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walford
11-05-2004, 01:06 PM
Many of us here are studying Int'l Politics in one way or another. What we are being taught in class -- and seeing in our media -- about your country is likely distorted if it is discussed at all.

Surely I'm not the only one who would like to have a native's perspective of your country's socio-politico-economic situation.

If you have the time, it would be appreciated if you could explain one or more of the following:

What misconceptions do you think outsiders have about your country?

Who are the players?
What are the different parties and how do they compare?

What sort of future would you like for your country?
How would that compare to the likely future?

What are your country's strengths & weaknesses?

What are some chronic problems that outsiders simply don't appreciate?
What sort of relationship(s) does your country have with its neighbors? Any room for improvement in these relationships?

radon
11-05-2004, 02:24 PM
This is nothing objective but something from my opinion. I speak only my ideas. Yes I support KOKOOMUS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Finland


Finns enjoy individual and political freedoms, and suffrage is universal at 18. The country's population is ethnically homogeneous with no sizable immigrant population. Few tensions exist between the Finnish-speaking majority and the Swedish-speaking minority.

The majority of the immigrants are in the south.


There are two official languages in Finland: Finnish, spoken by 92% of the population, and Swedish, mother tongue for 5.5% of the population. Ethnic Finns and Finland Swedes are generally considered to comprise a common nation. The Finland-Swedes are concentrated in the coastal areas;


Very many Finland-Swedes speak Finnish as good Swedish except maybe in West Finland or Åland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5land
Finlandssvensk is slightly different than real Swedish. Often sound like spoken with Finnish accent. These tensions are small. Never in the world there is going to be a civil war because of this issue. These tensions have alot to do with mandatory swedish learning in schools. :P Finland-Swedes have been called getting an advantage getting into universities because their langauge. "Pappa betalar" , father pays refers also to this group. Maybe because of their more important position in the past.

I think a common misconception of Finland around the world is that Finland is a similiar nordic country like Sweden or Norway. Finnish language does not even belong to the indoeuropean group of languages. Finland being a part of Sweden has still had a influence on Finnish institutions and politics. Many politicians have looked for inspiration in Sweden for their politics. I think this is going be a thing of the past.

The relations to Sweden are good. There is nothing special about it. The Swedish people are called very often gay :D

The relations to Russia are good enough. More complicated than Swedish relations. It is no secret many people are somewhat anti-russian. Unofortunately many politicians still think like the cold war is going on. :bash: They do not want to irritate the people in the east. But Finland is absolutely not just some Russian pupper goverment. Never has. And I want it that to stay that way.

The important parties are . I agree this is my opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_Finland#Major_political_parties

Left Alliance are socialists and communists. More socialist than communist.
Green is a more complex party. Altough manned much by leftists this is not just a simple water melon , green outside red inside. They support limiting things to spare nature, also things that are very expensive . Greens are voted by hippies and women. Swedish People's Party is always in the goverment. This comes because they are ready to sell their souls only to keep the mandatory Swedish in schools.

Most people are not religious, christians but not really religious . Finland has still a semiuniofficial state church. Small parts of this can be seen. The Lutheran Church of Finland. Have heard some conservative people have said they are a speaking machine for socialdemocrats. That has a little truth in it . The church is not important. Finland is a secular country. This can be seen that a very small portion of Finnish tax money goes to the Church.

A coming problem is the lack of children. Demographics problem. I think famous overtaxation is to be blamed. Finland has also a overinflated public sector. Too many communes.

The unions are very important. There is a system where the employers and the unions get to together and decide of the loans and holidays for the coming years. There is discussion about this. It is said it makes the Finnish job marjet very unflexible. Because of very bad economic policies being part of Russia. Finland was still a very poor country even not so long ago. :( Like a third world country Finnish living standard and economy rose very quickly to the average Eu level. Despite similiar policies that many blame the stagnation of "the old Europe" . Finland gets good economic growth. This years real growth rate was bigger than of the Usa. I think this issue needs still reform to secure the growth.

Someone post now something from a different country. :)

von_Moo142
11-05-2004, 02:37 PM
I think this is a good idea, so I'll repost my earlier summary from another thread and add to it a little. This is pretty subjective however, as I'm a member of Blairs lot. I have included basic info for readers who aren't that familiar with British politics.

Our general elections should occur within a year or so.

We have Tony Blair, as the leader of New Labour. He didn't have a great election last time around, and the next one may be worse for him. He's serving his second term now. He led New Labour (the rebranded and highly altered Labour party) to victory over John Majors Conservative government in 1997; this was the fist time a Labour government had seen power since 1979, although the nature of the party had changed drastically from its eighties incarnation (left wing, socialist). Ironically, it was Margaret Thatcher who provided the gradual right shift in the UK which caused Labour to change into the more electable New Labour.

There has been much (idle) media speculation over a long standing rift between Blair and his Chancellor (the treasury guy) Gorden Brown. If Blair was forced to step down, which seems to have almost happened over Iraq, Brown would almost certainly take over.

Blair doesn't have the support of a number of Labour MP's, although they will almost certainly unite behind him for a re-election bid. Many Labour MPs are former socialists, and do not take kindly to much of the Blair governments policy. Iraq and Europe are the major problems for Blairs government.


The Conservative Party (the Tories) are fielding Micheal Howard as thier leader. He was a cabinet minister in the Major government. He is the latest in a long line of Conservative leaders since Blair was elected to power. IMO, the Tories have almost identical policy to Labour, apart from thier more Euro-sceptical attitude.

There are deep divisions within the ranks of the Tories, basically over how to modernise the party into one which will attract new voters. The bitter leadership battles have also left scars. Principally, IMO, they cannot seem to decide quite how euro-sceptical to be. They also suffer badly from opposition politics (some of you might call this flip-flopping), with their Iraq being a fine example of this: they first supported and then condemned the decision to go to war.

Howard doesn't seem to be the leader the Tories need to oust Blair, although he may stop the rot somewhat. However, they Tories will lose voters to the UK independance party (Naderesque in their power (not in policy though), and ultimately eurosceptic without resorting to the BNP). He, like Blair doesn't enjoy the support of all his party.


The Liberal Democrats are led by Charles Kennedy. These are the most left wing and socially libertairian of the three main parties by a long way. Kennedy is a pretty good leader for them IMO, and they saw massive gains from Labour in the last election. Kennedy is reported t have health (alcohol) problems, althoug I haven't seen any more eviedence of this in him than most other MP's.

I can't see Kennedys party getting into power unless Blair does something immensely stupid. They might become the opposition party if they are lucky and the Tories do badly. They have all the policies you wold expect from a socially libertairian and left/centre wing party.


We also have the Scottish National Party, who stand in Scotland and have quite a few seats. They gained a bunch of seats from Labour in the last election IIRC. The Welsh national party are not so successful. In Northern Ireland we have the mixture of Sinn Fein, the two Unionist parties and the SLDP. I know next to nothing about all of these, as you can tell.

The Greens and the BNP (neo-nazis who are trying to affect a make-over) have also gained a few more voters in local elections recently, although it's highly unlikely either will gain seats in the general elections.


Defense wise, Labour and the Conservatives would be much the same, and any percived difference is opposition politics in action, IMO. It is possible that the Tories might spend more on defence.


I would like to see a less right wing and more libertairian government. Since that isn't going to happen, I would like another four or five years of New Labour with Blair as PM. It would be nice to get a coherrent energy policy and a transport policy that works, but I won't hold my breath. I'm pro-Europe and pro-euro, nuff said as this has been done to death elsewhere.

I would also like to see more people asking their MPs for the things that they want, and less NIMBY BS and litigious crap. I won't hold my breath for those, either.

I will be voting for John Denham. He stood against the Iraq war and resigned from the cabinet over it, but did so rather well and without the masses of biased ****e we come to expect from those taking a public anti-war stance.

Haiw
11-05-2004, 03:21 PM
Instead of giving a full analysis I'm just gonna fast forward to the end and say our current government sucks dirty donkey ****.

Romulus
11-05-2004, 03:25 PM
Instead of giving a full analysis I'm just gonna fast forward to the end and say our current government sucks dirty donkey ****.


rofl rofl

cut
11-05-2004, 03:28 PM
Many of us here are studying Int'l Politics in one way or another. What we are being taught in class -- and seeing in our media -- about your country is likely distorted if it is discussed at all.

Surely I'm not the only one who would like to have a native's perspective of your country's socio-politico-economic situation.

If you have the time, it would be appreciated if you could explain one or more of the following:

What misconceptions do you think outsiders have about your country?

Who are the players?
What are the different parties and how do they compare?

What sort of future would you like for your country?
How would that compare to the likely future?

What are your country's strengths & weaknesses?

What are some chronic problems that outsiders simply don't appreciate?
What sort of relationship(s) does your country have with its neighbors? Any room for improvement in these relationships?


what countries do you know about?

walford
11-05-2004, 03:35 PM
what countries do you know about?What I know is from an American perspective. This isn't just for my benefit. What do you think others should know about your country that you think is not known well enough?

Phil642
11-05-2004, 03:36 PM
We have a real democracy (in Belgium) ... the politics are ok ... no corumption ;) ... 4 big parties ... more than 10 littles ... the country will maybe split ... we've the best beers and chocolates in the world ... we are Eurowussies ... everything is ok ... life is beautiful p-)

walford
11-05-2004, 03:40 PM
We have a real democracy (in Belgium) ... the politics are ok ... no corumption ... 4 big parties ... more than 10 littles ... the country will maybe split ... we've the best beers and chocolates in the world ... we are Eurowussies ... everything is ok ... life is beautiful
Do you think that there is any connection between the possible split in Belgium and the numerous political parties there? It is a parliamentary system, correct? And your legal system is based upon the Napoleonic Code [inquisitorial rather than adversarial courts]?

cut
11-05-2004, 04:10 PM
what countries do you know about?What I know is from an American perspective. This isn't just for my benefit. What do you think others should know about your country that you think is not known well enough?

The UK's quite well know in lots of places especially commonwealth countries and in europe.

cut
11-05-2004, 04:12 PM
We have a real democracy (in Belgium) ... the politics are ok ... no corumption ... 4 big parties ... more than 10 littles ... the country will maybe split ... we've the best beers and chocolates in the world ... we are Eurowussies ... everything is ok ... life is beautiful
Do you think that there is any connection between the possible split in Belgium and the numerous political parties there? It is a parliamentary system, correct? And your legal system is based upon the Napoleonic Code [inquisitorial rather than adversarial courts]?

asking people about stuff you just learnt is a bit unfair :D

walford
11-05-2004, 04:20 PM
asking people about stuff you just learnt is a bit unfair
Leave it to you to make an informational exchange thread into a non-informative argument.

cut
11-05-2004, 04:28 PM
asking people about stuff you just learnt is a bit unfair
Leave it to you to make an informational exchange thread into a non-informative argument.

Nah, I just think talking about legislature is a good way to kill a good thread. p-)

walford
11-05-2004, 04:54 PM
Nah, I just think talking about legislature is a good way to kill a good thread. p-)
Given your posts, you don't seem to think this is a good thread.

This is what I felt was most important:

Do you think that there is any connection between the possible split in Belgium and the numerous political parties there?
The multiplicity of parties that existed in the Weimar Republic is often cited as a major sign that the German people felt that they had no political organization that could represent them as a unified whole. This then made it possible for anyone with sufficient audacity and an electoral plurality [i.e. the largest minority percentage] to take power.

In other words, if a minority faction can rule and the electorate so balkanized, that is a very dangerous situation. This portends to have a profound effect upon Belgiums neighbors as well. I would like to know more about this -- with your kind permission.

Instead it is you who seem to be determined to kill this thread before those of us who may be interested get this important info. If you are really not interested in contributing anything of any consequence, then by all means, no one is forcing you to participate.

cut
11-05-2004, 05:50 PM
calm down!

I don't think the fact that there are more parties in states such as Belgium signifies a lack of unity. Belgium like other countries in Europe is made up of what could be described as different nationalities, in their case flemmish and french (walloon?), the proportional voting system allows them to be better represented. The coalition government at the momnet is made up of 5 parties. 2 liberal parties (1 flemish & 1 francophone), 2 social democratic parties (1 flemish & 1 francophone) and 1 flemmish progressive party. Differences between the coalition parties equate to inner-party squabbling in the Labour party in the UK or the Republicans in the US.

Big parties in the US or the UK disguise the fact that there are all sorts of different ideologies within them. Suggesting that one minority faction can rule the government is just as likely or unlikely as it happening in the UK or the US. And is no less undemocratic for us. I think that it may be more likely if the right wing seperatist parties such as Vlaams Blok got voted in, but in the end accountability will hold them in check. The recent moves towards federalisation also allows the government to function better and at the same time appease the seperatists.

walford
11-05-2004, 06:01 PM
I don't think the fact that there are more parties in states such as Belgium signifies a lack of unity.
I was responding to this comment by the Belgian:

4 big parties ... more than 10 littles ... the country will maybe split ...
I would very much like to know what he means by that. Sounds pretty damn ominous. Belgium is an important country.

BTW, I appreciate your post, it was informative. Parliamentary politics scare the sh*t outta me. The idea that an entire gov't can collapse at irregular intervals is difficult for many Americans to grasp.

If a crisis situation arises [when many Parliamentary gov'ts fall], you would think that the last thing you would want is an election campaign. [Although I guess it was a good thing for the UK when they had to sack Chamberlain in favor of Churchill rather than waiting for a regular election cycle.]

cut
11-05-2004, 06:17 PM
I don't think the fact that there are more parties in states such as Belgium signifies a lack of unity.
I was responding to this comment by the Belgian:

4 big parties ... more than 10 littles ... the country will maybe split ...
I would very much like to know what he means by that. Sounds pretty damn ominous. Belgium is an important country.

BTW, I appreciate your post, it was informative. Parliamentary politics scare the sh*t outta me. The idea that an entire gov't can collapse at irregular intervals is difficult for many Americans to grasp.

If a crisis situation arises [when many Parliamentary gov'ts fall], you would think that the last thing you would want is an election campaign. [Although I guess it was a good thing for the UK when they had to sack Chamberlain in favor of Churchill rather than waiting for a regular election cycle.]

I think what he means the country may split is because there have been difficulties recently. I know some flemmish belgans are in my french as a foreign language class, which made me realise how cut off the flemmish must be from the walloons. I don't think Belgium is likely to split, but to be honest last time I looked into it was about a year ago. If it does split that doesn't mean an Israel/Palestine situation, just look at the Czechoslovak split in january 93.

Could you link Phil642's post, so that I can read the context?

walford
11-05-2004, 06:21 PM
It's on the 1st page of this thread.

cut
11-05-2004, 06:23 PM
:cantbeli: I'm so dumb

I don't think his post was entirely factual, but there is a split between the two "nations", I sincerly doubt a split is at all likely, but I should really read up on it a bit more.

walford
11-05-2004, 06:27 PM
Good luck on finding the context in that post. Once you've seen it you'll know why I wanted him to elaborate. But I do appreciate his effort nonetheless...

moughoun
11-05-2004, 06:36 PM
just to add a point, that is the reason, Belgium is such a strong supporter of an intergrated EU, as a way of "diluting" the internal divison's into a larger federal like structure

walford
11-05-2004, 08:59 PM
asking people about stuff you just learnt is a bit unfair
I need to take a step backward on this comment. I did not 'just learn' about the subject in question. I did just take a class covering it, yes.

It's not always wise to be quick to jump.

I've been around awhile, studying things on my own and have thus learned a few things along the way -- and likely had a general knowledge on that subject and others long before many of you were an itch in your daddy's pants. When you get to be my age, you can talk like that. When you get really old, you can say any damn thing you like. Knowledge is cumulative.

The following song came out the month I was born:
http://www.sittingonthetopoftheworld.net/memphis-chuckberry.rm

So please don't make assumptions about what someone else knows. It doesn't hurt them so much as it hurts yourself. There is a difference between knowledge, intelligence and wisdom [which comes with time and effort]. Without the latter, the first two are worthless.

cut
11-05-2004, 09:23 PM
asking people about stuff you just learnt is a bit unfair
I need to take a step backward on this comment. I did not 'just learn' about the subject in question. I did just take a class covering it, yes.

It's not always wise to be quick to jump.

I've been around awhile, studying things on my own and have thus learned a few things along the way -- and likely had a general knowledge on that subject and others long before many of you were an itch in your daddy's pants. When you get to be my age, you can talk like that. When you get really old, you can say any damn thing you like. Knowledge is cumulative.

The following song came out the month I was born:
http://www.sittingonthetopoftheworld.net/memphis-chuckberry.rm

So please don't make assumptions about what someone else knows. It doesn't hurt them so much as it hurts yourself. There is a difference between knowledge, intelligence and wisdom. Without the latter, the first two are worthless.

I meant by "learn" as in just covered it. You lost me on the Napoleonic code question and I'm studying international law this year.

As for getting a bit hotheaded in replies, we all do it, except maybe Tane.

walford
11-06-2004, 06:07 AM
Maybe I should have made this thread simpler and just asked people what common misconceptions they think outsiders need to be disabused of about their country.

Dalleer
11-06-2004, 07:17 AM
There are two official languages in Finland: Finnish, spoken by 92% of the population, and Swedish, mother tongue for 5.5% of the population. Ethnic Finns and Finland Swedes are generally considered to comprise a common nation. The Finland-Swedes are concentrated in the coastal areas;

Heh , interesting term this "Finland-Swedes".

I'm just wondering , would the term "Finnish-Swedish" be slightly better ?

Niinkuin , tiedättekös , Suomenruotsalaiset = "Finnish-Swedish". Nyt tuo kuulostaisi siltä että "Suomi-Ruotsalaiset" ja se on jotenkin vähän kumma termi..

Mutta joo , "made me laugh".


have been called getting an advantage getting into universities because their langauge. "Pappa betalar" , father pays refers also to this group. Maybe because of their more important position in the past.

"Pappa betalar" = "Father pays/buys" meaning that the Finnish - Swedish minority is 'supposedly' so rich that they very seldom really "work for anything".

radon
11-06-2004, 07:22 AM
Yes that would be better. But I used the english word from the wikipedia site.

Kekkonen
11-06-2004, 07:58 AM
As for Sweden, well i can list some points which are "never ending debate issues" here,
and my opinions. Sweden has by the way a Social democratic government that uses the
former communist party (today "Vänstern" = Left) and the Greens to get a majority
for their decisions. I would hang myself before voting for those parties I can add.


Immigration policy: Our politicians wants labour immigration, of educated people,
mainly from eastern Europe. They however don´t want "social tourism", meaning poor
people from the same area which come here only to draw welfare. However it seems like
the main immigration waves comes just to do that. Today the immigration costs Sweden
something like $13 billion a year (for a country with only a 10 million population) and
we have got a lot of "multi-cultural" problems with mosques burned down by Swedes
thinking it has gone to far, immigrants that even doesn´t want to be Swedes and
despise everything in their new country etc. Today it´s no longer allowed to sing the
Swedish national anthem in Swedish schools since the immigrants could get offended.

Kekkonen says: Yes to refugees, no to social tourists. And those that are allowed to come
here must have demands on them to integrate and accept that they are in a new country,
with new customs and all that. The Danes have this policy now which ha gotten a large
amount of political correct criticism from Sweden to be "racist". IMO the Swedish politicians
can stuff that criticism up their asses and learn from the Danes. As for "labour immigration"
Sweden has a 20% unemployment rate, it´s just that the state puts a lot of those in
"projects" and thus hide them from the statistics, the unemployment among academics
is also high in Sweden, so what we need "labour immigration" for is beyond me. Among
the immigrants in Sweden today we have engineers that drives taxis, professors
baking pizzas, PhD´s cleaning school toilets. We need to use that resource better.


Taxes: Sweden has extremely high taxes, however this mainly affects rich
people that could see as much as 70% of their money go to taxes! Poor people will more
likely see about 35% of their pay dissapear in taxes. A average Swedish industrial worker
gets about $1500 a month in pay after taxes, the taxes has paid a lot already but in
later years everything has become more expensive in Sweden due to poor usage
of the taxpayers money, and by idiotic decisions to privatize major companies, which
has led to pretty high prices in for example electricity. The privatizations has led o a lot
of injustice that threatens the sense of having high taxes. For example rich people can
buy themselves a insurance that gets them before the que in hospitals, which today
can have bizarre waiting ques for surgical operations, up to 4-5 years.

Kekkonen says: High taxes are good, however the state should use the money more
effectively, for example Finland is a better example of how taxpayers money is used
than Sweden, Swedish politicians should learn from those.


Defence policy: In the late 1980´s Sweden had a territorial defense military,
which could mobilize about 750 000 soldiers + local troops, almost every Swedish man
did some time in the military and got basic training, mainly in the infantry. Today the
cold war is gone and the Swedish defence forces is switching to a "network based
defence", and has shrunk down to 100 000 soldiers of which the majority will be Homeguard
militia armed with G3´s. Further cutbacks is to be expected in the future untill we don´t
longer have a military. They cut the military by 50% every 4th year it seems.

Kekkonen says: There is a reason to why Bush thought that we don´t have an
Army these days. The Swedish conscription systems is unfair these days when so few is
selected, those selected should get a good pay and/or merits that can be used in university
studies afterwards for example. It´s very strange that for example Finland which has
only half the Swedish defence budget can have twice the amount of soldiers abroad
on international missions, train twice the amount of soldiers during basic training,
train further 30 000 on reservist exercises and have an army that is about 5 times
larger than the Swedish. Again, the Swedish politicians should learn from abroad how to

handle money.

I completely missed the questions, I think I answered some of them already above,
but anyway, here is the short version :)


What misconceptions do you think outsiders have about your country?
That we are a welfare paradise.

Who are the players?
What are the different parties and how do they compare?
Social democrats, in alliance with the communists and the greens.
The opposition bloc is a whining bunch that will never got to power
anyway so who they are is not interesting.

What sort of future would you like for your country?
How would that compare to the likely future?
I would like a little retro "Folkhemmet" (Peoples home, a campaign that was started
after the second world war and was a utopia of the perfect society, in the 1960´s Sweden
almost had it in some aspects, today it´s gone). It is not possible however, since
people of today don´t give a **** about each other, and are individualistic etc. This will
lead to us being flushed down the drain. Our society is falling to pieces (crime rate
increasing etc).

What are your country's strengths & weaknesses?
The strength is our high moralic values, of human life and what it is worth,
even if it is a "terrorist" or a wealthy American, we don´t which death upon
anyone. The only weakness we have is probably that we are a 10 million country,
but we have a lot of influence in many areas despite that while there are more
populated countries that have a lot less influence. Our politicians spend a lot of money
on trying to make Swedes "ITelligent", we have for example very cheap broadband
etc, I think this will help make Swedes comptetitive in the future high-tech market.

What are some chronic problems that outsiders simply don't appreciate?
I don´t understand the question so I have no idea.

What sort of relationship(s) does your country have with its neighbors?
Any room for improvement in these relationships?
Sweden licks everyones asses, both American and Arabic, thus we are loved by
everyone, we have a excellent relationship with Americans while Usama bin Laden
uses us as an example to why we are so good and deserve to be left alone. It is good as it is IMO.


Longest post ever, why did I even bother, nobody is going to read it anyway :cantbeli:

cut
11-06-2004, 08:25 AM
Longest post ever, why did I even bother, nobody is going to read it anyway :cantbeli:

I read it :D

von_Moo142
11-06-2004, 09:43 AM
I'm reading it. This type of thing is much better than the vapid ****e doled out by the usual suspects on this forum. So thanks :-)

walford
11-06-2004, 09:57 AM
I PM'd him my thanks as well. Really even one question is much appreciated. You don't need to trouble yourself with so much detail unless you feel that your country is that much misunderstood.

Phil642
11-06-2004, 10:47 AM
We have a real democracy (in Belgium) ... the politics are ok ... no corumption ... 4 big parties ... more than 10 littles ... the country will maybe split ... we've the best beers and chocolates in the world ... we are Eurowussies ... everything is ok ... life is beautiful
Do you think that there is any connection between the possible split in Belgium and the numerous political parties there? It is a parliamentary system, correct? And your legal system is based upon the Napoleonic Code [inquisitorial rather than adversarial courts]?

There is no connection between the numerous parties and the possible split ouf the country.

First a short resume of the history p-)

Before 500 BC Celtic tribes settle in the territory that is now Belgium.
Beginning in 57 BC, Julius Caesar extended the power of Rome into the region of Europe that is now Belgium. The people he encountered there were the Belgae, one of the various Celtic tribes of early Gaul, and the Romans dubbed their new province Gallia Belgica.the Gallo-Celtic tribes, fought with great valour against his forces in 58 B.C. , Julius (Caesar said at this occasion "from all the Gaelic peaople the Belgian are the bravest" (JC the conquest of Gaul)). Belgium's location in the very centre of Europe has given the country a very strategic importance with the result that it has been fought over for generations.
During the JC's invasion a lot of Belgian searched refuge in Albion (UK) and since than, UK became our natural protector.
From 375 The Franks migrate from the Lower Rhine area to today's Flanders region. For this reason the Romance influence remains stronger in Wallonia to this day.
From 890 Dissolution of the Carolingian Empire, division of the region into several counties, duchies, bishoprics and monastic estates; for a short time, Belgium is a part of Lorraine
12th to 14th century Economic and political prospering of the Flemish cities (cloth production)
14th to 15th century The fragmentation is stopped by the Dukes of Burgundy, who temporarily become independent intermediaries between France and Germany.
1477 As a result of the marriage of the Burgundian Crown Princess Maria and Emperor Maximilian I, the greater part of today’s Belgium comes into the possession of the Habsburgs.
1555 Legacy of Charles V divided and Belgium transferred to the Spanish crown
1714 After the Spanish War of Succession, the territory of today’s Belgium falls to Austria.
1795 Annexation by France
1815 Belgium is annexed to the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
1830 With the rise of Napoleon, French rule over Belgium became more constructive, including the revitalization of industry and (with the opening of the Scheldt) the partial recovery of Antwerp. With Napoleon's fall, the great Allied powers decreed that Belgium would become a part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, ruled by the pro-Dutch William of Orange.
The Belgians' patience had run out. Revolution erupted in Brussels and quickly spread across the country. William made a brief effort to regain control, but within a few months he withdrew. On 20 January, 1831, after centuries of external rule, Belgium was recognized as an independent nation. The Brits and Ge chose Leopold of Saxe-Coburg to be their first King, under a constitution that significantly limited the power of the monarchy, UK and Ge wanted a neutral country (no connection with France because of Napoleon and his numerous wars) p-)

1831 Leopold of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha is crowned King of Belgium on July 21st. He reigned until 1865.
1835 Opening of the first railway on the european mainland, between Mechelen and Brussels.
1865 Leopold II is crowned King of Belgium. During his reign Belgium becomes the fifth largest industrial state in Europe. He dies in 1909.
1878 For 30 years the Congo, now Zaire, is privately owned by King Leopold II.
1893 All adult males have to vote.
1908 The Congo becomes a Belgian colony.
1909 Albert I is crowned King of Belgium. He reigns until 1934.
1914 - 1918 German troups invade Belgium on August 3rd 1914 and occupy the whole country.
1930 Ghent University, founded in 1816, is made Flemish.
1932 - 1938 Language legislation : all central administrative offices will be bi-lingual. Brussels is officially bi-lingual.
1934 Leopold III is crowned King of Belgium.
1940 - 1944 German troups occupy Belgium in May 1940. The Cabinet escapes to England, but King Leopold III stays in Belgium and signs the Capitulation Document.
Belgium after 1945
1944 Founding of the Benelux Customs Union between Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxemburg.
1948 Franchise for women.
1949 Belgium joins the NATO.
1950 After fierce disputes Leopold III gives up the throne.
1951 Baudouin, son of Leopold III, becomes King.
1957 Belgium is a founder-member of the EEC, and Brussels becoms the headquarters of the EEC bodies.
1960 Congo becomes independent.
1963 The Flemish-Walloon language border is laid down.
1967 The NATO moves its headquarters from Paris to Brussels.
1980 Parliament gives the green light to regionalistion. Flanders and Wallonia are reformed with extensive degrees of autonomy. Brussels receives special status.
1984 The German-speaking minority in eastern Belgium is given its own parliament and local government, making it equal in status to Walloons and Flemings.
1988 On July 31st the parliament passes a bill making Belgium a Federal State, with Flanders and Wallonia as autonomous regions and Brussels as a region with a special status.
1993 On July 31st King Baudouin I dies unexpectedly. He is succeeded by his brother Albert as Albert II.

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Belgium: society, character and culture
An essay on the Belgian identity
Situation of the country
The "peaceful anarchism" of Brussels architecture may well be the feature that best characterizes Belgium as a whole. During its history of over 2000 years, the region has almost continuously been occupied by foreign powers: from the Romans to the Spanish, the Austrians, the French, the Dutch and the Germans. This has made the Belgians critical of any form of authority, and laws, rules and regulations are not taken very seriously (tax evasion is one of the national sports). This individualistic, anti-authoritarian attitude is perhaps best exemplified by the famous literary figure of Thyl Uilenspiegel, who mocked the Spanish authorities during the 16th century occupation.
The governing of the country is very much complicated by the particular structure with three language communities (Flanders in the North, Wallonia in the South, and a tiny German speaking region in the East), and the multilingual, multicultural and multinational status of Brussels. The language in Wallonia is French (although there still exists a not officially recognized "Walloon language"). The language in Flanders is Flemish, which is officially the same language as the Dutch which is spoken in Holland. In practice, the differences between Flemish and Dutch (mostly ****unciation, also vocabulary and expressions) are comparable to the differences between British and American English, and are just big enough so that Dutch TV sometimes add subtitles to Flemish spoken movies. Although Brussels is surrounded by Flemish territory, the majority there speaks French. Flanders comprises about 55% of the 10 million of Belgian inhabitants, Brussels 10 % and Wallonia the remaining 35%.

There have been a lot of political conflicts between the two main linguistic communities, but the language problem, which is the issue that has received most publicity outside Belgium, is (at least in my view) much less important than it seems. Since the federalization of the state the linguistic conflicts seem to have very much diminished, now that politicians are no longer capable to blame difficulties on the "other side". There have never been any real conflicts between Belgian (Walloon and Flemish) people, as opposed to conflicts between Belgian politicians. The best illustration of that is that even during the most heated episodes, no one has ever been killed or seriously injured in clashes connected with the linguistic conflict. It suffices to consider similar situations in other countries where conflicts exist between cultural or linguistic communities (e.g. Yugoslavia, Canada, Northern Ireland) to conclude that such peacefulness is not the common rule.

Belgium has, since the Middle Ages, always been one of the richest and most developed regions in the world. Just look at the historic churches, town halls, and pieces of art, in cities such as Brussels, Ghent, Bruges, and Antwerp to get an idea of the wealth during the mediaeval and Renaissance periods, when only the North of Italy could rival its splendour and artistic development. During its second golden age, the half century before World War I, Belgium was in absolute terms the fourth economic power in the world. If you take into account that the other industrial powers had a 5 to 10 times larger population, the achievement is impressive. This wealth was not due to natural resources, which are practically absent, but to industrial production and trade, which is facilitated by Belgium's central position in Western Europe, and the presence of many land and waterways.

Although it is fashionable in some quarters to view Belgium as an "artificial state", put together by the European powers after Napoleon's defeat, history shows that the region which is now called Belgium has been almost continuously under a single rule since at least the 16th century, when it got separated from Holland during the reformation. Before that period (and for a few years after the defeat of Napoleon), Belgium and the Netherlands were united, forming the "Low Countries", a remainder of the third, central part of the Frankish empire, Lotharingia, that formed a corridor between France and Germany. There has historically never been a clear split between the Walloon and Flemish provinces. Insofar that there was a division in counties and duchies (Flanders, Brabant, Liège/Limburg, ...), the divide was East-West rather than North-South as it is now. (this is clearly seen on a set of historical maps of the wider German region). The "Flemish" painters and polyphonists who were famous throughout Europe in the Middle Ages and Renaissance often were of Walloon origin (for example the painter Rogier Van der Weyden/Rogier de la Pasture and the composer Josquin des Prés).

The Belgian identity
The many contacts with various cultures made Belgians tolerant and flexible. On the other hand, the many foreign rules, the skepticism towards government and authority, the internal linguistic split, and the fact that the country was too small to engage in internationally ambitious enterprises (Belgium's only colony, the present Congo, was in fact donated by its king Leopold II, who had privately colonized it), have led to a relative lack of national pride and self-confidence. Belgium may well be one of the least nationalistic countries in the world. On the positive side this leads to modesty, to openness to external influences and to unwillingness to engage in offensive actions, or even to engage in war at all unless it is purely defensive. On the negative side, it means that opportunities are missed because one does not dare to take an initiative, on the assumption that the country is not big or powerful enough to start an ambitious project, or to do something better than the others. Belgians may be one of the few nationals who will criticize their country, rather than make publicity for it, among people from other countries.
This self-criticism leads often to distorted pictures of the country abroad. Since Belgium is not sufficiently important for most foreign media to send journalists there on a long term basis, and since the Belgian reality is anyway very complex and counter-intuitive for people living in different types of culture, the media tend to rely on reports by Belgians for their news about the country. Since these "self-reports" tend to focus on everything that goes wrong, from which the media, as they always do, select the most spectacular aspects, the image you get of Belgium in foreign newspapers is often one of a country on the brink of social and economic collapse. This image is held up in particular by those who dislike the process of European integration, and who see Belgium, home of the European "government" (the Commission), as an exemplar of everything that is wrong with the European Union.

This image is completely off the mark, though. Belgium is not only one of the richest countries in the world, but as shown by statistics from the World Bank, averaged over a 10 year period (1985-95) its economy has been growing faster than any of the other rich countries, with the exception of those in East Asia. While the Asian economies have collapsed in the meantime, the Belgian economy continues to grow at a healthy rate. Also the different political and social problems are easily put into perspective: whatever the disagreements on the political level, there has not been any violence in the streets. No one has died because of political conflicts. Even the few large protest demonstrations that Belgium has known (e.g. against nuclear missiles, or for reform of the justice system) were remarkably dignified and peaceful. There have been no large, national strikes for the past 20 years or so, and the Belgian political system is quite stable, with only small changes now and then in the ruling coalition.

The only "danger" for the foreseeable future is that the two language communities would grow further apart, becoming largely autonomous, so that the Belgian state would only remain as a minor administrative level between the regional level and the European Union level. The probability that Flanders and Wallonia would separate completely (like in the "velvet divorce" between Czechia and Slovakia), making Belgium disappear, is quite small, though. The reason is that none of the two communities is prepared to give up Brussels, which because of its multilingual status cannot be cut up into a Flemish and Walloon part.

The Belgian's lack of pride also leads to the lack of a clear image for the country abroad. Other comparable small countries have easily recognizable images: for example, Switzerland is immediately associated with banking, clocks and mountains, Holland with tulips, cheese and wind-mills. For Belgium, on the other hand, no clear associations spring to mind. This is due partly to the lack of image-building and marketing, partly to the fact that the Belgian culture and landscape is extremely varied, and cannot be summarized in a few symbols.

To my opinion, it is not due to the lack of a national identity, though. That national character is rather subtle, and not easy to formulate in a few words. Though Flemish and Walloon cultures differ in several respects (as could be expected, the Flemish are closer to the more disciplined, Northern European, Germanic culture, and the Walloon to the more life-enjoying, Mediterranean, Latin culture), they have more things in common than most are willing to admit. A clear indication is that, although on the basis of language Wallonia seems to fit in with the neighbouring France and Flanders with the neighbouring Holland, very few in either Flanders or Wallonia have ever dared to suggest that their region should leave Belgium and join the more powerful neighbour state. Not even the German-speaking part, which was annexed after the first world war, is willing to rejoin the wealthy unified Germany.

What all Belgians have in common is a love for the "good life", which they find in their excellent food and drink, comfortable housing, reliable medical and social services, highly developed traffic and communications infrastructure. Belgians are not the type wanting to impress other people with their achievements, or to convince others of their righteousness. They tend to be rather reserved or introverted in their first contacts with other people, but are sincerely warm and friendly once you get to know them better. They are happy when they can enjoy a safe and comfortable life, together with their family and friends, and they put a high value on privacy. They have a clear aversion towards moralizing, towards telling other people how they should or should not behave (an attitude for which they critize their neighbours in Holland), and they take "live and and let live" as the basis for their philosophy. R. Hill, in a book on different European characters, describes the Belgians as "open-minded opportunists", noting their pragmatical attitude.

An anecdote illustrating this attitude was reported by a British officer commanding Belgian troops during the first world war. Whereas soldiers normally are supposed to follow orders without questioning, the Belgians would first ask why they were supposed to do something particular. Only after they got an acceptable reason they would execute the order. This stands in contrast to the often absurd manoeuvres undertaken by British, French and German troops, where thousands of lives were sacrificed in order to gain a few meters of terrain. This attitude may explain why the losses in human lives were much smaller among the Belgians than among other nations, even though a large part of the battles took place on Belgian territory ("Flanders' fields").

Another character trait noted by Hill is a "democratic" attitude, in the sense that Belgians make very little distinction between classes or social strata. It is not because you are a professor, a noble man or a rich banker that you will be treated with special respect or privileges. Everybody has the right to be taken serious, and to get a good education and a decent way of living. On the economic plane, this egalitarian philosophy is illustrated by the fact that Belgium has the lowest percentage of poor people in the world.


Quality of life
The skepticism towards government, the lack of pride about one's own achievements, and the general "anarchistic" way of doing things may create the false impression that life in Belgium is not well-organized. Though Belgians dislike discipline imposed upon them by superiors, bureaucracy, ideology or religion, they compensate by hard work and self-discipline. In spite of regular changes of government, Belgians trains do run on time, and the administrative services do help people generally in a fast and effective way.
Belgian workers are the most productive in the world. According to German statistics (1992), industrial productivity (amount of goods produced per worker) in Belgium is some 20 % higher than in the next most productive country, the neighbouring Holland, and well above that of the industrial giants Japan, Germany and USA. This high productivity is not limited to industrial work. Although in overall GNP per capita, Belgium only ranks within the 10 or so richest countries, in GNP produced per hour worked, it is first. This productivity is due to a generally high level of education resulting in highly skilled labor, extended automatization, shift work that minimizes idle time, and low absenteeism. Although employees have relatively much vacation and free time, and can easily take time off for illness without risking to lose their jobs, few working days are actually lost. This is also due to the excellent system of low cost medicine and the tradition of solving industrial conflicts by negotiations. Somewhat surprisingly, given the well publicized strikes, industrial unrest over the last 15 years in Belgium is one of the lowest in the European Union.

Thanks to the open market, the good distribution channels and the strong consumer requirements, one can find the most diverse and high quality goods in the shops at relatively low prices. The high production and consumption standards have led to the publicity slogan "This is Belgian" being used as a quality label (and not, as one might imagine, as an appeal to nationalistic feelings, such as "Buy American"). The association of "Belgian" with "high quality" is slowly diffusing to neighbouring countries, especially in the domains of food, drink and housing. More unexpectedly, Belgians (such as the "Antwerp Six" group) have made inroads in top ten fashion design, a domain which was almost exclusively under the control of French, Italian and Japanese designers.

Although a few spectacular murders and robberies have grabbed the public attention and crime rates have been increasing, the crime rate in Belgium is still quite low. The British ministery of Foreign Affairs calculated that Brussels is the safest capital in the world with respect to the risk for murder. With a ratio of 0.4% per 100,000 inhabitants (4 murders per million) Brussels is situated in front of Rome (1.7) and London (2.1), and far before Moscow (18.1) and Washington (69.3). A 1990 UN crime survey found that Belgian cities scored among the best for risks of assault and frightening threats.

All this, together with the generally peaceful atmosphere, and the effort put into developing the basic things in life (Belgium is one of the few countries where there is no housing problem, because almost every Belgian family tends to build its own home) would put Belgium very high on a "quality of life" ordering of countries. In international polls, Belgians always tend to come out among those most satisfied with their life and least inclined to emigrate to another country. This is in sharp contrast, but not in contradiction, with the very critical attitude which Belgians exhibit towards their country and government. (one can only conclude that they would be even more critical when living in another country).

The things that are especially noticed by foreign visitors are the excellent food, and the very dense concentration of restaurants and pubs, everywhere in the country. Not just the quantity but the quality of restaurants is exceptional: Belgium is the country with the highest number of Michelin stars (the most acclaimed gastronomical distinction for a restaurant) per head of the population. Given this overwhelming competition, it is not surprising that Belgium is the only country in the world where the fast-food giant McDonald's has been consistently losing money. Belgian cuisine, which is related to the French one, but with some very distinctive touches, offers many dishes worth trying. A well-known speciality are the Belgian chocolates which are sold all over the world. And then there is the national dish, "French" Fries ("frites"), which, according to legend, were invented in Belgium, not France, and which are supposed to be better here than in any other place in world.

Especially the beer (see Belgium: beer paradise) is a national speciality: there are hundreds of different types with distinctive tastes, which are all served in their own specially made glasses. Beer, for Belgians, is about as important as wine is for the French. It is a pity that the international marketing is not better developed, because everybody drinks Dutch, Danish or German beers, whereas the Belgian ones (which are much richer in variety and taste) are known only by the real beer lovers. Recently, though, Belgian speciality beers are getting more and more popular, not only in the neighbouring France, Holland and UK, but even in the USA.

Problems, Problems...
In order to relativize this quite rosy picture of Belgium, let me also mention the most serious problems that are to be solved. The budget deficit has, after many economies, finally gotten under control. However, it has led to a government debt, which, as a percentage of GNP, is the highest one in the industrialized world (OECD countries). The Belgian state as a whole has no external debt, though (in contrast to for example the U.S.A). This can be explained by the fact that Belgium has one of the highest savings percentages in the world. The debts of the government are more than compensated for by the credits accumulated by Belgian companies and households, which are eager to invest their money in government bonds, as they offer a high and reliable interest. The balance of payments for Belgium has been consistently positive over the last decades. This may in part explain the ease with which the government has been relying on borrowed money.

Another problem that is often mentioned is the high percentage of unemployment. However, if unemployment is calculated according to international norms (where people are polled whether they are actually looking for a job, instead of counting how many people are entitled to benefits), the unemployment rate is almost half of the official one, and comparable to the presently low US rate. In particular Flanders experiences at present a sharp decrease in unemployment. Given the demographic evolution, it seems likely that there will soon be a problem of lack of people to fill the job openings, rather than one of unemployment. The well-publicised factory closings (such as the closing of the Renault car factory in Vilvoorde, which reached the international headlines) do not contradict this trend. They are merely the side effect of the on-going transition to an information society, where low-skilled industrial jobs are gradually replaced by high-skilled jobs in the service sector. Two years after the Renault closing, which came as a shock to many people, practically all former employees had found a new job.

Another recurrent problem is the integration of the many Islamic immigrants (mostly Morrocans and Turks). It is often difficult for these people, many of whom are lowly skilled and have poor knowledge of the language and culture, to find good jobs. This has led to a few riots in quarters with predominantly immigrant populations, and to problems of drug use and petty crime among unemployed young men. This, more frighteningly, has reinforced the popularity of extreme right parties with an anti-immigrant agenda (although it seems that their share of the vote has presently peaked). Although economic immigration has basically been halted, Belgium, like other European countries, experiences a problem of growing numbers of Third World and Eastern Eureopean people that are either demanding asylum or entering the country illegally. This puts the authorities in a difficult situation, where they have to choose between forcefully repatriating people to go back to a miserable life or risking a rising flow of poor immigrants.

The most talked about problem of the last few years is the urgently needed reorganization of the police and justice system. A number of high profile cases with police bungling have made it clear that the traditional systems were not prepared to the fast paced world of the end of the twentieth century. Parliament has recently passed some laws which propose far reaching changes, especially for the police. However, according to insiders, the biggest problems reside not in the police, which had already been quietly modernizing over the last few years, but in the courts and justice system, which still use 19th century tools and methods to tackle 21st century problems. It is to be hoped that the reforms of justice will be profound enough to eradicate this problem.

The Belgian way of problem-solving
In cybernetical terms, the Belgian system might be described as highly self-organizing. The political system is based on discussion and compromise between different groups of interest, without a clear central control (the king has no real power, and the prime minister is mainly the person who is best suited for implementing the agreements). For example, socio-economical problems are mostly avoided by preparing "collective labor agreements", where trade unions and employers reach a compromise on wage increases in the coming period. Only when unions and employers cannot reach consensus, the governement will intervene by proposing a compromise.
A special expression, "a Belgian compromise", has been invented to design the typical solutions derived in this way: complex issues are settled by conceding something to every party concerned, through an agreement that is usually so complicated that nobody completely understands all its implications. In spite of the apparent inefficiency of these settlements, the compromises do work in practice, because they stop the existing conflicts, and thus allow life to go on without fights or obstructions. The practical ambiguities and confusions that arise out of the compromise are usually solved on the spot by the Belgians' talent for improvisation.

The experience gained in negotiating these intricate multiparty, multilingual and multicultural problems has led to an unlikely new export product: Belgian political expertise. At a certain moment, the presidents of the four largest political groups in the European Parliament, socialists, christian democrats, liberals and rainbow, were all Belgian, as was the president of the European federation of trade unions. The Belgian prime minister, Jean-Luc Dehaene, demonstrated the expertise he gathered in this kind of problem-solving when he succeeded in untying the Gordian knot of assigning some dozen different European institutions to the different member states of the European Union (a problem which had eluded the previous British and Danish presidencies of the European Community) by on the spot creating a new institution, so that every country could carry something home. This made him the front-runner in the race for becoming the new president of the European Commission (the "head of government" on the European level). The only reason he did not get the post was because of a veto by the British Conservatives, who apparently were afraid that he might be too successful in the on-going drive to European integration.

Another example of this peculiar way of problem-solving, which reached the international newspapers, was the royal question. All laws accepted by Belgian parliament must be signed by the king before they can be applied. Normally this is an automatic procedure, but in the case of the law legalizing abortion, the former king Baudoin, on religious grounds, concluded that his conscience did not allow him to approve the law. The government discovered a small paragraph in the constitution stating that approval of the king is not needed in situations where the king is incapable to govern, a provision for exceptional circumstances such as mental illness of the ruler. The compromise reached between government and king, was that the king was declared incapable to rule for just one day, enough to pass the law without his signature!

Though people who highly respect formal rules might be shocked by such a pragmatic treatment of a sensitive issue, the problem was solved in a for everybody acceptable way: the king's conscience was kept intact, and the democratic decision was implemented with a minimum of delay. A change of the constitution is planned in order to avoid similar problems in the future.

Art: between the real and the surreal
Like the other domains of culture and society, Belgian art moves between the two poles of practical materialism and open-minded rebelliousness. The corresponding artistic styles that are most typically Belgian are realism or naturalism, which tries to depict life as it is in all its vivid, down-to-earth details, and surrealism or symbolism, which explores other worlds, where the normal rules do not apply. What both poles have in common is their rejection of formalism or ideology, and a desire to question accepted wisdom, often in a humorous way. Belgians instinctively distrust any system that tells them how they should think, behave or produce art. They are also not fond of sentimentality or Romantic idealization, where the concrete details that make life so complex are ignored in order to promote heroism or gracefulness. The lack of sympathy for abstract systems may explain why Belgians have made relatively little contributions to music, the most formal of all arts, and have instead focused on the visual arts and literature, which allow you to directly depict (sur)reality.
These characteristics already come to the fore in the 15th century, when the "Flemish primitives" revolutionized painting. In contrast to the Italian school, whose paintings are characterized by an idealized elegance, Flemish masters such as Van Eyck surprise by their extremely elaborate, life-like pictures, such as the Arnolfini wedding,where every detail is where it should be, including the curls of hair of the little dog and the reflection of the painter in the mirror that hangs behind the couple being portrayed. Still, the medieval landscapes in the background and the spiritual, symbolic intent of many paintings give them a dreamy, almost mythical character.

This first generation sets the tone for the artists that follow. Some towering figures of the following generation are Bruegel, whose well-known images of dancing and eating farmers illustrate the Belgian's down-to-earth enjoyment of life, and Bosch, whose apocalyptic but humorous pictures exemplify surrealism and its questioning of everything, including the laws of nature themselves. The fact that these two poles of the down-to-earth and the surreal are not that far apart is shown by some paintings of Bruegel that were obviously inspired by Bosch's nightmarish visions. The 17th century is dominated by Rubens, who added sensuality to the range of pleasures of the flesh that had been depicted in painting.

The Romantic 19th century in Belgium is dominated by symbolism or idealism, genres that try to transcend everyday reality. Some typical exponents are Fernand Knopff, whose work is exemplified by a painting of an elegant, languorous panther with the head of a woman, and Félicien Rops, with his satanic-erotic illustrations. On the opposite side of this more decadent, surreal strand are naturalists, such as Constantin Meunier, who criticize society by depicting the grim reality of working class life. The real and the surreal meet in the work of James Ensor, with his sensual depictions of every-day objects and sinister caricatures of bourgeois society, the "School of Latem", with their ethereal landscapes, and Permeke, with his powerful, expressionist pictures of farmers and laborers.

Surrealism proper starts in the 1920's. Its most famous Belgian exponents are René Magritte, who is perhaps the most reproduced artist of the 20th century, and Paul Delvaux. Magritte's creative genius is revealed by his impossible, but haunting combinations of ordinary, very realistically depicted phenomena, such as a locomotive steaming out of a chimney piece, or a castle built on top of a rock that hovers above a stormy sea. Delvaux's sense of beauty is somewhat more traditional, with his dream-like landscapes of Greek temples and old-fashioned train stations, populated by skeletons, statuesque women, investigative scientists, and the little man-in-the-street with his bowlar hat that is also a favorite character of Magritte.

Literature: the independent investigator
Representing and questioning everyday reality is also the underlying theme in much of Belgian literature. We already find it in the Middle Ages with the fable of the sly fox "Reynard", who poked fun at the establishment represented by self-important but not so smart figures like Nobel, the lion-king, Bruyn the bear and Isengrim the wolf. In the 19th century, this theme is revived in a more realistic setting by Charles De Coster, with his both dramatic and comic novel about Thyl Uylenspiegel, who rebelled against the Spanish oppressors by mocking them, helped by his friend Lamme Goedzak, a Bruegel-like character whose highest pleasures consist in eating and sleeping.
The symbolist movement finds its expression in poets such as Emile Verhaeren and the Nobel laureate Maurice Maeterlinck. Naturalism and its criticism of society by the depiction of the sometimes dramatic, sometimes endearing, life of ordinary folk is represented by Flemish authors such as Streuvels, Timmermans, Elsschot and later Boon and Claus. Surrealism is a major inspiration for the poet Henry Michaux, and for the novelists Johan Daisne and Hubert Lampo, who exemplify the typically Belgian school of "magical realism". Like the paintings of Delvaux and Magritte, their novels start with the description of ordinary folks in ordinary situations, which, however, are gradually invaded by mystery, by weird coincidences and impossible happenings that seem to point to some parallel world or reality beyond ordinary appearances.

What distinguishes these Belgian literary styles from their counterparts in other countries, such as Zola's naturalism, or the "magical realism" of Kafka and the Latin-American authors, such as Marquez, is their absence of fatalism. Although reality may be very hard to live with, and surreality impossible to comprehend, the individuals in Belgian novels can make a difference. They are not mere toys of fate, or cogs in a machine they cannot control. Although they will never be able to grasp everything, they do manage to reach better understanding through exploration and observation.

Similar themes run through the more popular literature, and even through comic strips, the merging of literary and visual art at which Belgians excel. Georges Simenon, with his famous character, inspector Maigret, represents the naturalistic pole. Both his detective and his more literary novels enthrall by their accurate, though sympathetic observation of people and captivating rendering of the atmosphere, rather than by a sophisticated plot. On the fantastic end of the scale, authors like Thomas Owen and especially Jean Ray (aka John Flanders) turn their detective stories into gothic novels, where the investigation of a mystery uncovers untold horrors.

The detective, researcher or reporter who investigates a mysterious situation is perhaps the prototypical hero in Belgian story-telling. That hero has neither superhuman powers nor passionate Romantic ideals. It is rather an ordinary person, perhaps even a child (like in most comic strips), who is just a little smarter and more curious than the others, and therefore manages to find out things that remain hidden for those that don't look beyond appearances. In comic strips, some of the more well-known heroes of this kind are the world famous Tintin, Blake and Mortimer, Suske and Wiske, and Spirou. It is perhaps also not a coincidence that the British writer Agatha Christie's most famous character, the detective Hercule Poirot, is supposed to be Belgian.

That's a lot for a very little country, isn't it? p-)

So, North = rich and Flamish (harbors-sea)
South = poor and Walloon (old industry death, old workers sicks = expensive for the society)

Rich + poor = split

BTW i'm a Celtic warrior and i invite all friends to visit my country and drink a lot of the best beer in the world and ate the best chocolate (of the same world)

http://www.highland-mercenaries.com/Profiles/Mitc-Kneel-Full-Dress.jpg

Those against us will have their balls removed by my sword ...

I hope this wil l give you some answers ;)

Raistlin
11-06-2004, 01:01 PM
I never was and still not in politics so I'll just provide an article written by many Israelis and let other Isralie members on the boards to make personal comments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Israel

What I like about Israel as in contrast to US is the popular vote method (IMHO the whole Electoral College system is stupid and there's a reason why the rest of the world doesn't use it). In addition Israel has more than 2 major parties so you have a better choice when voting. I also like the clear separation between ruling, law-making, and law-enforcing circuits. I also like the power given to High Court.

What I DO NOT like is the lack of separation between the government and the religion. For example, there are no civil marriages in Israel. I also do not like the conscription system even though I understand that it might be necessary.

walford
11-06-2004, 04:24 PM
For a inside glimpse into what's going on in Canadians' minds about their own country, there is a spirited and informative discussion at:
Americans Flock to Canada's Immigration Web Site (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29324&highlight=), and also Screw Quebec (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29297&highlight=). Absolutely fantastic. I wish we could see what people in your country is arguing about. I'm sick of American politics.

bloddyaxe
11-06-2004, 07:29 PM
"What misconceptions do you think outsiders have about your country?"
That we live in snowhouses. We do not.


Who are the players?
The biggest party is the Independence party, the second biggest is one of our Communist parties, however the Independence party along with the progressive party are in control.
What are the different parties and how do they compare?
The Independence party is the only capitalistic and pro independence party and the only one willing to defend the country. The progressive party is bent on creating a farmers paradise and joining the EU. The Liberal party is bent on creating a fishermans paradise. The Left Green communist party is bent on creating a communist utiopia. The Alliance something communist party is bent on joining the EU and creating a socio-communistical utiopia.



What sort of future would you like for your country?
Lower taxes, increased personal freedoom. Improved Police and Coast guard. A standing army would also be nice.



How would that compare to the likely future?
Uncertain.



What are your country's strengths & weaknesses?
We are technoligically advanced and extremely well off financially. We are few and our territory doesn't include great resources except fish and clean water, along with some geothermal fields and waterfalls that can be utilized for energy production.


What are some chronic problems that outsiders simply don't appreciate?
We are so few that importing lots of immigrants could change the social balance fatally.



What sort of relationship(s) does your country have with its neighbors? Any room for improvement in these relationships
The only neighbour that we have difficult negotiations with currently are the Norwegians but since we are so close culturally and all it doesn't create any serious tension. We ocassionally have problems with the EU however but usually they back down when we get angry and threaten them.

Brozozo
11-06-2004, 07:56 PM
All I have to say is that Canada's gov't leaves much to be desired. I'm especially critical of their defence and health care policies.
It's politicians with no military experience or knowledge that have bled the CF nearly dry. How can you make decisions concerning the future of an organization you barely know anything about? This is why soldiers had to die before the Iltis got any attention. There are tons of other examples of mismanagement of the CF by the gov't.
Health care has also become this country's financial black hole. More and more money is being sunk in and the situation keeps growing worse. Ontario has announced tax increases and health care premiums to help the health care system. At the same time services such as optometrist visits and chiropractor services are being scaled back. The entire system needs to be overhauled. Do I really care for universal health care that much? Hell no, I've been in this country since I was 5 and have yet to walk througth the doors of a hospital. I'd trade universal health care for an annual keg of beer from the gov't.