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Kingpin
09-26-2003, 07:06 AM
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T-90S in New Dehli military parade

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T-72 in Thar desert

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T-72M1 - one of the latest modifications of T-72

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Arjun Mk.1 - Indian developed tank

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They said that this is STANDARD camouflage :)

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The 214mm Pinaka MRLS firing its payload of rockets, during a user evaluation by the Indian Army.

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A pair of Tunguska M1s, at the 2001 Republic Day Parade in New Delhi.

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Strela-10M3 SAM, just as it leaves its enclosed launcher.

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Prototype of the Bhim SPG (South African LIW/Denel T6 155mmm/52 turret mounted on the Arjun MBT chassis). Successful user trials were conducted by the Indian Army in the summers of 1998 and 1999, with the Army reportedly favouring the Bhim SPG over other systems evaluated. If selected the system will be assembled in India, with turrets supplied by Denel.

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Soldiers stand guard in Jaran Walan Gali, some 250 km from Jammu, on 23 May 2003 armed with a 30mm AG-17 Plamya automatic grenade launcher. The photograph was taken a few days after the army announced it had destroyed 90 terrorist hideouts and killed over 60 militants in a counter insurgency operation in southern Kashmir.

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A jawan outfitted with an NBC (Nuclear, Biological & Chemical) suit stands next to a FLAME launcher. Developed by Bharat Dynamics Limited, FLAME is a universal launcher - for both infantry and vehicle use - which can fire the 9K113 Konkurs (AT-5 Spandrel), the 9K11 Fagot (AT-4 Spigot) and the Milan-II anti-tank guided missile.

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A Mi-17 [Z3009] air-dropping supplies to army troops in the Siachen Glacier.

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No.20 Squadron was raised with 10 Su-30MKIs with more expected to join the unit soon. Seen here are eight Flankers on the tarmac, the ninth was in the hangar and the tenth was in the air.

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A pair of 'clean' Su-30Ks making a 'run & break' into the circuit at Lohegaon AFS. Notice the additional application of the tail number (SB 011) to the fuselage nose, reminiscent of Russian practice.

burnt by the sun
09-26-2003, 07:53 PM
how about an army of cowboys? that'd be cool and real idians yeah! and an army of ****in frogs with guns on there backs!! **** yeah this is the future of war my friends

Dennis G
09-26-2003, 11:03 PM
Is india on its way to becoming a military super power?

Ratamacue
09-26-2003, 11:05 PM
No.

sunnysandy
09-28-2003, 08:51 AM
Give us a couple of years ;)

Jooglae
09-28-2003, 09:03 AM
India is already one of major armed nations, along with Pakistan. Thanks to those precious nukes that we don't have.

Ravenclaw
09-28-2003, 04:14 PM
Umm......there's no real comparison between India and Pakistan.
India is way way ahead in almost all fields(more like China),scout some of the other South asian-intensive forums to get more info.

But i guess India's capabilities cannot be seen as a threat to us since ther e isnt any inherent culture-clash or anti-american sentiment.
Recent developments only show the US and India getting warmer to each other in a serious long-term way

seventy6er
09-28-2003, 05:36 PM
India is way way ahead in almost all fields(more like China),scout some of the other South asian-intensive forums to get more info.


The Indian Army may outnumber the Pakistani Army, but for example, the Indian Army's MBT-fleet is in bad condition whereas the Pakistani MBT's are said to be in "good shape" (have to look up the source where I got that one from).

seventy6er
09-28-2003, 06:22 PM
Here's the source:

India’s Tank Force Not As Potent As Numbers Indicate (http://www.forecast1.com/press/press49.htm)

Andyman
09-28-2003, 08:28 PM
I must say that looks pretty impressive, especially the Indian made MBT. If they aren't already on there way to becoming a military superpower I'd say they're damn close. They definately have a population to support a large military force. I have a question for any Indian members.

Is service madatory in India?

I read this book "A Fine Balance" by Rohinton Mistry and it talked about India under the leadership of Indira Gandhi and it seemed like a pretty horrible place, with much poverty is this true or has India cleaned up pretty good since then?

The book wasn't a true story but was based rather on the society of that time period and the author is from India so I figured he's gotta know something about the country.

Ravenclaw
09-29-2003, 04:04 AM
Well i'm not an Indian member but i guess i'll answer anyway,

As far as i know,India is a land of stark contrasts,there is still much poverty yet the number of millionares maybe well more than the entire pupulation of Australia(coz with such a large population,even a small percentage means a lot).

Some of the places r backward whereas some of the areas in metro cities are just as good as they are here.
They are westernising with an increasingly fast pace(u know,Mcdonalds,Gucci stuff etc ;) ).

As i understand it its already an educational,pharmaceutical,industrial etc etc powerhouse.

Service is not mandatory in India and its armed forces i think are a volunteer-ONLY force.

Seventy6er,
Gee u made an assumption from one link p-) .........like i said u need in depth research b4 a conclusion,read some literature on the situation or get involved with some forums discussing it.

The only thing that India lacks are good MBT's but it doesnt really need them witht he kind of aerial and artillery superiority it has,it can smother Pakistan's MBT fleet(like the US did with airpower against Iraq).

The biggest disparity however is in the Naval department,informed people will tell you that India's Navy is in the Top 5 of the world with enough firepower to blow the Pakistani Navy 10 times to mars.
Good thing is that it has no expansion plans in pacific :roll:

seventy6er
09-29-2003, 04:54 AM
Seventy6er,
Gee u made an assumption from one link p-) .........like i said u need in depth research b4 a conclusion,read some literature on the situation or get involved with some forums discussing it.

The only thing that India lacks are good MBT's

I was only talking about the MBT-fleet.



the number of millionares maybe well more than the entire pupulation of Australia(coz with such a large population,even a small percentage means a lot)

That would be a percentage of nearly 2 %. I doubt that 2 % of the Indians are millionaires.

Trigger
09-29-2003, 12:48 PM
Nice post Kingpin!
I love the second pic (T72), and those Su30s are sweet!

Ravenclaw
09-29-2003, 04:28 PM
Those arent just ordinary Su30's.
They are Su30MKI.
The only thing Russian about them is the airframe(with canards btw),engines,radar and some weaponry.

Rest all like EW,ECM,decoys,FLIR,Avionics,Cockpit systems(HUD etc) are either Indian,French or Israeli.

It more like a western machine in a modified Su30MKI skin

786mine
05-11-2004, 04:52 AM
Althought Indian Army outnumbers Pakistani Army by almost 3 to 1. The Pakistani Army has better and newer equipment as it went for western [primarly American] whereas Indian went for Russian made equipment.

Regarding MBT, Pakistna's Al-Khalid is indeginously produced and so good that Middle-Eastern countries are buying it.

Indian Air Force has more planes and fighter jets, but besides the Su-30 and MiGs the rest of the fleet is old and out dated. Pakistan has less air crafts but what is lacks in quantity it makes up with quality. F-16 and J-7 make the Pakistani Air Force's backbone.

Brzeczyszczykiewicz
05-11-2004, 05:59 AM
Regarding MBT, Pakistna's Al-Khalid is indeginously produced and so good that Middle-Eastern countries are buying it.

And India produces T-90S...
BTW. what countries? Never heard...


Indian Air Force has more planes and fighter jets, but besides the Su-30 and MiGs the rest of the fleet is old and out dated. Pakistan has less air crafts but what is lacks in quantity it makes up with quality. F-16 and J-7 make the Pakistani Air Force's backbone.

Man, you're comparing few pakistani squadrons of F-16As to 'outdated' fleet of Su-30MKIs, MiG-29s, Mirage-2000s and Jaguars?

And about J-7... this 'backbone' is actually an aircraft with capabilities similar to MiG-21bis...

IAF's techinical and numberous supremacy is huge.

J-10
05-11-2004, 07:24 AM
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30y.jpg


No.20 Squadron was raised with 10 Su-30MKIs with more expected to join the unit soon. Seen here are eight Flankers on the tarmac, the ninth was in the hangar and the tenth was in the air.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30n.jpg


A pair of 'clean' Su-30Ks making a 'run & break' into the circuit at Lohegaon AFS. Notice the additional application of the tail number (SB 011) to the fuselage nose, reminiscent of Russian practice.

Nice pic's :D

J-10
05-11-2004, 10:49 PM
Here is a good link about The Indian Air Force: :D

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Special/AeroIndia2003/Static.html

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LCA

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Su-30MKI

RAJPUT22
03-22-2007, 02:13 AM
so what u are trying to say is that the al-khalid is better than the t-90 goo joke.Does anyoe here remember the east pakistan war when PAKIS had the m-48 patton tanks which were assumed to be better to what indians had even then they abandon,lost a large number in combat give them even the F-22,abrahams tank and they will find a way to fail miserably:)

teutateswolf-n
03-22-2007, 05:33 AM
Why "no"?

What are your conditions to be considered as a military power?

Of course, the Indian military still have many weaknesses, but being a military power is not meaning being perfect.
For example, the USA likes to say about itself that it's the first military power in the world, but when we see the result in Iraq, it's far to be a perfect military machine p-)

I'm not pro- or anti-India, but I think that India is already a military power. India just entered in the world top 10 of military expenditures, even if it's still maybe only one third of China's military expenditures (but there is also the PPP to consider, to be compared with the other powers of the top 10 and to adjust it). There armed forces are one of the 5 in the world to have more than 1 million of regulars, at the third place very close to the US and Russian manpower. But, with their reserves and their para-military, they get very close to the entire Chinese military manpower. Of course, their 1.3-1.4 million of regulars is very small compared to the entire Indian population (with 11,5 millions of male citizens reaching military service age annually), and with its ratio wealth/population India will never be able to achieve a general mobilization. Even on wartime maybe only some millions would be able to be mobilized, and many of them ligthly equipped and poorly trained. Then, compared to smaller by wealthy countries (like in the West) its capacity of mobilization is weak (countries like France, Germany, etc,...would also be able to mobilize millions of citizens in their armed forces on wartime). However, the concrete manpower of the Indian regulars is impressive on peacetime, and one of the most important in the world.
India is the only Asian power to have aircraft carriers (but since the end of the 90's Thailand has a small carrier, and maybe that China will soon have 1 carrier). India has nuke weapons, including ICBM in a near future. India has the fourth largest MBT fleet in the world (including maybe 900 T-90 in 2010), and the fourth largest air fighters fleet in the world (including Su-30). The have many elite and specialized troops. They are able to project their forces on their periphery. Etc, etc,...
It's also true that they are in average less professional than in the West, and that they are largelly reliant to foreign powers (mainly Russia, but also France, UK, the USA, Israel, ...) for many sensitive military technologies, but still in average India can already be considered as a military power.



No.

Kippari
03-22-2007, 08:14 AM
Definately a regional military power, but so far she doesn't have force projection to become a superpower. That would require carrier fleets and capability to fight overseas. It has definately the best airforce in the region. Su-30MKI is one of the best jet fighters in the world. How soon would they start to produce PAK-FA, when the design is complete?

rajkhalsa
03-23-2007, 01:16 AM
so what u are trying to say is that the al-khalid is better than the t-90 goo joke.Does anyoe here remember the east pakistan war when PAKIS had the m-48 patton tanks which were assumed to be better to what indians had even then they abandon,lost a large number in combat give them even the F-22,abrahams tank and they will find a way to fail miserably:)
Why are you topping so many old threads?