Classic Army vs. Tokyo Marui

[TacoDelRio]

I come to you guys in a "time of need" (IE so I can waste money) :lol:

I am sick of searching, and I kinda need a fast answer, as I'm about to buy one of these two SMG's. It's down to these two:

-Classic Army MP5SD6 (Whichever they call it, basically the SD with collapsible stock, all metal upper reciever etc)
-Tokyo Marui MP5SD6

Pros - Cons
TM:
-Reliable
-Easy to fix (sorta)
-Reliable!

-Plastic body :|
-Broken cocking tube parts, even if you don't play with it much

CA:
-Metal body :D
-Higher stock velocity :)
-More metal parts overall :P

-Heard they aren't as reliable
-Not TM ;)

I've had a crapload of AEG's before, and they were all Tokyo Marui. I've got alot of experience with my friends TM MP5A5, and I love how it is so portable, but I really want something with a metal body, preferably without dishing out an extra $200 for one on top of the original price on the gun itself. I just got a metal body for my M16A4, and wow, it really does make it feel like I can use it as intended, instead of babying it!

What experiences do any of you dudes have with the Classic Army MP5's? I hear about different versions, like "3.5ver" or some crap, but I dunno much about them. If it ends up real bad, I'll go with the standard: Tokyo Marui.

Anyway, I found this site to have far more mature people than ASR, so I thought I might have a chance with some serious, honest-to-God responses here, as opposed to hearing kids ask me if I'm trying to look like Delta or SEALs or Elian Gonzales or something. ;)

Thanks guys.

[tenda]

sorry ...i only use tokyo marui upgraded...!!!!!!! :P

[sniper07]

, but I really want something with a metal body,


Do you noticed the ICS/AE MP5s. The actual version is very good

[noFlooder]

Classic Army

I own one of the latest series and got no problems with it. Gotta love this metal-body ....

In some days i'm gonna change a part inside, let's see how difficult it'll be :D

[bishop1]

I had a CA MP5SD with full stock. I loved how it felt, a good almost heavy weight, very sturdy, you didnt have to worry about it hitting a tree and breaking apart. But in the 2 months i had it, i never used it in a game, and only shot it around the house, but I had to have it repaired twice, once for gears, and i dont remember what the other was, so while it was pretty cool, id definatly get a TM over anything, no matter what gun, TMs are always more reliable.

[gaboki]

personally i'd go with the CA a newer version though ;O

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Go buy a TM then buy an aftermarket metal body for it. You joined airsoft and everyone knows its not cheap, so either buy a metal body for your TM gun or buy a CA gun and replace almost everything inside.

[TacoDelRio]

Haha that sounds bad, BastardChild!

Yeah maybe I'll stick with the TM. Crap.

My friend bought an ICS MP5 RIS, and that thing just sucked so bad. Nearly everything fell off it right when we got it to his house. He hadn't played but for about 10 minutes and it broke. The new ones are probably better, but eh, maybe I'll stick to TM.

Thanks for the input, guys.

Beer not brew!

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Well I'm being straight forward with you dude :P

My ak47s is 4 years old, and seen numerous skirmishes with various owners (bone stock of course). Now shes getting a 100 series stock kit and is getting some love n tlc, shes my baby.

I also own a Tm Mp5a4 with a CA aftermarket reciever/cocking tube, very solid.

P.s. your Elian Gonzales ? ;)

[TacoDelRio]

That I am.

Elian Gonzales in referance to how the guys who grabbed that little bitch and took him away were armed with MP5's, but if I'm wrong, I don't care. I think they were. (Gotta be careful, cause if I'm wrong, I'll get assaulted by Chairborne Commandos!)

I scrapped the entire idea of the MP5. I've got somethign in that realm of usefullness with a CAR15 (XM177).

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

my buddy bought a m733 and my friend owns a m933 (m16 body with m4 flat top reciever?)

There pretty tiny n cool,definately good cqb guns
:P

[TacoDelRio]

Yeah, CAR15's with short barrels are neato. Mine has the 11.5 inch barrel with 5 inch flash suppressor or whatever it is, and it's ALL PLASTIC BABY! Creakin' around! I strap it to the side of my rucksack so I may use it in CQB.

[ZeroPositive]

I like TM guns as they are super reliable and being an airsofter I am out for praticality and TMs quality has never failed me :D

Go for TM and a lighter gun is easier to use.

[Xanthais]

sorry ...i only use tokyo marui upgraded...!!!!!!! :P

+1

[rzuk]

how many times we will repeating this? :cantbeli:

i 'll say last time
i saw in my life only 4 AEG's seriously failures
3 of them were TM (one ICS)

is this prove anything?? NOTHING is this prove that TM is a piece of crap?? NO!!
that is prove there is no rule!
if u have bad luck your AEG will broke anyway ;)
and if you have luck and you'll take care of your AEG it should work for ages

BTW so many CA Aegs in my team and no single problem with it

[TacoDelRio]

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[rzuk]

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Huh?

ok it is so hard to uderstand? my english is tragic i know that , but i make myself clear i thing :|

all this stories about not relaible CA's are just a myths
i supose to thing the same about TM's (becouse of my experience) but i know TM make great replicas

[Sepper]

I've been into airsoft for about the past 5 or so years now and doing my own internal work I have learned a lot about the whole experience.

The things I tell people about the difference Pro/Con of both CA v TM are based on hardline experience.

TOKYO MARUI:
PRO:
- Superb quality internals out of the box, TM makes some of the best parts on the market, Period.
- Almost 20 years of testing in the market. These guys know what they're doing!
- More variety in weapon makes; pretty indisputable...
- RELIABLE and easy to disassemble/ assemble mechboxes and bodies.

CON:
- Plastic Bodies
- MP5 Series (Trust me...)
- Stock velocity only 280ish


CLASSIC ARMY:
PRO:
- All metal body
- Higher velocity from box

CON:
- Cheap Metal Body... Made of cheaper metals than Systema/ Hurricane/ G&P bodies
- Poor quality internal parts (springs suck compared to aftermarket ones)
- Less time on market (I'm sure they'll get better as time goes by)

ICS/AE: I have dealt with few of these and so cannot give an informed opinion.

I guess in the end, Airsoft is truely a gamble. I've seen gears break on brand new TMs and I've seen CAs work perfectly, and vice-versa. It depends on how hard you are on them and how much you want to spend on them. I personally will go with Tokyo Marui almost every time, but that's because I know I can trust them. Others will take time for me to trust.

[Damian]

ICS M4A1's are better than Marui and CA ones especially the RIS model.

[rzuk]

ok great :|
maybe some reasons?? (serious reasons please)