Why do citizens need automatic assault rifels?

[SeanAshi]

PLANO, Texas --
Three heavily armed men remain at large after shooting at four police cruisers and carjacking four vehicles following a bank robbery in Richardson Thursday morning, police said.

The incident began at about 10:15 a.m. when the men robbed the American First National Bank located next to the Richardson police headquarters in the 400 block of N. Greenville in Richardson, Sgt. Keith Cannon said.
The men, believed to be Hispanic, were armed with automatic weapons and one person at the bank suffered minor injuries, Cannon said.

The men sped off in a Honda and then carjacked a red Chevrolet Suburban before crashing it and stealing a white pickup truck.
Plano police were helping Richardson officers pursue the men when witnesses said shots were fired just before a multivehicle accident involving the pickup truck and a green four-door sedan at Jupiter Road at Plano Parkway in Plano, NBC 5 reported.
A Plano officer was injured by flying glass when the back window of his unmarked cruiser was shot out, NBC 5 reported. He is expected to be OK.
The men then reportedly attempted to steal a car with a woman an child inside, but fled on foot instead and then carjacked a gold 1989 Mazda 626, which was found hours later in a residential neighborhood in the 300 block of Valentine in Wylie.
Police say they believe the men are now in the fourth vehicle they have carjacked, a beige 1994 Honda Accord with Texas license plates P76-NZG.

[bloddyaxe]

No the question should be like: "Why do citizens need Hondas, red Chevrolet Suburbans and Mazdas?"

I mean they could be using Zhigulis and Volgas!

[EffJi]

Were the guns purchased legaly? No? Well, what a surprise!

So you mean that criminals get guns anyway, no matter how tough the gun laws are?

[Initiative]

Because America is one of the few countries in the world with true freedom. That freedom came from civilians who owned assault rifles and stood up for what was right. Owning assault rifles today is first and foremost a tribute to America's true freedom. They also protect the lives and the freedom of Americans. (This should be in the political section.)

[American Patriot]

Because they are cool.

[Trident-za]

It's quite obvious really - citizens need automatic weapons so they can protect themselves from other citizens with automatic weapons.

Weird... I'm a big believer in the right to have a weapon, but I don't think I'd appreciate my government saying "yeah, OK... there is no reason you can't own an AK-47 or an M-16". We have a big enough problem with firearms as it is in South Africa. Yes, I know that outlawing automatic weapons does not mean the criminals won't use them.... but still, the thought of a few million people who are marginally more intelligent than a potplant running around, legally, with these things scares me.... maybe in the more "developed" countries you can get away with it. In South Africa, it would be a nightmare!

[Initiative]

Because they are cool.
That too. As everyone knows, the coolness factor presides over all other reason.

[Howie Kaluha]

I give assault rifles a giant hug woot

[Trident-za]

Personally, the fact that people think they are "cool" is the biggest reason to ban them! The last thing I need is to bump into some moron with too much testosterone, not enough functioning braincells, an assault rifle and a weird idea of the "coolness" factor thereof. But, as I said earlier... maybe it's different in a developed country.

I challenge American Patriot to choose his next vacation venue as an African country where everyone has the right to carry an AK-47 or an RPG-7.... spend a month there, and then tell me how "cool" it was?

[Haiw]

Because America is one of the few countries in the world with true freedom. That freedom came from civilians who owned assault rifles and stood up for what was right.
They had assault rifles during the war of independance or the civil war? Whoa... I never knew!

we need automatic assualt rifles for personal protection from terminators

[Saint]

Because America is one of the few countries in the world with true freedom. That freedom came from civilians who owned assault rifles and stood up for what was right. Owning assault rifles today is first and foremost a tribute to America's true freedom. They also protect the lives and the freedom of Americans. (This should be in the political section.)

Wow! Cool.....the colonist had assault rifles! Sweet! Thats why they beat the British!

hahaha..you sound like George Bush with all the freedom talk in your post...."The Insurgents are evil, because they hate freedom...."
People who don't want assault rifles in the streets of the USA are freedom haters...bwahaha...

[Initiative]

Because America is one of the few countries in the world with true freedom. That freedom came from civilians who owned assault rifles and stood up for what was right.
They had assault rifles during the war of independance or the civil war? Whoa... I never knew!

What would then have been considered assault rifles. The most capable small arms of that time.

[mocking_loudly_died]

"guns, guns, guns" - Robocop.

[FallenAngel]

automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since 1934 (exception being a class III liscense, which is not cheap nor easy to get). ;)

[American Patriot]

they have been regulated since 1934, not banned.

[memphiz]

Because of them damn squrrels

[Flagg]

we need automatic assualt rifles for personal protection from terminators

As well as aliens, the living dead(zombies), evil clowns, and most importantly, annoying mimes.

We need teflon coated bullets to defeat body armour too......cause when the clowns attack, they'll probably be wearing kevlar.

[scm77]

Where's Geezah? I thought he'd be on this by now.:lol:

[moughoun]

I alway's thought it was to hold back the Canandian's when they invade?

[mocking_loudly_died]

I heard hippies die when you shoot them with assualt rifles. Sweet.

[Abolith]

Personally, the fact that people think they are "cool" is the biggest reason to ban them! The last thing I need is to bump into some moron with too much testosterone, not enough functioning braincells, an assault rifle and a weird idea of the "coolness" factor thereof. But, as I said earlier... maybe it's different in a developed country.

I challenge American Patriot to choose his next vacation venue as an African country where everyone has the right to carry an AK-47 or an RPG-7.... spend a month there, and then tell me how "cool" it was?

Stop being an idiot. no one on the US is allowed to carry an AK-47, M16 or any other AUTOMATIC weapon. Nor are we allowed to carry arounf RPG's, Rockets or other anto-tank weapons.

Granted there are a very few people that can own Automatic weapons but they are few and far between, AND they have been backround checked to death so the chances of them going on a rampage is nil. The only others that have AUTOMATIC weapons are those that have obtained them illeagaly and likely wouldn't be able to get a freakin legal pistol if they wanted to.

[Nawlins]

Personally, the fact that people think they are "cool" is the biggest reason to ban them! The last thing I need is to bump into some moron with too much testosterone, not enough functioning braincells, an assault rifle and a weird idea of the "coolness" factor thereof. But, as I said earlier... maybe it's different in a developed country.

I challenge American Patriot to choose his next vacation venue as an African country where everyone has the right to carry an AK-47 or an RPG-7.... spend a month there, and then tell me how "cool" it was?

Stop being an idiot. no one on the US is allowed to carry an AK-47, M16 or any other AUTOMATIC weapon. Nor are we allowed to carry arounf RPG's, Rockets or other anto-tank weapons.

Granted there are a very few people that can own Automatic weapons but they are few and far between, AND they have been backround checked to death so the chances of them going on a rampage is nil. The only others that have AUTOMATIC weapons are those that have obtained them illeagaly and likely wouldn't be able to get a freakin legal pistol if they wanted to.

Thanks, I was gonna say the same thing. Big difference between so-called "assault weapons" and automatic weapons, kids.

[Elmo]

Why do citizens need automatic weapons?

This is trivial, really. Because they have small johnsons.

[FallenAngel]

I alway's thought it was to hold back the Canandian's when they invade?

Slight correction: They're for pushing back the Canadians when we invade. p-)

[FallenAngel]

I heard hippies die when you shoot them with assualt rifles. Sweet.

Oh yeah? Prove it p-)

[mocking_loudly_died]

I heard hippies die when you shoot them with assualt rifles. Sweet.

Oh yeah? Prove it p-)

Just give me an AK and a bell tower.

[soma]

But **** who needs full auto to defend themselves or their family? Yeah it's fun for shooting but that's it.

[Abolith]

Please read my above post.

[Saint]

Operation Canadian Freedom

*in my best Bush accent"

"Canadians don't love freedom...they are freedom haters.....the people of Canada are oppressed because they have never had freedom..."

[moughoun]

I heard hippies die when you shoot them with assualt rifles. Sweet.

Oh yeah? Prove it p-)

Just give me an AK and a bell tower.
..go to your happy place, mocking........fluffy bunny's........cloud's....happy happy children........no need for the bad voices to tell you what to do...

[SeanAshi]

I heard hippies die when you shoot them with assualt rifles. Sweet.Water will work on hippies.

[Flagg]

Personally, the fact that people think they are "cool" is the biggest reason to ban them! The last thing I need is to bump into some moron with too much testosterone, not enough functioning braincells, an assault rifle and a weird idea of the "coolness" factor thereof. But, as I said earlier... maybe it's different in a developed country.

I challenge American Patriot to choose his next vacation venue as an African country where everyone has the right to carry an AK-47 or an RPG-7.... spend a month there, and then tell me how "cool" it was?

Stop being an idiot. no one on the US is allowed to carry an AK-47, M16 or any other AUTOMATIC weapon. Nor are we allowed to carry arounf RPG's, Rockets or other anto-tank weapons.

Granted there are a very few people that can own Automatic weapons but they are few and far between, AND they have been backround checked to death so the chances of them going on a rampage is nil. The only others that have AUTOMATIC weapons are those that have obtained them illeagaly and likely wouldn't be able to get a freakin legal pistol if they wanted to.

Thanks, I was gonna say the same thing. Big difference between so-called "assault weapons" and automatic weapons, kids.

First off......I don't thnk name calling is necessary(yet ;) )

Trident's sharing his SA perspective and opinion...he can't be faulted for that.

As far as the difference between a semi-automatic assault rifle and a full-automatic assault rifle is F**KALL in my opinion.

I've had the opportunity to use both extensively and I honestly believe that the difference in carnage able to be produced by two identical assault rifles(one semi, one full auto) is practically nil.

In fact one could effectively argue a semi-automatic assault rifle, particularly in the hands of a poorly-trained/inexperienced F**KWIT on a rampage could result in even more casualties than a fully-automatic equivalent.

Just my .02c

[mocking_loudly_died]

Personally, the fact that people think they are "cool" is the biggest reason to ban them! The last thing I need is to bump into some moron with too much testosterone, not enough functioning braincells, an assault rifle and a weird idea of the "coolness" factor thereof. But, as I said earlier... maybe it's different in a developed country.

I challenge American Patriot to choose his next vacation venue as an African country where everyone has the right to carry an AK-47 or an RPG-7.... spend a month there, and then tell me how "cool" it was?

Stop being an idiot. no one on the US is allowed to carry an AK-47, M16 or any other AUTOMATIC weapon. Nor are we allowed to carry arounf RPG's, Rockets or other anto-tank weapons.

Granted there are a very few people that can own Automatic weapons but they are few and far between, AND they have been backround checked to death so the chances of them going on a rampage is nil. The only others that have AUTOMATIC weapons are those that have obtained them illeagaly and likely wouldn't be able to get a freakin legal pistol if they wanted to.

Thanks, I was gonna say the same thing. Big difference between so-called "assault weapons" and automatic weapons, kids.

First off......I don't thnk name calling is necessary(yet ;) )

Trident's sharing his SA perspective and opinion...he can't be faulted for that.

As far as the difference between a semi-automatic assault rifle and a full-automatic assault rifle is F**KALL in my opinion.

I've had the opportunity to use both extensively and I honestly believe that the difference in carnage able to be produced by two identical assault rifles(one semi, one full auto) is practically nil.

In fact one could effectively argue a semi-automatic assault rifle, particularly in the hands of a poorly-trained/inexperienced F**KWIT on a rampage could result in even more casualties than a fully-automatic equivalent.

Just my .02c

It's just yanks mate, they play ****e sports and shoot guns.

(waits for incoming salvos) - mmmm time for noodles.

[Redux]

fail-safe system. if one guy goes crazy with a 12-gauge, the guy next door can take them down, and vice versa.

[gaz]

In the UK, New Zealand and Australia we can do infinitely more damage with a witty one liner than Americans can do with an AR-15 and a 30 round clip.

[Abolith]

Personally, the fact that people think they are "cool" is the biggest reason to ban them! The last thing I need is to bump into some moron with too much testosterone, not enough functioning braincells, an assault rifle and a weird idea of the "coolness" factor thereof. But, as I said earlier... maybe it's different in a developed country.

I challenge American Patriot to choose his next vacation venue as an African country where everyone has the right to carry an AK-47 or an RPG-7.... spend a month there, and then tell me how "cool" it was?

Stop being an idiot. no one on the US is allowed to carry an AK-47, M16 or any other AUTOMATIC weapon. Nor are we allowed to carry arounf RPG's, Rockets or other anto-tank weapons.

Granted there are a very few people that can own Automatic weapons but they are few and far between, AND they have been backround checked to death so the chances of them going on a rampage is nil. The only others that have AUTOMATIC weapons are those that have obtained them illeagaly and likely wouldn't be able to get a freakin legal pistol if they wanted to.

Thanks, I was gonna say the same thing. Big difference between so-called "assault weapons" and automatic weapons, kids.

First off......I don't thnk name calling is necessary(yet ;) )

Trident's sharing his SA perspective and opinion...he can't be faulted for that.

As far as the difference between a semi-automatic assault rifle and a full-automatic assault rifle is F**KALL in my opinion.

I've had the opportunity to use both extensively and I honestly believe that the difference in carnage able to be produced by two identical assault rifles(one semi, one full auto) is practically nil.

In fact one could effectively argue a semi-automatic assault rifle, particularly in the hands of a poorly-trained/inexperienced F**KWIT on a rampage could result in even more casualties than a fully-automatic equivalent.

Just my .02c

ok I give you that (about not calling names yet).......I got a bit over heated thats all....

[mr.x]

Wow, that is not far from where my wife works.
I just asked her about it and she hadn't heard anything about it.
I din't until now but I haven't been in front of the telly pr listened to radio at today.

As said before, if these were truly select fire weapons they were most likely illegally obtained or converted.

SeanAshi, whereabouts in Dallas are you?
I'm East Dallas by Whiterock Lake.

[mr.x]

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[Brozozo]

No civilian needs auto weapons for ANY reason, but it sure is nice as hell to be able to have have one!

[kutter]

Without automatic weapons the king of England could just walk in here and start shoving you around. Do you want that? Huh? Do you?
http://www.juris.uqam.ca/images/simpson.jpg

[vryhpyammoadded]

Were they really automatic weapons or semi-auto? Most reporters are clueless to this distinction either because of desire for melodrama, propaganda or simple plain ignorance.
Second, if the weapons were automatic, were they legally owned by the criminals?

[Timanator]

Gun control = No Crime?


So your telling me England and Australia now has no bank roberies because they banned private owner ship of guns?

[Ze]

In the UK, New Zealand and Australia we can do infinitely more damage with a witty one liner than Americans can do with an AR-15 and a 30 round clip.

n we can use bricks. the amount of armed bank robberies here in oz aint that high. i remember 1 from the start of this year.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Gun control = No Crime?


So your telling me England and Australia now has no bank roberies because they banned private owner ship of guns?

We rob banks with Crocs, we are hardcore - pussies need guns.

[Royal]

Gun control = No Crime?


So your telling me England and Australia now has no bank roberies because they banned private owner ship of guns?

England (and Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland) (when will you f**king Yanks get it into your heads that it's the United Kingdom) has not banned private ownership of guns. Shot guns and hunting rifles are fairly easy to get a licence for.

It is even possible to get a licence for a CCW or even a belt fed GMPG - but you need to pass the checks and have a valid reason. That's the difference.

[jprichard]

Texas, close to the unguarded Mexican border. Wonder where those guns came from? Hmm?

[ShotOver]

Gun control = No Crime?


So your telling me England and Australia now has no bank roberies because they banned private owner ship of guns?

England (and Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland) (when will you f**king Yanks get it into your heads that it's the United Kingdom) has not banned private ownership of guns. Shot guns and hunting rifles are fairly easy to get a licence for.

It is even possible to get a licence for a CCW or even a belt fed GMPG - but you need to pass the checks and have a valid reason. That's the difference.

Could you enlighten me what a reason for owning a Jimpy would be?
:lol:

[Kekkonen]

Because America is one of the few countries in the world with true freedom.
And only a few doesn´t have a Patriot act.

[Sir Zach of R.]

Gun control = No Crime?


So your telling me England and Australia now has no bank roberies because they banned private owner ship of guns?

England (and Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland) (when will you f**king Yanks get it into your heads that it's the United Kingdom) has not banned private ownership of guns. Shot guns and hunting rifles are fairly easy to get a licence for.

It is even possible to get a licence for a CCW or even a belt fed GMPG - but you need to pass the checks and have a valid reason. That's the difference.

Could you enlighten me what a reason for owning a Jimpy would be?
:lol:

Well duh. If the UN ever comes for my guns I would need guns to defend my guns. And in turn I would need a gun to defend the guns I'm defending with. It's called a sidearm. p-)

[Jack Mehoff]

http://www.a-human-right.com/RKBA/ccw/family-values.jpg

[Royal]

Gun control = No Crime?


So your telling me England and Australia now has no bank roberies because they banned private owner ship of guns?

England (and Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland) (when will you f**king Yanks get it into your heads that it's the United Kingdom) has not banned private ownership of guns. Shot guns and hunting rifles are fairly easy to get a licence for.

It is even possible to get a licence for a CCW or even a belt fed GMPG - but you need to pass the checks and have a valid reason. That's the difference.

Could you enlighten me what a reason for owning a Jimpy would be?
:lol:

Old mate of mine has a company that provides firearms for film and TV - some are blank firing only. Some are live. He's got more kit than your average infantry Bn - all on a civvy section 5 licence...

[Caraway]

In Finland it's impossible to get a weapon on the basis of self-defence. However if you wan't a gun you just have to have shooting as a hobby...and you have to prove it to the Police. You can get .22 calibre pistol relatively easy but if you wan't to get a 9 mm or so you have to have very good basis for that.... When it comes to hunting you only need a hunting lisence to get a weapon... Also if you have a criminal record of violent crimes you'll not get a licence for a weapon.

Why would a finn need a semi-automatic assault rifle? For practicing shooting skills in the army reserve. That pretty much goes for any weapons in here...

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Personally I think all guns in private ownership should be only of the single shot bolt action type.

[perdurabo]

Personally I think all guns in private ownership should be only of the single shot bolt action type.
same goes to 9mm pistols .38 rewolvers 12gauge shotguns -guns that are mainly used for selfdefence??
key thing is how much bullets it can shoot with one trigger pull more than one (two barreled shootguns have separate triggers....) it should be restricted to small group (security guards in some situations, shootingrange owners etc....)

[bloddyaxe]

I also think the government must regulate how many and how POWERFUL cars people can own.. So they should ban Porche 911 and such too powerful cars. Actually they should force you to buy only Toyota Yaris, unless you are really fat, then you can buy a Volvo.

Then they should prevent people from owning big kitchen knifes and binoculars.

[hank]

Need? What is this need crap. Who the hell needs a Ferrari and I don't see anyobyd telling Italians they can't have one. Same goes for Porsches.

Its called the second amendment. It does not say right to bear the arms you need. It is the right to bear arms. If someone chooses to exercise it legally then why the hell does anyone else care?

Also, do you think that we will know ahead of time if we need an assault rifle? I mean, will the invaders or the rights takers call and say "We're coming, so get your assault rifles". No, that is why 2A is written the way it is. The founding fathers wrote it the way they did on purpose. They wanted the people, like us, to have what we need to lead another insurrection if it became necessary.

Justice Frankfurter once wrote that crime and criminals that outwit the system are the product of the freedom we cherish. Can't have one without the other. Same applies here. If we can't have guns because Seanashi says we don't need them, then what's next? Who needs a .22? Really need it? I mean the last time I looked very few Americans needed to hunt to eat, so let's get rid of them all. Good idea.

As someone else pointed out, these guns were undoubtedly acquired illegally.

Read the second amendment - maybe even the whole constitution.

hank

[A Soldier]

B/c they are fun

[hank]

I also think the government must regulate how many and how POWERFUL cars people can own.. So they should ban Porche 911 and such too powerful cars. Actually they should force you to buy only Toyota Yaris, unless you are really fat, then you can buy a Volvo.

Then they should prevent people from owning big kitchen knifes and binoculars.

Thank God you are in Iceland. I don't want teh damned government regulating any more than it already does. Talk like this is why we have a multi trillion dollar deficit. Too much government regulation is bad, not good.

hank

[California Joe]

Damn, Zach never told us that he and his Mom posed for pics. ;)

Oh sure hank, waltz on in here and start quoting the constitution and ****.

Royal, tell us more about this "Magic Kingdom" you speak of.....

[HooyahCQB]

Jack Mehoff rofl

[Mark Sman]

As someone already pointed out, the most important reason is anti-zombie defense.

I've seen 28 Days Later and Dawn Of The Dead. When the zombies come crawling out of the sewers, I'll be ready yessir.

Painted blue, wearing threat level3, and firing in all directions to protect my mountainous horde of Little Debbie snack cakes.

I've already popped off a few rounds just to establish my ZOC. I think they've put up flashing blue lights to mark the edge of my domain.

[Royal]

Royal, tell us more about this "Magic Kingdom" you speak of.....

Didn't say it was easy to get a section 5 licence or a CCW, just possible ;)

Personally I've never had a problem getting all the firearms I need. The Queen even gives me new ones sometimes :D

[basket of soft kittens]

rofl rofl rofl rofl at jack...lesbians in the nra are funny