%




Speaks for itslef

White Men 62% for Bush vs non-White Women 75% for Kerry
I wonder who among those two groups pushes this country forward.

majority of poor under $50 000 for Kerry
Middle Class from $50 000 and above for Bush
those statistics are insufficient BY FAR. pathetic how you seem to believe those numbers mean anything. kerry got his votes from the poor, the ethnics and the intellectual cosmopolitans. bush got his from the hillbillies, the nationalists and the fundamentalists.

What exactly is a hillbilly and what are your statistics to back up that claim? It really is amazing the hypocrisy of some using derogative terms. The same person who would call someone to task for using one or another slur will readily throw one out if it suits their cause. Watch your use of slurs.

machupichu
11-05-2004, 11:02 AM
i have no statistics. my words have the same value as the arguments based on the statistics posted above.

Deuterium
11-05-2004, 11:05 AM
i have no statistics. my words have the same value as the arguments based on the statistics posted above.

Thanks for your opinion.

kineret
11-05-2004, 11:28 AM
i love how europeans who have zero understanding of united states refer anyone who voted bush as 'hillbillies'. if you look at the map, all those red states must be hillbillie states, and ive never heard of so many hillbillies. even in new jersey which had a very high republican vote. maybe its time our leftist and european friends faced reality and come to grips that theyre out of power and the american people prefer Bush as a commander in chief, not because they are all hillbillies, but because the Democratic agenda is weak and gutless.

aartamen
11-05-2004, 12:58 PM
There are fewer hillbillies in NJ than bears. People just spout nonsense about topics they have no grasp of. Let them. The mere fact that they chose to do so indicates that trying to disabuse them of these notions is futile.

By the way, was not a Jewish cemetery desecrated in France just past week?

Raistlin
11-06-2004, 02:22 PM
Umm..because we're liberal.
I've noticed it too, most jews these days tend to be more liberal than conservative. For example, Israel since the beginning pioneered many liberal concepts and is on par with general Europe right now.

Raistlin
11-06-2004, 02:32 PM
This does not ring true for me, most european jews will be centre to left though I do think a good number of the jews from former eastern block countries will swing to the right.
Yeah, forgot to mention that most Israelis of USSR origin swing heavily to the right. By "right" here I don't mean general "right" but more Israeli "right". I think it's because of the fact that they're impatriants. IMHO repatrians are the ones who want to give up territories the least. I'm sure there can be a book written about this


I wouldn't say that. Although a lot of my Jewish friends are Democrats, none of them are hippies. I've only met a few Jewish hippies.
Go to Goa :)

OB Kenobi
11-07-2004, 01:57 AM
I'm not really sure why most Jews are Democrats.

They still remember when they used to get lynched by Republicans not so long ago.

SeanAshi
11-07-2004, 02:23 AM
They still remember when they used to get lynched by Republicans not so long ago.Thank you Joseph Stalin care to explain this nonsense?

Sir Zach of R.
11-07-2004, 02:34 AM
They still remember when they used to get lynched by Republicans not so long ago.Thank you Joseph Stalin care to explain this nonsense?

Sounds like a pretty empty statement to me. Just firing blanks. :roll: